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asciilifeform: is what i was thinkin'!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform isn't it lulzy how there's EXACTLY the same "volume" going on the fiat fansites irrespective ?
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2018/02/05/is-this-what-you-get-for-trying-to-help-the-less-fortunate/ << Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - Is this what you get for trying to help the less fortunate?
mircea_popescu: just because one manages to die in spite of penicillin doesn't mean antibiotics aren't the end of transmissible disease.
mircea_popescu: i do not believe it is "never recovered from mongol therapy", i believe it's "And they were such retarded pantsuits, not even the mongols could help them"
asciilifeform: this pov is imho rather like 'it is the garbagecollector that makes for a lispm'
asciilifeform: ashes are good fertilizer but not themselves plant life. witness the near east (buchara etc) that never recovered from the mongol-therapy.
mircea_popescu: this is what culture is, the contents of the ashtray in which the above was smoked.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform hey, culture is entirely the product of regular rape. if you don't bother invading the town across the hill, killing all the men and raping all the women THAT ARE EAGER FOR IT (see http://trilema.com/2016/mochila-o-muerte/#selection-57.0-59.17 ) and killing all the rest, there's simply no way to have a culture, no matter what.
asciilifeform: ( 'slow paypal that eats disk', it'd be )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it isn't clear that anybody'dve bothered with bitcoinism if this scenario were possible
mircea_popescu: 2mn halved every year for a decade ain't come to much.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-05 18:35 mircea_popescu: america was great specifically because it didn't have that kind of people.
asciilifeform: can observe however that the flip-side of the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-05#1781569 medal is that europistan has actual cultures, but ameristan -- not ☝︎
mircea_popescu: imagine what'd have happened to a body that spent $2k to buy 200 pizza's ie 2mn bitcoin back in 2009 if he paid "tax" on his stash every year.
a111: Logged on 2014-08-13 14:40 asciilifeform: 'They tend to show up late at parties because they figure they can always steal the cake anyway, so why bother go early ? Let the suckers figure out first - on their own dime - where the good cakes are, then just swoop in and collect... This means the only way they can get in is if you let them get in. Don’t let them get in for cheap - they have no business here.' (mp's http://trilema.com/2014/people-us-dollar
asciilifeform: then fastforward to the http://btcbase.org/log/2014-08-13#794524 maggotry, 'where's ours?!!' etc ☝︎
mircea_popescu: (in fact, difference between new york and buenos aires wrt their relative impacts on countryside is probably MOSTLY explained by taxation)
asciilifeform: and if there had been a property tax in those days -- prolly would've been 0 takers
mircea_popescu: much like landgrants in the new world were generally seen, for a long time.
asciilifeform: the interesting and very btc-like aspect of the rr landgrants was that they were initially seen as ~totally worthless
a111: Logged on 2015-02-06 19:45 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 2) client companies of the state wish to be important. the market tells them to stuff it 3) government steps in... <<< see also the famous example of syntex corp. in mexico (carl djerassi!) - first mass-production of synthetic progestins, then nationalized, then gone - 'bad luck!'
mircea_popescu: back to teh fetlife lulz : the amusing part, at least toi me, is that friend-adding still works! i'm the happy owner of an account with 7890 of them. which i expect is the site record.
asciilifeform: ( hey, asciilifeform had at least 1 thread where 'and by + i meant - !' so.)
mircea_popescu: so i have little trouble believing, as clemens describes, "mark spot for depoit, buy the land from farmer, sell later at profit"
asciilifeform: but where's the robbery
asciilifeform: well yes, they stripped away the feudal scaffolding. naturally what's left, is this
mircea_popescu: "say one dollar more over its fair value and it's yours. the woman will get used to it."
mircea_popescu: america was great specifically because it didn't have that kind of people. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: try this in "civilised" europe, people hurr durr about "their ancestors" wtf batshit nonsense.
mircea_popescu: you gotta understand what "capitalism" meant. you could, and often people DID, walk on premises of say farm, make cash offer to owner, and he'd be out in a week.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i much believe the former.
asciilifeform: i.e. suddenly 'near the rails' became 'the place to be', and all the land was already owned by the grantees
mircea_popescu: i think the way the socialist empires work, everything they do decays over time.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re the rails, i still don't wholly grasp whether the railroad co's in 19th c usa actually robbed anybody, or whether (as seems moar plausible) the whole thing was an early sneak preview of early-bitcoinism
asciilifeform: lol,there was a pause, was there a mp legalization act passed by parliament, then rescinded!?!11
mircea_popescu: mp, teh illegal alien [being of puree nergy]
a111: Logged on 2018-02-05 16:16 hanbot: mircea_popescu sure i remember, was one of the more hysterical objections i'd ever heard. and iirc it wasn't just that *trilema* was "illegal"; *you* were lol
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-05#1781388 << looks like im about to be illegal yet again!!!1 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: who else was going to supply money.
mircea_popescu: yes ? the above "40k/track mile" is congress appropriations also.
mircea_popescu: it's about 100mn currently, which implies a 2500x devaluation in the interval.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it wasn't technically expropriation -- iirc it was 1st given away to 'homesteaders' and then 'ungiven' when track was built
mircea_popescu: (for the curious : 40k/track mile was a generous-ishj appropriation for rail back then)
a111: Logged on 2017-06-14 03:16 asciilifeform: tell the folx expropriated by usg-cum-'private'railroads ( live <10mile of new tracks ? lose land ) about 'property right' , etc
asciilifeform: upstack re the rails, a bit moarcomplicated, see also http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-14#1669896 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: nah, i expect http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-02#1779731 bothered them. ☝︎
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: broke the messages table!
mircea_popescu: <div class="notice_bar"><div class="ac">Unfortunately, creating new messages is currently broken. We are looking into it. Sorry. :(</div><a href="#" class="xxs un tdn i hide_notice" style="position: absolute; top: 10px; right: 10px">close</a></div> << the added element.
asciilifeform: ain't that the central knob ? what does this leave ?
mircea_popescu: and no state ever produces much in the way of sluts.
mircea_popescu: the importance of this, however, afaik went unnoticed. it makes a fucking difference to not have sluts ready to go on an adventure.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, spencer correctly points out the state-run french railways were a joke mid 1800s.
mircea_popescu: of course, not in any meaningful sense -- england itself is still a shithole today, with that as it'd have been without that (holland, or portugal work as baseline)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's my considered oppinion that had napoleon switched the fleet to ironclads and had the french state not been permitted to operate any railroads, they'd have rebounded.
mircea_popescu: it's a fabulous case to illustrate what a) personal failure in divine leader coupled with b) state always ruins all opportunities can produce in a short century.
asciilifeform: ( to be fair mircea_popescu discussed this at length in old articles )
asciilifeform: the french had fucked their goat long before this checkmate tho
mircea_popescu: ie, english would have been spoken in america the way french is spoken in canada.
mircea_popescu: had the french had the sense to ironclad in 1799 and to private railroad in 1820, likely us rail system would have started from st louis and new orleans rather than new york and philadelphia, and as a result the 1860 dispute would have been a case of "tiny english east being shaken off humongous french colonial empire".
a111: Logged on 2017-10-10 01:45 mircea_popescu: used anything there was a significant chance to break a wheel in the road, as all the trails were built by 1435 mm wheels. but why were they ? because when the romans originally landed, they used 1435 mm wide wheelbases, which they had originally specified because it is what two average horses asses cover.
mircea_popescu: because the english had the railroad private, by the time they were ~done with it and the us was starting, they exported (unintentionally) a lot of the "mature" technology across the ocean. the united states was built atop the railroad, and consequently imported english like it imported http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-10#1723584 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: 1. when presented the steam engine, napoleon failed to see what's so great about it, resulting in no french steamboats. 2. once the english started using the steam engine in land mobility applications, the french incredibly idiotically made their railroads state property, thus ensuring they had no technology and no experts on hand.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-12 02:13 asciilifeform: the one with 'rich folx live in space station nao'
asciilifeform: ( entomologists who enjoyed http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-12#1769612 etc , will like this one ) ☝︎
mircea_popescu: so, the ~reason~ north america ended up speaking english is two fold, and has nothing to do with anglotards.
mircea_popescu: ah, speaking of trains, here's a story i wanted to tell!
asciilifeform: this is the one where errybody is somehow inside a train
mircea_popescu: is this some soylent green takeoff ?
asciilifeform: 'omfg they still have Real Eggs!111' etc
asciilifeform: strong leitmotif throughout
asciilifeform: nao that i think of it, that whole (otherwise almost intolerably ameritardian) film was really about amerifood
mircea_popescu: great comments, too.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in great trilemas i should probably translate, http://trilema.com/2011/exercitiu-practic-de-dileme-morale/
asciilifeform: https://youtu.be/1Ol2WJIoE0A?t=1m8s << oblig tru-to-laef hollywoodism
a111: Logged on 2015-09-03 03:21 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-09-2015#1260904 << i recently met a fella who cannot drink american instant coffee. breaks out in hives. and not on account of the coffee, but from having allergy to... cockroaches.
trinque: "Oh yeah? We still produce RST packets!" said the agent, before losing his gaze in a cup of Folgers.
mircea_popescu: for a country that produces nothing and has nothing, the us manages to isolate itself from all markets worth the mention with admirable abandon.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 22:54 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1731544 << everyone is, as a result of usg militant tardation. i can just drive into brazil. you -- can not. they "banned" turkish visitors, as if anyone from turkey could be arsed to go to the us ; turkey reciprocated, meaning about 70% of classical antiquity is now off limits to what in english passes for "the civilised world".
mircea_popescu: another example of the http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1731593 problem ☝︎
asciilifeform: recall incidentally that the orig 'spreading worx!11' lulgem concerned synth-caviar.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform iirc the russkis produced most of it.
mircea_popescu: (this -- much more common problem for usgistan than ever admitted, or even realised. most ro good wines are not exported ; similarly not french, nor etcetera.)
mircea_popescu: im not aware anyone actually exports beluga to the us
asciilifeform: in american 'high end' shops there is, incidentally, product claiming to be 'Ersteklasse', but (largely from asciilifeform's childhood memory) i would say that it is a lie, is actually 'Zweite Klasse' per mircea_popescu's table.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the metonimy there suggests "to harden them up chemically", ie implant (like silicone implants) but of hardness not of bigness.
mircea_popescu: cotor => book spine, the tough part of cabbage, more generally a hard core of things
a111: Logged on 2018-02-05 16:24 mircea_popescu: local beer drinkin' gals (and the beer here is terryfying swill) think my fine rum (which is indeed finest in the world) is no good.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-05#1781395 << ancient in this vein, http://trilema.com/2011/caviarul-si-fata/#selection-21.0-29.341 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-02-05 16:19 hanbot: to its credit, chair never threw itself into my wine, to have to be fished out.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-05#1781391 << the difference is technical, chair "threw itself" into toe, stubbing it. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: to give comprehension a chance : the joke in http://trilema.com/2011/spamerul-dan-pulic/#selection-99.54-99.175 is not really comprehensible without the visual aid found in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NJCwxCLklg about 1 minute in.
asciilifeform: they compose 'except when they don't', as in the various vdiff inbandism headaches
asciilifeform: dedicated entomologist could prolly clean out the dbusism from'em. but i did not want to waste whole month.
asciilifeform: fwiw there are a number of proggies i was not able to build on that x60 , under my gentoo banflag-list . e.g. 'chromium', number of others.
mircea_popescu: (the true problem is that you end up with approximable programs, that do who knows what ; so not fit for running en serio)
asciilifeform: so no, not surprised. but said removals require good bit of actual work with hands; i have very rarely found that it was possible to do it 'with 3 lines of sed'
mircea_popescu: not mechanical, no. just the principle of the thing -- jwz's indications of "required" are worth exactly as much as jwz itself.
asciilifeform: well yes, recall where i bulldozered out the autoconfism in mpi
mircea_popescu: you'd be surprised how often the "requirements" can simply be trampled with nary a shit given as to whose hopes and aspirations this rapes and how badly.