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mircea_popescu: trinque thinking about it, dozen boards, dozen cpus, two dozen hdds, ram, fgs... i doubt he can actually carry this much.

a111: Logged on 2018-02-06 01:57 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo phf trinque diana_coman so i'm thinking of basically getting a dozen amd fx-8350s (because just 125w compared to say fx-9590s 220) racked in u2 mbs (say maybe ASRock 970M PRO3 ? i thinkl that fits in 2u neh ?) with 64 gb ram each and a coupla ssds ? any complaints/suggestions ?

trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-06#1781846 << I've been very pleased with an ASRock-based tower I built recently. ☝︎

trinque: so, my finances are going to stay taught as teenaged pussy in 2018

trinque is probably not the only person who is going to be aggressively buying bitcoin now that the blowoff happened.

trinque: "my name is BingoBoingo and a U costs X, the end." pls&ty

trinque: not "here's our cost model" plus whatever margin and maybe we find there are other costs later, or something

trinque: not stating an explicit price per U is going to make the folks who aren't independently wealthy hesitant to dive in headfirst.

ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: why are you not rolling VAT into this pricing scheme?

mircea_popescu: well, exposing history is prolly 90% of the job anyway. give people a feel for it.

trinque: we might even get to the point where I *am* willing to quote fees ahead of time

mircea_popescu: trinque i suspect his whole thing was "how much under "all" must i withdraw to get it through". but in any case, how hard would it be to have a !!fee that reports "past week avg fee : x (y txn)" "past month avg fee" etc.

asciilifeform: mod6: there is not some private segment that was not shown ( aside from sept.-dec. exchanges where asciilifeform was directed to obtain $iron, reported on progress, all the way to 'dulap-III ready for installation' )

asciilifeform: whole thing is in the logs.

mod6: I'm certain that I don't know all of what was discussed between yourself and mircea_popescu - even in this very chamber.

mod6: I'm not here to tell you what to do.

asciilifeform: mod6: it isn't clear what i am to apologize to mircea_popescu for : not being a telepath ? not having extra set of hands to make errything on conveyor happen at once ? what, exactly.

asciilifeform: if he says ' ok, moron, go fucking finish it ' i'ma scratch head and finish it ; otherwise i got 9000pounds of what to still do otherwise

asciilifeform: mod6: seems like he dun want $article anymoar . will go into second fit re 'wasted time writing unwanted piece, oughta have done not-yet-cancelled items'

mod6: I srsly doubt anyone thinks you're an idiot. I certainly do not. Maybe just take an irc break for a few hours. Stop your converyor belt, go and write blog post about boxen; even if too late. Ask forgiveness. Who knows, maybe Mr. Popescu changes his mind. Maybe not. But eitherway, lesson learned 'eh?

asciilifeform: incidentally, if trinque , phf , et al , grasp mircea_popescu's pov, and think ' asciilifeform is idjit ' , invited to explain to asciilifeform .

danielpbarron: trinque, ok thank you

asciilifeform: oh, and not to forget , 'permanently disposed of '

trinque: danielpbarron: if somebody withdraws entire balance, I subtract the tx fee from that amount.

asciilifeform: currently i have a clogged conveyor, consisting of 'keep weekly posts, idjit' and 'manifest of now-and-future iron' , in that sequence . asciilifeform sits and continues to grind conveyor. meanwhile mircea_popescu throws fit, 'you fucked it' , etc.

danielpbarron: trinque, ok so should he try to withdraw the full amount and then it'll say.. ?

trinque: because consider, I automatically quote you a fee, and then the mempool fills up. now what

trinque: and nah, I'm not quoting them ahead of time

asciilifeform: hanbot's tip re calendars didn't particularly help either.

asciilifeform: i am utterly unable to make sense of mircea_popescu's eggog

mircea_popescu: you realise this is the definition of tilt, yes ? "i know better than mp" etc.

asciilifeform: at any rate, as previously described asciilifeform is tilt-proof, any time mircea_popescu feels like making sense again, is invited to resume.

mircea_popescu: you had your take, fucked it up, maybe at some point you get more. that's it.

a111: Logged on 2018-02-06 01:31 mircea_popescu: here, chew on this doozy : i will not use any of your shit now.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you can't be serious ? that whole thing is permanently disposed in http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-06#1781804 ; it ain't gonna change, what do you imagine this is, kindergarten of free takes ? ☝︎

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu naturally is free to barf and 'i'ma use old shoe instead' because 'you did not format it as i demanded!' .

a111: Logged on 2018-02-02 21:40 mircea_popescu: not even necessarily photo, a simple "here is what we have, COMPLETE specs ; and what we probably might want to ~EVER~ get".

asciilifeform: the 'here is what we have' of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-02#1779933 is fulfilled by what mircea_popescu termed 'the random garbage in the log' (in fact a complete actionable description of asciilifeform's inventory.) the 'what we will EVER want to get' , and asciilifeform is multiply on record re subj, is more of exactly same , 63xx/61xx opterons , from same surplus contacts where asciilifeform previously obtained the 3. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: if one sentence's insufficient however many more are available upon request. PRIOR rather than POST failure.

danielpbarron: trinque, what is the fee charged for deedbot withdraw? is there a way to check pre-emptively?

mircea_popescu: hey. the job is reading and understanding what's said. nobody else can, or will do it for you.

asciilifeform: the way i parsed mircea_popescu's original work req, is that it was to be primarily a manifest of iron ready to fly in time for phf.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the fucking problem is exactly the "partial info". i'd rather have none.

mircea_popescu: so that instead of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-06#1781846 i could've said (YESTERDAY) "hey folks, look at alf's article, make comments" ☝︎

asciilifeform: hanbot , mircea_popescu : it ain't unnecessary, but it was stuck on the conveyor behind delayed ch10. asciilifeform (apparently mistakenly) assumed that mircea_popescu could act on the partial info. instead he 'yer an idjit, i'ma make my boxes from old shoes nao instead'

mircea_popescu: why. because it never was "hey, re-tell me what i already know", it was "hey, try and apply your knowledge to producing a list of what we want to buy"/

a111: Logged on 2018-02-02 23:52 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'ma uncrate things, take pics, expect a roundup sunday night.

hanbot: asciilifeform so why not say "this task is stupid and unnecessary and i won't do it" instead of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-02#1780446 ? ☝︎

mircea_popescu: what's that to do with anything ?

asciilifeform: is well-known to everybody tuned in.

asciilifeform: hanbot: i have nfi what the reaction is, possibly mircea_popescu has indigestion instead of rum, or whatever. i have a total of 3 usable machines, purchased after consultation with mircea_popescu , and reimbursed by him; specs were detailed to mircea_popescu before and after purchase . 1 machine was intended for s.nsa in particular; 2 for use as mircea_popescu later sees fit. whole thing was laid out in the logs on several occasions,

hanbot: asciilifeform are you basically arguing that the reaction is disproportionate?

mircea_popescu: juhoitse no space after !! there you go

asciilifeform: hanbot: the man's clearly imbibed a critical mass of high octane rum, i can only leave him to digest it .

mircea_popescu: nothing besides next fucking time do post whatever's required as required and naught else.

asciilifeform: i have nfi what to answer to this.

mircea_popescu: you wanna participate, you gotta participate, not fuck up people's work for them.

mircea_popescu: and as an added bonus, you now get to go about looking for lords willing to bring your ideas about republican iron to the table, because i'm not further looking for your input on the topic just as i'm not further looking for your input on eucrypt topic. ☟︎

asciilifeform: this is what, a bbet-style acid test ? next item is that asciilifeform is expected to go into tilt ? guess wat, asciilifeform is tilt-proof.

hanbot: asciilifeform i don't doubt it, but my tidbit is solely re what i quoted from you, ie got stuck trying to satisfy earlier item, and so hadn't produced other item by deadline that prolly didn't even seem like one

mircea_popescu: at some point, maybe, if we're lucky, s.nsa will get another chance to have its iron delivered. until then, there it sits.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes dude. you were to produce a blog article detailing the items sunday night, you dumped random lines in log monday night isntead. this is what fucking up delivery is.

asciilifeform: hanbot: i have the full stack of communiques from asciilifeform to mircea_popescu re each purchase, his responses, etc. and so does he. it dun seem to help.

hanbot: anyway i humbly suggest breaking out the day by day calendar etc when met with surprises as above.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nothing in particular, they can just sit and wait. you can write a letter to the shareholders explaining how you fucked up delivery if you wish.

danielpbarron: mircea_popescu, let me know the address? i'll send them tomorrow

hanbot: <asciilifeform> picture this, i even took the photos, and cropped, etc. and got stuck trying to satisfy mircea_popescu's earlier item << fwiw, i suspect organizational trouble rather'n deliberate anti-delivery here. i'll say: i spent years imagining i.e. deliberate, detailed scheduling, writing "bullet points" etc was for dumb people, and that naturally i didn't need it. and i got by for various definitions of gettin', but didn't wash in mp's com

asciilifeform: hey mircea_popescu , as s.nsa fuhrer, wouldja condescend to say what it is you want done with the 3u of iron you had commissioned ?

danielpbarron: also, should i unbox them to reduce the size/cost?

mircea_popescu: he leaves on 13th, so if you send them say tomorrow they can't possibly be late i dun think ?

mircea_popescu: do the maffs and let me know.

mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo incidentally, this rack is 19 inch or 23 inch ?

mircea_popescu: danielpbarron can you get a coupla dozen FGs shipped to phf in wash dc ? how much ?

mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo phf trinque diana_coman so i'm thinking of basically getting a dozen amd fx-8350s (because just 125w compared to say fx-9590s 220) racked in u2 mbs (say maybe ASRock 970M PRO3 ? i thinkl that fits in 2u neh ?) with 64 gb ram each and a coupla ssds ? any complaints/suggestions ? ☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎

asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu for some reason of his own won't arrange the delivery of the completed box to s.bisp , asciilifeform will have to do so on his own, in furtherance of his obligations as s.nsa cto.

asciilifeform: the 4 ssd were the 'tangibles' in dec 2017 statement.

a111: Logged on 2018-02-06 01:42 mircea_popescu: in order to be useful you must actually communicate. this "ima just do whatever the fuck occurs to me" dun cut it. never has, never will.

asciilifeform: and in no sense represent a failure to http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-06#1781829 . ☝︎

asciilifeform: i ask this because the 3 boxes were purchased in autumn, after pedantically detailed discussion with mircea_popescu (see s.nsa reports for sept, oct 2017); , and on his express approval, paid for, burn-in tested, etc.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'ma ask , naturally mircea_popescu dun gotta answer : how much rum today

mircea_popescu: yes well. maybe some other time.

asciilifeform: i also have a price table of disks, and discussion of future availability of opteron

a111: Logged on 2018-02-02 21:40 mircea_popescu: not even necessarily photo, a simple "here is what we have, COMPLETE specs ; and what we probably might want to ~EVER~ get".

a111: Logged on 2018-02-02 21:40 asciilifeform: i'ma have to uncrate and photo then, later this weekend.

mircea_popescu: where did taking photos come from ?

a111: Logged on 2018-01-30 23:08 mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-29#1777970 << infiniely better to keep time discipline and adjust material than to lose time discipline to adjust it to your disease.

asciilifeform: picture this, i even took the photos, and cropped, etc. and got stuck trying to satisfy mircea_popescu's earlier http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-30#1778264 item ☝︎

mircea_popescu: in order to be useful you must actually communicate. this "ima just do whatever the fuck occurs to me" dun cut it. never has, never will. ☟︎

a111: Logged on 2018-02-02 21:40 mircea_popescu: just make that post will you!

asciilifeform: so as not to throw fits.

asciilifeform: the problem is to figure out wat exactly mircea_popescu wants

mircea_popescu: how about you stop doing dumb shit instead of running around trying to fix the dumb shit you already did.

mircea_popescu: he can't provide you a fucking quote on my airfare, what the fuck's wrong with you.

jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.

asciilifeform: !~later tell phf provide quote for shipping asciilifeform's (or maybe mircea_popescu's ?) 1U box, invoice asciilifeform .

asciilifeform: so what, phf is under orders not to ship completed dulap-III ? mircea_popescu proclaims 's.nsa dun need a www' or FG storefront or wat

a111: Logged on 2017-12-14 18:45 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-14#1751463 << it does exactly one fucking job. this one : diana_coman please don't talk to asciilifeform or take any further advice from him. total timewaste.

mircea_popescu: you managed to get yourself locked out with http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-14#1751567 and now you've managed to get yourself locked out of furnishing bbisp. ☝︎

asciilifeform: they aren't actually mine tho, they're s.nsa inventory, mircea_popescu in fact had paid for'em.