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phf: there's a very vocal minority trying to get it into emacs as a replacement for elisp, you'll have an elisp emulation layer, but you can also have javascript emulation layer!!1 ☟︎
asciilifeform: it is a turd incidentally
asciilifeform: used as a tinyscheme of sorts
asciilifeform: i started actually making a systematic list of exclusions, then barfed, really we want to enumerate ~good~ parts, they are few
assbot: Logged on 20-03-2016 13:53:13; mircea_popescu: ;;later tell koinplug a) mpex also uses undisclosed addresses in special cases ; b) we have some old fixed-price contracts with some users who renew their key periodically.
assbot: Logged on 20-03-2016 14:54:42; *: trinque has a similarly neutered personal recipe
asciilifeform: need own controller, or a cooperating one (e.g., northgate's)
asciilifeform: it desperately needs a cure
assbot: Logged on 20-03-2016 15:04:05; phf: also anyone tried doing a kernel level key rebind before? is that just in config or you need to patch source. i want to switch some keys around, but i don't want to have to do it for every single userland environment
assbot: Logged on 20-03-2016 15:02:08; phf: asciilifeform: did you manage to get emacs to build on musl gentoo? (i.e. does the musl patches overlay include a solution for temacs dump process)
phf: also anyone tried doing a kernel level key rebind before? is that just in config or you need to patch source. i want to switch some keys around, but i don't want to have to do it for every single userland environment ☟︎
phf: asciilifeform: did you manage to get emacs to build on musl gentoo? (i.e. does the musl patches overlay include a solution for temacs dump process) ☟︎
trinque has a similarly neutered personal recipe ☟︎
danielpbarron: is mine one of the two? The box I'm using to test trb had already been a sane gentootron
assbot: Logged on 20-03-2016 06:27:49; phf: i've managed a reiserfs/lilo combo, though genkernel claims that it doesn't work with reiserfs. uclibc vanilla failed on chroot step, ifconfig and all the other networking bits refused to work. perhaps i needed to grab a uclibc iso? in any case i proceeded witha glibc install for now
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-03-2016#1436574 << most folks boot off a small (<=128m) ext3 for this reason ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 20-03-2016 06:25:18; phf: ok, not sure if anybody tried yet, but asciilifeform's gentoo chicken works as prescribed. in fact i tried installing unknown package that turned out to have a hard poettering dependency, and gentoo refused to proceed
shinohai: dafuq is a gentoo chicken
mircea_popescu: phf> ok, not sure if anybody tried yet, but asciilifeform's gentoo chicken works as prescribed << it does, yes, and it IS a very good and useful thing. almost makes me feel bad when mocking linuxen. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell koinplug a) mpex also uses undisclosed addresses in special cases ; b) we have some old fixed-price contracts with some users who renew their key periodically. ☟︎
punkman: yeah not sure about that, maybe someone got a discount?
assbot: MPEx (S.MPOE) February 2016 Statement on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1UI1ETH )
phf: i've managed a reiserfs/lilo combo, though genkernel claims that it doesn't work with reiserfs. uclibc vanilla failed on chroot step, ifconfig and all the other networking bits refused to work. perhaps i needed to grab a uclibc iso? in any case i proceeded witha glibc install for now ☟︎
phf: ok, not sure if anybody tried yet, but asciilifeform's gentoo chicken works as prescribed. in fact i tried installing unknown package that turned out to have a hard poettering dependency, and gentoo refused to proceed ☟︎
phf: installing gentoo is a special form of sadomasochism.
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mod6: And beyond that, as you were saying, it didn't get oomkill'd, just kept right along going. i think you're right, we should throw a fatal exception in the event of oom.
mod6: at minimum that could point a person in the right direction to find #b-a discussions in the log about said topic.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-03-2016#1436543 << there is no provision for anything of the kind in trb, beyond the barbaric expedient of a tx which throws exception during processing simply not being stored ☝︎
thestringpuller: ah. yea. I'm running on debian jessie a core 2 duo machine (older but not super old). but everytime thing gets "up to date" it stops asking for blocks
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: do you have a solution for "stuck node" phenonemon?
asciilifeform: i could even see a suspend-on-oom
asciilifeform: what kind of liquid shit does a designer need to have for brains, or an os that allows this ?
asciilifeform: and in fact oom ought to be handled in the exception catcher as a fatal
asciilifeform: but a node that has experienced it cannot be assumed to be in a consistent state
hanbot: en if doing a quick lookup later
hanbot: so mod6 & anyone else interested in that shortlogs idea (http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-03-2016#1434765): i've been trying out two versions of shortening; one trimmed of off-topic and nontechnical commentary, the other with any relevant line/argument summarized. a possibly substantial problem i see with either of these is that the accompanying philosophical discourse, esp from mircea_popescu, is probably mandatory for comprehension, ev ☝︎
assbot: Loper OS » Vectored Signatures, or the Elements of a Possible V-Algebra. ... ( http://bit.ly/1pQWk4X )
mircea_popescu: 3% in 1000 ad, 97% in 1930s. today's israel has a fake 5 or 10% or somesuch, made mostly of retirees and plastics.
assbot: Logged on 19-03-2016 14:32:50; mircea_popescu: anyway. in the meantime the heat of battle forged a very different israel, which i suppose can lay claim to continuance. but it is in very few significant points continuing my notion of jewish.
assbot: 8 results for 'resistance of the medium' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=resistance+of+the+medium
mircea_popescu: anyway. in the meantime the heat of battle forged a very different israel, which i suppose can lay claim to continuance. but it is in very few significant points continuing my notion of jewish. ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: a pt barnum version.
phf: i'm waiting for western ashkenazim to start embracing persecution as a status symbol, kind of like how affirmative action devalued blacks in workforce, this is the opposite. was a bit of a thing in su, in some professions (anything related to mil for example) if you were known to be of jewish descent (you wouldn't be on paper, but "people talk") it was also kind of assumed that you were whicked smart to get in
assbot: Challenging Mathematical Problems With Elementary Solutions, Vol. 1: A. M. Yaglom, I. M. Yaglom: 0800759655366: Amazon.com: Books ... ( http://bit.ly/1RsYEVG )
phf: asciilifeform: and since when does that thing exist in engl?! << http://www.amazon.com/dp/0486655369 has a bunch of nifty looking books in "customers who bought"
mircea_popescu: it has a splendid statement of cauchy's binding of riemann zeta terms among other goodies.
mircea_popescu: btw, apropos of nothing in particular : Nonelementary Problems in an Elementary Exposition, A & I Yaglom.
gribble: Error: "goxlag" is not a valid command.
asciilifeform: l0l i think this is a record
gribble: Metropolitan (1990 film) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_(1990_film)>; Metropolitan (1990) - IMDb: <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0100142/>; Whit Stillman's 'Metropolitan' 25 Years Later: How it Bec | Indiewire: <http://www.indiewire.com/article/whit-stillmans-metropolitan-25-years-later-how-it-become-a-surprise-indie-hit-20150806>
mircea_popescu: i do not recall a single instance of a nude or nude-tolerant place where fat people voluntarily attempted to participate.
asciilifeform: must be a midwest plague
asciilifeform: where is any of this a thing ?!
BingoBoingo: Basically, Beetus Bitch Betty and her fold mold scare you USians into a clothed state
asciilifeform: speaking of BingoBoingo's horror shows, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grain_entrapment#/media/File:OSHA_grain_entrapment_illustration.jpg is interesting and brings to mind a beloved childhood physics text
mircea_popescu: "Whit Stillman was born in 1952 and raised in Cornwall in upstate New York, the son of a impoverished débutante from Philadelphia and a Democratic politician from Washington D.C."
asciilifeform has nfi, does not own a torch long enough to cut through the ten layers of wall between him and even nearest window from which lizards might be seen when the planets align.
asciilifeform: reads like a demented version of mircea_popescu's 'asylum' ?!
mircea_popescu: anyway, it has everything, including a fucktard who proposes to name themselves "urban haute bourgeoisie"
asciilifeform: 'In an apartment on Manhattan a couple of friends from the New York upper-class meet almost every night to talk about social mobility, play bridge and discuss Fourier's socialism; the cynic Nick, the philosophical Charlie, party girl Sally and austenite Audrey. They are joined by Tom. His background is much simpler and he is critical of their way of life. But he finds a soul mate in Audrey, who without his knowledge falls in l
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: someone's gotta take a hit for the team
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: You gotta remember at one point I was able to appreciate the sports stuff that didn't suck for a while. Now I just drink tears as it tears itself appart.
joecool: how is everyone? been a while since i frequented here
danielpbarron: a fat picker?? mega-surprise that went on for more than two weeks.
assbot: A deathfat coworker is losing a leg because of me. | fatpeoplehate ... ( http://bit.ly/1UbtNUM )
asciilifeform: well, i originally wanted to turn it into a prime and embed as exponent !
assbot: Logged on 18-03-2016 21:34:13; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-03-2016#1436264 << really the problem is that it adds unwarranted complexity. so now we have more bits, yay. do they do anything ? notrly. well if you're going to hire a fortune teller, hire the cheapest not the best. but this aside - the problem you raise is very much a problem, and altogether this thing will have to be worked on moar.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-03-2016#1436289 << originally when i wrote this down some months ago on paper i had a very 'cheap fortuneteller', 4 bits ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 18-03-2016 21:29:18; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-03-2016#1436219 << not at all, i think it's a step in the right direction. i think it also needs more thinking/discussion, but anyway.
asciilifeform: so no protocol is claimed, it is explicitly a promise.
mircea_popescu: the totality of thoughts thought is a legitimate application of pen to paper, is it not.
assbot: Logged on 18-03-2016 21:24:35; mircea_popescu: "The latter act conveys very little useful information, and no permanent sealed record remains of the effort taken to actually understand the patch. This is a Bad Thing" << the thing with this asciilifeform is that on the surface i feel very moved by the notion ; but upon examination it seems to devolve into a sort of enumerating badness ?
assbot: Logged on 18-03-2016 19:59:21; asciilifeform: my internal mp also says 'just because you have a pistol which knows how to fire bullets at people you don't like, it does not follow that there must also exist an antipistol which sucks out bullets from people you like'
assbot: Logged on 18-03-2016 19:34:15; asciilifeform: in particular, i believe that satoshi's turd is an abomination and is barely fit for any use at all, and ought to be discarded as soon as a politically reliable alternative exists - but there is no way to infer this from what patches i have signed.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-03-2016#1436264 << really the problem is that it adds unwarranted complexity. so now we have more bits, yay. do they do anything ? notrly. well if you're going to hire a fortune teller, hire the cheapest not the best. but this aside - the problem you raise is very much a problem, and altogether this thing will have to be worked on moar. ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 18-03-2016 18:23:36; *: asciilifeform prepares a bucket for mircea_popescu to barf into after he reads the 'algebra' piece.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-03-2016#1436219 << not at all, i think it's a step in the right direction. i think it also needs more thinking/discussion, but anyway. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: "The latter act conveys very little useful information, and no permanent sealed record remains of the effort taken to actually understand the patch. This is a Bad Thing" << the thing with this asciilifeform is that on the surface i feel very moved by the notion ; but upon examination it seems to devolve into a sort of enumerating badness ? ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 18-03-2016 17:43:18; phf: other signing method is a microdot pattern, you know, to cover all the bases
trinque: asciilifeform │ he also says 'intellectualizing is evil, fuck a turnip today for good health' << l0l
asciilifeform: he also says 'intellectualizing is evil, fuck a turnip today for good health'
asciilifeform: my internal mp also says 'just because you have a pistol which knows how to fire bullets at people you don't like, it does not follow that there must also exist an antipistol which sucks out bullets from people you like' ☟︎
assbot: 2 results for 'sirens silence' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=sirens+silence
asciilifeform: in particular, i believe that satoshi's turd is an abomination and is barely fit for any use at all, and ought to be discarded as soon as a politically reliable alternative exists - but there is no way to infer this from what patches i have signed. ☟︎
asciilifeform: my internal emulated mircea_popescu has actually convinced me that this whole thing is probably a nonstarter.
asciilifeform: but the gedankenexperiment of course offers no simple answer to this. just a possible component of one.
asciilifeform: but rather it is is more for scenarios that may arise in the dark future, when, say, it becomes necessary to purge material from a disgraced lord, and somehow not burn the world down in a chain reaction while so doing
trinque: Not only are there times when one would like to seal a payload with a caveat of one kind or another, but presently we have no means of conveying disapproval – other than by refraining from sealing. << check it out, a wrath bit
deedbot-: [Loper OS] Vectored Signatures, or the Elements of a Possible V-Algebra. - http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1545
asciilifeform prepares a bucket for mircea_popescu to barf into after he reads the 'algebra' piece. ☟︎
kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-03-2016#1435802 < generally in favour - perhaps the 'actual assets' need a more tight spec? ☝︎
phf: oh my a fresh loper post!
assbot: Loper OS » Vectored Signatures, or the Elements of a Possible V-Algebra. ... ( http://bit.ly/1pQWk4X )
phf: other signing method is a microdot pattern, you know, to cover all the bases ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i guess i'm lucky to be in an engineering-internet. were i in a scholarly-internet it'd be all "mp, potato comes from new world therefore everything is invalid!"
mircea_popescu: would make a pretty great blog topic, you know ? for the numerous bloggers among us constantly looking for stuff to feed the woodchipper with.
asciilifeform: or use a wick.
mircea_popescu: i had but apparently lost a degree of magnitude on the way.
mircea_popescu: what do the things actually draw, half a W or something ?