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mircea_popescu: the lulz are endless, "wolff is a well known hack of 0 credibility, but his current crop of nonsense confirms '''what we already know''' so tjhere is that". ah, such lulz.
phf: my read on the situation is that it's a bunch of lisp machiners taking emacs and trying to turn it into a lisp machine, and rms having a ptsd reaction to it
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Just because there's far less of them here doesn't mean they have value
ben_vulpes: good to see that some things never change, like BingoBoingo's taste in news
a111: Logged on 2018-01-08 00:55 asciilifeform: buncha derps in 1990s ran off to mikehearn emacs, back in the day.
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-08#1766790 << xemacs was joint work by sun and lucid, it's hard to say who's the durps here, since it was a bunch of professionals with lisp machine background trying to plug particularly nasty holes in emacs architecture (back before there even was an architecture) ☝︎
mircea_popescu: these fucktards are god's personal gift to comedy goldmines everywhere. just fields upon endless fields of permalactating lulzcows.
mircea_popescu: deep principled inspection! does it say "non pantsuit shouldn't be in position of power" ? FREEDOM OF SPEECH!!11 does it say non pantsuit things ? UNFORTUNATE FREE SPEECH FUNDAMENTALISM!!!!
BingoBoingo: Then they return to censorhabit
BingoBoingo: Well, until tomorrow
mircea_popescu: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/08/books/review/trump-michael-wolff.html << in other lulz, the new york times now free speech fundamentalists. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: or, possibly, the $100 tomahawk inventory burning resulting in ~0 roi of any kind. or or or.
shinohai: They have to give themselves fancy titles since they can't be a part of The Most Chauvinist Serene Order Of The Holes Gloriouses
mircea_popescu: either that or the "princeling is made of polenta".
mircea_popescu: either that or the "dumb as a brick" comment.
trinque: as to that, americans love making up titles.
trinque: I'd say Trump and Breitbart owners wanted Bannon out after losing Alabama.
mircea_popescu: also what's the diff between executive chairman (ie, member of the board doing the ceo job) and ceo ?
mircea_popescu: btw, in pantsuit distillate terminology is "legacy" as to the future or as to the past ?
knubie: make Trump great again...
trinque: maybe trump called somebody.
mircea_popescu: why is this in "big government" ?>
knubie: diana_coman: thanks
asciilifeform: more proximately, kochian ('primeinc') gen will ~never give you the 2nd half of a twinprime pair
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform besides the fundamental (you gotta power your guess engine with something, guess whart you're powering it with) ?
asciilifeform: all kindsa weird. ( and not so hard to think of some reasons as to why. )
diana_coman: knubie, a game by s.mg; see trilema.com s.mg category; logs of #eulora; http://www.dianacoman.com/category/eulora/ ; http://www.eulorum.org/Eulora
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 2 frenchies, they actually bothered to do a bit of experiment. and found that the 'primeinc' distrib loox nothing like the natural one.
asciilifeform: found) only consumes roughly as many random bits as the size of the output primes, but we can show that its output distribution, even if it can be shown to have high entropy if the prime r-tuple conjecture holds, is also provably quite far from uniform... It is likely that most algorithms that proceed deterministically beyond an initial random choice, including those of Joye, Paillier and Vaudenay... ...or Maurer... exhibit similar d
asciilifeform: '...To the authors’ knowledge, the only known prime generation algorithm for which the statistical distance to the uniform distribution can be bounded is the trivial one: pick a random (odd) integer in the desired interval, return it if it is prime, and try again otherwise. The output distribution of this algorithm is exactly uniform... ...By contrast, the PRIMEINC algorithm... pick a random number and increase it until a prime is
diana_coman: knubie, play eulora, might do something either way to that heartburn at least
knubie: add Ricki Lake to the mix..
mircea_popescu: she could go on the apprentice, he could go on the "obnoxious mammie wants to pretend she reads" show...
knubie: who would you consider the favorite
knubie: haha, would be fun to watch, must admit..
mircea_popescu: other than obvious/glaring/cosmetic issues, this isn't even such a terrible idea ; though the properties of the conventional padding scheme are something you'd regret losing.
mircea_popescu: so basically, the summary would be, that fellow took symmetric cyphering, sawed it open, used half of the parts for an ad-hoc rsa padding scheme, and implemented the whole kaboodle in python./
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well, yes, that's what i'm, saying, kinda interesting to see if this may actually work as that.
mircea_popescu: shinohai ty
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: we dun have a bounded crapola-to-prime converter. was sorta the orig thread the mauerer thing was a continuation of.
shinohai: mircea_popescu: I regge'd and messaged him, though his profile shows: Last Activity Mar 4 2017, 10:53 AM
asciilifeform: well yes, that's another op.
asciilifeform: fills fz on top of stack up from fg.
mircea_popescu: yes but that's not prime see
asciilifeform: ( not hard to guess what it does )
phf: shinohai: hah, it's not on her in this case, in fact she's relishing the opportunity. it's just not in my nature
mircea_popescu: nuffinwrongwith that.
mircea_popescu would like at least to have to play with.
asciilifeform: i'm not satisfied that it's good for anyffin
mircea_popescu: "oh, you mean the nut with the fillerchar???" works, if one's inclined/
mircea_popescu: pantsuit paradise over here, because really nothing is easier than to brand such efforts. "dude is evidently a cook, look at $example".
a111: Logged on 2015-07-05 23:53 asciilifeform: or that other thread, which i can't seem to find, where we spoke of how 'maths wot is not essential for being published, but for even having publishable ideas instead of burning your life on fibonacci sequences or some other solved/irrelevant dead end'
mircea_popescu: this, incidentally, is why systematic education became a thing.
mircea_popescu: "# fillerchar: A chosen special filler character to be used. This character is assumed to have no occurrence in the given plaintextstring and is not alphabetical." << holyshit wat. ☟︎
trinque: ah. knubie the command takes effect when someone does !!v
knubie: trinque: Ahh, worked for me now, had a couple min delay on the otp
mircea_popescu: anyway, friendly reminder : many people run this chan as a main/major part of their tty arrangement, read all the lines, you do NOT wish to advertise yourself as an annoyance.
shinohai: vpn doesn't have ability to run znc obviously
asciilifeform: did somebody turn over some old firewood or wat.
asciilifeform: that last appeared to nod to ninjashotgun.
mircea_popescu: what's the lul ?
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: !~later tell aegis wouldja stop with the join/part spam
asciilifeform used thermal tape for meatspace otps for some yrs
asciilifeform: thermal tape dun burn quite as well as ordinary paper ( heat treated ) but it burns ok in a propane or butane flame, or with other accelerant
mircea_popescu: anyway. secure comms were never this cheap.
mircea_popescu: "just burn the roll as you use it"
asciilifeform: hence the mention of the item.
asciilifeform: make split-cable to feed 2 seikos
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ftr this is ~the best otp possible.
asciilifeform: aha they're sold in 60metre roll
asciilifeform: cute little thing. even has battery compartment ( for if mains give out , to finish birthing the buffer... )
mircea_popescu: you can buy them in multi-lm lengths np
mircea_popescu has some prodigal rolls of 110 mm thermotape...
asciilifeform: eats 110mm tape.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they're sold by the pallet-full at surpluseries, too.
shinohai: http://archive.is/SUV5O <<< I know it is Kruds on Security, but nonetheless lulzy "Snyder discovered that Overstock’s site just as happily accepted bitcoin cash as payment,....." to any old regular Bitcoin address
asciilifeform: theoretically this beast will print straight from a (downclocked, change 1ln in fg.v) FUCKGOATS ~sans computer~
asciilifeform: in other oldies, seiko's 'DPU414' thermal printer, can be had for <fiddybux, and not only prints 80cols x infinity (continuous tape) but knows how to eat rs232 and... print hexdump (up to 19200 baud) ☟︎☟︎
shinohai: Apply more beatings phf, then she will cater through sickness AND health.
asciilifeform: hey i dun kill them butterflies, they die by themselves
asciilifeform: i collect these.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's painful, jesus, guy has the right idea gets fucked anyway.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-04 14:53 asciilifeform: 'hardware isn't easy to build therefore couldn't possibly be necessary, the gods would not have made this level so hard, for me, the hero' or similar.
mircea_popescu: motherfuckers! how about we just blame the liberals and go to sleep instead!
mircea_popescu: dude, this is painful to read. so he correctly explains the problem with trusting the massive "pki" imperial faux-crypto, "too large to practically read, proven insecure, etc". then ? "# Both communication partners have to download the same version 3x of Python from http://www.python.org."
phf: well, now that the fever dropped from halucinatory 39 to a pleasant 37.5, i get to experience an mp lifestyle: i just lay in bed and all my whims are catered to :)
mircea_popescu: common truths
mircea_popescu: "the average gender of the human race is computer"
asciilifeform: like the wireless ukrs
asciilifeform: so ancient that nothing remains lol
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform korea is an ancienter civ than russian! and this is kievan not muscovy!
asciilifeform: the koreans sum to ~0, whocares
mircea_popescu: it's worse everywhere ; the koreans with their windows banking, /me personally observed mural dedicated to ghandi, jobs and other "great demigod-geniuses of mankind"
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-09#1767676 << i've been out of commisssion since friday, and will be for another couple of days. got brought down hard with a flu, that hasn't happened to me in a while ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's even worse in the ru world
mircea_popescu: fucking gates should be hanged by his guts ; this pestilence is his legacy upon the third world. no amount of "curing afflictions that beset the subhuman horde" can possibly compensate for having clipped the top.
mircea_popescu: "# We use c=0.005 which has been experimentally found to be optimal in processing time for common PC under MS Windows and values of k of practical interest. A different c value may be desirable for use in different computing environments." << check it out asciilifeform ! IT IS SATOSHI ALL OVER AGAIN. why. WHY!!! ☟︎☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: o hey there.
mircea_popescu: "# Code lines of documents with the same version number are always identical. There may be interim modifications of comment lines. The most recent document of PROVABLEPRIME can be obtained from: http://s13.zetaboards.com/Crypto/topic/7234475/1/" << the barbarity.