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trinque: don't see the problem with that.
trinque: yeah, I can vouch for douchebag having asked permission to test deedbot each time, and having committed to telling me what he found.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 11:50 ckang: managed 1gbit switches with layer 3 arent too badly priced
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-18#1801964 << have you been working dc too ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 11:47 ascii_lander: even with 'tag' isolation, a hooligan can still soak up bw on the outgoing pipe, flood the lan, and similar
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-18#1801957 << seems self-evident that'll just get one kicked. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 11:46 ckang: you should atleast be able to do it by switchport and static routing ya
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-18#1801956 << i expect. if it's as terrible as to have utterly no way of enforcing any kind of priviledged downstream, "all boxes you connect to this will forever be able to admin it", then we'll have to make a tmsr switch fw ?! but really, even the cheapest nat router available for $15 from radio shack has the capacity to not permit random box plugged in to alter the settings. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 11:43 ascii_lander: and it would appear that douchebag has already proclaimed ~in advance~ his intention to engage in hooliganisms, and therefore it is not clear to me that we want his business
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-18#1801953 << if this is so, which doesn't meet my books, it nevertheless contradicts practice, where in fact dood's shown himself very willing to follow rules as long as they were explicitly stated. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 11:41 ascii_lander: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-18#1801589 << the current switch does not give the ability to enforce ip assignment; this will require a ~substantially~ more expensive iron
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-18#1801950 << so the idea is that he's not supposed to log into the switch from his box and fuck with ips ? and there's no way to shut this down ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: at least the girls are honest about how they're doing nothing and their life is going nowhere (and for the record, this is as close as an invariant as social science ever produced -- females are way the fuck less inclined to lie to themselves. or to you, for that matter, unless they actually don't like you. but males lie to you BECAUSE they like you, and to themselves, too.)
mircea_popescu: contrary to what the wankers tell themselves, there's exactly no difference, just, the loser girls of millenium 3 do the whole pot/ex/waitress/dancer schtick, whereas the loser boys of millenium 3 do the whole pot/ex/technology/computology schtick
mircea_popescu: " and "gifting their valuable crypto contributions to the world" could not have possibly escaped your notice.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-11 20:43 BHopkins: I think I did it right: 12taDFRdimNTHx1xoUkUZWj3nrE4js6LM6
mircea_popescu: how's http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-12#1797210 or http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-11#1724167 more earned than the http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%22!!pay%22+%220.02%22 set ? to my eye the later seems infinitely more respectable than the former, because a) at least lively enough to be doing something and because b) the similarity between female whores doing bartending/prostitution and the "male" whores doing "computer science ☝︎☝︎
mircea_popescu: now this IS loathsome, and i don't see any merit whatever in offering it any quarter. they find tmsr/eulora/trilema/thelog/whatever "too hard" ? that is ohohohohoh oh-so-fine. someone else, who isn't, will use them as things FOR tmsr/eulora/trilema/thelog/etc. because there's nothing ELSE other than an' besides tmsr/etc.
mircea_popescu: and they are that by personal, wholly owned choice. nobody asked them, or told them, or "made them" act in the specific manner of their subhuman nature, whereby "1. if it's not comfortable ~to me~ i'm 'not interested' because 2. i expect there's enough of us animals around so that 3. under the pressure of our wilful ignorance the republic will be forced to change and adapt." ☟︎
mircea_popescu: they're there, he's harvesting them for a purpose. they will be forever harvested, for this purpose or some other purpose, because THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE. harvestables.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 11:34 ascii_lander: the tits may be functional, but penny-ante scamchiseling is still imho loathesome.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-18#1801945 << you'll have to explain to me the logic of this sometime. is there some expectation that all bipedals are human and made in the similitude of god or something ? animals are animals, whether superficially human or not, form does not trump structure. if they don't have the spark of humanity, which very much IS rsa key etc, then how's he remiss using them exactly as a chunk of wood, pi ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 11:34 ascii_lander: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-18#1801317 << aaand i betcha this is because they're camwhores, and have nfi what is pgp or even that d00d generated a key for'em at all , and he gave the magicstring over voicechat with the camgurls
a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 11:28 ascii_lander: re python, possibly trinque made progress re a depython3ificated portage?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-18#1801939 << i really don't see the problem with it being there per se ; the select-2 mechanism seems sufficient imo. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: phf, terrible fucking habit, at that.
deedbot: http://thetarpit.org/posts/y04/06f-filantropica.html << The Tar Pit - Filantropica
ascii_lander: fought for hours with 'wtf does this box boot up with ro / '
ascii_lander: blew half a day on the following nonsense : excluded 'root' from tar, and this resulted in not only /root , but also /etc/init.d/root being excluded, which is the service that runs at boot to remount / as rw ☟︎
ascii_lander: ben_vulpes: it was a tarring up and untarring of dulap's gentoo, so not so usefully recipeable
ben_vulpes: recipe for that would be neat
ascii_lander: oh btw i should note, i did not end up having to use grub
ben_vulpes: ascii_lander: do check out UY1 at your leisure, i believe it purged of py3 by this method
trinque doesn't approve of this splintering of use flags into various vars, but they did it
ascii_lander: trinque: will have to try this.
trinque: ascii_lander: tried PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7" ?
ascii_lander: i'd like to be 100% rid of p3 on my boxen, if at all practical
ascii_lander: but i hope to be proven wrong about this
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-04-18 11:18 ascii_lander: ( gentoo portage is not the only necessary proggy mired in python3ism. the 'lattice ice' thing , for instance, also )
ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-4-18#338352 << i've never done it on a live system, but setting PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7" and PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python2_7", and rebuilding @world, deep with newuse and then emerge -cav python_3 (or whatever the exact version atom is this week) makes for py3-free gentoo in my limited experience
mod6: mornin' TMSR~
a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 05:10 mircea_popescu: phf, was that an old iron maiden album ?
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-18#1801580 << an old british tv show, the prisoner. it's mildly influential, so bands like to sample dialogue from it ☝︎
lobbesbot: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: !Q later tell ascii_lander http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/6e5Ey/?raw=true
ascii_lander: but the currently-installed pilot plant , is on a conventional switch.
ascii_lander: this being said, i am investigating the most economical way to cook up a switch with isolation : for the 'adult' rockchip cluster ( will hold N of'em, ps, switch , inside a 2U )
ckang: yea im not like a vyos salesman or anything either, it just came to mind
ascii_lander: 'we do not have isolation' is more honest than 'we have cisco-powered isolation' ☟︎
ascii_lander: rather than buying usg-piercable pretense.
ascii_lander: afaik nobody other than cisco and juniper, neither of which i will deal with, sells this item as a prepackaged product.
ckang: what vendor is okay to go with?
ascii_lander: and the fans of a fucking x86 box become a single point of failure ☟︎
ascii_lander: and the bus of a single x86 box becomes a bottleneck
ckang: firewall too
ckang: if you consider the cost being router/switch and avoiding cisco
ascii_lander: do you understand that if it doesn't hold 40 nics, you have no isolation, only pretense ?
ascii_lander: ckang: do you have any idea what a x86 chassis that can hold, e.g., 40 nics, costs ??
ckang: yall building out the routers too?
a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 05:15 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, i dunno, in principle the idea was that pizarro also sells to the general public ; has this changed ? and if you want people to make specific representations, that's one thing, but ~vague~ representations ?
ascii_lander: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-18#1801594 << it was never my impression that we would do business outside of wot. ( can be any depth of wot, but imho to do business entirely outside of wot, is a sin ) ☝︎☟︎
ckang: its actually faster in some benchmarks (compared to pfsense)
ascii_lander: but my current understanding is that we do not yet have this .
ascii_lander: i'ma have to discuss the switch in detail with BingoBoingo
ckang: even do that now*
ckang: most consumer ones even that now
ckang: managed 1gbit switches with layer 3 arent too badly priced ☟︎☟︎
ascii_lander: ( currently we do not use per-user bw caps -- everyone has access to the full pipe for if he needs to burst )
ckang: yea but thats easy enough to detect on the switch
ascii_lander: even with 'tag' isolation, a hooligan can still soak up bw on the outgoing pipe, flood the lan, and similar ☟︎
ckang: you should atleast be able to do it by switchport and static routing ya ☟︎
ascii_lander: ckang: it is my current understanding that the existing gear does not support this; will have to check with BingoBoingo, who installed it and tends it
ckang: can't you use tagged vlans and isolate that way ?
ascii_lander: and it would appear that douchebag has already proclaimed ~in advance~ his intention to engage in hooliganisms, and therefore it is not clear to me that we want his business ☟︎
ascii_lander: the only sensible policy is to proclaim, ahead of time, that any customer found monkeying with the lan , will be banished, with no refunds and no recourse; ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 05:12 ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i do not believe that we have that degree of control over the routing with the current switch, but i'll let asciilifeform/ascii_lander raise the objections
ascii_lander: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-18#1801589 << the current switch does not give the ability to enforce ip assignment; this will require a ~substantially~ more expensive iron ☝︎☟︎
ascii_lander: i will reconnect from there
diana_coman: ascii_lander, ok; when do you estimate getting to dc?
ascii_lander: the tits may be functional, but penny-ante scamchiseling is still imho loathesome. ☟︎
ascii_lander: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-18#1801317 << aaand i betcha this is because they're camwhores, and have nfi what is pgp or even that d00d generated a key for'em at all , and he gave the magicstring over voicechat with the camgurls ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 02:49 trinque: both did this at import http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/3Dg7v/?raw=true
ascii_lander: ( gentoo portage is not the only necessary proggy mired in python3ism. the 'lattice ice' thing , for instance, also )
ascii_lander: re python, possibly trinque made progress re a depython3ificated portage? ☟︎
ascii_lander: this is exactly the kind of thing i meant in 'ask asap for last-minute things'
ascii_lander: as soon as i get into the dc today
ascii_lander: diana_coman: the ssh fp thing is serious oops tho, please give the signal and i reset the machine by hand in singleuser mode and grab the fp for you from the physical console
a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 09:02 diana_coman: !Q later tell ascii_lander fingerprint of server is not included; python is version 3.5.4, ugh
ascii_lander: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-18#1801929 << it is not currently known ( at least to ascii_lander ) how to produce a working gentoo box with portage from past 5y or so that doesnt have python3 on it physically at all. however eselect lets you set 2 as the default ( see https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Python ) ☝︎
lobbesbot: diana_coman: The operation succeeded.
diana_coman: !Q later tell ascii_lander fingerprint of server is not included; python is version 3.5.4, ugh ☟︎
clarissa1: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/DAArLN02/image.jpg sorry so late mircea_popescu - it couldn't upload over cellular so had to find open wifi
mircea_popescu is off to bed. take it easy all!
mircea_popescu: one of the lulziest things in a bar, is sit by the bartender and watch dudes hit on her.
danielpbarron: i hear that same line all the time "don't talk about religion or politics"
kathearin: Is there any problem with bars daniel?
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron, you asked her if she hangs out in bars. "alllll the time!"
danielpbarron: wait is mp the "bartender"?
kathearin: Bartender lol, funny since daniels comment to me
danielpbarron: i guess it originated there, but the places i go are mostly american. one was portugese