asciilifeform: golang --> straight to furnace. ☟︎

asciilifeform: Framedragger: i think you just answered yer own question

asciilifeform: yeah but what part of any of this happened any in past 20y.

asciilifeform: if anything, leverage pertaining to computer maxed out in '90s

asciilifeform: where is this 'leverage increases' ?

asciilifeform: complexity of what ?

asciilifeform: these folks got developmentally frozen.

asciilifeform: somehow.

asciilifeform: yeah but in modern usa 30y is still 'underage'

asciilifeform: usa was really first to mass-produce entirely defective workerbees, and afaik they are limited to software

asciilifeform: aha.

asciilifeform: and haven't since at the latest - the '80s

asciilifeform: the more interesting part is that the actual workerbees doing the gruntwerk do ~not~ think this

asciilifeform: but yeah, when substance s is something that kills plant p but not plant p', and therefore may have been secreted by some past p', odds are 'it's happened before'

asciilifeform: well everybody is eventually nailed by 'so you thought you were...'

asciilifeform: BUT was restructured as a chumpatron some time quite recently (90s?)

asciilifeform: one of the interesting things is that monsanto used to be an actual 'golden age of usa' chemical co. e.g., produced first commercial LED.

asciilifeform: the thing nailing monsanto has a name, 'epigenetics'

asciilifeform has ~'fivenines'-reliable own l0g

asciilifeform: spiffy l0g

asciilifeform: l0gz dead

asciilifeform: e.g., jwz

asciilifeform: this had to wait for the webtardz

asciilifeform: note, microshit never achieved the marvel of a programming language where machine ints cannot be relied upon as arithmetic field

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-19#1468379 << wwwtardism and microshititis are quite distinct afflictions. like drink vs morphinism. ☝︎

asciilifeform: phamous instance of wholly-phony crypto.

asciilifeform: pretty much everybody heard of cryptocat.

asciilifeform: NOT to be confused with the infamously broken chat app 'cryptocat'.

asciilifeform: ^ tru ^

asciilifeform: 'Bad crypto. DO NOT USE. There is IV reuse and the password KDF is one of the worst I've seen: cryptcat -k bunnies -l 12345 cryptcat -k b5ee9e3 127.0.0.1 12345 or cryptcat -k Kue.ins 127.0.0.1 12345 Also no MAC and you can XOR anything to the first 16 bytes of each packet without artifacts.'

asciilifeform: 1star review:

asciilifeform: 'cryptcat - encrypting netcat'

asciilifeform: from soresphorge,

asciilifeform: in other lulz,

asciilifeform: they had chix in su

asciilifeform: can do that back home

asciilifeform: i thought we were doing escape artists.

asciilifeform: but successful escape, afaik, was correlated more than anything with how much pr victory the possession of your arse would be for the nato folk

asciilifeform: and yes, you had folks like gamow, who supposedly first tried to escape in a rowboat, then via eu

asciilifeform: if, say, spy - as described in mega-b0000k 'aquarium' - then yes, 'bigger man' more likely to be let outside of the reservation.

asciilifeform: if we are thinking of an academic, the qualities mircea_popescu would admire would be inversely correlated with promotion

asciilifeform: within constraints of the profession.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not a matter of temperament, matter of rank

asciilifeform: (e.g., diplomat, spy)

asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: not unless he were 'royalty' or in a profession that requires travel to human landz

asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: nope

asciilifeform: ah

asciilifeform: purpose of what?

asciilifeform: gosplan?

asciilifeform: we sold it, bought plane ticketz.

asciilifeform: at least '70s and onward.

asciilifeform: which was bought and sold just like american house.

asciilifeform: except for dacha

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: correct

asciilifeform: how much of his 300k does american rocketeer keep after mortgage payment ?

asciilifeform: you wouldn't be giving back ~100% of yer pay just for having a roof.

asciilifeform: but still

asciilifeform: aha,

asciilifeform: ... the rent racket

asciilifeform: the su story is more interesting tho because guess what they DIDN'T have

asciilifeform: so we have the conversion factor...

asciilifeform: and a lead engineer at boeing may well get 300k.

asciilifeform: these are EXACTLY the wages in usd at uni of md. for same type of people

asciilifeform: dean - 200

asciilifeform: professor, grandfather - 150

asciilifeform: '80s, engineer, my father, 100-120r/mo depending on whether 'invention bonus or not'

asciilifeform: quite literally

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-18#1468255 << add 3 zeros to get ~modern-usd wage. ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-18#1468267 << hilariously, i never saw a vysotsky VINYL until a family phriend gave me his massive set as a gift in usa! most folks heard him on bootleg tape. ☝︎

asciilifeform: prolly 10th rate.

asciilifeform: and these are only the ones publicly ~known~

asciilifeform: or, consider 'bohemian grove'

asciilifeform: according to al schwartz

asciilifeform: (lizard club with ~20 yr waiting list)

asciilifeform: go and try to open the door under 'pirates' attraction in disneyland.

asciilifeform: 'civilized humans' laugh at primitive orcs, who had their party-exclusive wankatrons where everybody could see them.

asciilifeform: phf: plebe walking in was liable to be served shitleftovers

asciilifeform: ('nonlabour income')

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'нетрудовой доход' (tm) (r)

asciilifeform: see also http://btcbase.org/log/2015-04-07#1090204 ☝︎

asciilifeform: point is that it was not ~all~ they had.

asciilifeform: this is not the point

asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: plenty of winnerz had the keys to stockpiles of tp, plutonium, etc.

asciilifeform: (consider folks who came out golden from su collapse, e.g., mircea_popescu, putin, etc. ; is it because they prophetically set up warehouses of toilet paper ??)

asciilifeform: related: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-11#1465891 ☝︎

asciilifeform: until somebody learns where it is.

asciilifeform: or yer gonna dig a mine field around it.

asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: generous gift for the beoble?

asciilifeform: folks who dun drink much ?

asciilifeform no longer surrounded by metre-high pile

asciilifeform cleaned desk for 1st time in 2y

asciilifeform: i even have a notion that something like it once existed in usa but i suspect that everyone who remembered it is dead by now

asciilifeform: aha.

asciilifeform: (or dining hall at wurk)

asciilifeform: dinner was something you generally ate in your (or friend's) kitchen.

asciilifeform: there were cafes, pubs, etc. that were not rightfully 'restaurant'

asciilifeform: aha pete_dushenski has it

asciilifeform: in case engl.speaking n00bz are now perplexed, i oughta explain that 'restaurant' in su world meant something quite more specific than in, e.g., usa

asciilifeform: commoner schmuck who ~regularly~ showed up in restaurant, yes, might get asked questionz.

asciilifeform: because nobody had any fucking idea how to use a cigar.