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lobbes: btw I'm loving this multi-chan log-quote ability ben_vulpes. I bet this becomes a soft requirement for logotron relevancy
as the peripheral 'castles' continue to be added/populated
mircea_popescu: "HOWEVER YOU CAN'T SUE ME FOR SAYING ANY OF THIS BECAUSE IF YOU SUE ME YOU'D HAVE TO QUOTE ME IN COURT AND THEN I'D SUE YOU FOR QUOTING THIS COPYRIGHTED (C) MESSAGE!!! MY COUSINS ARE ALL LAWYERS !!!!!" <<< turns out the whole SOPS thing actually originated
as a usenet joke.
mircea_popescu: boston told them it's impossible to travel, no such thing
as learning languages or handling non-pantsuit fiatola currency is possible for human hands and minds.
BingoBoingo:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-01#1791878 << On this point the Northern Latinas, Venezolanas y Peruanas (And Chileñas though they aren't too much more Northern) know what they are doing.
As long
as the response is playful they remain worshipful. Uruguayas and it seems most Argentinas... whatever triggers their Laughs-Estrogen-Fun cycle seems to be broken. Deeply.
☝︎ ben_vulpes: i'll be sure to file updates here
as well going forward
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform discovered that it is impossible to get a per-user fastcgi hosting arrangement in place,
as both apache and i believe nginx desperately want root
mircea_popescu: considering also "Simply, I'd say that porting is impossible.
As already mentioned, it uses a MMU, for both paging (not to disk yet) and segmentation. It's the segmentation that makes it REALLY 386 dependent (every task has a 64Mb segment for code & data - max 64 tasks in 4Gb. Anybody who needs more than 64Mb/task - tough cookies)." i'd say it actually broadly lives up to the original design -- linux is a fine non-professiona
mircea_popescu: or they despise themselves so much (
as the direct and also necessary result of spending all their time involved with absolutely nothing else) that they automatically discount anything that happens to them by like 99.9999999%. because,
as the wise timuruc once said, "if you were a millionaire you wouldn't be talking to me"
phf: problem can also be solved with having entire project in one file, or trinque's approach os tracking hash chains for the entire directory (i.e. treating the whole press
as a single file)
mircea_popescu: rather, there's a shared understanding that's applied by degrees. because the sty is so dirty you have to peel layers off,
as the only possible approach.
mircea_popescu: or possibly everyone regarded trb
as a messy pile which isn't properly v-ified even today. like mpi, or like gentoo
mircea_popescu: with this mechanism no actual changes to v need to be made, it's a "soft fork"
as it were.
mircea_popescu: but in the general approach to the problem, 1. all specification will sort items into "always" "sometimes :
as per conditions" "never" and categories ; and 2. all refinement of specification will move items, but ONLY from the left to the right and not the other way around.
trinque: using it
as an exercise to sign all the patches I haven't, too.
phf: ultimately it doesn't matter what's inside manifest,
as long
as its hash is unique, e.g. it's append only log that requires >1 byte of change in each vpatch
trinque: phf: there are cases where two separate edits to separate files are both needed
as antecedents to yet a 3rd patch, which edits possibly neither of them.
trinque: with present V behavior, some file has to always be present
as an antecedent for any coherent line of history (there could be many)
mod6: it used to be in my V 99994 i would just blindly press all of the leaves, but that's was rejected
as not the right thing. but with the good changes that 99993 brings in, could let the user choose at press time. just food for thought.
mod6: and if not, then user just selects one leaf,
as is today. i dunno, would need some thought. i may be missing the mark here too.
phf: though a manifest could be used
as a kind of assert during press,
as long
as it doesn't rely on filenames. (i believe the idea of putting antecedent vpatch's hashes into manifest floated around)
phf: mod6: would you mind uploading that test tree somewhere? i want to throw it at btcbase. fwiw, vpatch/vdiff doesn't care about press tree,
as long
as the hashes work out in the end
mod6: fwiw, I think minus other targets, such
as the empty dir thing, it's probably going to be easier to regresion test without changes for those targets -- basically having a 1:1 mapping of the old to new.
phf: i'm not even through the list of target items yet, any one of them can be picked up
as an example of "didn't bother to implement any solution for"
mircea_popescu: um. no, i said
as much months ago, dja want me to dig the log ?
mircea_popescu: but "it's for the reader" is a very weak answer, because if patch 3 touching a and b is written so
as to include patch 2, whereas patch 3` touching a alone is written so
as not to include patch 2, "the reader" will have a most terrible time deciding which to use and why the fuck his build don't work.
phf: i'm saying that i understand the meta problem, because i've seen other people deal with it, and there's been a lot of competing proposals
as to how to solve it, including trb's "makefile" approach.
phf: trinque: can you produce a sample then? i don't want to implement your idea, having only vague understanding of how it's supposed to look. there's been many discussions in the log
as to what the actual manifest contents should include
trinque: not like I'd have been opposed; it's just easy to imagine what it'd look like. every patch has an antecedent of the history file,
as well
as whichever other files.
phf: a
as to what format the manifest supposed to be. i didn't realize that the idea is that vtools tree was supposed to be the first one to experiment with it
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a111: Logged on 2018-03-29 23:39 mircea_popescu: i suspect by now "autistic" is the equivalent of the 1800s "friend". "one of ours"
as opposed to "one of theirs"
a111: Logged on 2018-03-30 05:00 ave1: mod6, well your environment is sound and exactly the same
as mine. Also you get the same error. Spyked patch should fix it (or open lib/xalloc.h and add static to all inline void functions that do not already have a static). It may be that phfs' enviroment is different (so far
as I can see, spyked, hanbot, me and you all have the same problem).
diana_coman: to answer your question directly though: 1. it certainly could - rsa_oaep_encrypt is just a wrapper so it's meant more
as an example of using all the stuff together rather than a standard: I'd expect that there would be other/different wrappers, made to suit specific uses
ave1: mod6, well your environment is sound and exactly the same
as mine. Also you get the same error. Spyked patch should fix it (or open lib/xalloc.h and add static to all inline void functions that do not already have a static). It may be that phfs' enviroment is different (so far
as I can see, spyked, hanbot, me and you all have the same problem).
☟︎ mircea_popescu: douchebag but he has a point, there's a large pile of discord sluts / servers dedicated to them. can just
as well raid those.
mircea_popescu:
as long
as they jump through the hoops, they get the cents.
mircea_popescu: and "peasant civilisation"
as in mirvniki or the wooden civilisation that covered the hills of transylvania
as late
as the 1800s is "both must repress"
☟︎ mod6:
As I understood it most recently, he was at max weight already.
mircea_popescu: aite, so then : asciilifeform had a spare slot from what i understand, when he leaves in a coupla weeks he can haul it over for you. i'll even cover the cost on nsa's budget
as a donatrion to the foundation.
mod6: The current thinking is that this server still here will be racked locally to make use of it;
as soon
as we have pricing, and maybe a less item of less value shipped successfully, we'll have this one couriered down to Pizarro.
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mircea_popescu: i suspect by now "autistic" is the equivalent of the 1800s "friend". "one of ours"
as opposed to "one of theirs"
☟︎ ave1:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-29#1791023, mod6, did you run gprbuild -v in the directory containing vdiff.gpr, it did not seem to pick it up (it does with my local gprbuild, which has same version etc
as yours).? It should show the absolute path to the gcc that is used during the build.
☝︎ mircea_popescu: anyway, let's restate : "since you're stuck with a c library anyway
as long
as you're on c-machine, at the very least to do init and end ; and since musl is not that terrible and only links what you use anyway ; just use it and be done with the headache -- the alternative is bloating ada with nonsense"
ave1: So
as long
as the MUSL C library development stays sane, I would say follow it.
ave1: And if you want to do this for a C program, you will end up with much the same code
as MUSL.
ave1: So you've written that part in Ada but it's more clumsy
as it would have been in C (because your shuffling around with C arrays)
BingoBoingo: lobbes: More Germans I have talked to here are thinking Hungary than Austria
as places for their parents to retire.
mircea_popescu: but, that said,
as long
as he's evaluated it and it came out green, more power to him.
douchebag: they were all windows users so I just had em use gpg4win or whatever to make the process
as straightforward
as possible. Couldn't imagine it being
as easy telling them to use gpg CLI
mircea_popescu: Amygirl not really ; but i'll let you get away with it because nobody was quick enough an'
as a compliment to douchebag.
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trinque: stick around then. thing's right wing
as hell.
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la: yeah but I'm not
as smart
as you :(
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phf: i'd stop by karlovy vary for some hot springs, also i'm quite fond of tallinn
as far
as that whole medieval vibe
mircea_popescu: most of eastern europe can actually be ~walked~,
as per ye olde "church steeple within day's ride."
phf: i was frankly hoping this bug would be discovered not
as part of security audit, but somebody actually attempted to circumvent voice model for personal reasons. a worthy troll sort of deal..
trinque:
as things stand, the thing's quite stateless, which is nice.
trinque: my thinking on the thing is that it's
as simple
as each patch introducing a new line in HISTORY that matches the patch's name.
mod6: yup, ok. but
as far
as my "V" usage, was this correct?
mod6: But what I ended up doing is pressing to leaf 'vdiff_sha_fixes_newline_gcc.vpatch' into 'vtools', and pressing to leaf 'vtools-vpatch.vpatch' into 'vtools_2'. I went into vtools_2, and found the similar problems
as hanbot.
mod6: So there are a few things that I probably should ask about,
as it wasn't wholly clear to me about the pressing side of things. Since there are multiple roots, and multiple leaves, there are two different press paths. Now, maybe I'm not supposed to have all of these in there?? But it looked to me from the thread at phf's site, that I needed to have them all.
phf: "Making a function an inline function suggests that calls to the function be
as fast
as possible. The extent to which such suggestions are effective is implementation-defined."
phf: i've avoided any particular scheme, because it might introduce equivalence that doesn't exist. sha512
as an "alternative" vs. sha512
as aggressively deprecated.
phf: right now keccak/sha512 vpatches are not differentiated in any way, so having both of them in the same workflow might result in confusion (in fact it did when i was testing things at some point). it might be worthwhile to introduce some kind of hash tagging scheme, eg keccak:<hash> vs sha512:<hash> and keep <hash> without prefix
as sha512 for legacy reasons.
mircea_popescu: i suspect that however you turn it, something LIKE rss we will have to have, and that like is so close
as to not make the killing worth the bullets.
phf:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-26#1789697 << not
as hot
as palm springs (which is full blown summer at this point), but basically spring. it was raining last week, but right now it's a shirt weather. if you're close to the ocean, then it's blowing cold wind. what i'm trying to say is that the weather is excellent, and i'm loathing going back to the swamps.
☝︎ BingoBoingo: And when the US was having its civil war Brasil, Argentina, and Uruguay went into Paraguay and fucked their shit up
as a bonding experience.
mircea_popescu: data is backup-ed.
as to when back online... well... talk to these people.
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-02-14 14:18 mircea_popescu: MEANWHILE, however, they have 100% unaccounted for the time externality. so basically it's a contest consisting of a guy without legs going about finding fault with people's fingers. because he's decided "legs don't count", and so
as he has much better hands than the rest of those losers he should be captain of the football team.