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asciilifeform: pretty sure i saw a similar 'genius' in timis
mircea_popescu: (and in lulz of all time : laid bricks in, leaving space to pour reinforced concrete pillars later. not the other way around. because... EASIER THIS WAY!!!)
mircea_popescu: cuz these people WILL NOT FIX, anything, ever, until it literally breaks. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: modern toyota mtbf as measured on costa rica highway is ~6 months.
asciilifeform: this is indeed tru, not so long ago i recapped an... opteron
mircea_popescu: can change periodically, can change on the basis of heatmap...
mircea_popescu: nothing forces you to only change it after it explodes like carribean minds.
asciilifeform: hence the q. how often can it be expected to melt down. and how recoverable after meltdown.
asciilifeform: depends how it barfs. on some misfortunate boxes cap failure leads to nukeage of ics.
mircea_popescu: heck, i thought people pre-emptively replaced those anyway
asciilifeform: they did. still remains the issue of electrolytic caps tho
mircea_popescu: these got disk-fixed tho. so conceivably years.
asciilifeform: hey phf what do you suppose is the mtbf of a present-day bolix 'xl' ?
mircea_popescu: the sort that then asks the queen of sparta things.
asciilifeform: ain't that the whole 'female' strategy in compact algo ? 'guaranteed catch of bag of tiny fishes, in return for 0 chance of whale'
mircea_popescu: "it works sorta-better for the above average and so what if i 100% miss out on the high sigma events!!!"
mircea_popescu: the obvious similarity to the above-discussed coy behaviour entirely hush hush in the fem-bois.
mircea_popescu: but whatever, erryone's going to continue in this "i will wait until the world conforms to my webpage and sends email according to my own bureaucratic misrepresentations" elliotism until they fall over.
ben_vulpes: well i don't remember that happening, so i'm pretty sure that it didn't.
ben_vulpes: was that predicated on stopping in at the vintage museum?
a111: Logged on 2017-08-02 22:44 mircea_popescu: meanwhile in other lulz : i just brokered a deal whereby we could in principle get candi to run off vintage iron, as a hosting deal :D
ben_vulpes: haven't made it to seattle in quite some time, no
asciilifeform: hey ben_vulpes you ever made it to that museum ?
asciilifeform: i dun expect to find ns src for the cpu, but could theoretically find pinout or even data re pcb , which is almost as good
a111: Logged on 2017-08-02 22:01 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes any chance you check out this "people's comp museum" next seattle trip ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-02#1692956 << thereabouts. ☝︎
asciilifeform: phf: he has a bunch of tape images, i've none, at some point i'ma comb'em
phf: i suspect the sources in question are just dumps from iso, i.e. the high level stuff. i'm positive that he doesn't have the bits that you actually want (i.e. the bedrock code)
mircea_popescu: but since we've done all the talking about it that could be done that's that, i take it ? nuts.
mircea_popescu: oh, which reminds me, we were going to rent a machinem from some similarily located enthusiast's "museum"
phf: asciilifeform: that's josh dersch, he's a seattle retro computing enthusiast. specifically he works on hardware restoration (including a symbolics) for paul alan's http://www.livingcomputers.org, i've met him once or twice
shinohai: I think I shall too ... depending on size I can likely put on btcinfo server
asciilifeform: shinohai: i'm mirroring whole thing
asciilifeform: console had equiv. of workstation cpu at the time ~just for sound~ etc
asciilifeform: ( orig lm had no concept whatsoever of seekoority, or even multiple users, i'm almost surprised mircea_popescu was not quick to remind of this )
a111: 0 results for "bait and switch technology", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=bait%20and%20switch%20technology
mircea_popescu: !#s bait and switch technology
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and on original facebook it was possible to yoy know, own your dribblings.
asciilifeform: it was possible to actually program the fep tho
mircea_popescu: (but -- very much yes. the reason "glories of the past" are glories of the past is that they were killed before grew teeth.)
mircea_popescu: don't say that, you'll hurt butts.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-05 17:01 phf: asciilifeform: i thought maybe the design was some historic artifact, but no, none of the cads i looked at (including fucking cmu's NS, which is probably first or second cad in existence) had that split.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-23 03:09 asciilifeform: well, starting with the crown jewels , and down :
asciilifeform: see also old threads, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-23#1631477 , http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-05#1578026 ☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform: 'ns' was their in-house cad thing, 100% lisp
asciilifeform: lispm had a board dedicated just to bringing up the lispm proper on boot. had equiv. of sun workstation of the time, in there
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: the classical cd shipped with sources, but not for some of the more interesting items (e.g. 'ns' chip and pcb layout cad; systemolade of various sorts (e.g. fep) etc )
asciilifeform: i'ma see if they match mine some time later when i can be arsed.
asciilifeform: and the other isos.
asciilifeform: http://yahozna.dyndns.org/scratch/genera/layered-products.ISO was also in the box
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: http://yahozna.dyndns.org/scratch/genera/GENERA_8_3.iso seems to be a copy of selfsame cd
mircea_popescu: prolly triefd to archive it
scriba: TypeError: argument of type 'NoneType' is not iterable (file "modules/archive.py", line 59, in archive_a_url)
asciilifeform: the one dks gave out to all junk buyers. it is also on warez ( on 'piratebay' to this day afaik )
ben_vulpes: (assuming they are source code)
asciilifeform: i have nfi if these sources are subset, superset, or same as the ones on the cd
ben_vulpes: sounds interesting, is that a commonly shared thing, the sources?
asciilifeform: but the rest -- yes, variously interesting
asciilifeform: i meant the bolix
asciilifeform: sadly most of it is stuff that was on the cd set
ben_vulpes: more of a tent
ben_vulpes: that is not a table, that is finely spun chineseium
mircea_popescu has credible oak desk, can pound to satisfaction. improves the furnioture in the process
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i have nfi, could be theatrical
mircea_popescu: jesus they make shitty tables now
mircea_popescu: aite then.
ang-st: well i have some not to be release numbers that would prove you wrong :) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i have my doubts re that last point, but glwith it!
ang-st: pretty ugly, almost robust, good to go on business
mircea_popescu: https://zebitcoin.com/gb/ << "buy and sell bitcoin with credit card". this... sounds like 2012!
ang-st: look a bit more than dns
ang-st: anyway there many people that are more involved than me in the project now
mircea_popescu: https://chiliproject.tetaneutral.net/projects/tetaneutral << is my search broken or are you not in there ?
ang-st: hence to much demands
ang-st: so basically there are the only one here
mircea_popescu: what's that ?
mircea_popescu: so basically the more active folks took off and made their own corp ? is it still in business ?
ang-st: 2 different area, 2 different problematic and the wish to go "for profit" ie build a company on top, create billed jobs
mircea_popescu: ang-st incidentally, what happened on march 2015 ? pretty much broke the organisation, what was it, the usual "colectif socialiste" internal quarrel and split ? who left ?
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, http://lesplanade.org/ that link of liaisons isn't that maintained is it ?
mircea_popescu: after all, the google "Volunteers" are there for the cafeteria.
mircea_popescu: sooo... it's not directly obvious how having money would increase teh volunteers 10fold ?
ang-st: event with a jet you can't be faster than a local motivated guy
mircea_popescu: ang-st most of those would be best recruited in a cafe in toulouse neh ? 80% or more of whatthey do being physical presence
ang-st: well ..on isp side deploy wifi networks, on hosting/core network side admin stuff, some amdinstrative task, troll (or not) in irc, move to local event ...
asciilifeform: otherwise any derp can 'hey mail me this machine'
asciilifeform: and needless to say none of these happen unless valid pgpgram
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform satellite node anyway, mostly there to judge the crowd than anything.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: very, very basic 'support' can't really be gone without -- 'pull disk #5 and put this-here that i mailed you in', 'tell this new box its ip', 'yank the box and mail to me, i'm going home' etc.
mircea_popescu: what'd those volunteers do ?
mircea_popescu: also support is not sought, i don't think, if by support you mean manpower as opposed to you know, cooling. (if the latter, there's really 0 interest in a "best effort dc / someone's house".) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: at this phase, interdicting the socialist mind's self-misrepresentations is quite sufficient.
mircea_popescu: ang-st protection from whatever soi-dissant "government" or whatever is not being contemplated at any point. what is being contemplated is not protecting the pretend-government itself from its own actions. so if it steals a box, that's fine, we shall say "the so and so illegitimate criminal gang stole so and so republican property" and that's that. no us-style "secrecy" is the whole story.
ang-st: we alreeady forked as the structure was to big
a111: Logged on 2017-11-09 18:32 mircea_popescu: ang-st there's a matter of scope here, your => 4652.00 (total en moyenne mensuelle) is 2/3 or so of the random advance pushed out to one purveyor of eventual tmsr.isp. the republic is indeed mighty in this sense ; meanwhile there's also an ideological rub, the republic is dedicatedly elitist whereas from what i see the whole point of this tetaneutral thing is to support specifically those-who-should-not-be-permitted-online,
ang-st: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-09#1735401 https://chiliproject.tetaneutral.net/projects/tetaneutral/wiki/Valeurs as a quick translate of main obecjtives i would say, lawfull privacy (we can't protect you from french authority), net neutrality , at your will price ☝︎
ang-st: if it works for them, i'm fine with it, anyway i would not follow their architectural advises, that's it :)
mircea_popescu: limon is thereby a neighbourhood with a different coutume, which is to say eating huge platters of badly done teriyaki and thinking "hotel" is "i built some rooms atop the garage myself and will permit vagabonds to crash there".
mircea_popescu recently went to limon, on the basis of one chick observing "Hey, most of the local girls we fuck are actually from limon! maybe check out the source ?" then couldn't find either an acceptable restaurant or hotel, so turned the capsule back and returned home.
mircea_popescu: sure. but im not going there.