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mircea_popescu: mod6, you gotta sleep enough. it's of the same ilk as http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1815080 exactly. the hovel may seem livable ; but it is not. ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-18 01:28 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1815092 << you didn't even give him a workorder yet (as you don't evne have a sales plan yet) and you want to add incentives to it ? kinda ass-backwards!
mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-18#1815174 << yeah, pretty much. just chuckin out possibilities as I hadn't contemplated the matter much. obv. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1815092 << you didn't even give him a workorder yet (as you don't evne have a sales plan yet) and you want to add incentives to it ? kinda ass-backwards! ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: meanwhile : achtung phuctor readers : http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1815117 is finished, transforming e.g. https://archive.li/s5G5m into https://archive.li/4kMpY , bringing us up to , funnily enuff, ~same count of factors as prior to http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1815114 operation. ☝︎☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1815045 << the make food area incidentally is easy to misjudge. it'll make a world of difference, both in qol and what that qol costs, once you get a proper kitchen going. ideally with womanly help as i dunno you're that competent. have bread going every other day, have a pot of soup always, the good old strictures of european ie civilised life. ☝︎☟︎
ben_vulpes: great, i mentioned hostingdiscussion.com , webhostingtalk.com, forums.hostsearch.com to you, also warriorforum.com from mircea_popescu's mentions once upon a time. i'll dig up some others as well.
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> yeah, it's fuckin tricky, though. i'm trying to estimate what could reasonably be packed into uy1 from a shared shell and ftp perspective, but i think 20 shell accounts and 100 lower-end ftp-only accounts is probably the max that box can carry without overbooking it, and if we can get to that point within a year i'll be pleased as punch, as it'll cover a significant fraction of the whole pizarro operation's << Sweet
ben_vulpes: yeah, it's fuckin tricky, though. i'm trying to estimate what could reasonably be packed into uy1 from a shared shell and ftp perspective, but i think 20 shell accounts and 100 lower-end ftp-only accounts is probably the max that box can carry without overbooking it, and if we can get to that point within a year i'll be pleased as punch, as it'll cover a significant fraction of the whole pizarro operation's
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo struck asciilifeform as a sensible fella, who won't blow whole wad on the proverbial h&b. more like , wants to maybe go on shore leave some day; and not to be 1 broken leg or frivolous charges filed by city hall (like they did to him in usa) away from penury
ben_vulpes: i'd rather pay increased living costs either as a flat fee to get into the apartment or monthly on the rental so that you can cook for yourself and get off the street food
mod6: We will still need to increase your overall $1800 per month (or whatever it is, so you can have pants and shoes, etc.), and an apartment was in the discussion as well.
mod6: As far as the 8000 now, this really cuts into our available cash flow. Aside from the plainly stated fact that we then also, aside from paying bills, need to figure out how to translate another ~1 BTC in to USD and then have someone wire/WU it down to you.
mod6: Here's the problem. We obviously need you / want you to stay. I'm told you've been doing a good job there. We have limited money at this time, as obviously, we just got into business here; and we're still trying to figure out how to get to break-even. I think the 1 BTC at the end of next february is something we can do for ya.
ben_vulpes: does this extend to ftp users as well?
trinque: all you need is a privesc in one of the services running as root, or kernel-side bug, or..
asciilifeform: it's roughly same isolation as the lock on your house's bathroom.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 14:51 asciilifeform: fact of the matter is that shared unix tenant can create problems for the others ( without necessarily revealing himself as the source of said problem ) quite trivially . ( vps is moar 'nobus' in this respect, generally the 'escapes' are not public )
asciilifeform: and they suffer same bitrot and single-event problems as eeproms/'flash', incl. 'throw it out after 20 yrs'
mircea_popescu: the search for actually useful local accts specialists as fruitless as search for w/e, electronic parts supplioers ?\
BingoBoingo: It's the flyer the government produces as gringo bait
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: my item should be regarded as spare/auxiliary , nobody should hold breath for it
asciilifeform: so, lemme get this straight, a '3 week cedula' is as good as a native BingoBoingostani passport , for e.g. banks ?
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: A UY corp would be an actual corp. What I have now, as discussed previously is a unipersonal, essentially I am a registered person doing business. This means what I do as the Unipersonal is all personal liability. Corps can receive all kinds of incoming transactions that aren't necessarily "income".
BingoBoingo: As many contracts etc that we have sitting in my personal name, I am wary of the bus factor (either getting hit by or brain irrecoverably eggog'ing inside of). I have serious reservations for a plan that involves sending scans of my personal non-US identity document to allow someone sitting inside the empire to play trader, if that is what the request is for. I apologize if this is an uncharitable reading, but if you want me to instead
BingoBoingo: I can prepare reports on the local corporate options, and from what I understand asciilifeform is working on a corporate conduit for this sort of transaction as well.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform because "white man" aka esltard won't learn fucking languages, or leave "the country" ie zone. and when he does, he takes care to first arm self with such impenetrable armor of shit-for-brains as to practically make no possible difference to anyone.
asciilifeform: it isn't a 'consumable' as such; doesn't wear out on read, and lasts for as long as the machine it is installed into
mircea_popescu: as it is bound to recur.
asciilifeform: ( and, lulzily, classical sd card ~does not support write protect~, it has the same usg.nonsensical 'software read writeprotect tab' as old floppies ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: otp. as in, one-time programmable
mircea_popescu: if there can even be such a thing as a goal of human existence, "do not have the problems of the stupid" is a prime candidate.
mircea_popescu: this is then summarized as "asciilifeform iirc rms really hated noftsker, for some reason", and always in that same format, too, "for some reason". the reason, above : x said something y took somewhere.
mircea_popescu: i suspect, further, that this is traditionally, and nearly universally, the failure mode in "tech" ie computer fabrication and utilization (and thereby may be a major item in say http://trilema.com/2018/the-symbolics-discussion/ ) : the production of ideal objects involved is so complex, management ends up in info overload and the technologists involved end up misinterpreting the barf as meaningful ~within their visible edges
mircea_popescu: it might as well fucking be, of course.
mircea_popescu: if they're not out there advertising it as a srsly, it's utterly not worth our/anyone's time to consider whatever data they have.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: oh hah i assumed he wanted the 'cedula' scan for the same purpose BingoBoingo sent me his old americedula scan ( so as to send crates his way )
mircea_popescu: anyway, i'm not proposing x.1 as a counterargument of y.2, they're separate trees, and separate trees are reconciled at the roots by a manager.
asciilifeform: fact of the matter is that shared unix tenant can create problems for the others ( without necessarily revealing himself as the source of said problem ) quite trivially . ( vps is moar 'nobus' in this respect, generally the 'escapes' are not public ) ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 06:25 mircea_popescu: mod6, anyway, to answer some angle of the question asked, rather than "the question read between the lines" -- pizarro wirh 8 something btc in cash whatever it is does not specifically require more cash to confront a 1.x expenditure and some months of .5 each overhead or w/e it is. the fact that you two are committed to further putting money in as need may be is utterly sufficient, as far as i can discern. ymmv, but you asked.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 05:56 mircea_popescu: now currently you're engaging in a boatload of pussyfooting around the fact that pizarro doesn't need more capital as it is ; and the only conceivable function more capital could possibly serve as things stand is to give you some other excuse to not get sales going.
ave1: As to this: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-16#1814283. This is all a matter of the specsfile apparently. Now I can do a dumpspec and sed script to make it always do statics, or I can change the source-code that has references to shared/static dispersed over C and H file in the gcc/config/ directory. This will take some time to get right (if the first approach works then I know what to do for the second). This will take some days ☝︎
mircea_popescu: mod6, anyway, to answer some angle of the question asked, rather than "the question read between the lines" -- pizarro wirh 8 something btc in cash whatever it is does not specifically require more cash to confront a 1.x expenditure and some months of .5 each overhead or w/e it is. the fact that you two are committed to further putting money in as need may be is utterly sufficient, as far as i can discern. ymmv, but you asked. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: they'll replace you in good time, which is to say if they have to pour more money in at the earliest. but that day's not yet upon you, and until it is, might as well give it your best shot.
mod6: We just need to keep pressing, not a moment to lose, as mircea_popescu keeps reminding us.
mod6: We have a variety of urgent matters to address. As soon as we get the additional money in place, we can get the new rockchips going. Give BingoBoingo a raise (& new digs?).
mircea_popescu: now currently you're engaging in a boatload of pussyfooting around the fact that pizarro doesn't need more capital as it is ; and the only conceivable function more capital could possibly serve as things stand is to give you some other excuse to not get sales going. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-16 16:35 mircea_popescu: so agree that you'll each add another 5btc as circumstances merit ; then pizarro has all the backing it needs and a clear path to success. and if the circumstances "merit" in the sense that it needs rescuing rather than it's expanding, you can fire the management and get someone else or w/e.
mircea_popescu: mod6, technically you don't have stock as you're not listed ; but yes, you'd own whatever % regardless.
mod6: For instance, let us use a scenario such as: asciilifeform puts in X BTC, mod6 matches alf's X BTC (where X <= 5), can this be created as stock then? In this scenario 500`000 shares would be assigned to alf & mod6 alike. In the circumstance I would put in (10 - X) more BTC, this could be assigned to me as "convertable bonds". I've been revisiting our conversation from a while back on the Pricing of Capita
mircea_popescu: might as well archive the lulz. http://www.keithraniere.com/
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, perhaps should organize a carrying of various spare odds and ends such as a dc must have on hand but the orcs do not : assorted cables, spare hdds / cards etc.
asciilifeform: ( was, as instructed, reply to msg containing same )
BingoBoingo: I have heard nothing. Did you simply mail them the scan, or did you accompany it with: With respect to [tracking number] here is the requested document. Considering [whatever prepaid customs program, and Amazon order #], I am confused as to why this parcel has not been delivered.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: and yes i mailed'em your photo, as you asked, 0 reply
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, some of the "transferwise" "customers" are evidently into money laundering, as the entire "service" transparently reeks of. soo... mno.
jurov: transferwise was better than paypal as they don't hold funds, they send each wire directly to my bank. if i used paypal, they have no problem to seize whole account.
mircea_popescu: to continue http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-16#1814352 : take the nizami story of khosrow (last persian ruler) and shirin (possibly roman princess). not only is it usually rendered in pantsuit retellings as "farhad and shirin" (farhad being the politruk, modernist element / in his own mind only rival to the king), but the very naive "women get a say, not the natural but the fabricated sort" it's steeped in (written as it is fi ☝︎
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i dun do flea pits. ( might stay extra day or two at own expense, in proper room, as time permits )
a111: Logged on 2018-05-01 16:25 phf: aight, i'm going to be out of commission until mid may. i have comments for eulora that i need to type up (i got to sit down with a printout out over this weekend), i'm not sure about the amount of work required for the grapher until i have time to sit down and read v.pl (i sort of have an idea of how to implement it as part of vtools, but i'm not sure if the slicing is adequate), until i do i don't have a clear idea of how long it's going to take. i m
mircea_popescu: so agree that you'll each add another 5btc as circumstances merit ; then pizarro has all the backing it needs and a clear path to success. and if the circumstances "merit" in the sense that it needs rescuing rather than it's expanding, you can fire the management and get someone else or w/e. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-16 14:42 asciilifeform: ( retaining some knob for dynamic linkage isn't totally useless, it enables such things as valgrind ; but i'm quite prepared to lose valgrind, it is not really so necessary when writing asciilifeform-style -- heapless -- ada )
mod6: <+asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: i'm not opposed to 2nd round, and would participate, iirc ben_vulpes & mod6 are weighing the numberz even as we speak. << yeah, we've been talking about this, indeed.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6, you see holes in ye logic ? << Sounds good. I think that s.nsa building the chassis then we do it as stated is fine. (unless I misunderstand). Pizarro will pay for these in cash. I agree too on staying away from the equity buys as well.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-16 13:35 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-16#1814192 << definitely not 28. unless a separate fg-less unit is built, then can hold 32 . and yes i have a cad drawing in progress, so as to work like men rather than monkeys in africa
asciilifeform: at one time asciilifeform hypothesized 'lizards want to unwind the mechant age and install selves as pseudo-feudal nobility' but today not sure of any such thing, possibly just fungal growth
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'm not opposed to 2nd round, and would participate, iirc ben_vulpes & mod6 are weighing the numberz even as we speak.
mircea_popescu: well one direct solution is to enlarge baloon as above.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, anyway, an' ftr, if your concern is that you're underweight pizarro, you can just as well do a second round. see if mod6 wants to either a) give it more btc or else b) move into a minority position. pizarro would certainly benefit from a larger piggy giving it more solidity etc, so you can do another 10-20 round either by yourself if mod6 is agreeable or else match together or any which old way. this isn't an u
mircea_popescu: i dunno why i assumed that's the case, but good you said something, as it'd never have occured to me to ask, either.
mircea_popescu: or else universe 2, whereby chassis for pizarro is produced by you as free agent. in this world we have to now explain what nsa actually is, which becomes a rather difficult task, and pizarro will have to sell its bonds on market, to whatever discount.
mircea_popescu: practically the situation here is this : we can either live in universe 1, whereby chassis for pizarro is produced by you for nsa, and sold by nsa to pizarro. in this world nsa stays what it always was, as above, and pizarro can (at practically your option, as i can go either way) pay with undiscounted bonds for cash-equivalent mateirals ;
mircea_popescu: afaik nsa always was exactly what phf is quoted above as having understood it is : the umbrella org for your manufactory.
asciilifeform: ( in case it isn't clear, asciilifeform views s.nsa as in effect a scientific collaboration / partizan front , with mircea_popescu , as asciilifeform does not expect to see any coin from it, i would like to be proven wrong about this, but i don't see selling >50 btc's profit worth of anything, esp not if the climb carries on )
mircea_popescu: if you do it as "myself" you get whatever chassis cost in btc in your pocket. if you do it as s.nsa you don't, is the logic ?
mircea_popescu: we were doing that as an easement, but it's evidently our option neh ?
a111: Logged on 2018-05-16 13:30 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-16#1814146 << asciilifeform in his capacity as 50% owner / operator of subj
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-16#1814276 << yes, but this encounters the following problem : http://btcbase.org/log/2016-01-16#1373235 ; while obviously this won't go as far as "every idea alf has", nevertheless by the time alf makes objects, and independently from nsa, then what is nsa ? ☝︎☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-16 13:26 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-16#1814131 << transport for rockchiptron will be considerably cheaper than 2500, as i can't picture needing a whole week, nor 400 in overweight charge for the crates
mircea_popescu: i dunno, i have scant interest in current persian. might as well care about neogreek. to what, to see how they decided to transliterate mcdonalds ?
a111: Logged on 2018-05-14 23:37 mircea_popescu: whole item is about as anti-modern as it gets.
mircea_popescu: and yes, this can very well be implemented as, "overvotlage its power line"
mircea_popescu: but can also be implemented as a distributed system, ie, EXACTLY LIKE IN PEOPLE.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-21 17:09 mircea_popescu: republican isp = competent sysadmin who handles relationship with multiple dcs in terms of getting hardware installed and refuses any requests made under color of law by the terrorist organisation known as "the united states government". and publishes them.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-16 09:00 diana_coman: well, I'd rather cross compile too if it works because then I can use the rockchip as launchpad for everything else, why not
diana_coman: o.O as much as I'd like to lose cpp all together and even forget that it ever existed, that's not feasible atm
asciilifeform: ( retaining some knob for dynamic linkage isn't totally useless, it enables such things as valgrind ; but i'm quite prepared to lose valgrind, it is not really so necessary when writing asciilifeform-style -- heapless -- ada ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: ave1: it should be made to do exactly same thing as the working pc version -- linked ~statically~ so it runs on ~any~ arm64 linux ; and build, similarly, statically linked, musltronic bins.
spyked: asciilifeform, shithub. as mentioned in http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-11#1812182 and http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-15#1813638 threads. ☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-16#1814192 << definitely not 28. unless a separate fg-less unit is built, then can hold 32 . and yes i have a cad drawing in progress, so as to work like men rather than monkeys in africa ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-16#1814146 << asciilifeform in his capacity as 50% owner / operator of subj ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-16#1814142 << i think he made the numbers deliberately pessimistic, so as to over- rather than under- shoot ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-16#1814131 << transport for rockchiptron will be considerably cheaper than 2500, as i can't picture needing a whole week, nor 400 in overweight charge for the crates ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-16 04:51 mircea_popescu: fwiw, i see the ROC-RK3328-CC at ~40 to maybe as high as 55 depending on quantity. 100 in one batch should be about 4000 realistically.
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-05-15 15:37 mod6: ah, maybe that as for 96. anyway, will wait for ben_vulpes
diana_coman: ave1, seems it needs more tweaking, as it still fails the same: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/IqoYy/?raw=true
diana_coman: anyways, might as well try it now
diana_coman: well, I'd rather cross compile too if it works because then I can use the rockchip as launchpad for everything else, why not ☟︎
ave1: also you can drop the x86_64, as you will probably not be cross compiling to x86_64
ave1: as for the error, can you go to build/build-bootstrap/binutils-2.25.1/build1 and paste the config.log?