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mircea_popescu: lobbes you lopped off a digit from the url ; it goes by #17924
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ty
mircea_popescu: lobbes the only important consideration here is that design is not a haphazard activity driven by occurence and circumstance. that's implementation. design is a deductive activity, it proceeds from first principles and does not break faith. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-03 16:57 BingoBoingo: In other news, the nose is mostly under control. South American cold still has my energy rather zapped. The Incan nurse however did apologize last night.
a111: Logged on 2013-05-06 02:54 tiberiusiv: miami is not like NYC lol
lobbes: To wrap back to this discussion, I think I see your point. There's no real reason this craptop needs to deal with the user input at all. All I need it for is to download, store and parse shit download from archive.is. >> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-03#17924 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-03 16:44 douchebag: last time I tried looking there were so broken links
a111: Logged on 2018-04-03 16:36 BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> so this upscale local market ("automercado") that stocks all the shit i buy and consequently got a multi-mn monthly account came up with the very dubious idea of running a promotion. one of those things where you get stickers with your receipt and then you fill a book ? in the terms of the master provisioneer, "they'll rue the day!". i think she's got like twenty of the things all lined up. << Here "automercados" are
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-03#1792321 << sounds like local knockoff. this thing only exists in cr, some local entrepreneur (in the proper sense of the term) made a supermarket that actually works. ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-03 15:38 trinque: instead of whining about it, why not bring back said bot
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-03#1792317 << well conceivably for the same reason alf isn't bringing back phuctor, neh. cuz he doesn't as of yet have where to bring it back from! ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( also comes with audio and video but i do not need these and have not tried'em )
asciilifeform: the other interesting pheature of this board is that it has no onboard flash. so nothing to sanitize aside from sdcard.
asciilifeform: chipset is a 'rockchip', i ported trb to it in 2015 iirc.
asciilifeform: and (unlike e.g. 'raspberry') the full datashits and schems are published.
asciilifeform: the interesting bit is that these boxen draw ~2 - 5 watt. and are of the physical dimensions of a pack of cards.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i like the model.
mircea_popescu: douchebag alf lands in the oriental republic sometime mid month ; you'll get your login then, an' your first task will be to get trb up on it ; and the tasks 2 throught 999 will be to have fun.
asciilifeform: then will simply clone the gentoo for each new user ( or he can transmit a SD image , signed , and BingoBoingo will pump it in, plug in a board, and up an' running )
asciilifeform: first things first, gotta terraform it.
mircea_popescu: this is neat. ok, chuck the largest sd you can find in there an' consider it sold.
asciilifeform: faster, in principle, even than zoolag
mircea_popescu: ah so could actually run trb np
asciilifeform: hdd is a highspeed SD card , and can be of any size ; there is also a usb3 jack, 480MB/s; and a 1G/s nic.
asciilifeform: the unit i am testing ( will buy a few moar once i'm satisfied that it is usable ) came with 2G. there is a 4G supposedly also in production, but i was not able to obtain it
asciilifeform: chinese thing, they publish schematic , even.
asciilifeform: ROC-RK3328-CC ( currently building a kernel for it, without the 'evil' periphs ) ☟︎☟︎☟︎
douchebag: Well, I'm gonna grab a cigarette to aid with this excitement
mircea_popescu: what was on those, i forget ?
mircea_popescu: yeah, tell you what, i'll be as happy as you are once it's finally done.
douchebag: Holy shit thanks!!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dunno he can arm... one thing at a time.
asciilifeform: hey maybe he will be the test patient for the new arm boxen.
mircea_popescu: douchebag i'll get you a sever once the pizarro folk unwrap their heads enough to actually have one on offer. so you can tinker on gentoo, trb etc and get out of the "vps" bs hell. ☟︎
douchebag: I bet so many bots could be pwned with similar techniques
lobbes: Anyways, archivetron's url snarf has been temporarily disabled for obvious reasons. Will resume once I plug these holes tonight
douchebag: I appreciate that, feel free to reimburse it though haha
mircea_popescu: lol. i was going to buy you the pro yearly package, actually. but since you already have it, no need :D
mircea_popescu: did you spring for teh $350 a year thing ?
douchebag: It's made by a team of people
mircea_popescu: https://portswigger.net/burp/help/collaborator << that burp thing's not even retarded. runs a dummy server on the side, ns, everything.
lobbes: Just know, I'm prolly the easiest target here :P
deedbot: mircea_popescu updated rating of douchebag from 1 to 2 << "your home machine's name is lobbes"
douchebag: Yeah no problem, it was pretty fun to discover
lobbes: douchebag really though, this has been a wake up call to get my shit together. Ty again
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i wasn't initially going to say anything besides "nay" ; but hey, pizarro's a friend of ours, so : nsa would sell the spare machine for cost, which is about .371. comes with two fgs installed and free shipping. ☟︎
douchebag: I think it's being passed into bash into a PhantomJS interpreter
mircea_popescu: douchebag umm, you used his ~browser~ to do this ?!
mircea_popescu: lobbes well fine, but i was discussing teh design as such. there's no rule against "i have a crappy box for a server that's not worth placing in a dc so it sits in garage", sure. nor is there any rule against "i just simplified speech, called it homebox, it's not" -- but what you say is all i have to go on, that's all.
lobbes: mircea_popescu: the logs, but it is an old craptop with an ssd dedicated to public toilet Only place I had to store the gbs of archive data.
douchebag: lobbes: If you want to make a secure application, consider all user input as malicious
mircea_popescu: conceptually, if it's talking to you it's an infangwif ; if it's talking to the outside it's an outsidewif. why are you fucking streetwalkers / sending the wife to walk the streets ?
mircea_popescu: why is your home box doing work that's not directed at you ?
lobbes: Oya. Hey, this is the peril of "learning as you go"
mircea_popescu: lobbes fwiw this is very poor design.
lobbes: Yeah really. Thank you for uncovering this (I am n00b, you will soon learn)
lobbes: I'll dig more into it tonight once I'm in front of it all
douchebag: For you, I really do suggest fixing that
lobbes: That is done through a process where a python script reads from (ahhh now I think I see where it may remotely execute) db and passes url via bash to a phantomjs script which submits to archive.is
douchebag: and how are you passing these to archive.is
lobbes: the bot operates from an external vps (not my home ip). Shoves urls into a db which my home box downloads and then passes eaxh one to archive.is.
douchebag: lobbes: How often does the bot search ?
douchebag: Are any of these things being manually passed into bash commands
lobbes: Also not 100% positive if that was my home ip, but charlotte nc is my residence. I'll confirm that tonight
douchebag: I'll show you how to fix it
douchebag: Can you send me links to the scripts ?
douchebag: If you didn't do this last night
lobbes: Hmm interesting. Yeah this was a few weeks ago iirc when I curiously grabbed one of yer payloads via wget
douchebag: on something that looked like that
lobbes: Actually, when was this? I think I may hace manually wgot
douchebag: or on the link???
douchebag: Oh shit, and you never manually ran wget on that IP
lobbes: douchebag aha I think that is my home ip. Plox do test payload again
douchebag: Alright, give me a moment I just didn't want to bother anyone with my payloads
BingoBoingo: Best case it's just the FBI and they are too busy chasing imaginary Russians to notice you walking away with their server
douchebag: It it okay if I test this payload again right now
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-04-03 15:01 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-03#1792252 << there is still time to turn back from nubbinsing, shinohai
a111: Logged on 2018-04-03 15:29 shinohai: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-4-3#324728 << one could also behave a bit more becoming of a "Lord" and wait until official defrocking occurs before leading the negrate charge?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-03#1792298 << what do these two have to do with each other anyway. there should be a difference between doing wrong and not doing enough. not every burgher can be in the town council, that dun mean he's bankrupt now or something, what the hell. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-03 15:24 douchebag: no clue, I just checked the logs and saw that lolz.txt was grabbed via wget
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-03#1792296 << oh don't be silly. i now concur with alf, this is no indication of anything yet. get it to do it systematically, in reaction to something you control, THEN you have maybe something. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: vulnerable home computers are pestilentially common ; did you get to the portion in the logs where we logged into a shitton of servers administering solar panels ?
mircea_popescu: but very distantly read. it's a perl meatgrinder, i'm sure it misses most of the meat.
asciilifeform: y'know it's still 'read' if you put it through meatgrinder ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-03 15:07 asciilifeform: this is possibly foreign concept in 'web' world, but over here in the adult world people , for instance, read logs. every day.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-03#1792286 << i very well fucking don't. jesus christ, 1mn+ lines/day, god help me. i catgrep the item now and again, but the odds of me noticing something in there are pretty slim. ☝︎
lobbes: Re: douchebag's recent wget payload: I can confirm that it most likely wasn't my archivebot. The bot doesn't download links directly, it stores list of urls found in chan and forwards them to the archive.is submit form
mircea_popescu has noticed over the years that the usage of screen is a sort of pons asinorum in computer usage. like the oil rag cloth in a car distinguishes pisi tourist from the driver who actually maintains the machinery ; or like condoms on the nightstand distinguish the woman from the girl and so on.
lobbes is slowly assembling parts for his own home trb node. Waiting on replacement cpu fan to come in atm. Updates to follow!
douchebag: It seemed to be out of North Carolina if I remember correctly
douchebag: I did do a reverse search on that IP address though
mircea_popescu: a ok then.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/dangerous/ << Trilema - Dangerous
douchebag: Actually, I exited out of that - I'm able to retrieve it but I need to know the proper request to send. waiting on a response from that right now
douchebag: I need to get the boxes full IP
mircea_popescu: time will tell you everything.
mircea_popescu: not entirely intractable to discern whether human is involved or not.
mircea_popescu: this is a theory we can easily verify. douchebag write f2c26beed4 on the boxes' tits or something. can you get it reliably ?
asciilifeform: ... but in this case, wasn't mine. and, interestingly, apparently not trinque either
asciilifeform: asciilifeform's observation was that every idjit crapartist probing an asciilifeform-tended box , ever, without exception thought 'ooh, my wget ran' when asciilifeform reads log , and then , on specially-designated box, manually probes back & grabs payload