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a111: Logged on 2017-12-26 22:06 l0de:
to get viewers of my show interested in
their political goals
a111: Logged on 2017-12-26 23:02 mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758790 << especially in
the light of 1. move/rename 2. edit double-patch method
this seems more and more like
the right
thing ; but
then again what
to do of regrinds ? regrind should ideally be "one patch out of many"
a111: Logged on 2017-12-26 23:04 mircea_popescu: my original
thought was "can we do something like
the
tits drip but for sw enthusiasts instead ?" ; alf pointed out
thatr well, carrierless issue.
shinohai: Yeah sofiababy left in huff, just noticed she had pm'd me
to find her on skype but cba with
that.
mircea_popescu: if we had a chinese girl
that'd work, except, of course...
a111: Logged on 2017-12-26 22:22 danielpbarron: wasn't indiancandy/sofiababy looking for a way
to make bitcoin?
a111: Logged on 2017-12-26 22:19 shinohai: Assuming I can find one
that speaks English nowadays ..... xD
a111: Logged on 2017-12-26 22:14 l0de: Or you can have someone call in
to read a statement
mircea_popescu: if anyone's got an idea of how
to construct
the item
though i'd much like
to hear.
mircea_popescu: my original
thought was "can we do something like
the
tits drip but for sw enthusiasts instead ?" ; alf pointed out
thatr well, carrierless issue.
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2017-12-26 22:02 danielpbarron: relatedly, l0de expressed interest in running a "trilema infomercial" on his show. I
told him he should bring it up in here, as i'm not sure what
that should entail
a111: Logged on 2017-12-26 21:42 phf: we also at some point had a
thread, where i believe ascii but also others were leaning
towards
the idea of a single file vpatches (i.e.
that a vpatch should only ever contain hunks for a single file). i'm starting
to
think
that multi-file solutions in general are a hack ("we can't fit
the entire compilation in memory"), but
then i've been looking at
TeX on one hand, and
the "millions of support files" in diff/patch on
the other
a111: Logged on 2017-12-26 21:40 phf: ben_vulpes: official
trb releases
touch many files
to
tie
them all into a single endpoint, e.g. `makefile' did
that
phf: If you have only
the present report, not a
tape, you will have
to prepare files WEAVE.WEB and
TANGLE.WEB by hand,
typing
them into
the computer by following Appendices D and E.
Then you have
to simulate
the behavior of
TANGLE by converting
TANGLE.WEB manually into
TANGLE.PAS ; with a good
text editor
this
takes about six hours.
phf: in unrelated lulz, knuth shares mp approach
to discipline:
trinque: shinohai, you are
the baron
titsbare himself; got any camhos
that can read?
l0de: someone with a
thick romanian\cambodian accent reading a statement
they obviously do not understand
l0de: no nudity
though, youtube is run by craven puritans
shinohai: Assuming I can find one
that speaks English nowadays ..... xD
☟︎ danielpbarron: perhaps we can get one of shinohai's cam whores
to do it
l0de: as
they are internet neer-do-wells
l0de: I would stress
that my audience doesn't
take anything seriously unless it's presented in a humorous context or it is presented as ruining someone's shit
l0de: Or you can have someone call in
to read a statement
☟︎ danielpbarron: would
that be a pre-recorded audio clip/ video
that we provide?
l0de: to get viewers of my show interested in
their political goals
☟︎ l0de: I suggest
the most serene republic air some sort of introductory statement
l0de: the funds have been remitted
to my account
danielpbarron: relatedly, l0de expressed interest in running a "trilema infomercial" on his show. I
told him he should bring it up in here, as i'm not sure what
that should entail
☟︎ danielpbarron: i
think so, but it'd be nice
to get a confirmation from him in here
phf: i don't remember if
there was any kind of interesting insight from
the resulting graph, i should revisit it..
phf: in which case your graph connections become mandatory
transitions (rather
than what it is now, where you can
technically press
two different vpatches against a non-overlapping sets of files)
phf: i've also played around with
treating vpatch as a container.
there's a function on btcbase for splitting all of
the vpatches into separate objects,
that each hold a single file changes (it's called something like explode-vpatch)
ben_vulpes: also, single-file vpatches drives
the system
towards whole sourcetree hashing, otherwise
they'll definitionally never depend on one another
phf: we also at some point had a
thread, where i believe ascii but also others were leaning
towards
the idea of a single file vpatches (i.e.
that a vpatch should only ever contain hunks for a single file). i'm starting
to
think
that multi-file solutions in general are a hack ("we can't fit
the entire compilation in memory"), but
then i've been looking at
TeX on one hand, and
the "millions of support files" in diff/patch on
the other
☟︎☟︎☟︎ ben_vulpes: phf:
this exposes another problem: in ideal vtronics it is an illegal operation
to press
to multiple leaves at
the same
tree level, which is
the only way
to have a codebase against which
to create a makefiles-type patch
that
ties multiple patches
together
☟︎ shinohai: Just in
time for
the holidaaaaaaaaaaays fake bitcoin returns
phf: ben_vulpes: official
trb releases
touch many files
to
tie
them all into a single endpoint, e.g. `makefile' did
that
☟︎ ben_vulpes: phf: which vpatch does
this show up in?
ben_vulpes: this still leaves me in
the pickle of producing a vpatch from a press
to a
that won't actually descend linearly from a without
touching a file, and adding "this line necessary
to ensure
this vpatch descends from a and not genesis"
☟︎ mircea_popescu: then if it is,
trinque's point goes away because well... file hash as good as project hash for
the linear bat.
diana_coman: onth "meaningful"
there doesn't refer
to code only and if new code in new files depends on existing code in untouched existing files, it may be meaningful nevertheless
to update
the readme file of
the project for instance
to say as much
ben_vulpes: so far
the solutions i see are a) mircea_popescu's "what
tree, all patches must descend linearly or be reground into linearity" 2) allow for pressing heads
that do not
touch
the same files
mircea_popescu: trinque
this is actually not altogether a meritless point.
diana_coman: I ran a bit into
that with eucrypt but I can't say I have some clear idea what would be a good solution
there as it seems
to me it's a matter of level considered i.e. file, folder, component, whole project, what
ben_vulpes: it may be
that
tracking hashes at
the file level isn't
the right
thing, because with vdiff as implemented i can
trivially generate a vpatch b while working from a press of a
that nevertheless still only depends on genesis if a leaves files untouched and b
touches
those untouched files only
trinque: further, pointless edits are antithetical
to v-tronics
a111: Logged on 2017-12-26 17:52 ben_vulpes:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758614 << consider a genesis, a and b patchset where a and b don't
touch
the same files. if i press
to b, write a c
that descends from b, it will not have a as an antecedent. when you say "modify
the filebase into
the shape
that you want it
to be", do you mean include
the changes of a in
the c patch?
trinque:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758679 <<
to my mind
this suggests
the hashes present in vpatch blocks are wrong. if
they were rather
the hash of
the entire concatenation of
the diffed item before and after applying
that block,
there'd be no need
to pointlessly edit files
to continue on
the same branch.
☝︎☟︎☟︎ shinohai: This is hilarious on
thepiratebay website, on
the donation footer says: "Bcash: LOL"
☟︎ diana_coman: ben_vulpes, he started sounding
too much like mpi-insane
mod6: TMSR~: mod6.net is back up.
Thanks.
borstal: Right Banks, you bastard! I'm
the daddy now, next
time, I'll fucking kill ya!
ben_vulpes: it's still 2017, borstal, what do you have
to show for how you've lived your life?
mircea_popescu just dumped a whole sack of coal on
teh grill,
teh girls happily cleanning up a grosse of pleurotus... if anyone needs me ima be at
teh rancho bbqing.
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2017-12-26 19:46 BingoBoingo: At
the rate
things are moving by mid 2018,
the demand for openess
to get a lend of voice is likely going
to be self performed rectal ultrasound on mfc while reading logs
BingoBoingo: There's chicas everywhere so if
that fell
through no big deal...
The concerted effort put for by
the locals on
the Latino Christmas show, I lack
the patience and means
to make
that happen on a whim.
BingoBoingo: One doesn not see
the city in
the splendid glow of burning metal salts in
the sky without missing
them.
BingoBoingo: Ah
the lols
to come from venue shopping n00bs
mircea_popescu: go make yer castles
today, so noobs have a shot at life in 2018
☟︎ BingoBoingo: At
the rate
things are moving by mid 2018,
the demand for openess
to get a lend of voice is likely going
to be self performed rectal ultrasound on mfc while reading logs
☟︎ mircea_popescu: "avoidant" as per
teh "attachment
theory" nonsense
that pantsuit "public policy" rests upon
phf: would
that be considered "a coy behavior"?
BingoBoingo: That's not very informative, you've expended both your strikes. One last chance
to make a good impression.
shinohai: mp-wp worked equally well on apache and nginx for me. Never used another db besides mysql
tho
danielpbarron: i'm familiar with apache but i was
trying out nginx at first for
this
danielpbarron: photographed
the unboxing
to maybe post on blog when i figure
this mp-wp
thing out
mircea_popescu: hanbot no but see,
THIS is what a classical education fucking is. not retarded fry making hobbit jokes because hey,
the history according
to fry started when he first got a bit of usg.corp fried chicken.
hanbot: in other puns, i discovered just
this morning
that "hippopotamus" is
the latin horse + river, had missed out on
the double pun fun of
http://trilema.com/2017/the-hippopotamus/ 's last line. i stand in awe and horror of whomever ends up adnotating
trilema
mircea_popescu: because nothing less
than
this is at stake ; and do not make stray patches if you can help it.
mircea_popescu: so as
the reconciler, you get
to pick which of ~either~ a ~or~ b
to count in your considered oppinion as
the republican and which as
the heretic.
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2017-12-24 17:02 mircea_popescu: because it will cost someone's
time
to reconcile.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-26 17:52 ben_vulpes:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758614 << consider a genesis, a and b patchset where a and b don't
touch
the same files. if i press
to b, write a c
that descends from b, it will not have a as an antecedent. when you say "modify
the filebase into
the shape
that you want it
to be", do you mean include
the changes of a in
the c patch?
mircea_popescu: "the arrangement leaves me stranded when eg
trying
to understand why hillary lost, but
that's ok, i'm not really meant
to understand
things."
mircea_popescu: "oh, i read cnn for
the commentary,
the boobs are INCIDENTAL. also, fleshhouse and playcunt, same deal. oh and
those letters
to
the editor ?
totes legit!"