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mircea_popescu: what the fuck is wrong with people.
mircea_popescu: i can;t fucking believe jwz and daveg are seriously discussing doubleclicking wiuth the spacebar
asciilifeform: https://int10h.org/oldschool-pc-fonts/fontlist << turned up this. prolly moar than anybody cares to know re subj.
asciilifeform: nuffin to do with borland per se tho, it's the standard vga 80x25 font
mircea_popescu: come to think of it the gold on blue worked well too
asciilifeform: i prefer the classic vga fat chars also.
mircea_popescu: meh, too thin and sans. ☟︎
asciilifeform: but again cannot be made to look proper on arbitrary display.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-30 23:08 asciilifeform: incidentally 'scalable font' technology was imho a failure:
a111: Logged on 2016-11-30 23:06 asciilifeform: of all the plagues discussed in this thread, i'd say fonts are the mildest, it is at this very minute quite trivial to operate a machine with 2-3 fonts installed , with ~0 surgery
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-30#1575064 << thread. seealso. ☝︎
asciilifeform: if anybody's ever pulled it off, i'd like to hear about it.
asciilifeform: ( tried many times to manually rasterize it to fit my display, result was always shit , perhaps my hands grow from arse, or perhaps not actually possible )
asciilifeform: i could prolly spend rest of life fighting with the font config and still not get anything as comfortable as dos font.
mircea_popescu: there's a screencap of my yahoo messenger config in this vein floating about somewhere even
mircea_popescu: i generally set up everything to more or less correct proportions, at terrible cost
asciilifeform: i fiddled with this nonsense for ages and gave up.
mircea_popescu: in fact, i'm generally unhappy with the thin fonts everywhere. terms and borland back in the day had touched greatness wrt glyph thickness
asciilifeform: mine too, given that it lived in 80x25 and used the spiffy nonscalable vga font
mircea_popescu: my borland was thicker font
asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/color-emacs.jpg << photo, for the curious
asciilifeform: brother said sumthinglike 'here's the emacs and here's the taiwan emacs'
asciilifeform: i asked 'what is this, why there are 2 emacses on this box'
asciilifeform: xemacs was actually the first systemdism i ever ran into head on
asciilifeform: i even have colour in it ( purely for personal enjoyment , repainted to resemble ye olde borland turbo )
asciilifeform: the trad emacs worxfine under x11 , since asciilifeform was a student, and prolly before
asciilifeform: buncha derps in 1990s ran off to mikehearn emacs, back in the day. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: the original discussion cca 1993 was centered around this\
asciilifeform: i thought there was a thread re subj.
asciilifeform: it's a bitcoincash of trad emacs.
asciilifeform: xemacs has 0 to do with the emacs e.g. asciilifeform today runs under x11.
mircea_popescu: what does he imagine that he gains brownie points with someone somewhere for "cooperate" ? ffs.
mircea_popescu: basically, a principled "emacs does not want or need window-decorations gtfo" out of rms would have been a lot better than his inept dithering
asciilifeform: i think i have the book still, propping up some piece of furniture
asciilifeform tried to use it eons ago, barfed mightily
mircea_popescu: i gather it to be the x toolkit thingee ?
mircea_popescu: this "emacs / xemacs reconciliation" is a tiresome painful fucking read. why the fuck would anyone consider merging xt in emacs ?! what is wrong with these people.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: do you remember the article where you said something like "or the entrepreneurs will win and then there will be a decade of hedge funds making a killing on the opaque altcorn market before we kill them all slowly"?
mircea_popescu: hard to fix anything by copy-pasting ancient windows ware.
ben_vulpes: it's what, 2018, and the people pushing altcoins are still struggling with arithmetic.
ben_vulpes: shoulda been the simplest possible transaction in the world, one output summing to the value of all wallet inputs less explicityly set miner fee.
ben_vulpes: unrelated to anything, i recently had the most amusing experience with a "bitcoin cash" wallet where it *insisted* on creating a zero-satoshi output.
asciilifeform: right after we find out how many, after all, angels fit on the pin.
mircea_popescu: distinction without a difference ; do children believe in nightmares or merely pretend to, or merely the misfunctioning of their undeveloped brain conflates two things ?
asciilifeform: it's a mirage , like the other one touched on today, the concrete-thefuture
asciilifeform still not certain that anybody actually believes in 'thepeople' , rather than pretending to
mircea_popescu: anyway, more generally, the idea that "the people" are some sort of thing, and to be catered to, IS the fungus.
shinohai: Most of the dumb Indian hispanics from Central America around here go to evangelical churches, Mexis the majority Catholic here.
mircea_popescu: sometime between the two
asciilifeform: re orclang , that's when it fell down neh.
asciilifeform: asciilifeform lives in a 'spanish' part of town , and was quite surprised to learn that most of the folx on his street go yes to church but no not to catholic church
mircea_popescu: the catholocism-in-orclang IS the fungus to begin with.
asciilifeform: sooo it's true, the fungus is eating ye olde catholistans ?
asciilifeform: i thought that was an empty token tho
mircea_popescu: i dunno. maybe. they do host "revivals" as a rthing
trinque: that's what the nightly sorries are about
asciilifeform: but do they ?
asciilifeform: trinque: afaik that's generally a 1shot thing, neh
mircea_popescu: hence all the "revolution" bs. o really, revolution in programming ?
trinque: the "born again in cheesus christ" thing points right to it
asciilifeform: the new beer has to be substantially old.
asciilifeform: not convinced of this. zek is also very much creature of habit
mircea_popescu: indeed the zek paradise is very much that "loose shoes and warm place to shit in" historical african's paradise : if they could pick up a new woman every night and she'd be gone after cooking lunch every day ; if they had to drive to a new place to start work every monday ; if there was always a new beer in the cafeteria and a new show on tv with a new identical blondy lead... scl
a111: Logged on 2016-08-04 19:59 mircea_popescu: but it's certainly quite deep. the vermin doesn't merely aim to a comfortable existence, but more importantly to a memory-less situation.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the fundamental problem is that only the elite have any use for history ; the plebs generally want a "start over tomorrow" world.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the principal problem is that he's not very good at arguing ; neither from a helping the preopinent nor from a produce useful record perspective. these are the two principal goals of conversation, i can scarcely imagine a third.
asciilifeform: upstack : iirc nelson wanted a perma-storage-net . in 1970 . to this day we dun have it, because -- apparently -- too expensive ? or how else to explain that folx still whine from having to store 1(decimal-)MB per 10min
asciilifeform: this was more or less always part of the tragedy of the d00d
asciilifeform: and yes naggum is buried in cement partly on account of the shattering of bridge that he himself had a hand in building
mircea_popescu: wasn't he working on exactly this not happening by his own account ?
asciilifeform: me neither. archaeology is a science of the sad and destroyed.
mircea_popescu: minor lulz at the perishable nature of the hyper-tard-transfer-protocol ended up a major topic. i just snickered en passant!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i dun think it was vandalized yet when naggum was alive and pointing to it
mircea_popescu: i did a bunch of that too, discovered that out of 10k websites, ~0 remain
asciilifeform: ( oddly enuff some of the dead people, have working www, and the live people -- not , go figure )
asciilifeform: earlier this (?) yr, possibly it was from prod from mircea_popescu , asciilifeform removed a buncha folx from blogroll pg ... for being dead
mircea_popescu: note that it's not me saying that ; for that matter i dun much link the vandalized mircea_popescu wikipedia page or any other such nonsense.
asciilifeform looks at the corpse of bitbet, with some suprise finds that it does not ~yet~ contain one of these
a111: Logged on 2018-01-07 22:18 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the whole lulz here is that the link the man himself indicates fails to deliver./
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-07#1766691 << it's not wholly unlike the old mpex.xyz dnsolade that today points to 'buy cardanocoin NAO!' etc ☝︎
asciilifeform: who even was that
mircea_popescu: !!rate RagnarDanneskjol -1 timewaster.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-15 16:55 mircea_popescu: alright. that concludes this first phase, which you've survived. im guessing a decision will fall in about two weeks, i'll notify you by name here in either case. you can see it by looking for http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=from%3Amircea+%22robbinhood%22
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-15#1751998 << to followup on this, the decision is to negrate RagnarDanneskjol for utterly wasting my time with his nonsense. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: worse implemented than SGML itself" << man spends six years trying to do useful work in non-#trilema world, discovers at the end of it all that no, his toaster can not be used to toast his own breakfast, thanks for playing, do come again.
mircea_popescu: "What can I say? I wasted 6 years of my life on SGML and related technologies only to find that when I wanted to translate my experience and knowledge and significant grasp of this technology into a book that would teach what I had found to others, I had to look real hard at all the braindamaged things that I had been willing to sweep under the carpet and found, to my horror, that SGML, once understood, could not possibly be
mircea_popescu: and holy shit the broken, innumerable ways to protect character from parsing...
mircea_popescu: i know why this is, obviously, but the important point is that this is a miserable, second hand knowledge, of ENTIRELY the same substrance as shilbert's.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the whole lulz here is that the link the man himself indicates fails to deliver./ ☟︎
asciilifeform: these will have to suffice for nao, i'ma bbl
asciilifeform: ( http://www.oasis-open.org today points to xml.coverpages... )
asciilifeform: i suspect that the search at one time worked.
asciilifeform: http://xml.coverpages.org/rcdataCTS1.html << there's a naggum for mircea_popescu .
asciilifeform: written by either shilbert or similar ( i fughet who ) , so lotta 'we pushed the sun uphill' 'history' mostly
mircea_popescu: but note that i don't give anyone the address to said bookshop if they seem confused as to who they're talking to.
asciilifeform: y'know , it so happens that asciilifeform was bored the other night, and ended up walking into the #1 pantsuit-themed b00kshop in the city , and saw a , whaddayaknow, a 'history of bitcoin' , and guess who mentioned in it 0 times...
mircea_popescu: (this, for the record, was a 60yo at the time stanford guy. "You clearly are clueless and are not at all ashamed to demonstrate it." wrong putdown, seriously now.)
mircea_popescu: from naggum's own self-characterization, he was a not-particularily-wanted epicycle in the whole sgml thing. am i missing something ?
mircea_popescu: ahaha this is epic. josling : " Searching the sgml bib for your name produces 0 hits..." ; naggum : "Why make such a fool of yourself annoying people on purpose? What is /wrong/ with you? http://www.oasis-open.org/cover/biblio.html" ; we dutifully go check and indeed, grep of that page returns 0 naggums.
mircea_popescu: anyway, but as to the matter at hand, they had a falling out over holocaust social game proper rules!!1