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trinque: when I had a cat it killed things all the time, for fun.
adlai: the child should have been spanked! you don't just go around letting your kids kill things, without a little flick on the butt
adlai: aha looks like trinque is pulling a ben_vulpes ?
adlai: mircea_popescu: that is such a terrible story, the child should have been spanked for chiccicide
nubbins`: davout you have a 21.co? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: school hadn't yet started, so we were prolly 6 or so. but this was a rare concept even at that age.
mircea_popescu: my earliest memory of him is, we were in some rural setting, dun recall whose grandparents, and we had chicks (kids get young hatchlings to play with in the time and place, it's a time-honored tradition like getting your toddler one of those dingly noise things to put above the crib or w/e)
mircea_popescu had a friend, and a fine fellow he was, who unfortunately died young. but we were friends from childhood
mircea_popescu: for actual emperors. not for fuckrags a la obama, but for actual emperors.
asciilifeform: no phriend-who-owes-him-a-block-of-flats either !
mircea_popescu: i did build and burn a number of fortunes, but in my younger years. nevertheless : you know, peter ALSO didn't HAVE TO take the imperial guard with.
asciilifeform: but mircea_popescu nailed it, 'get on the boat with the shirt on yer back' is a kind of death-lite-version
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu this is a country where , i suspect, most folks' retirement plan is a .45 !
asciilifeform: they suicide at drop of a hat!
asciilifeform: destroying the keys would be a start.
asciilifeform: and if he had a pin to pull, the nazis would have nothing.
mircea_popescu: to a point.
asciilifeform: so - usg can build, if pressed, machines. ~whereas~ existing coinbases they can only reallocate, save a ecdsa break, by knocking people over the head. which is loud and somewhat costly.
asciilifeform: 'from now on we sit on all we steal so we can dump in a decade' ?
assbot: 119 results for 'waterfall' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=waterfall
asciilifeform: the available evidence suggests that, like a bike thief, they steal to ~sell~
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ask a question ?
mircea_popescu: see, the beauty of this is that it is a TRUE soft fork.
mircea_popescu: ie, give nodes a way to make money for cpu usage.
assbot: The necessary prerequisite for any change to the Bitcoin protocol on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1UyRBjA )
mircea_popescu: so your idea is, that we of course continue to maintain trb as is, but also develop a keccak pow variant, for use in case of forks ? or vice-versa, in case of forks develop it ?
mircea_popescu: yes, schelling point to continue, yes with the same idiots/geniuses as before, and thus at a lower adoption interest.
adlai: aha, here's the misunderstanding. my proposal was not a pow switch.
adlai: well what do i go on about? ultimately the whole hard/soft thing is a terrible terminology, verging on false dichotomy.
adlai: breaking consensus is a hard fork. narrowing it - soft.
adlai: asciilifeform: it's an idea because it means that the "#b-a fork" isn't a hard-fork that can fail.
asciilifeform: wtf is a 'miner-only fork'
assbot: The necessary prerequisite for any change to the Bitcoin protocol on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1UyPaxv )
adlai: which is possible to launch as a miner-only fork, which nodes can choose to enforce, but don't have to; and then at some later date, all nodes enforce it, and miners know they must keep enforcing it, too.
adlai: asciilifeform: mircea's suggestion is implementable as a soft fork.
mircea_popescu: i dunno wtf i shoulda done different so this happened a week ago rather than now.
asciilifeform: the only thing i would change is to retain old capital distribution, then keccak has a chance at continuing old schellingpoint.
adlai: asciilifeform: "port" in the loose sense of the word. let's rephrase that as "some poor code monkey should write a keccak vpatch for trb, but nobody should ever have to use it"
mircea_popescu: the entire thing was, we should take stock of the situation, and make some judgements and plan some plans in a complete and responsible manner.
adlai: but i don't think trb should initiate a fork.
adlai: mircea_popescu: hmmm. ok, this is a valid question, my answer to which is: port Luke-Jr's keccak reset from "classic" to trb, and be ready to activate it, should a fork occur.
mircea_popescu: there's a difference between "i know x" and "i don't know x".
adlai: so you're specifically suggesting a "reset PoW" fork?
mircea_popescu: adlai wouldja think for a moment ? if miners fork tomorrow, pre-miner-fork trb will not be defensible. because bitfury (you know, kakobrekla's friends) have access to vc capital, and will bridge the gap between us printing press and chinese mining.
asciilifeform: but we have, e.g., a spiffy mircea_popescutronic item from last month
adlai: there is no spoon, nor a fork. there is a knife, and it lowers kelvin.
asciilifeform: or introduction of material from either into a future trb
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: any alignment with a usg-enriching or dimon-enabling phork
adlai: yet a precise interferometer is about as feasible as a trustworthy kyristor
thestringpuller: why open a nice school in the ghetto, if it'll just get defaced two weeks later?
mircea_popescu: this "doesn't interfere" thing's a pregnant fiction.
mircea_popescu: well, money's a whore, kinda old by now, consequently keeps changing her attire.
thestringpuller: sure why not live in ignorance. get your 8.50/hr from CVS, blow it on rent, pot and booze, continue on. no incentive for agency. just a programmable cog.
adlai tried explaining bitcoin to a flatmate, seven different ways. each time explanation was met with "why can't people just use money". known idiot is now a former-flatmate.
mircea_popescu: (no, no, intelligence is not a THING. it is a behaviour. like dancing.)
mircea_popescu: intelligence is an adaptive behaviour ; which is why anyone with a clue would rather spend the time chatting up a random whore or street urchin than some jewish princess or "young exec". ☟︎
thestringpuller: you ever read mimsy and the borogoves? short sci-fi story by Lewis Padgett (a pseudonym for CL Moore and some other person that wrote as a duo) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: a coffee table book about coffee tables!
thestringpuller: for instance the coffee table book about coffee tables that can turn into a coffee table
thestringpuller: admittedly Kramer is pretty much a modern VC wet dream. some of the stuff he sells that's "successful" is just...
thestringpuller: "Meanwhile, Kramer buys a police scanner and decides to help at the New York City Fire Department. When they receive a call about the fire at Leapin' Larry's, Kramer accidentally knocks out the fire engine driver, forcing him to take the wheel, realizing his lifelong dream. However, he is unable to steer correctly and crashes the fire engine, allowing the fire to spread further."
mircea_popescu: in roadtrip they go "we gotta take the weirdo - he has a car".
mircea_popescu: nobody goes "i'm going to hire joe, he's kinda meh but he has a kickass workstation!".
mircea_popescu: might as well say "it's because pogos", which would be equally flattering just in a different direction and otherwise equally afield.
mircea_popescu: which, ungenerously enough, seems just a step away from the breakdown specific to shitholes like argentina, where people altogether don't even comprehend words are in any sense meaningful, above and beyond the chirping captive populations of chickens do to reassure each other. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: ow english speaker even realises there's a disconnect between what the words mean and what his actions do.
massiro: Thank you BingoBoingo for giving me a voice!
massiro: I have written a (small) wall of text at http://dpaste.com/22W2SCE, regarding the causes of the payout problem.
davout: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-03-2016#1433535 <<< did someone ring? someone need a loan? ☝︎
phf: it has a very pro-american/anti-communist bias (and there's a very surprising, complete lack of any SU mentions), but full of fascinating stories of vc tunnel based warfare
assbot: Amazon.com: The Tunnels of Cu Chi: A Harrowing Account of America's Tunnel Rats in the Underground Battlefields of Vietnam (9780891418696): Tom Mangold: Books ... ( http://bit.ly/1pKstuP )
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu have a mindphuck - turns out google admits to having jacked up the cpu core count after the single solitary lee sedol win.
assbot: Logged on 15-03-2016 23:05:37; BingoBoingo: I suspect it will have to graduate from a pogo to an "edgerouter lite" sometime in the next few months.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-03-2016#1433530 << don't use the vendor's os. for anything. unless whole thing is a gag gift to an enemy. ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-03-2016#1433613 << dingdingdingding we have a winner !11 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 16-03-2016 01:28:59; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform something like "here's a list of my deepest unrelated fears" ?
adlai: mircea_popescu: i found it and submitted a second comment, but both seem to have caught in the lo-pass
assbot: Logged on 17-02-2016 12:54:09; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-02-2016#1408030 << it had own genesis to establish pedigree with the historic tinyscheme. but shiva is a patch that bridges it into the trb tree. and yes i rebased it, it works with the current trb.
assbot: xkcd on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/22iTC9C )
trinque: http://dpaste.com/10P5WN7.txt << yeah, it appears I may be missing a patch
mircea_popescu: trinque iirc it was a little ambiguous because bot ha standalone and a bitcoin-derived shiva set
assbot: The necessary prerequisite for any change to the Bitcoin protocol on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1XtSE3K )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform something like "here's a list of my deepest unrelated fears" ? ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 15-03-2016 23:43:35; mircea_popescu: perhaps now is a good time to bring up http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-03-2016#1428463 for another pass through ?
assbot: Logged on 10-03-2016 15:47:10; asciilifeform: surrender is not a strategy.
assbot: Logged on 15-03-2016 23:43:35; mircea_popescu: perhaps now is a good time to bring up http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-03-2016#1428463 for another pass through ?
assbot: Logged on 10-03-2016 10:43:46; mircea_popescu: in any case we should prolly have a strategy discussion here. paging mod6 asciilifeform jurov trinque phf an' the other interested parties.
mircea_popescu: perhaps now is a good time to bring up http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-03-2016#1428463 for another pass through ? ☝︎☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: the credits certainly look like a 70s sexploitation thing ; music idem.
mircea_popescu: btw danielpbarron here's a nice idea for article : step by step guide to run your own wp on pogo.
BingoBoingo: I guess #b-a is the most ecumenical religious gathering around
BingoBoingo: Or he'll have to graduate from Wordpress and lead #b-a to a new blogware planet
BingoBoingo: I suspect it will have to graduate from a pogo to an "edgerouter lite" sometime in the next few months. ☟︎
phf: soviet joke. americans purchase a sukhoi airplane from soviets, comes in parts, there's assembly instructions though. so they go through the process, result is a working tractor. wtf. they break it down, assemble again, tractor again. so they call russian, "wtf, tried assembling all we get is a tractor", su responds "please read fine print, `the product needs to be finalized with a judicial application of hammer and file`"
assbot: A Werewolf Problem in Central Russia and Other Stories ... ( http://bit.ly/1QVPDbN )
assbot: A Werewolf Problem in Central Russia: Victor Pelevin, Andrew Bromfield: 9780811218603: Amazon.com: Books ... ( http://bit.ly/1RMsuVC )
phf: pelevin actually has a short story "Prince of Gosplan" about that period of eu history (there's an en translation http://www.amazon.com/Werewolf-Problem-Central-Russia/dp/0811218600/)
jurov: lol so then my education was started by trying to free conventional memory by moving a virus to the highmem
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo incidentally, since you're maybe the only guy here that actually gas re us politics : admitting for the sake of this argument that trump really is the you know, tell-it-how-it-is, fight back against the system independent bla bla : what does the fact that he isn't making "electronic votes are not a sufficient way to settle this election" a central part of his campaign ?
mircea_popescu: like it or not - the prince of persia curricula is how a country the size of oregon ended up providing half the engineers hired by microsoft.