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asciilifeform: but point was, i bet monkey cannot actually conceive of the 'no hardcoded seed thing'
asciilifeform: i think that a more elementary thing is at work - these folks literally can't imagine a box other than 'ubuntu', rathead, etc. with 'autoupdater' and the like
mircea_popescu: but, as any rapist knows, the best thing for that trade is a ready supply of victims who will deny the deed. "i was never raped!11"
mircea_popescu: and how badly the butt hurt once i fucked them raw.
asciilifeform: not sure what came after that, it was when i quit reading
asciilifeform: i thought that was perl
asciilifeform: (the folks who laughed when i said 'no curl on trb build box' - still laughing ?) ☟︎
asciilifeform: hey i specialize in uselessly predicting crapocalypses years before they happen. ☟︎
asciilifeform: last thing i will say for now on subj is - expect many more 'rowhammer'-like effects as desperate wunderwaffen attempts to resuscitate 'moore's law' explore new depths of fuhrerbunker desperation.
asciilifeform: but as far as i can tell, it is no longer manufactured in any serious quantity.
asciilifeform: any of the off-the-shelf ones, as far as i can tell
mircea_popescu: no i meant - if something being more vapor than elbrus were possible
asciilifeform: (i can't recall if this was public, but IT IS NOW!111)
asciilifeform: one of the reasons i wrote 'g' (which remains unreleasable, ty mircea_popescu for the block cipher lulz, aha) is that the public node is not a sustainable thing.
mircea_popescu: i have no problem giving food and water to wandering females.
phf: debord wrote this in 67, he then wrote an update in the 80s, "everything has gotten even worse then i expected", promptly shooting himself
hanbot: i suspect the recognition that things can actually be useful rather than superficially ego-satisfying is a more and more rare occurrence. or by now, ability. which explains a lot of the stupidity, but doesn't excuse it.
hanbot: "review". aka "say anonderp, i'm having trouble fitting my pretensions and emotional minutiae in a finite space. would you ask me how i feel about shit and host the results?"
asciilifeform: i'ma off to drink motor oil coffee, eat shit, and crank out useless crud for money
mircea_popescu: i shall be off to eat a lot of cake and meditate.
asciilifeform: hence why i always said to mircea_popescu, 'webdev is insignificant worm and webdevers are not programmers'
mircea_popescu: much to my chagrin, neither do i. it is at best an experience-bound heuristic atm.
asciilifeform: i realized that i actually have nfi what mircea_popescu's size metric is here
mircea_popescu: i suppose the one neutral construction here would be that the larger the item under discussion, the more likely you are to credit ability and the less likely to credit happenstance, on the expectation that size and competency correlate.
asciilifeform: well, i can identify who gives a fuck re: pwning crapple users - 1,000,001 orc carder monkeys, for instance
asciilifeform: not precisely. re: qntra, i specifically think that the 'they don't exist, don't look there, nothing to see' field generator is operating so well, that they no longer see any need to draw attention with ddos.
asciilifeform: will have to find out, what. when i can be arsed.
asciilifeform: i admit that my crappleology is a few yrs out of date.
mircea_popescu: i never heard of retardation being an effectual preemptor of infection.
mircea_popescu: i thought theres one a week.
mircea_popescu: i don't care about apple products altogether.
mircea_popescu: well no, i'd expect you to run musl-os
asciilifeform: i run openbsd ?
asciilifeform: say i replace apple's cpu with samsung's hypothetical pin-compatible one. now what ?
asciilifeform: am i mistaken re: what the discussion even was ?
asciilifeform: i expect that at some point it will be fused with the lcd glass
phf: also ftr i've never had a paid license. even without it developer.apple.com used to have all kinds of goodies. source code for all their opensource parts, legacy software, old version of xcode, various specialist tools for debugging, etc.
asciilifeform: i.e. not removable without ir oven and not remountable without xray.
mircea_popescu: next time babe goes into the bath with her phone in hand, ima look into the damned thing i guess.
mircea_popescu: i guess ima have to.
mircea_popescu: speaking of nintendo, i recall a thriving mod chip industree just about the time the bulgarians were taking over cd pressing.
mircea_popescu: well, fwiw i find the conversation very instructive.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i admittedly have no clue, but i'd have expected the golden route is to simply replace the blessed chip of blessings with normal item.
mircea_popescu: i shall now be quiet while alf, who has never set foot in california, proceeds to explain to people who live there how the place is. ☟︎
jurov: even i could not be arsed to mess with moms ipad
PeterL: I assume so, most iphnoe owners are lazy, right?
mats: heh... overheard in palo alto bar shortly after new years: 'so i'm trying to choose between Harvard Law, Stanford Law, and Palantir... what do you think i should do? ;)'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i get that part, but i meant you as in phf not you as in look what i found on reddit, even has tits.
asciilifeform: when i say 'nintendo' this is what it means.
mircea_popescu: i'm only very marginally following it.
asciilifeform: on ipnohe, the loader only loads signed bins. and the crapplestore only hosts same. i thought this was well known.
mircea_popescu: yeah i c.
mircea_popescu: i dun follow ?
phf: (in other apple is dead not so news, i logged into a developer account in hopes of grabbing xcode dmg's direct instead of going through apple store, and oh boy. what used to be a rather spartan list of downloads, docs, resources has turned into "Click your iPhone app into Apple Store! Anyone can do it!" complete with giant banners of hip womens holding iphones. where's the docs? where's all the shit? literally the only thing you can do
mircea_popescu: and nobody i ever met retires to palo alto. have you EVEN SEEN the place ?
asciilifeform: ~now~ i'm lost
asciilifeform: actually i have a very clear model of how orcs relate to humans
mircea_popescu: actually i have nfi why it's not required study for syustems people.
asciilifeform: the answer, as far as i can see, is that usg has the politburo in both cases by the balls, they all have swiss accounts 'which could have problems' if they don't play ball.
mircea_popescu: let me give you an example : when i was 16, i was paying rent for a place i practically never used, to a married mother of two. who took it in all the holes like a champ, twice a week.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i would propose this is not so, nobody actually PAYS the us for ip. merely subsidiaries repatriate capital under that guise.
mircea_popescu: sounds good phf. ftr i dun think there was anything wrong with your thing per se. broke an assumption i made that i still don't well understanbd, so... it counts as a positive.
phf: (so to wrap up previous thread, patches will remain, until clicking any patch in that graph produces a press, ideally clicking on one of the patches from mod6 release should produce press identical to mod6's press even in the presence of conflicting patches. i'll solve this problem sometime this week)
mircea_popescu: i'm vaguely unsure if it can be called a civ or not.
mircea_popescu: i've been thinking about this ever since then
mircea_popescu: i had, because i expected the thing to work in terms of straight url substitution.
asciilifeform: phf: i see the rationale, but you keeping these on www right alongside the working versions, is quite certain to confuse folks.
assbot: Logged on 17-02-2016 02:44:08; phf: (my press is still broken though, because i want to have all the patches that were ever produced in there, even the conflicting ones, and simply throwing them into a pile seems to not work. i'll figure it out sometime this week)
mircea_popescu: and yes, i am aware that you're thinking you're decent people, and your friends idem, and you'll toil and labour and this can't all be to waste. the thing you're not aware of is that i have friends like that in say togo. ever heard of togo ? and had friends like that in lebanon years ago, and so on.
mircea_popescu: but, fortunately for it, the us has nothing to offer. it'd be an active safari grounds for live slaves, if the women weren't generally ugly and universally fat. it is being raided to shit by indian/chinese people for whatever shreds of prestige it may have left, tho from what i hear us diplomas are becoming 2nd rate in beijing these days. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: which is what i expect to see.
PeterL: I guess my question is: will other countries actively attack the US?
mircea_popescu: last i heard germany only wanted 5k a head, so it should come out to maybe 50bn or so, not the end of the world
mircea_popescu: retarded euros on the other hand... "us posturing precipitated an immigration influx that we reallty can't support. wat do ?" "i dunno, but try to not notice that the us-provided security costs a degree or two of magnitude more than the worst possible case would be without them around"
shinohai: https://i.imgur.com/PBnAnZw.png
PeterL: I could go back to my ancestral homeland, but I hear England sucks more than US now
mircea_popescu: now replace "i materialize out of the ethers and offer well trained young slave" with "any discretionary expense" and you've got a pretty accurate picture.
mircea_popescu: consider this simple point : so i materialize out of the ethers and offer well trained young slave to us kid, for $sum. how can he pay ? he can't. he has no money, the usual way he pays for things (begs daddy-government's agent, called "bank" for absolutely no reason much like fast-food is unrelated to food, being a species of engine oil) does not work for this purpose. what's left ? we just discussed how he can not do
PeterL: I have decided to stay here, so I will just have to deal with that decision
davout: i'd be very happy with such an answer, i could simply display "Fees on our end are $x, see with your bank for fees on your side"
mircea_popescu: i dunno how you feel about arab girls, but a trip to bahrein is in order.
davout: either way i'll ask the question a bit more formally, and ask about outgoing non-sepa wires too could be useful since i don't plan on ever becoming a victim of my own success
mircea_popescu: i'm telling you , advise us partners to either a) get an eu entity incorporated and use that or b) be less poor, as applicable.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-02-2016#1408153 << you know, i don't salt my food. i merely add chlorine and sprinkle some sodium on top. ☝︎
davout: not too often that i can say "a boy i'd fuck"
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-02-2016#1408126 << you know that's almost exactly what i mean by "built like a boy" ☝︎
davout: i'd guess more around 20~30 €, i'll ask around
jurov: i am not speaking of usians with own dirigibles here
mircea_popescu: (no i don't mean redditards, i mean people with jobs, jerry! and secretatries.)
mircea_popescu: jurov i don't think by now any usian is without eu banking.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-02-2016#1408095 << what is this crud - x86, and i7 no less, the one with the hidden nsa core, wtf, if i wanted this, could walk into any shop on the planet and buy. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 17-02-2016 05:16:04; mircea_popescu: i recall it had its own genesis.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-02-2016#1408030 << it had own genesis to establish pedigree with the historic tinyscheme. but shiva is a patch that bridges it into the trb tree. and yes i rebased it, it works with the current trb. ☝︎☟︎
phf: i added simple hash navigation to btcbase
pete_dushenski: and unrelated news that i wish were related https://49.media.tumblr.com/dfeb8d3d74d56b42e20a03c0b18adc87/tumblr_o0pri49FVK1v0wc8oo2_400.gif
punkman: phf, seems so. my initial suggestion was releases as patch sequence files, but I don't think anyone liked this idea. My vtron does .seq files with "foo.vpatch \t sha512(foo.vpatch) \n" inside, which works for my blobby vtronized things.
pete_dushenski: but i guess there can't be ~that~ many pics of abdullah pounding white poon in the back of his open-air 600 landaulet
mircea_popescu: for instance, i took rhetorics with the worlds best rhetorics teacher, no doubt about it. she gave me an 80%, which was by far my lowest mark that year, but then again a good 20% over the next best in the 800 strong year.
mircea_popescu: i dun think there exists even today the romanian speaker who a) is competent in the sense contemplated here and b) actually applies for a job, any job.
mircea_popescu: punkman well, let's see what the others say. i faintly dislike the idea on morale grounds, but it's not the end of the world ☟︎