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Framedragger: i certainly see that, especially looking at gnu cat (omfg)
Framedragger: yes well, granted it doesn't support additional command line args, so has to handle fewer things. but then, maybe that, too, is *also* correct...
Framedragger: nice find.
Framedragger thought `dd` was one of those few 'no hidden bullshit, what you see is what you get' utilities from better times
Framedragger: flabbergasted. may as well embrace tmsr's default malice interpretation here. because seriously. ☟︎
Framedragger: apparently it's posix tradition didntyaknow
Framedragger: "Note if the input may return short reads as could be the case when reading from a pipe for example, ‘iflag=fullblock’ will ensure that ‘count=’ corresponds to complete input blocks rather than the traditional POSIX specified behavior of counting input read operations." OK
Framedragger: that's so *silent* and sneaky tho.
Framedragger: it's like the modern website. "i expect good bandwidth. you have low bandwidth? fuck yourself"
Framedragger: mp is now like "i told ya so!!! tail!!!"
Framedragger: :D
Framedragger: also NOT ITS JOB
Framedragger: it's /dev/urandom but worse
Framedragger: why in the fuck would that be useful
Framedragger: asciilifeform: whaaaaaaaaat
Framedragger: smooth troubleshooting!
Framedragger: mats: ah, sounds cool :)
Framedragger: mats: why this particular paper? unless no good comparisons till now, but kinda hard to believe? just curious.
Framedragger: ^ lots of trust from lending *to* folks, heh (well i got a bit of it via that, too)
Framedragger: sent email kindly requesting post mortem or *anything*, can't hurt. probably lots of people did that tho.
Framedragger: ah they're not gone from e.g. mp's page (but gone from mine). anyway, no rush / low priority (!!wot gives the full thing anyway)
Framedragger: trinque: wot.deedbot.org older ratings (from #bitcoin-otc et al.) gone? they were there just before. or is this intended?
Framedragger: ty for deedbot trinque, looks good!
Framedragger: it does feel that way.
Framedragger: maybe sometimes just need that new-environment-kick/vibe to shift perspective. or maybe just hard, yeah
Framedragger: mmm. this will..recur, some decades later, in mind, i'm sure
Framedragger: hah! :) i see, i see
Framedragger: this time was like "she wants sex i just want to listen to her mind maaaan"
Framedragger: funnily this one wasn't british, the latter are usually just plain..boring, man. maybe i can't find ways to excite them. but their minds, blergh
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-15#1644022 << i understand the importance of this question and shall attempt some kind of answer, or will properly fail. bit later (took mdma last night with girl, after ~3 year break. so much love omg.) ☝︎☟︎
Framedragger tried to joke
Framedragger: hah transcendent sex academy.. so in that realm in the comic, when dude puts transcendentally-ideal penis in vagina.. is that the infamous 'synthetic a priori' act??
Framedragger: (obvs if this 'works out' -- remains to be seen...)
Framedragger: )
Framedragger: asciilifeform: plenty of real estate in western yurop still up for sale. a *lot* of it may crash soon, but 'pockets' of it (e.g., specific places in italy (which in itself may / will crash, depending on your outlook) may be good investment, and they acknowledge that
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: chinese and other (e.g., south korean) bankers told a dude whom i believe in and who's paying me
Framedragger developing product to make real estate investment for chinese easier, actually. will report results and types of failure if any and if possible..
Framedragger: !!up airgapped
Framedragger: ah. yeah i concede/agree.
Framedragger bbl
Framedragger: trinque: didn't understand the reference hm, but (necessarily and totally) yes?..
Framedragger: trinque: i was being facetious. you're right of course
Framedragger: re. purchased honesty, well i dunno, two business partners entering business arrangement.. that's a thing that happens (cue mp "as we have seen, it doesn't! so can't ever!1")
Framedragger: nono, i agree.
Framedragger: heh re. latter, i'm sure there is ("pay my family suicide-money after my death")
Framedragger: yeah.
Framedragger: (larger profitable orgs may be able to implement this, with ample compensation, but, sure, not bbet.) ☟︎
Framedragger: yep, the only way this 'may' work if you have a partner whom you fully trust, and the arrangement of which somehow does not involve monetary compensation. which is ~untenable ☟︎
Framedragger: in consideration, machine + operator having keys is not a good idea and the risk is indeed multiplied. 2-of-2 sig doesn't work if one can do basic arithmetic.
Framedragger: boy do i abuse this channel
Framedragger: ah fuck
Framedragger: wait.
Framedragger: can't spend coin.
Framedragger: 'safe' as in usg hacking into machine doesn't do anything.
Framedragger: (to be clear: machine-which-can-send-moneys has to sign, and operator has to sign as well. necessarily both.)
Framedragger: trinque: asciilifeform: i did naively 'assume' that one could think of an arrangement when 2-of-2 or similar signature scheme would be 'safe'.
Framedragger: he tries to remedy but laptop battery dies.
Framedragger: anyway, i won't argue further.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: no; neither do they deal with EC backdoors or sun exploding. having a practical but limited-in-scope threat model is not useless in itself.
Framedragger: i can think of couple of approaches but i agree that they are not zero-in-cost, so, meh, i concede
Framedragger: maybe.
Framedragger: implementing a procedure to refund all bets if no signature by $key into $system, say. not that it's not easy to fuck this up royally.
Framedragger: but i see the point, low profit.
Framedragger: 200 bux is not absolutely nothing, first off; and second off, 17 btc? was that the profit in the last P&L? honestly don't remember
Framedragger: payout fee, he means
Framedragger: bitbet was/is profitable.
Framedragger: out of the fee which is 0?
Framedragger: not arranging if-hit-by-bus switch is irresponsible, hrm
Framedragger: doublespending double fees, this is bullish for ethereum
Framedragger: (i'm angry with nubbins for upsetting the discourse back then, even tho i wasn't involved at all. shit like http://btcbase.org/log/2016-03-08#1426930 ; he's of a different kind entirely cf. kako in my mind.) ☝︎
Framedragger: mod6: so sorry to hear that, man, my condolences.
Framedragger: nice.
Framedragger: AQ for al qaida?
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-13#1642997 << lulzy: http://www.ecsl.cs.sunysb.edu/elibrary/linux/network/udprecv.pdf diligently follows path of recvfrom() and the likes, *quotes the lines around the bug*, but fails to notice anything bad. if you didn't know, it'd be a very nuanced thing showing that the monk is not actually a good monk ☝︎
Framedragger: ah, ok interesting heh
Framedragger: tymoshenko?
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: ty
Framedragger: i sorta did want 'any and all jumps' but should be enough for now maybe
Framedragger: yeah
Framedragger: full n gave me nothing but i'll recheck again
Framedragger: bah.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: function call history for c proggy? i prolly am doing sth horribly wrong, tho
Framedragger: asciilifeform: would gdb be able to run on it, tho? with `record btrace`? just curious
Framedragger: heh.
Framedragger retires to pig farm
Framedragger: wtf apparently server with xeon cores doesn't support it, either?
Framedragger: (meanwhile gdb is "Target does not support branch tracing." (cpu doesn't support one way to do this; it's an i5; omg)
Framedragger: nice.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: nice, and seems realistic!
Framedragger: fulla set of different liquids
Framedragger: i'm hangover af after $party, everything is black currently (doesn't happen often, tbh)
Framedragger: only to an extent, and as BingoBoingo said, circulation. tide goes in, tide goes out
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i dare not say, it's more of an emergent effect, a piece from one, a piece of another, and you get a log full o' it
Framedragger: "custom shitty udp program" probably fits the bill
Framedragger: is just me i'm sure
Framedragger: huh gdb's `bt` is not giving me backtrace. i put a breakpoint on recvfrom(), it got called and everything, and `bt` gives me squat. compiled with debug symbols. go back to school framedragger
Framedragger: ah nice ^
Framedragger: asciilifeform: btw udp_recvmsg() is the kernel-internal function which is vulnerable. need to check callstack of recvfrom() vs recv(), possibly only recvfrom() is vulnerable (thereby reducing set of exposed programs greatly). otherwise even more funtimes. ☟︎
Framedragger: (it's possible that bug isn't triggered if you only recv(), not recvfrom(), but i didn't look into it to confirm)
Framedragger: asciilifeform: ah, only glibc etc if "recvfrom" in keywords, you're right. but if only "recv" (https://codesearch.debian.net/search?q=recv+.*+MSG_PEEK&page=1), then lots of results