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mircea_popescu: meanwhile in "the only truly random element in anyone's life is the order in which they experience things", http://78.media.tumblr.com/f09fc86dd79e041224633ac76ff69c76/tumblr_odtsq9ndCF1u5m4kqo1_400.gif
asciilifeform: http://thetarpit.org/archive.html << pretty great stuff. he even reviews what happens to be some of asciilifeform's favourite msdos-era gamez. ☟︎
trinque: asciilifeform: awaiting that part of the quote, will let all know
trinque: anyhow, just trying to help haggle. who doesn't like to squeeze the vendors
asciilifeform: trinque: what did the pipe cost, then
a111: Logged on 2018-01-19 15:50 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-19#1773051 << where did i say 'bw is free' or that i compare with spam vps ? trinque posted a heathendom figure of 700 ( trinque can answer when he wakes up , for what bw, i presume 100/100 ) for comparison.
trinque: but you're welcome to say "trinque is interested in renting rackspace through me. why was he given a different quote?"
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-19#1773054 << let you know as soon as they come back with that part. ☝︎
asciilifeform: i'ma link to this item.
asciilifeform: hey spyked ! i like your summary of the calc ops. ☟︎
asciilifeform: he's been following ffa, doing the homeworkz
a111: 2017-11-22 <spyked> http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/yVbXl/?raw=true <-- most of it is config.sub and config.guess. two lines at the end may fix shinohai's troubles. anyway, I'ma post the whole thing (w3m+gc+js+whatever else) once I manage to do a static build.
asciilifeform: ^ possibly oughta be included in rss ? mircea_popescu , trinque ?
BingoBoingo: Will do, and I will check to see if these numbers are 22% VAT inclusive or if I missed that again.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo send me the dc wire details btw.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo dun worry about it ; sign the contract, explain about the cash, all is well. what gear did you have physically present i forget ?
BingoBoingo: I have seen the hall, the rack, the UPS, etc. Will meet with them and make sure nothing has been overlooked.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo yeah, a) go sign contract ; b) did you actually get to see our rack yet ? if not now's the time to insist ; c) explain to them that money's coming in coming week one way or another, iirc they understand why ?
BingoBoingo: I will let the datacenter know we are moving forward with the whole rack 20/200 asymmetric.
asciilifeform: i thought BingoBoingo had no bank, can't eat wires..?
mircea_popescu: aite, anyone wanna do the above 3.5k wire and pocket the bitcoin implied by current lulzexchange ? before i give it to rando latino via bb's meatwot.
asciilifeform: 'One full rack: 900 USD/month plus $900 one time set up fee' from BingoBoingo's article.
asciilifeform: as i understood, merely the pipe into rack. rack itself costs also.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: his 700 is smaller, actually, than the last time i priced 100/100/1U in usa, was 1000+
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: That is the same provider. In the numbers they are sending me 700 is 1/2 rack and no connectivity.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so you're here managing trinque's quotes ?
asciilifeform: why do the orcs charge >3x moar ?
a111: Logged on 2018-01-19 06:37 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform dude... first off you're looking at symmetrical for some reason, nfi why, second off no bw is free, contrary to what "cheap vps" outfits might've advertised to you and thirdly didn't we do this a few times before already ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-19#1773051 << where did i say 'bw is free' or that i compare with spam vps ? trinque posted a heathendom figure of 700 ( trinque can answer when he wakes up , for what bw, i presume 100/100 ) for comparison. ☝︎☟︎
BingoBoingo: That's the draft plan
mircea_popescu: eh, it's unlikely they do it any other way. alright then, so the draft plan here is, get the rack, 900 + 900, and the 20/200 option to start with, for a total of $3223 payable i ncash which you can actually raise by going in the local market ?
BingoBoingo: "yes server can send 10 times more than recive." << Going to have to make sure they include this language in the contract.
shinohai: Gotta keep those private keys locked up
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in "slut at the beach" fun and games, https://68.media.tumblr.com/27bd311844b8bbcc384df97d3a64b086/tumblr_omswy5mJIU1uiwcaro1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: yeah, just make sure which way the 200 goes.
BingoBoingo: I am asking if it is a typo, awaiting response.
mircea_popescu: so either i'm misunderstanding some4thing or there's a typo in this post : 20/200 mbps (downlink/uplink) ie the server can RECEIVE 10 times as much as it can SEND ? this is backwards from practice.
mircea_popescu: that's going to be months.
BingoBoingo: The bank situation looks like it will continue to suck until a local id is in hand
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo well ok, and what came of the bank sweep ?
diana_coman: even had inner tube at pushchair wheels!
shinohai: Been a long time since I've been around motorbikes, but yes.
BingoBoingo: <shinohai> Heh, curious you mention that about tires, never thought of it until now mircea_popescu, but bicycle wheels are the only place you can still get an inner tube afaik. << bicycles, motorcycles, plenty more places.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: how many datacentres in uruguay ? what % have you spoken to ? << Others have international (i.e. US) presence
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo what's the trade situation there, can you get a pile of cash for btc locally ? << Looks like it. At the very worst a boat ride to sufficient liquidity.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform dude... first off you're looking at symmetrical for some reason, nfi why, second off no bw is free, contrary to what "cheap vps" outfits might've advertised to you and thirdly didn't we do this a few times before already ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: how many datacentres in uruguay ? what % have you spoken to ?
asciilifeform: tho i cannot immediately tell how it came out.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-17 04:55 asciilifeform: i can picture the backroom convo, 'hey how many zeros can we glue to the gringo's price'
asciilifeform: or hm, possibly had already this thread, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-17#1740045 ☝︎
asciilifeform: 'we think that saheeb has much money, let's weld on a coupla zeros'
asciilifeform: it is possible that BingoBoingo is being gouged, similar to what the accountants tried to do ?
asciilifeform: could emplace literally 10 boxes in heathendom for that bandwidth price alone. and with 100/100 (or greater) on each.
asciilifeform: come to think of it, maybe the sole connection to that cage ~is~ a sat ?!
asciilifeform: i dun recall ever seeing a price like this outside of satellite market.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo what's the trade situation there, can you get a pile of cash for btc locally ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-18#1772348 << well, i'd say ok let's take it, except for the issue where we can't actually pay them. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: hey, they paid me i dun recall how many mns exactly to fuck their mit boobs, what's another fraction.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-18 14:57 asciilifeform: 'The United States federal government has paid approximately half a million dollars to a private corporation to help various agencies conduct surveillance on the Bitcoin blockchain' << pretty lulzy, that's, e.g., 3 janitors, 2 clerks, 1 intern, for 1yr
mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWcs7zoR2F8 << moldavian-made lulz on same topic.
asciilifeform: not in the list : ro
mircea_popescu: lemme fish this thing out
asciilifeform: well it's a language thing.
asciilifeform: if one had to go from this book.
mircea_popescu: so how do they explain stephen, afaik he's like, object of cult there.
asciilifeform: picture this.
mircea_popescu: the insanity of using two different letters for the exact same item ... but anyway.
asciilifeform: surreal. gotta wonder from where the item even came.
mircea_popescu: thje logical step was to just get rid of it altogether.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-03 15:40 phf: the whole font changes meaning take two is coming from the japanese. they were actively promoting this idea back during early unicode standardization days, where there was a strong drive to include every idiosyncratic version of kanji in the standard, because "that's how my family writes it in our last name".
mircea_popescu: for a long time the country's name was written in the japanese style, http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-03#1513931 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform damn, tyou got it backwards. ~î~ is to turn into the previously never used â inside words. (previously, only usage of â was for România. but rather than JUST TAKE THE DAMNED THING OUT ALTOGETHER they ... contrived to "make use")
mircea_popescu: also did some stuff to be more greek...
asciilifeform: lol if even the english threw out their, e.g., thorn , to 'be moar latin'.
mircea_popescu: "so as tyo make it moar latin". as fucking if, and etcetera.
asciilifeform: that the 'â turns into î when beginning or end of word' was only Officially Proclaimed in... 1990
asciilifeform: btw is it tru re the î
asciilifeform: yea holyfuq i had nfi that the 8legged 'horses' on romars also tgdyk'd !11!
mircea_popescu: i had no idea this is how you say horse gallop in russian. it's same in romanian too!
asciilifeform: 'chukcha wrote a book. we open the book: pg 1: 'man got on a horse.' pg . N : 'man got off horse' pg . 2 .. N-1 : 'tgdyk, tgdyk, tdgyk...' ' ☟︎
mircea_popescu: nepenthe, you know, the one item that was ever in true demand.
mircea_popescu: onward hops the plastic horse, and there's a circle of dirt under its feet on the wooden square...
mircea_popescu: it's a very third worldy thing, to want to be the sad horse turning around the peg. so much so they actually sell this insanity here, as toys.
asciilifeform: but folx working with contradictory priors are doomed to oscillate. at least if they're serious.
mircea_popescu: every indian ever set out to, as far as i know.
asciilifeform: it is a thing that they end up . but nobody sets out to.
asciilifeform: i have yet to meet the man who ~wanted~ to be oscillator tho.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, one is good and the other not so good. no argument.
mircea_popescu: but yes, once they invested in the aproiori fixed point, they can only walk around the room.
asciilifeform: again , the diff is in the spectra.
mircea_popescu: or, for that matter, fg. it's how it fucking works, on, off, on...
a111: Logged on 2018-01-19 02:22 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, he's evidently not useful. but he's not a logic gate, either. he's certainly not human. the fundamental identification/classification of "i will deliver result X through randomly chosen path each time" is... rng. at least to my mind.
asciilifeform: briefly to return to http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-19#1772934 , what motl and most other similar are, is precisely this : the unwanted oscillator. ever see a street lamp that flickered, on, off, on , off ☝︎
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, recently /me introduced briefly phuctor to whitebeard, mentioned bernstein smooth integers speedup, got very confused headshake and an invitation to point to where did this wonder happen ?! in s. n. bernstein book. "not that one, a newer one, american" "oh."
mircea_popescu: whereas most serious math people of my generation are from topology and the rest of the doomed attempts to resurect the beauty of geometry.
mircea_popescu: can prolly tell by the very functional-analytic and numeric methods bent ; and by the set-theoretic underlying representations.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-17 22:29 asciilifeform: aha. mircea_popescu also at one time was a maths man.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-17#1772202 << i would not go as far, theoretical physics. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: possibly also i'm like... hey, i recall this idiocy from 2012, seriously rando just discovered bitcoin today, is retracing 2012 with all the ingenuity of virgin at the altar ? how fucking endearing, /sarcasm
mircea_popescu: i dun think we do.