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mircea_popescu: a large subset of children require corrective heart surgery, grow into perfectly healthy adults.
asciilifeform: even nao imho thing is a mockery of the orig. 'p2p' premise
mircea_popescu: this is not a given.
asciilifeform: if it were a healthy birth, wouldn't need defibrillator when 5yo , would it
mircea_popescu: five thousand generals and a shortage of generalling you couldn't believe, it's like the island with >9k fishermen which last saw a fish painted on a tuna can.
mircea_popescu: somewhat professoral a worldview, i guess.
mircea_popescu: it's always a fascinating question, this, "srsly, you lot ended up making the bolshevik party ?!?!?!"
mircea_popescu: "i'm not putting another shit on trilema, there's one there and i can't discern how a 2nd woul add anything". nevertheless -- the nut's uncrackable, you literally do not know in 2015 what you will like to read of 2015 in 2019.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-23 18:33 asciilifeform: 'My sound cancelling headphone make excellent earmuffs while walking to The Donald's ' << this has gotta be a joak
asciilifeform: e.g. that poor bastard mircea_popescu dug up, with the http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-23#1898935 , he has some obv. relevant 'death of open sores' history in there, but i can only stomach maybe 15min at a time of reading his chronicle ☝︎
mircea_popescu: you don't generally know what you will like to read, is the problem here. and this is not a resolvable problem for good and fundasmental reasons, also.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i like all 3 notations. for erry size of hammer there is a time an' place.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-23 18:34 mircea_popescu: "Busy all day. The phone just would not stop ringing. Mark called several times (some of them about Paychex), Stu called (oops, late to meet him for lunch), my sister called (wants me to buy her a house, but in a good way), I called my grandparents to thank them for the Red Lobster gift card Fade and I used for dinner, the series of phone calls from Eric was because he had to debug a problem with the gpsd test suite hanging o
a111: Logged on 2019-02-24 06:42 mircea_popescu: witness how instagram is chock full of a bunch of pretentious pictures of foods/travels/whatever that the putative "authors" ~aspire~ to.
mircea_popescu does very little actually creative work ; merely not getting in the way of people trying to make things is a full time job
asciilifeform: hanbot: orig 'v' was an asciilifeform torture room item, but it was other folx who made it actually useful ( mircea_popescu -- conceived a philosophical foundation for it, conceptually; ben_vulpes -- documented; mod6 et al -- reimplemented , and filled missing pheature holes ; trb users -- battlefield-tested; phf -- keccakized; etc )
asciilifeform: it remains true that the 'canonical' piece re subj was by ben_vulpes ( http://cascadianhacker.com/07_v-tronics-101-a-gentle-introduction-to-the-most-serene-republic-of-bitcoins-cryptographically-backed-version-control-system ) tho
a111: Logged on 2019-02-24 06:47 hanbot wouldn't for a moment think of v as belonging in the set of "failed attempts"/"ugliness or banality potential of life on earth", but otherwise the problem of desire to control perception is spot-on. i certainly have that problem, "x isn't polished enough", "i'll write about y when it's all done and i know what the score is" etc
mircea_popescu: lobbes your work inspired a trilema megapiece!
mircea_popescu: and alf of 2015 was a lot less confident in his own product than there was any cause to (for the obvious reasons he occasionally discusses, http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-04#1892360 and all that) ☝︎
mircea_popescu: but you see, ~before~ "v" existed, in the sense you understand it now, v also existed as a thing that hasn't yet existed.
hanbot wouldn't for a moment think of v as belonging in the set of "failed attempts"/"ugliness or banality potential of life on earth", but otherwise the problem of desire to control perception is spot-on. i certainly have that problem, "x isn't polished enough", "i'll write about y when it's all done and i know what the score is" etc ☟︎
mircea_popescu: witness how instagram is chock full of a bunch of pretentious pictures of foods/travels/whatever that the putative "authors" ~aspire~ to. ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: before i made nicole go naked on her knees NOBODY EVER imagined going naked on your knees is the proper path towards a technical career. before i published that thing, it wasn't self obvious it should be on loper-os. and so fucking following.
hanbot: asciilifeform do you have a url handy for your original, absolutely first-ever post on V? i'd like to link to it. (and while i'm at it, mircea_popescu why doesn't http://trilema.com/2015/no-such-labs-releases-v-for-victory/ link to it?)
lobbes: Luckily, this time around I have a 40MB screenlog to parse through. Will return once I have a more substantive understanding of where exactly the failure points are when trying to build my kernel config ☟︎
lobbes: However, I've got some detective work to do now; Last night I ran the Cuntoo script (using the same kernel used for the above functioning Gentoo, and aimed at a usb drive), however when building the kernel I saw a spew of "error: cannot read XYZ elf file" and then it drops me out of the bootstrap.sh
lobbes: good day, #t. Quick update on what I've been doing lately: I've been on a bridge-to-cuntoo quest. Firstly, I spent the last week or so successfully getting a hand-rolled classic Gentoo installed on my lappy; complete with alf's classic crapolade masks, functioning networking, gcc-musl, ave1's gnat, and diana_coman's v setup (tested and working splendidly, I will add).
mircea_popescu: the united states does not have the required skilled workforce to maintain nuclear plants, let alone build them. it's a foregone conclusion.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the 1 natural resource not yet exhausted in north amer, is (shit-grade) coal. lizards are fixin' for a return to 'golden age' of soot and aerially-dispersed thorium, for coupla decades nao
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo they'll prolly go for it, as the easiest thing to maintain. (in other words : heating new york is impossible as a matter of fact -- the best way to "explain" this to the affected while maintaining control is to pretend it's deliberate)
BingoBoingo: Well, one Pantsuit primary election faultline is appearing to be a "Green New Deal" that consists of eliminating fuels and nuclear power within 10 years. A proposal that makes... heating New York impossible
mircea_popescu: the us has been de-industrializing on the strength of the imbecility and sloth of the population for a century straight.
mircea_popescu: or i guess the gain is that inept bois who can't afford a cup of standardcoffee at the standardshop could pretend like they're "fixing it" for 8 years, which is to say most of their productive life ?
mircea_popescu: a functionally iliterate moron from illinois/kenya got to fist bump with the functionally illiterate morons polishing the white house floors. i guess that's a gain in fried chicken ?
a111: Logged on 2014-07-19 03:17 mircea_popescu: there for all eternity, to confront generations of bright teenagers that'll take about five minutes to figure out she's a furniture, and maybe not torture her for it. maybe.
mircea_popescu: in short, obama is the ~by product~ of a bunch of retarded white boys, nothing else.
mircea_popescu: guy's political intuitions are remarkably weak : "All along, their big worry was the price of oil would rise to the point where alternative energy sources became _cheaper_, and people started funding research into them not out of altruistic or environmental motives but because there was money to be made in the near term. The massive price decline in oil is a mixed blessing for OPEC; it shrinks their paycheck but diverts even
asciilifeform: 'Biked to the chick-fil-a on ben white. In 95 degree heat.' 'The hot water started working again this afternoon. Life is good.' 'For the record, a $5 gift card at starbucks doesn't _quite_ buy a mint hot chocolate and a slice of lemon pound cake, but it comes close.' << oook asciilifeform's dosimeter is fully black
mircea_popescu: "If I go home, I'll be endlessly pestered by cats. If I go into a room and close the door, they'll claw at it, the whole time." << dood had some srs problems. i sent much less disrespectful cat flying out window.
asciilifeform: 'A sad day; the McDonald's double cheeseburger is no longer a dollar menu item. They now have the "McDouble" (which is the same thing but only one slice of cheese), but it's a sign that the whole thing is likely to drop off soon. Apparently, just because the economy has imploded doesn't mean we haven't still got galloping inflation.' << there's 9000 of these, i'ma leave off , so as not to ruin appetites
asciilifeform: 'So there's a small but nonzero chance that if the suit over the Linksys build system goes to trial that I would be on Cisco's defense team working against the SFLC. Maybe even testifying in court against them. Considering I still think the SFLC is in the wrong here, I'm pretty happy with this.' << whatever happened with that
mircea_popescu: "Busy all day. The phone just would not stop ringing. Mark called several times (some of them about Paychex), Stu called (oops, late to meet him for lunch), my sister called (wants me to buy her a house, but in a good way), I called my grandparents to thank them for the Red Lobster gift card Fade and I used for dinner, the series of phone calls from Eric was because he had to debug a problem with the gpsd test suite hanging o ☟︎
asciilifeform: 'My sound cancelling headphone make excellent earmuffs while walking to The Donald's ' << this has gotta be a joak ☟︎
asciilifeform: ilar. If it's not electronically searchable, it won't matter... ...Project Gutenberg will scan in and OCR the public domain books, but in 100 years will anybody remember that UPI (a competitor to AP that went belly up a few years ago) even existed' << poor bugger
asciilifeform: 'Yesterday Fade wanted to know why Reuters and the Associated Press don't let their content stay on the web long. It's because they're old newspaper service organizations that want to charge for access to their archives. Places like Yahoo news subscribe to their content, then have to take it down after a couple weeks. It's funny that most of what future generations are going to know about 1995 onwards will be from archive.org and sim
mircea_popescu: "So yesterday, I told paychex the exact amount of money that was in Impact account, and the portion of that Mark and I each earned, and that my main concern was not bouncing a check. Today, they want to deduct $253.50 more from the account than I told them was in it. Â This did not seem to raise any red flags on their end." << keks. "paychex", also still in business. also still doing the same exact thing -- meanwhile it's
asciilifeform: phjaques Also these new chicken mcnugget commercials are utterly revolting.") Penn Jilette also posted about taking his kids out for hamburgers and a movie. Warren Ellis posting anything, really.'
asciilifeform: 'Twitter continues to be strange. Where else can you read one line posts from famous people and realize how very little they normally have to say? Just read three consecutive posts from uberlawyer Lawrence Lessig about his air travel arrangements ("@lessig second hour delay SFO2BOS just announced"), Howard Tayler of Schlock Mercenary ("@howardtayler just finished a two-hour nap. Ahhh."), and Jeph Jacques of Questionable Content ("@je
mircea_popescu: dood spent a lot of time disogranisedly fighting the [to him, invisibly] organised morons.
asciilifeform: 'The 2.6.28 merge window is open, and I'm coming up with a third perl removal patch. ' << watever happened to this ?
mircea_popescu: the wrong approach. The right fix is sometimes a completely different patch, and sometimes there are several ways to do it which will work, but you have to pick _one_ way or they'll interfere with each other." and so on and so forth.
mircea_popescu: anyway, equally lulzy is rob langley trying to explain to bellard and assorted nicks why and wherefore wikipedia is a bad thing.
asciilifeform: was an a++ golden age dos era cpptron, ended up opensores'd , unusually, when vendor folded
mircea_popescu: "Tinycc was once closer to offering a serious open source alternative to gcc than anything else, and it's still simpler (and smaller, and faster), but part of the definition of its development community was a willingness to deal with development tools from the days of DOS." << what was his problem specifically to this day we do not know (beyond cvs not being able to handle namechanges, much like ~every other wanna-be v until
asciilifeform: afaik didn't go away, still exists, there's a pokemonist den somewhere not far from here
mircea_popescu: literally their entire collected works consist of a bunch of them, face to face, tablet/smartphone clutched with white knuckles, finding pokemons.
mircea_popescu: it's a wonder that "game" went away, it was the game of fucking life for these "free and open source" minds.
mircea_popescu: and they never, ever, no matter the fuck what EVER engage in any meaningful exchange. two fucking ignominous tards finding pokemons in front of each other on a subway platform. that's all it is.
mircea_popescu: it makes a fucking difference, even before we stop to consider that the native female ~also has different primitives~ one can leverage to obtain satisfactory results without going the exact same path.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: to this very day trinque-style plane runs on 100 octane cum pb. there's a filling station for these not far from where asciilifeform stands .
mircea_popescu: as a factual matter, there wouldn't have been ww2 us bombers under any other paradigm.
mircea_popescu: yes. much like a leaded fuel AIRPLANE can make sense.
mircea_popescu: in short, it's a bunch of stupid cunts tryna pretend like the kitchen's the world.
mircea_popescu: except that pretense is obviously enough a bald face lie, if they were ignorant they couldn't be this systematic.
mircea_popescu: anyway, a lot could be said re the standard interactions between these unmitigated assholes. take http://trilema.com/2013/how-to-fail-the-scott-locklin-method/ and compare/contrast to http://archive.is/QA0cl#selection-511.1-521.5 or http://archive.is/FyVWH#selection-277.1-287.38 or ten trillion other examples.
asciilifeform: re : 'difficult for changes to be inserted unnoticed' -- did they ever even pin a name on the debian rng lulz ?
mircea_popescu: whereas everyone else, traditionally, will just fucking permit themselves to be dragged down to the lowest common denominator rather than behead a misbehaving old hand.
mircea_popescu: "He said that they have also contacted the GNU Arch maintainer about adding GPG signing. Though it may take some time to develop, the addition of GPG signing to commits would be a welcome feature. " << see, because we http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-24#1775402 over his failure to bring gribble up to spec. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: "To that end, the compromise may actually be a good thing in the long run. Kuhn said that they have contacted the CVS maintainers and have offered to pay for development of features that would allow GPG signing of commits through CVS -- making it much more difficult for changes to be inserted unnoticed into code held in a CVS repository." << guess how far this made it, 15 years later.
asciilifeform: may take some time to develop, the addition of GPG signing to commits would be a welcome feature.' << afaik to this very day no such thing in opensoresdom (outside of linus's releases)
asciilifeform: 'To that end, the compromise may actually be a good thing in the long run. Kuhn said that they have contacted the CVS maintainers and have offered to pay for development of features that would allow GPG signing of commits through CVS -- making it much more difficult for changes to be inserted unnoticed into code held in a CVS repository. He said that they have also contacted the GNU Arch maintainer about adding GPG signing. Though it
mircea_popescu: but they don't say "by his lordship's authority, gna". they say "phylosophycally!!!!" which is a keyword with these functionally iliterate morons, and it's a keyword for specifically "this is where real republic instrument would go, if it existed as it does but we heretically deny"
mircea_popescu: menalone, a very expensive bioengineering project aiming to emulate two ounce mice in 200lb hominid hardware.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-28 18:01 asciilifeform: meanwhile, in copyrasty lulz: https://archive.is/wpwpo << ms-shithub posts dmca wank publicly nao ; this one's against a linuxkernelism. ( https://github.com/github/dmca << moar of these than anyone could ever stomach , some quite lulzy )
mircea_popescu: ge, but it has a bright future because it is rooted in a cooperative effort of people sharing Free Software. "
mircea_popescu: "Some months ago I helped to launch Savannah for the GNU project because I felt the need of a collaboratively run platform. With friends and co-developpers we are now re-writing and packaging distributed development hosting software. The idea is to be able to install and operate a SourceForge-like site within hours. Savannah will run this software at the end of this year. At first it may have less functionality than SourceFor
mircea_popescu: ed it with real people, but instead permitted a buncha weasels to run with it, not even under the supervision and signature of an established lord, because my mother dropped me repeatedly on hard floors during breastfeeding]."
mircea_popescu: ker data /export/sf_tracker_export.php. Few people are aware of the later because it is undocumented. The export page explains how to use scripts that don't exist anymore; implementation of facilities to ease project extraction was stopped. The developer community is exclusively made of VA Linux employees and a few people who are asked not to disclose the current code [and I didn't declare this a strategic objective, nor fill
mircea_popescu: "The move to non-free software was the culmination of a series of steps designed to lock users in. There never was a way to fully extract projects from SourceForge [and I never said anything about this because I, rms, am a moron unfit to lead a L-shaped ambush, let alone an entire world], but efforts were made in this direction--then this year they were removed. At present the only things you can get are the CVS tree and trac
mircea_popescu: ber 9, 1999, during the dot-com bubble, VA Linux became a public company via an initial public offering and Augustin, then 38-years old, became a billionaire on paper. In August 2002, Augustin left VA Linux and from September 2002 to December 2004, he was a partner at Azure Capital Partners, where he helped lead Azure’s investments in Zend Technologies and Medsphere. In 2005, Augustin joined the board of directors of SugarC
mircea_popescu: anyway, for thread completeness : "In 1993, Augustin founded VA Research (later VA Linux and Geeknet), while a Ph.D. student at Stanford. Augustin was a Stanford colleague of Jerry Yang and David Filo, the founders of Yahoo!. Filo and Yang introduced Augustin to Sequoia Capital, which provided Augustin with venture capital. In November 1999, he launched SourceForge, a collaborative development environment or "forge". On Decem
mircea_popescu: "Because of the convenience of SourceForge, many Free Software developers have come to take this collection of features for granted, and would be reluctant to go back to the old way of doing things. Unfortunately, this means that when SourceForge itself takes a turn for the worse, it tends to pull Free Software developers down with it. "
mircea_popescu: the foregoing has the disadvantage a very good man is still smarting from it ; the latter however IS FUCKEN POISON.
asciilifeform: these particular mice i dun think ever ate one single crumb of cheese that wasn't from a mousetrap.
mircea_popescu: get the fuck out of here. in adult world there's such a thing as "this tall to ride".
asciilifeform: he attempted this -- 'hurd'. but was unable to commission a working kernel.
mircea_popescu: WHY did not rms say "you MUST unify the toolchain" at such a time as ~before~ ers could step in to do it for his usual expectation of a coversion gain ?
mircea_popescu: it takes a person to be dumber than a mouse.
asciilifeform: 'mice-be-gone exterminator corp. brought our mouse kingdom a unified and standard cheese distribution methodology based on modern tools. before the mousetraps were installed, such tools were available individually, we had to scour the kitchen manually for crumbs of cheese, but few mice used'em, because they had to set up.... ...mice-be-gone made the combination conveniently available for both larval and experienced mice...'
mircea_popescu: it should be instructive exactly ~how~ ers's warcrime as you (with cause) call it made its way into rms's naive ranch of cattle purity : "SourceForge brought to Free Software a unified and standard development methodology based on modern tools. Before SourceForge, such tools (bug tracking, cvs, web, support, forums, polls, news, etc.) were available individually, but few developers used many of them together, because they had
a111: Logged on 2016-03-28 13:11 mircea_popescu: upon consideration, i see no reason to continue supporting or otherwise encourage kakobrekla's bizarre worldview. on the contrary, i view further involvement with the nonsense as considerable moral hazard, and a miserable thing to do altogether.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i suppose one could use the item linked as a compare/contrast with http://btcbase.org/log/2016-03-28#1440673 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so they were using a logotron made by someone not in the l1, big whoop. (then you realise they apparently HAD NO IDEA this is what they're doing, or what a l1 even is -- suddenly the "big whoop" turns to "wtf is wrong with these idiots")
mircea_popescu: they have SUCH a fucking ridiculous, fucking obvious, structurally-stable passive-aggressive approach to things, jesus god. one can literally identify, tag and mark the invidious bernie sandals socialist by this his most peculiar approach to conflict and social hierarchy.
mircea_popescu: what the fuck must be going in through their skulls to view "advertisement spend from proprietary competitor on my page" as anything but a) a great lul and b) hey, nice, i'll be sure to buy more dog toys for the bitches out of THEIR MONEY
mircea_popescu: you see, THIS is what i'm fucking worried about, getting an add for a "proprietary competitor". cuz that's what we're fucking doing here.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform probably because "Savannah has high project approval requirements and thus visitors can expect freedom-related qualities from projects hosted here (such as no proprietary dependencies). Moreover, there are no advertisements, thus you do not run the risk of getting an ad for a proprietary competitor on your project page."
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: phunphakt, in '07 asciilifeform naively tried to get a repo hosted there. was ~turned down~
asciilifeform: mega-'cooperation', these folx fight like two cannibals on lifeboat when given half a chance