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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ftr i think we're in the midst of a http://oglaf.com/humans for past wk or so
a111: Logged on 2018-01-10 16:54 mircea_popescu: an ideal pretending to be a real. and convincingly, it'd seem.
mircea_popescu: lol still with this ?
Covale: did that every now than. but I also read this earlier: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/why-bitcoin-is-worth-exactly-0-and-blockchain-might-be-very-valuable-2018-01-09?link=sfmw_fb
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform why not ? for one thing can immediately trade it for honda ; for the other thing can just let sit in deedbot.
asciilifeform: Covale: ever consider reading the logs ?
a111: Logged on 2018-01-04 17:59 mircea_popescu: here it goes : "did you know, women, that before pantsuited hilarity clinton was invented, you had problems XYZ ? and that afterwards, these were resolved ?" "nope" "we'll... it's all recorded for all enternity-till-year-end on jezbel" "Where is this wonder ?" "oh, DO WE REALLY STILL HAVE TO ?!?! IN 2018 ?!?! WE'VE ALL MOVED PAST THAT!!!"
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-15#1656097 << recall that ? also "free for the taking", not taken because hurr, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-04#1764080 ☝︎☝︎
Covale: a stranger, pretty much. used to get on here every now and then years ago
trinque went and squatted efnet #trilema, but they don't have any notion of chanserv, can't register.
asciilifeform: i gotta point out that the cost-of-ownership for even a centibitcoin , is not 0 either
mircea_popescu: yes but narrower usercase for FG than for dough.
mircea_popescu: it's not a matter of the first, it's a matter of the 100thst.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform except the whole thing's quite plainly and publicly documented.
mircea_popescu: i think still is, but this particular network is more like technocuck than pure irc.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-10 17:53 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the "social policy" argument discusses "people" as a statistical construct ; and it is entirely sunk by the pay-for-tits item, exactly like how darwinism ends creationism or qm ends nm.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-10#1768556 << there was some old essay , from early days of linux , re 'there once was the command line' or sumthinglikethat, that had a line 'you can give away free jagdtigers , and nobody will believe, no one will come for them, toogoodtobetrue' ☝︎
knubie: back in the day, IRC was flooded with females..
shinohai: I met one of the girls and all her hot friends! Though only one came back to participate iirc
mircea_popescu: how's that work ?
shinohai: I'm still convinced there is some Romanian magic in that article
mircea_popescu: but then again if one needs such ellaborate proofs that anxious behaviour is improductive...
mircea_popescu: yeah, some great chicks in there ; kinda goes to show that the http://trilema.com/2018/lay-the-favorite/ or http://trilema.com/2018/lucy/ style retards never win out.
knubie: cannot hide the joy
knubie: the thumbs up & wicked smile
knubie: Titties tag: 6bb9 1297 is the funniest shit ever..
mircea_popescu: "maybe taleb has been on a monster bender since 2014, hasn't yet read it". etc.
mircea_popescu: but as far as single individual is concerned, well, they can forego profits for all sorta reasons.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the "social policy" argument discusses "people" as a statistical construct ; and it is entirely sunk by the pay-for-tits item, exactly like how darwinism ends creationism or qm ends nm. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: yes but the non-statistical argument much weaker.
asciilifeform: hey iirc we even have folx who were offered ~whole~ coin, and continue to not show ( taleb ? )
knubie: If it was back to late 90's & early 00's that list would be huge...
shinohai: Sooner is better than later, as mp says .... the reward used to be 10 whole bitcents
mircea_popescu: definitive cap on any possible "social security" discussion ever ; and, obviously, none of the proponents feel any sort of impetuus to address the item that ended their fanfic.
knubie: mircea_popescu: totally agree with you on that one
knubie: yeah, i noticed.. lol funny shit.. but i swear one of them looks so familiar
mircea_popescu: knubie think about it this way : the only reason 3-4bn women live in poverty today is that they are TOO FUCKING DUMB to pick free dough off the ground.
shinohai: For lulz and only for the luz knubie
knubie: lmao @ tits link
mircea_popescu: but, i guess all the 36yo suicides gotta come from SOMEWHERE.
shinohai: Guess they don't like opportunities!
shinohai: "Hello Caroline, since this useless token will fail just like the DAO and leave you unemployed, I was wondering if I might interest you in: http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/ ? "
shinohai: ^ London ip space tho
a111: Logged on 2018-01-09 22:06 mircea_popescu: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/08/books/review/trump-michael-wolff.html << in other lulz, the new york times now free speech fundamentalists.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-09 17:03 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-09#1767519 <<< o look, when the saudis "bought" that piece of shit it ... wasn't "corruption" and the saudi state very much does not need to take measure to eliminate the "corruption" of giving usg money. it's only when non-usg gets dough that the idiot neets need to stand up and herpderp on social media about "corruption" amirite ?
shinohai: Looking at site js, it has canned reply that comes up like most of these sites.
mircea_popescu: why not the tits thing ?
shinohai: They have some chic in a chatbox on their website supposedly, imma link her to: http://trilema.com/2016/to-the-dao-and-the-ethereum-community-fuck-you/
mircea_popescu: on the basis of google's latest fakenews engine ?
shinohai: But to me, the best of the day comes from the Ethtards: "RocketICO is the world’s first decentralized accelerator based on the DAO concept, where startups interact with experts and investors"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform scotland was going to be polonial cower!
mircea_popescu: hey, "modern democracy" man imagines self some kind of 17th century french noble, has all the problems of same and none of the resources.
asciilifeform: there may have been other folx who shot themselves in the foot on similar scale, but i can't think of who other than the poles
mircea_popescu: but yes, that's how "pan" got to mean "sucker"
mircea_popescu: but i dun think poland specifically.
asciilifeform: where they ended up with ~20% of population having 'titles of nobility' with 0 real fief to go with ~any of it
asciilifeform: hey did mircea_popescu ever write a piece about 'collegism' and the prev ver of very similar scam in 18th c. poland ?
asciilifeform: usually self-limiting infection, tho, when the villagers go out to sell these 'cheaps' dearer, they run into folx who can tell the diff
mircea_popescu: an ideal pretending to be a real. and convincingly, it'd seem. ☟︎
asciilifeform: it could be, if the 'sable hat' is sufficiently convincing, that victim goes and gets whole village to line up and buy 'cheap sables'
asciilifeform: in that it is a resident infection in chump's head. rather than a 'nyahaha, i sold you a cutting board painted as ipad, and i'ma run faster than you can catch'
mircea_popescu: in that it sells ideals not reals ?
asciilifeform: does not mean that they are all equivalent.
asciilifeform: to round off the crackpottery, 'superlinear' is when the chumps deposit their dough, but afterwards ~go home to get more~, to bring friends, etc. ☟︎
asciilifeform: i.e. every chump gets scammed for whatever pocket change he was going to spend on a flashlight that day
mircea_popescu: since the chip you discuss could be made out of extant bitcoin miner + yubikey arrangement, they must both be just as linear
asciilifeform: not quite. ( i thought about discussion the difference in the orig chumpatron article, but cut it ) : there are , to borrow from algorithmics, 'linear' and 'superlinear' chumpatrons
asciilifeform: by that token , asciilifeform's 'it crashed' flashlight was same thing, lol
asciilifeform: i thought that was a 'store yer password in this-here magic thumbdrive' thing.
mircea_popescu: admitting anyone still thinks it's a thing
asciilifeform: considering that microscopy costs ~= toyota, a circus like that could easily carry on, 'under the radar', for several years.
asciilifeform: picture a chumpatron where 'you gotta have THIS here magic chip to mine...'
asciilifeform: yea but that ain't quite it
asciilifeform: didn't somebody do a hardware shitcoin? i.e. 'you must buy THIS box...'? or did i dream it.
mircea_popescu: (the original cause for adlai friend's blacklisting in the bitcoin community, that scam)
mircea_popescu: that and the "bcrypt best crypt on the market" dorks.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-09 01:02 mircea_popescu: i'm vaguely curious how useful this'd be, "article X includes 003/101/209/309/402/801/908 !"
a111: Logged on 2018-01-10 01:23 mircea_popescu: a very strong ideal property of this is given in http://trilema.com/2014/the-romanian-language-for-other-people/#selection-245.1-238.5 ; which is a large part of the problem and also serves as illustration -- who the fuck knew that random whore story from 2014 is actually an expose on generative grammar.
hanbot: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-10#1768160 << haha well this answers http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-09#1767425 then. 0 useful. ☝︎☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: sadly pot is actually better than pow in all respects.
asciilifeform: hey recall mircea_popescu's 'proof of tooth' coin.
mircea_popescu: also in next generation fuck world there's no need for strip clubs, autist bois get it via tube in their garage
asciilifeform: 'In next-generation crypto world there is no more need to use overpriced mining hardware, or take a loan to pay your electricity bill. There is much more efficient and eco friendly way to get FREE coins called STAKING. So you still helping the system verifying transactions and getting your free coins, while using just your personal laptop/ipad or a PC !'
a111: Logged on 2018-01-09 20:13 mircea_popescu: "# We use c=0.005 which has been experimentally found to be optimal in processing time for common PC under MS Windows and values of k of practical interest. A different c value may be desirable for use in different computing environments." << check it out asciilifeform ! IT IS SATOSHI ALL OVER AGAIN. why. WHY!!!
mircea_popescu: recall, his pow was flawed so he had this scheme whereby you'd "Deposit" your coins and basically get to write the blockchain for it.
shinohai: I wasn't here for those lulz was still in heathendom
asciilifeform: ( oughta be in the logs somewhere )
asciilifeform: oh hah is that what it was.
mircea_popescu: just as "will take over bitcoin" as mit's later identical insanities.
shinohai: Actually here is one that does away with that shit and goes straight for PoS: http://www.bitcoinlite.us/
mircea_popescu: anyone recall those ancient lulz ? ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-10 16:26 shinohai: "Bitcoin Interest ("BCI") is a frictionless global payment system focusing on three key areas Technology, Community, and Savings. Our payment system has a new integrated savings technology that allows our users to park their coins and earn interest. "
asciilifeform: ( which, sadly enuff, is not so distant from classical bitcoin's 'noders node at own expense so that miners get payola'... )
asciilifeform: aha, miners mine so that derps get phree payola
asciilifeform: so sorta like the old proof-of-stake nonsense but with 'new' flavour, somehow
asciilifeform: '...When you decide to park your BCI coins you agree to not move your coins until the current round has ended. If you choose to move your BCI coins before the round has ended, you will not receive an interest payment...'
asciilifeform: '...If I was to park 100 BCI coins for the entire duration of the round, and there were a total of 1000 BCI coins parked, then I would receive 10% of the interest pool...'
asciilifeform: coins as our block height increases. This setup will ensure that interest payments are always available for those that choose to participate in parking their BCI coins.'
asciilifeform: 'Every Bitcoin Interest ("BCI") block has two rewards; 12.5 BCI coins are generated for the miners for their participation in solving the block, and an additional 1.08 BCI coin reward is generated and sent to the interest pool to facilitate interest payments. This is achieved through what we call, "Enhanced Proof of Work" using the Equihash algorithm. The interest pool reward will start at 1.08 BCI coins and will decrease to 0.54 BCI
shinohai: "Bitcoin Interest ("BCI") is a frictionless global payment system focusing on three key areas Technology, Community, and Savings. Our payment system has a new integrated savings technology that allows our users to park their coins and earn interest. " ☟︎