mircea_popescu: well, watching the outside world is a little like watching middle class tweens "fighting" on the playground. lotta shoving, lotta posturing and "threatening" behaviour. lotta talk, jack shit to get excited over.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-22#1889170 << yeah, that resolution was actually in the "unexpected good news" category. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-22#1889150 << there's no way to have a rsa-aware client without the corresponding server, yes ? it's a whole migration, just, i was hoping she'd only have to do the server side, was the point of http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-05#1884608 comment. ☝︎☝︎

mircea_popescu: was very useful, up until registers went 32 bit. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-22#1889147 << this is actually surprisingly apt. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: spyked is there a way for one to list what rss he's subscribed with feedbot ? ☟︎

mircea_popescu: !1help

mircea_popescu: a toci = to wear down (generally through use), cutit tocit = dull knife

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform certified genuine cognate ; ro word for "we sharpen knives and scythes and whatnot" shop is "tocilarie"

mircea_popescu: quite possibru

mircea_popescu: well more power to you

mircea_popescu: come to think of it not a bad approach...

mircea_popescu: "alf knows how to say these 5 things he can't stand in all languages that exist or existed".

mircea_popescu: dude, your romanian's by now scary, what, you keep these words in a special museum of hate or something ?

mircea_popescu: yep

mircea_popescu: i suppose.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform remarkable how the corkscrew is a recurring object in any discussion of this gap.

mircea_popescu: a whole raft of "dad didn't much care for arthur blair snif sniff" is readily explained by the model "dad got smart with age, kiddo was born intelligent."

mircea_popescu: mn smart. You join up with Johnny Caspar, you bump Bernie Bernbaum. Up is down. Black is white. Well, I think you're half smart. I think you were straight with your frail, I think you were queer with Johnny Caspar... and I think you'd sooner join a ladies' league than gun a guy down. Then I hear from these two geniuses they never even saw this rub-out take place. "

mircea_popescu: in the end, "the smart don't like the intelligent" is the exact male equiv of ye female http://trilema.com/2016/the-pedoepiphany/ ; or in the immortal words of http://trilema.com/2014/millers-crossing/ " You are so goddamn smart. Except you ain't. I get you, smart guy. I know what you are. Straight as a corkscrew. Mr. Inside-Outski, like some goddamn Bolshevik picking up his orders from Yegg Central. You think you're so godda

mircea_popescu: kinda what sours the thinking man of chess : "dude, your metagame utterly ruins the fiction the game purports to render -- specifically because the word "gambit" exists in your language it CAN NOT be the case this is a story of war and civilisation"

mircea_popescu: right ?

mircea_popescu: a type not a trope of fiction.

mircea_popescu: in short, mathematical (and to a large degree scientific, viz physics etc) education in the warsaw pact place-and-time degenerated into a trope of fiction. which is why "science fiction" was so loved in those parts of the world as opposed to anywhere else.

mircea_popescu: anyway, but "learn fermat -- apply when last digit of exponent" list of ~fiction tropes~ is nothing more than that : teaching kids how to "know the tells" of the (again -- remarkably fucking inept) "he liked science" illiterate storyteller.

mircea_popescu weeps for whosoever is gonna try to summarize today's log sometime. by now the simple mechanics of log linking have created an actual programming language, by the time one's done unpacking the context and unwrapping the meaning, the sun will likely be down. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: but back to our topic : there STILL IS a marked difference between http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-18#1863581 intelligent an' smart. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: i suppose it's still disqualified, i didn't state it in romanian.

mircea_popescu: failing so remarkably spectacularly the only remarkable part is nobody remarked upon it until 2019 rolled around in teh republic.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform part of the lulz of ye olde physics olympiad in mp\s native lands and times was "identify the problem type". lotta ~fundamentally illiterate~ (hey, they liked "science", can't possibly think fiction, doh!!!) profs tryina come up with ~convincing~ "and then she said...".

mircea_popescu: which is precisely the scar tissue of usg-ification of sovok.

mircea_popescu: which is why cambridge tripos went exactly nowhere on a large wooden spoon : "mathematical athleticism" is not mathematical anymore than the counting horse is.

mircea_popescu: and the fascination of all the old "olympiad problems" in the books, fly-between-trains, what have you, is specifically this : "get people to come up with very COOL!!!! solutions"

mircea_popescu: the task itself is both banal and uninteresting, the solution lives forever in the annals of humanity in the proper sense of that term no "because it's short" but specifically because "it\s so evidently zero kelvin".

mircea_popescu: i can ~also~ very relaxedly put a temperature of 0 on "to find out the sum of integers up to a limit, write them twice, once going left, once going right, sum the units and divide by two".

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, but notice how "arithmetic" does not have a very great substance. the reason people like eg euler is very much in the vein of that http://trilema.com/2017/is-it-still-rape-if-i-write-science-on-my-penis-first/#selection-83.0-119.187 old "science == society game" model of science :

mircea_popescu: this is going rather at the other end of things.

mircea_popescu: none of this is to in any way dispute (or even refer to) the very practical, low-fruit-grasping, "lotta code out there is so fucking stupid, just washing hands halves it".

mircea_popescu: ie, it's pefect code for once.

mircea_popescu: i can relaxedly put a temperature of 0 on the coupling between the string "number is divisible by two if last digit is divisible by two" and the respective index in the problem stair.

mircea_popescu: ie, one that has resolved the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-28#1883605 problem very strictly : "for this language, there is no better code" ☝︎

mircea_popescu: in a sense, this is ~as much as we presently know~ of a ~perfect v tree".

mircea_popescu: lting "code" has varying lengths.

mircea_popescu: but imo, the "number is divisible by two if last digit is divisible by two ; number is divisible by three if sum of digits is divisible by three ; number is divisible by five if last digit is divisible by five ; number is..." series is an EXCEPTIONALLY great model for the problem of "write software". because it is an ~ordered~ list of ~programs~, by its very nature. ordered ~by an implicit order of the problems~. and the resu

mircea_popescu: but in the end, what's the rush even. trilema didn't croak yest, and so here we are, can focus on other things.

mircea_popescu: right.

mircea_popescu: so in truth we dunno, and as of yet we're not in a splendid position to guess yet, either.

mircea_popescu: nor of any god-made promise going "a www server you'd care to use can be made in less than x lines of y".

mircea_popescu: (and there's also no rule the domain-extensions of "simple arithmetic" they require would be deemed comprehensible by chtulhu)

mircea_popescu: there's no rule they're short enough you'd consider them fit in head.

mircea_popescu: there ~necessarily can exist such rules~ for ~any arbitrary prime~

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i mean in the traditional school of digit manipulation.

mircea_popescu: but knowing the rule for a number being divisible by 119 is comparatively less easy.

mircea_popescu: obviously it's ~extremely advantageous~ to know that "the number two quintillion quadrillion one is nevertheless divisible by 3".

mircea_popescu: HOWEVER, the ~complexity of their statement~ grows faster than the benefits.

mircea_popescu: consider the item i was discussing with the girls last nigyht over coffees : there ~are~ rules for divisibility of integers for ~any~ integer, not just 2 or 3 or 5 or 9.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-22#1889138 << there is no absolute guarantee the solution to a problem you come up with is going to be shorter than a number you like. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: ceterum autem censeo, there's no fucking difference between random "career" whore and random cam whore. they're the exact same identical physical item.

mircea_popescu: i do not know exactly why, but both in case of mysql and apache, the cocksuckers ( http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-21#1888849 slash http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-17#1887990 items from before, and may it never be forgotten what they EXACTLY ARE) got sent packing to "make their own" that nobody gave a shit about. ☝︎☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-22#1889134 << the discussion died (i have no doubt under exact same "gotta rsfm" pressure), but we were talking 2016ish about needing own protocol (meanwhile in practice eulora is trying udp and that may even prove sufficient, eg). but yes, tmsr router obviously premature. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: well if nothing else, we have to put something into eventual cuntoo downstream, along with db and so on.

mircea_popescu: (and i mean infinitely ~LESS~ complex, if it's not evident)

mircea_popescu: i suspect having people well experienced in such things with toy buttons first is the way to go.

mircea_popescu: i do not.

mircea_popescu: that was my preferred angle to approach this problem, and so far we're in 2019 working on mid-2017 tasks.

mircea_popescu: but i am discouraged by the result of the training exercise for this matter, where apparently in spite of attempts to standardize the infinitely more complex mp-wp, the result was similarly tower of bable.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ima think on this

mircea_popescu: item as pristine out of box has a dozen or so dimensions and subdimensions that hafta be fit into place, it's not ~really~ pret a porter (chiefly because one selling "all purpose cloth" can't sell it pre-cut)

mircea_popescu: and the bitch of it is, very widely configurable thing, and without proper configuration... well, it's ye olde http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-04#1820583 problem. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: i don't even remember ~when~ i last compiled apache.

mircea_popescu: fuck me.

mircea_popescu: http://logs.minigame.biz/2019-01-17.log.html#t11:21:38 << concretes.

mircea_popescu: yeah. specifically 4.x or w/e it was.

mircea_popescu: seems to be converging that way.

mircea_popescu: yes, well, if you look at it functionally, apache (however scraped of fungus) is the reason can even read trilema today.

mircea_popescu: so i suppose ~in that limited sense~ it can be said "same thing". but it is limited enough for the alternation of seats to be in the end not surprising but rather to be expected.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform aha.

mircea_popescu: kernel, the functional core of it anyways, upon which all these entirely worthless http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-21#1888849 slash http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-17#1887990 attention whores are hoping to base their wholly imaginary "careers" and http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-07#1885512 etc, is about same vintage and about same quality as apache. ☝︎☝︎☝︎

mircea_popescu: and even taking the epsilon% remaining, 99+% of when THAT crashed it was because fucking drepper & co "upgraded" some shit.

mircea_popescu: linux kernel has a gash in itself, where "it gotta work with firmware" or "modules" or w/e the crap. 99+% percent of the time kernel crashed it wasn't the fucking kernel.

mircea_popescu: hat can be said of the interweb at large.

mircea_popescu: the fucking insanity, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-21#1882561 ; the particular apache running trilema has ~never~ crashed. nor do i expect it ever will ; nor can i conceive how the fuck "it's open to all comers on a net interface" can even begin to be equated with "it's facing me and my keyboard and that's all". you're not ~trying~ to fucking crash emacs, are you ? on the fucking contrary, which is the ~exact contrary~ of w ☝︎

mircea_popescu: np.

mircea_popescu: yea, here's how they resemble : 1. "why are you wearing that old rag ?" "it's pretty" "maybe it was" "same difference" "mkay" vs 2. "why are you using that old math ?" "itworks" "maybe it did" "also". 1===2~!!!1111

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-22#1889130 << the numbers are right there, what. so-and-so mp's box does so and so requests. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: the problem is, cartels not particularly impressed with usg these days. all was needed to keep assad in power was russia, but a colombia-venezuela-mexico wondertriangle is a lot easier defended. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: heh

mircea_popescu: dnc also works for as long as it doesn'thave to, and god knows the us army is built on that doctrine.

mircea_popescu: same exact reason everything else in the femstate "works".

mircea_popescu: "The only reason "high speed" connections to a "global" internet works at residential price points is because they don't have to." << keks.

mircea_popescu: kinda the problem of social media 30-something year old "career woman" : solitude, to death.

mircea_popescu: if you're solo why even bother, go nude.

mircea_popescu: so fucking stupid, solo in bikini. why the fuck even, shit's invented to be with others.

mircea_popescu: not that bikini is exactly "risque", but it does take some mettle.

mircea_popescu: poor gigi chick.

mircea_popescu: and yes, obviously, the problem is tcp connection is stateful, which means memory allocation, and SUCH THINGS (if not necessarily just that thing). ☟︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-22#1889061 << this principle may be interesting in principle ; but in practice you refused to do anything about it, as per that whole http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-04#1847524 ; one's stuck concluding that there's more to the principle than the principle. ☝︎☝︎☟︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-22#1889040 << this is entirely besides the point. yes with 256 mb it can serve more simultaneously than with 64, but that's all the difference. the fact that a larger engine puts out more torque than a smaller engine isn't proof positive of "something fundamentally wrong with carnot cycles" ☝︎☟︎

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's not nearly as serious a problem in apache as you seem to think.

mircea_popescu: i don't think there even exists a publication currently that manages 500 reader-days. period and full stop, the fucking bible doesn't get that.