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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform check it out,
i wonder why we all only used amds. what suckers we were, and all that.
trinque:
I can't say for sure until
I instrument the thing with slime and wait for it to happen
trinque: asciilifeform: shape of it as
I vaguely recall is that the bot-stuck-away state looks like bot-connected from PoV of bot
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes 's display not included
i dunno why ; phf's not included for the stated reason, obscure cl machine ; lobbes 's not included because in order to be able to patch it, he had to fix various things first, you were here for the "techniocal debt" discussion last year.
diana_coman: hopefully
I won't mess it up again the same way at least
diana_coman: BingoBoingo,
I'm in ; it was hiccup on my side ; thank you
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: Let me know when you make it in. Just now tested the credentials
I sent and there was no perceptible wait.
BingoBoingo: hanbot asciilifeform
I can always come back
hanbot: asciilifeform, BingoBoingo: well, waiting for trinque --
i want to give him an opportunity in case this is interesting.
diana_coman:
I think
I'll take a break and leave it until
I have the smg test box back so at least
I don't mess about with all sorts of versions of everything or
I'll go nuts
diana_coman: once
I have the test machine in working order again
I'll see what's going on there; in the happiest case it was just linking with the wrong thing and so it'll be easily solvable
diana_coman: you know, that was what
I was trying to ensure on the test server (that it's linking with a sjljistic lib) when the simple removal of a symlink blew up in my face
a111: Logged on 2019-03-06 16:55 diana_coman: in other unwanted discoveries: on trying to compile the whole server on the sjlj-gnat
I got a bunch of undefined symbol for unwind_sjlj_raiseexception ; anyone knows about this?
diana_coman: once
I get to the bottom of it,
I certainly will; my first thought was exactly that - ugh, meanwhile it's not "supported" anymore or wtf - but so far
I have no real clue,
I'll need to dig
diana_coman: in other unwanted discoveries: on trying to compile the whole server on the sjlj-gnat
I got a bunch of undefined symbol for unwind_sjlj_raiseexception ; anyone knows about this?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: spyked that works. fwiw
i'd keep the look of the thing, manpage-like
diana_coman: ftr
I have otherwise down even what the symlink was pointed at; it's not that the issue per se
diana_coman: me neither but it's a ...test machine; so it gets all tested, what can
I say
diana_coman: no, it's not the symlink that caused the breakage; it's the botched removal
i.e. it did more than remove the symlink
diana_coman: uhm, asciilifeform BingoBoingo
I can't speak in pizarro?
a111: Logged on 2019-02-07 16:49 asciilifeform: in other cuntooisms : if anyone is short a x64 box to test-fire cuntoo with, asciilifeform has a surplus disposable box, 'lenovo s10-3' , with that same chipset as in x60 etc period (
https://archive.is/Dny84 ) , if anyone in l1 wants, it's yours for the cost of postage ( has a mechanical hdd in it,
i fughet of what size )
mod6: Eitherway,
I'll read logs and catch up if you proceed without me, of course.
trinque:
I'd like to get it done saturday afternoon if that works.
mod6:
I'll do what
I can this weekend, time-permitting.
trinque: lets all plan on smashing through this path bug in the vpatch this weekend.
I'll be available for it.
trinque: in related news,
I have trashed my cuntoo build drive with repeated builds!
mircea_popescu:
i dunno anything else you could try instead of a reboot anyway.
hanbot: mircea_popescu
i haven't, based on noting various unknown webderps reporting it hung/killed their session
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
i didn't dig into it, but noticed the little tab looking at them. now that
i think about it,
i seem to recall this was actually discussed in log.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
i have a bunch here, which have a tab! you switch it to permit writing or not!
hanbot: nop.
i'm running screen but screen -ls shows 1 socket.
hanbot: continuing my mounting woes,
i can't unmount sdb3 partition on target drive from initial cuntoo bootstrap.sh (target is busy); offending process from 'lsof | grep sdb3' looks like /proc/4693/exe ("txt, unknown"), no response from kill -9, no idea how it zombied out or why, what am
i gonna do?
hanbot: so check this out: on new attempt to run cuntoo bootstrap.sh,
i get this error: "umount: invalid option -- 'R'". whereas man umount shows no uppercase R option (lowercase r makes sense, remount read-only). and moreover, first bootstrap.sh run moved past this no prob, not like the script *changed*, wth?
mircea_popescu: hey,
i recall a time in the 90s irc was for dating. fulla exactly the kinda gal you'd like to meet, bash & fuck on 1st "date".
mircea_popescu: yes, of course.
i'm not proposing you publish the damn thing in any particular scheme, or that your math comes out a particular way
mircea_popescu: this is yet another red herring. it is evidently true one needs arbitrary long chunks for arbitrary long tasks, say "to prove m-r
i need a weekend alone". but "ffa" IS NOT this. ffa is eminently aditive.
mircea_popescu: and as to b), you never to my fucking knowledge said the "hey honey, ima go see if
i can find something to shoot at in the forest" part. it's never "hey,
i plan to spend so much dough to realise this much unbooked profit on the basis of this pricetag and through this process"
mircea_popescu: as to a) : 1. you see an item for sale, for price X. 2. you don't even bother to calculate the expected-average-X,
i suspect, but merely "intuit" it, without even a full second's thought. 3. you calculate X-imagined-avg-X thus obtaining a delta, which then motivates you to purchase, and in the process ALSO commits you.
mircea_popescu: then you can say "hey folks, we're done with the ffa that
i know how to do, item is shelved for now, will pick it up if
i wise up"
mircea_popescu: by leaving it for the end, where all the "
i dunno how to do this yet" go.
mircea_popescu: this is your problem here, see. like any mental problem, it has its articulations. to you
i have no doubt this nonsense makes sense, "
i can't promise one a week,
i got a job".
mircea_popescu: or what is it, "lalala
i can't hear it, dun count, not my problem" ?
mircea_popescu: again... did that make some sort of sense as an answer in your head, that was lost on its way to my head ? because
i don't see it
mircea_popescu: what you do is what every other similar idiot did since the invention of empire : keep balooning your debts, "yes
i'm late with instalment 1 but instalment 2 will be 3x as big! [and also, of course, late]"
mircea_popescu: looky here : the man who tells his wife "ima go see if
i can find something to shoot at in the forest, we're fucking starving here" and the man who just disappears into the forest one day are readily distinguishable.
mircea_popescu: but this entire "
i work job!!!" thing's also a red herring. looky how your life flows : 1. your company needs some cash on a regular, predictable, and known in advance basis. 2. for convenience's sake
i undertake a quarters' worth or so of this. 3. you turn around and buy, exactly like the people of walmart, a piece of hardware. on fucking impulse, there was ~no need for it~ and further, ~no time to use it~. but you wanted th
mircea_popescu: basically,
i think
i can authoritatively say, on the basis of having been trying to manage your efforts in the past however many years nsa existed, your approach to work is as follows : 1. there's an indistinct and unspecified ball of things you deduced you want on the basis of them being more or less connected to a core of goodness which, not necessarily very examinedly, seems to yield them as first degree relations. 2. you
mircea_popescu: did that make some sort of sense as an answer in your head, that was lost on its way to my head ? because
i don't see it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so what am
i putting in this month's report, " alf was gonna do ffa but went away to play with xrays instead" ?
mircea_popescu: "All the info
I see is that this is very old tech and programming. The Symbolics company actually is no longer around." dumb cunt's doing "support" by looking shit up in google.
BingoBoingo: "This does look to be nearly 20 year old tech. It was used as a supplement for the process to work on
I/O devices. It’s actually not needed at all with your system."
mircea_popescu: and so in this manner.
i'd fully expect they'd try to bring a challenge, "oh, muh preshious licenses"
mircea_popescu: "Bolton asked about tweets calling Maduro a dictator who violates human rights: CNN: Do you not see US support for other dictators around the world undermines the credibility of your argument. Bolton: No,
I dont think it does.
I think its separate."
mircea_popescu: if
i ran it, they'd be immediatelly struck out, "you've lied before, criminal conspiracy, may not present evidence". if
i was cross-examining,
i'd bury them under their own history, "your honor, my client has no history of lying in court -- that schmuck over there represents an organisation specifically predicated on exactly that".
mircea_popescu: it seems strategically sound, "oh,
i betcha they couldn't fuck gcc/glibc without gnat -- well, what if it can be denied!!!"
mircea_popescu: this entire thing we're doing here is more of a hit on the femstate in computing than the original drepperisms systemv was a hit on the republic. we're turning the tables,
i'd expect some reaction.
mircea_popescu: incidentally,
i wonder what battle will the usg.gnu tards pick to fight us over. confiscation of gnat ? not yet ?
diana_coman: quite;
I suspect it would cleanup the set of scripts too as atm it's a bit hairy to follow everything (or at least so it seemed to me coming at it relatively from the outside)