asciilifeform: Framedragger: there is a hash-free variant.

asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/faq << lightly massaged.

asciilifeform: ;;later tell BingoBoingo http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20160531005770/en/Time-Confirms-Breach-Myspace << for yer lulz collection

asciilifeform: supposing phf ever has the time to make such a thing.

asciilifeform: my 1 remaining wishlist item would be something like a nightly (weekly?) tarball of the whole log shebang.

asciilifeform likes phf's l0gz as they now appear.

asciilifeform: ~now~ we're cookin'!

asciilifeform: very neat. srsly.

asciilifeform: ty phf .

asciilifeform: phf: spiffy, appears to work !

asciilifeform: also why the fuck should i reveal to world where and in what order shit is in my db.

asciilifeform: retarded wwwisms.

asciilifeform: and wtf why omfg.

asciilifeform: i could, say, shit out the index used by the db internally - but then i'd be married to that db

asciilifeform: they only have the bare essentials, a what and a when.

asciilifeform: nope.

asciilifeform: and never lose it

asciilifeform: because i would have to save it somewhere

asciilifeform: trinque: wouldn't work.

asciilifeform: (see also contextual thread)

asciilifeform: Framedragger: also we had http://btcbase.org/log/2016-02-04#1396562 ☝︎

asciilifeform: Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-02-02#1394086 << start of the conversation ☝︎

asciilifeform: not a single symmetric cipher other than otp has ever been proven to be worth a sparrow's fart. ☟︎

asciilifeform: Framedragger: it isn't an opinion, it is a statement of iron fact, like 2+2==4.

asciilifeform: Framedragger: quite certainly no one enjoys.

asciilifeform: Framedragger: you weren't here for the 'symmetric crypto other than otp is snake oil' thread. get thee to the logz.

asciilifeform: Framedragger: not only it does, but likewise has unknown weak key space

asciilifeform: this is 'minsky's dark room' all over again. ☟︎

asciilifeform: but how is blind luck collision less of a problem ?

asciilifeform: when the process is sped up artificially we call it a break,

asciilifeform: eventually all interesting hashes will collide (have collided)

asciilifeform: a device based largely on wishful thinking.

asciilifeform: it is a dodge.

asciilifeform: i never really liked the idea of a hash. ☟︎

asciilifeform: e.g., the gpgkey hash

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: plenty of hashes in there to collide

asciilifeform: let the barf flow.

asciilifeform: i made it a hash of everything including epochal time.

asciilifeform: aha.

asciilifeform: trinque: i implemented as per your recipe, it ought to work now ?

asciilifeform: that also.

asciilifeform: which is fine. it will be good to have 2.

asciilifeform: my notion of what proper log is seems to be screamingly in conflict with phf's.

asciilifeform: will prolly end up writing own log viewer, at this rate.

asciilifeform: for no good reason that i know of.

asciilifeform: and now i can't.

asciilifeform: for instance, i used to be able to read the log by hitting 'reload' ☟︎

asciilifeform: and in several different ways.

asciilifeform: aha.

asciilifeform: phf: i reject breaking working shit for no reason.

asciilifeform: or any of it

asciilifeform: or, for instance, the fact that datetime has NO DEFAULT string representation

asciilifeform: the whole pile of shit is loathesome

asciilifeform: and you are ? why ?

asciilifeform: trinque: care to hazard a guess why it works 100% on kako's feed ?

asciilifeform: monotonically increasing ?

asciilifeform: trinque: unique how

asciilifeform: as if that were the only item.

asciilifeform: and most of'em died.

asciilifeform: trinque: the last time the west produced functioning adults was prolly pre-ww2.

asciilifeform: ^

asciilifeform: hey, when the man is asleep ~somebody~'s gotta proffer the pineapple!111 ☟︎

asciilifeform: broomstick!111

asciilifeform: (using various whippy, stretchy hardware)

asciilifeform: eh iirc mircea_popescu flies these in and reprogramms them to spec in days. ☟︎

asciilifeform: lel

asciilifeform: trinque: what's the alternative? only date chix born and raised in #t ?

asciilifeform: trinque: because expensive and because why.

asciilifeform: trinque: i, for instance, hesitate to set foot in san fran even as tourist !

asciilifeform: trinque: that was the mega-mystery in the linked article

asciilifeform: young chix are programmable, they would just as happily 'great is the prophet muhammad' if born elsewhere. ☟︎

asciilifeform: what sort of women was ben_vulpes's friend turning up ?

asciilifeform: explain?

asciilifeform: the judaic 'build the world' thing ?

asciilifeform: and what is this 'millenial disease' thing, i'm not convinced that it is a thing.

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: can haz detailz?

asciilifeform: for instance, i'm about to buy moar display. it will be an lcd. but if mircea_popescu buys another display, it won't be lcd, it'll be a thing where a gurl flips pixels manually. ☟︎

asciilifeform: and also your budget.

asciilifeform: etc.

asciilifeform: how big are your mice. how strong - the cat.

asciilifeform: depends!

asciilifeform: think of the gurl as a large bipedal cat.

asciilifeform: even more applicable.

asciilifeform: ah so then.

asciilifeform: iirc you have a pet dog. how do you live with his 'sense of entitlement' to his food dish ?

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-31#1474108 << how do you mean, trinque ? ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://qntra.net/2016/05/former-governors-johnson-and-weld-compose-us-libertarian-party-ticket/#comment-60104

asciilifeform: more so, even.

asciilifeform: that he won't part with.

asciilifeform: this is sorta like if you met a bloke who is starving, cold, etc. but has gold brick.

asciilifeform: chick is 25 yo ☟︎

asciilifeform: ^ what happened to BECOMING A PET ?

asciilifeform: 'I’ve since stopped using my heater. Have you ever slept fully clothed under several blankets just so you don’t get a cold and have to miss work? Have you ever drank a liter of water before going to bed so you could fall asleep without waking up a few hours later with stomach pains because the last time you ate was at work? I woke up today with stomach pains. I made myself a bowl of rice.' << wtf

asciilifeform: in unrelated nyooz, found spiffy game, http://www.zachtronics.com/tis-100

asciilifeform: no ?

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: you can always weigh her prior to assigning a berth

asciilifeform: dunno, looks like a wholly serviceable chik.

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: nfi. this detail is not to be found in linked piece.

asciilifeform: just like not whole usa costs like tokyo, as the west does, or is full of politicos, as the east is

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: not everywhere is infested like midwest