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BingoBoingo: !~later tell mircea_popescu http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/7iLaV/?raw=true
asciilifeform: ( say, 1024byte (n,e) ; then 512byte signature , of a message, e.g., 'please call me pile_of_cement' )
asciilifeform: moar than enough for 4096b (512byte) modulus, same size exponent, and massive chunk of errorcode.
asciilifeform: or hm, the iso std says otherwise, it's 1 .. 4296 alphanumerics, but only max 2953 8bit bytes per iso-compliant qr.
asciilifeform: right off the lcd.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: the two-diode crackpottery is definitely a favorite of mine
ben_vulpes digs briefly through logs, finds only old sads
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: I thought that was 2013-2014's logs. Just link some classics.
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: !~later tell shinohai http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/8fdt3/?raw=true
ben_vulpes: resisting the temptation to shit up the logs with clojure hate over here
ben_vulpes: compiler for the former is at least useful, goes beyond 'meh adequate'
ben_vulpes: i'd rather write java than clojure
asciilifeform: lol i thought ben_vulpes wrote clojure proggies for a living
ben_vulpes: the thing predates my membership in thumbsdownforclojureclub
asciilifeform: but from ashes, we get magical bird, which then... or was that in another tale.
mircea_popescu: his greatest pleasure is to burn down some thing in this way.
asciilifeform: ( tldr : 13125 bytes on 2sided business card , after luby )
a111: Logged on 2017-06-01 18:03 asciilifeform: if you make a ~two~-diode reader, you can make it ignore 'unstraight' (from its pov) bars. and this opens you up to a method :
a111: Logged on 2016-10-03 19:15 asciilifeform: one of the interesting recurring motifs in dalrymple (british dude who worked for decades as prison doctor) re addicts is that they are not 'could be just anybody'
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-03#1551908 << thread ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( nearly everybody at one time went to dentist, or whatever surgeon, got opiated . how many want to take it up ? )
asciilifeform: but re opium specifically mircea_popescu's idea is almost certainly troo : opium isn't actually fun for ~most people
mircea_popescu: lorica segmentata. it's a thing.
asciilifeform: dunno that this carries universally -- could just easily say 'caesar should have grown his chitinous plate on his chest, so as not to be stabbed'
a111: Logged on 2017-11-08 23:32 mircea_popescu: who invented the redditard ? charles baudelaire described it cca 1863.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-18 17:10 mircea_popescu: stopping smoking doesn't reduce cancer, because the sort of shameful shitsacks that GET cancer will get it, whether from smoking or not. if not from smoking -- they'll find a different stressor.
mircea_popescu: before opium caught on there was a brain there upon which opium will have caught on later on.
asciilifeform: is this after opium caught on , or wat
mircea_popescu: this is what "anonimity" is hoped to provide to the online tard of 2010s.
mircea_popescu: feeding the self the impression of being in the center of the world while at the same time remaining invisible to the world.
mircea_popescu: who invented the redditard ? charles baudelaire described it cca 1863. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: oir le monde, être au centre du monde et rester caché au monde, tels sont quelques-uns des moindres plaisirs de ces esprits indépendants, passionnés, impartiaux, que la langue ne peut que maladroitement définir. L'observateur est un prince qui jouit partout de son incognito."
asciilifeform: http POST takes >1 param, neh
a111: Logged on 2017-09-02 00:04 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform seed is a combo of site-produced TRNG entropy and player-set (with defaults if playher doesn't feel like setting). you can change your portion at any time.
mircea_popescu: i'm aware, but it works better there than here.
asciilifeform: this was in old thread, re provably-fair pokerators , mircea_popescu shared the algo.
asciilifeform: ( when submitting url, can throw in optional value that gets xor'd with the server-generated . )
asciilifeform: can at least avoid applying the obviously deadly , incorrect one.
mircea_popescu: and the problem is also general, nobody can apply our correct solutions.
asciilifeform: ( it can't be a function of the payload, or of the clock )
asciilifeform: but description is general , re 'how to make non-predictable gensym'
asciilifeform: ( if latter is true : make new one )
asciilifeform: ideally the paste magick comes from s := get-string-from-FG followed by see-if-unexpired-paste-with-s-exists
davout: it's not immediately clear to me what this would enable
mircea_popescu: ie "today is the 5th so all paste urls will sum to 05ff" or "this item is long therefore the paste will have more caps than small letters" etc
mircea_popescu: in the sense that third party can predict (by eliminating some as impossible) future urls in whatever manner.
mircea_popescu: ideally the url is not breakable*. (*limits apply)
davout: "how dja generate key paste URL?" "just SHA1 the key" :D
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes how is it implemented btw ? not something directly breakable like "hash the microtime, put through base64 and truncate" is it ?
mircea_popescu: it's a recurrent topic.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-05 13:31 asciilifeform: thing is, there is NO sane (i.e. o(1)) way to index without demanding unique global txid.
mircea_popescu: which was that ?
asciilifeform: iirc we had a similar thread re tx-id.
mircea_popescu: there's a lot of wisdom we ended up baking into teh whole paste thing.
mircea_popescu: this is a right thing here.
mircea_popescu: right. doing something like "fp is http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/ququq/?raw=true" instead of "fp is FC66C0C5D98C42A1D4A98B6B42F9985AFAB953C4" has the advantage that the ad-hoc, by time of request hash does not purport any sort of relation with the contents.
asciilifeform: can reference by anything convenient. so long as not entertaining the seductive but very dangerous notion that the reference ~is~ the item.
mircea_popescu: i suppose necessarily we'll reference them by eg bpaste ids, thereby going right back to the hash.
asciilifeform: i must say even sadder noose, i dun have an rsatron that fits in irc line either...
mircea_popescu: now to the saddest part of this all, whereby N being 512 bytes long, we can't actually fit them in irc lines.
asciilifeform: i dun currently see any crack in this big enough for my crowbar.
mircea_popescu: properly speaking, the two sages are the one sage.
asciilifeform: afaik this is so.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is a compromised key by definition, two people have the pq
a111: Logged on 2017-11-08 22:39 asciilifeform: incidentally , if trinque at any point imports the collision-key, it will overwrite the old, silently
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-08#1734650 << this is very much a koch-gpg problem in the vein of "lobbes warning people not to rely on the "control dials" as provided by koch-gpg, for being unreliable" and probably the most important example thereof. ☝︎
asciilifeform: and it's sufficient index until, i suppose , 5000 yrs pass and there are two old sages, each called himself mircea_popescu and each used modulus N, each left great body of alchemical works, but they had different, see, pub-e's.... lel
asciilifeform: ( it won't affect existing sigs by trooo key , etc )
mircea_popescu: and the fact that BOTH e and comment are arbitrary is not concerning.
asciilifeform: returning to the exponent thing, seems that mircea_popescu is right, nothing particularly interesting can be done by distributing a pub with e' . ( other than 'believe me , his e is 3' and then messages ~to that pub~ are breakable if padding is broken. but that' sit . ) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anyway, n without e is not a complete pubkey, hence the e,N,comment standard. nevertheless, N is a sufficient index of the e,N,comment line that properly constitutes a pubkey.
mircea_popescu has made "varza calita" however you call it, cabbage carmelized with bacon, with CAYENNE paprika. holy shit this is a good idea, had to come to new world to discover.
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in heathendom, 'parody horizon' -- https://archive.is/cQItH >> 'Facebook tests fighting revenge porn by asking users to file nude photos first'
asciilifeform: hats off to trinque , if he manually inspects moduli.
trinque: yep. and so the thing will never do so. anytime someone lets his key expire I've grunted through the item with pgpdump
asciilifeform: ditto if faux-asciilifeform sends trinque a pgpgram, 'my new key is...' -- it will verify.
asciilifeform: incidentally , if trinque at any point imports the collision-key, it will overwrite the old, silently ☟︎
trinque: pretty sure all that was at question was convention for naming keys
trinque: what happens to the interactions with deedbot if a collision occurs?
asciilifeform: it's a fundamental untruth. because somewhere in phase space, waiting to be found, is 1 ( or 2, or 9000 ) collisions.
asciilifeform: mechanically linked 'this fp IS the key' item, however, is more insiduous.
asciilifeform: if tomorrow i sign a message with my key ' asciilifeform fleanode nick was compromised 2ks ago, ignore what the idjit said' -- also stands. names are clothing.
trinque: topic was what to use to reference one, if any
asciilifeform: ( if tomorrow asciilifeform signs a message 'call me pile_of_cement nao plox' everyone will laugh, but his v-sigs will still stand )
a111: Logged on 2017-11-08 22:23 trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-28#1704268 << seems entirely related. asciilifeform says no names because can't derive name from the math.
davout: sounds to me as the same fundamental problem re hashes
asciilifeform: that's what bothers me, that i can't yet prove.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu may well be right incidentally, re the impossibility of somebody lying about the e in a key, doing any damage . but i cannot yet prove.
mircea_popescu: whoever wants to decrypt will either know it or not decrypt.
asciilifeform: what happens if you change e to e', e' != e ?
mircea_popescu: so what's the problem ?
asciilifeform: anyone see any typo ?
asciilifeform: for completeness, let's also note the rsa op :
asciilifeform: output is pub/priv pair; pub is tuble (n,e) , priv is (d, p, q) .
mircea_popescu: trinque well yes but the illiterate approach (which is what this is) rapidly devolves into orcdom.
asciilifeform: 1) we plug in the FG. p, q are primes. n = pq.
asciilifeform: let's take interlude to review ?
mircea_popescu: what's this "genuine e". rsa is based on p,q,N not on e's.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-28 23:10 mircea_popescu: kanzure " Obviously there is no possiblity of meaning outside of a structure of authority, and the authority can not be predicated on the meaning."