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mircea_popescu: if instead you fall into the other mental pit of pantsuit, where you go off by self for lengthy interval and come back with an intricately complex crystal of perfect beauty, odds are it'll get ignored for lack of time to appreciate it.
mircea_popescu: yes, it was. to summarize, careful what you do with your patches, in the following sense : if diana_coman doesn't CONTINUE your patch, it will have to be reground later. as she's a human being with other problems and interests than folding in your alt universe, it helps IMMENSELY if you make your patches small and readable. ☟︎
esthlos: no, was this in past few days? I'm behind
mircea_popescu: esthlos, did you see the recent discussion re polardbeard's sad failure to participate ?
asciilifeform: ( it is apparently possible to write a vtron, and not know what happens when you orphan a branch.. )
asciilifeform: esthlos: i recommend to take vtron and experiment with it until you grasp how it works, it will click in your head quickly
esthlos: aha, so if I want to patch "as close to genesis as possible" the mpi lib, AND I want this patch to be used in diana_coman 's proggy, the ONLY choice is to patch current leaf of diana_coman 's proggy
asciilifeform: naa they're each in own puptent
mircea_popescu: you are not alone, for a big tent's there with you, and all the dumb chicks nobody wants and and aaaaand.
mircea_popescu: don't be too harsh on self ; item is deliberately made in such a way that not-quite-coincidentally is SO VERY CONTRARY to "common wisdom", unwrapping all the corners into head takes a while.
asciilifeform: ( yes, you can 're live history' from 2009, but will have to do it... alone )
esthlos: asciilifeform: this is where, I think, I failed
mircea_popescu: esthlos, it's very centrally how the v mechanism is intended to / works : you get to opt which patch trees to continue, much like in the case of bitcoin.
asciilifeform: esthlos: do you understand that v, deliberately and as a fundamental design choice, has no merging ?
asciilifeform: hmm yea this doesn't fit the style of the other pgs, i'ma make it 1 colour
esthlos: hmm, I did not realize that patching the genesis directly would have those effects on diana_coman 's work
mircea_popescu: the fact that colors alternate by2's which is not necessarily appropriate also adds to the confusion.
asciilifeform: this is the correct picture. i'ma add a legend on top of the tbl.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the column headers do not show in yer browser ?
mircea_popescu: and while "crud never existed" may be tempting from the hallucination-as-font-of-reality pantsuit perspective, it is nevertheless not actually the case.
mircea_popescu: esthlos, you wouldn't make it a patch on genesis unless you were trying to signal your disdain for diana_coman 's work so far.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, you added a new link (on stats page). if someone clicks on that link, he is regaled with a list of unlabeled numbers.
diana_coman: esthlos, there is no such thing as "crud never existed" ; we are not re-writing history here wtf
diana_coman: basically if you change something on which existing patches depend then it breaks, yes; why not put it on existing fully-pressed tree though?
asciilifeform: wtf, why would you put it on genesis, rather than diana_coman's proggy
esthlos: because "crud never existed" might be simpler than "here is crud, now let's remove it"
esthlos: if I make decrudification a patch on the genesis, probably requires no changes to eucrypt vpatch tree. but if it's a new genesis, tree breaks, no?
diana_coman: (we don't have anything else to use so use the pile of shit, yes)
diana_coman: esthlos, well, it ultimately depends on your vpatch (what it does *exactly*), neh? chopping off some unused and moreover useless parts is valuable but a. it needs to be done making sure that nothing breaks b. mpi is and will still be a pile of shit
esthlos: so let's say I remove the "secure" bits of MPI code for the sake of honesty. is this a needless complication of the eucrypt vpatch tree?
asciilifeform: ( don't build boxes with swap! it is riotously stupid thing to do, full stop )
diana_coman: esthlos, eucrypt does not use this "secure" ; as per http://www.dianacoman.com/2017/12/28/eucrypt-chapter-3-miller-rabin-implementation/#selection-153.194-153.864
asciilifeform: diana_coman: it was a specific chumpatronic term used by koch et al
diana_coman: esthlos, no such thing as secure memory really
asciilifeform: ( they are sorted by # of mods that contain said factor, i.e. the middle column, the clickable one )
a111: Logged on 2018-04-28 19:17 mircea_popescu: you need better markup, as it is is confusing. is 3 or 4294967297 the factor shared by 2 or more moduli and which are htey.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-28#1806202 << how wouldja change the markup? i thought it was pretty clear, on http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/factors page, that you click the modcount to get the page of that factor , with detail ☝︎
asciilifeform: esthlos: it was gonna, then barfed and abandoned mpi 4evah
asciilifeform: i suspect that swapping only even exists as a possibility in current day os because of wreckers.
asciilifeform: esthlos: imho absolutely not; i haven't built a linix box with swapping to disk enabled, in decade+ ( 'secure alloc' simply means 'marked unswappable' ) ☟︎
esthlos: asciilifeform diana_coman: are the secure memory portions of MPI useful/worth their weight?
diana_coman: that sounds good ave1, looking forward to reading the post on it, when ready
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/AF8E81CF2FB7DFD3D4056C81E7E74104EE2B0918158FDB623CE02EC30621B31A << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1571...8017 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '79.174.66.57 (ssh-rsa key from 79.174.66.57 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (10441.ovz-ssd2.hc.ru. RU)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/65C32EBD426FD78D653C4C9440E3A55EEAE2217F0927439B58004887BE33AA33 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1480...0313 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '93.90.176.203 (ssh-rsa key from 93.90.176.203 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (strenge.itb-web.de. DE)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/5407C921960C226B72AD1A87AACD2DF4AD54112E25349CF9BC9269DB68BC5455 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1394...1269 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '188.137.98.146 (ssh-rsa key from 188.137.98.146 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (static-188-137-98-146.leon.com.pl. PL)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/4DCE34604792B60B9F04078F9C6740D6D40919ABBD98371729DC9C886F642600 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1424...2497 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '117.103.91.227 (ssh-rsa key from 117.103.91.227 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (smtp.cmi.edu. MH)
ave1: I found out that GNAT 2016 has some support for arm 64bit, but for android and ios and not for linux. So I had to do some small patching (I also looked at the 2017 version and I still could not find plain linux support in the adacore gnat)
ave1: When done + test that the cross compiled gcc actually works on an arm system I will publish.
ave1: Currently I'm building the final version (I hope, I was thinking the same thing a couple of days ago)
ave1: Unfortunately, It has taken weeks (a clean build takes a couple of hours + multiple small bugs had to be solved)
a111: Logged on 2018-04-28 16:50 asciilifeform: ^ ave1 has the closest thing to a turnkey process afaik. ( still requires finding a working gnat for ~some~ machine , somewhere, that already runs )
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/4DCE34604792B60B9F04078F9C6740D6D40919ABBD98371729DC9C886F642600 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1463...5277 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '117.103.91.227 (ssh-rsa key from 117.103.91.227 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (smtp.cmi.edu. MH)
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/lord-mp-of-tmsr-and-the-plebeian-princess-club/ << Trilema - Lord MP of TMSR and the plebeian princess club.
mircea_popescu: we thank you for your contribution!
phf: mircea_popescu: i'm not sure what i was trying to say there. that's not the first time i cold emailed someone, and also not the last one. i'm just making sure s/n doesn't stay too high
asciilifeform: phf: if it wasnt clear -- problem is solved, i have the machine going
a111: Logged on 2018-04-26 15:28 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-26#1805578 << article updated; possibly 1st time querying ( believe or not... ) reddit, yielded up a useful seekrit
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-26#1805634 << i emailed chromeunboxed.com guy "Robby Payne" on recommendation "they will know", haven't heard anything back. actually first time i cold called an online "specialist", not going to try that again ☝︎
mod6: Cool, trinque: thank's for the notice.
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/1A370819468076DDC074DBF03D7E49D9B18948C74CD6DA704E58679EE4993425 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1551...2983 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '189.74.124.245 (ssh-rsa key from 189.74.124.245 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (mail.victormarins.com.br. BR)
BingoBoingo: ty trinque
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/04/even-locked-microsoft-windows-computers-vulerable-to-bsod-crash-on-usb-insertion/ << Qntra - Even "Locked" Microsoft Windows Computers Vulerable to BSOD Crash On USB Insertion
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/04/tick-tock-still-dead-intel-remains-stalled-out-at-14-nm-node-process-another-year/ << Qntra - Tick Tock Still Dead Intel Remains Stalled Out At 14 nm Node Process Another Year
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/3BE30E12B591F6690BDBF29055AB1AB6CE960EF5DE65E88F221F11841B0B434C << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1367...8153 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '92.51.165.246 (ssh-rsa key from 92.51.165.246 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (sun.knuepfer-online.de. DE NW)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/1A370819468076DDC074DBF03D7E49D9B18948C74CD6DA704E58679EE4993425 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1767...6289 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '189.74.124.245 (ssh-rsa key from 189.74.124.245 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (mail.victormarins.com.br. BR)
trinque: hey folks, deedbot wallet announcement. there'll be a planned outage starting at 3pm. I'm moving infrastructure over to a new location, with what I expect to be a more reliable fiber connection.
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/3BE30E12B591F6690BDBF29055AB1AB6CE960EF5DE65E88F221F11841B0B434C << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1728...7347 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '92.51.165.246 (ssh-rsa key from 92.51.165.246 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (sun.knuepfer-online.de. DE NW)
mircea_popescu: you need better markup, as it is is confusing. is 3 or 4294967297 the factor shared by 2 or more moduli and which are htey. ☟︎
asciilifeform: i'ma read comments/barfology laters; off to ffa room nao!
asciilifeform: ( see bottom of http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/stats and from there self-explanatory )
spyked: ah, so only the IP parsing is phuctor-specific then
spyked: oh I see. but then does the 16+ alphanum shortening apply only to phuctor, or to all the feeds?
trinque: deedbot is also providing the reverse DNS and geolocation
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/04/shitware-today-china-toying-with-us-style-extraterritorial-jurisdiction/ << Qntra - Shitware Today: China Toying With US Style Extraterritorial Jurisdiction
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> incidentally, the move to uy has massively improved my personal server connection :D << Many cabling maps were consulted picking a landing spot after discovering Asia has no connectivity
mircea_popescu: incidentally, the move to uy has massively improved my personal server connection :D
asciilifeform: i have this on my conveyor under 'make arm gnat' but not gotten to it yet.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: it doesn't have to screw with the machinewide gcc; can do as part of buildroot ( iirc buildroot even supports auto-building gnat the same way i built e.g. arm7 gcc with it; but requires a running gnat to be present on the machine where it is done )
diana_coman: at any rate it's not the sort of thing I'd try directly on a remote machine as it messes up with the local gcc so this will be fun
mircea_popescu: ave1, is this true ? can you halp ?
asciilifeform: ^ ave1 has the closest thing to a turnkey process afaik. ( still requires finding a working gnat for ~some~ machine , somewhere, that already runs ) ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-11-17 15:06 mircea_popescu: trinque can deedbot rss parsing be unprincipledly altered so that any succession of alphanum characters in excess of 16 spaces is replaced with first4[...]last4 ?
mircea_popescu: if i want to move my eulora server from jam to gnat i am stuck... doing what ?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: afaik not! ( aside from the amply discussed sad phakt that building it requires a working gnat bin to be found somewhere else )
diana_coman: did anyone publish a compilation recipe for adacore's gnat on republican gentoo? searching the logs returned only various troubles and otherwise mod6's attempt as most recent from what I can tell: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-17#1685215 ☝︎
BingoBoingo: Holy fuckballs the "seasonally appropriate" rain has apparently arrived
asciilifeform: spyked: though iirc on rare occasions trinque's thing rang the bell twice for same one, on account of rss being an ill-conceived hack at birth
spyked: to anticipate a potential discussion on this: phuctor's feed is actually in "Atom" format, so it does have a unique "id" tag; maybe I should be using that as an identifier (and, respectively, the "guid" tag in RSS feeds) instead of the link.
spyked: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/sXFVt/?raw=true <-- snapshot of phuctor rss where the above holds.
spyked: to reproduce this: search for e.g. 741F83D180F194CFCEBD19BAD698A5DCAE9DFFB03F14A1687DC41D44706846DD in http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/rss ; will discover that there are two <link>-s to the same key.
spyked: also asciilifeform ^ re same, is it normal behaviour for some links to be posted twice on rss? I guess it does that when it finds >1 factors for the same key? asking because my experimental rss uses post links as IDs, so it posts at most 1 factor for a key.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-27 20:20 deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/741F83D180F194CFCEBD19BAD698A5DCAE9DFFB03F14A1687DC41D44706846DD << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1471...9097 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '27.254.152.70 (ssh-rsa key from 27.254.152.70 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (mail.10gb-host.net. TH)
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-27#1806058 <-- hey trinque, is the deedbot rsstron parsing the input from phuctor's rss feed somehow? asking because large numbers appear abbreviated (e.g. 1471...9097) on irc, but not in the feed. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-27 15:41 mircea_popescu: the crime and the punishment are indistinguishable in all divine systems.
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-27#1805945 <-- /me digs the dostoievskian reference. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-27 15:41 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-27#1805922 << if you're going to "--clearsign" why not "-aer uid" for the same money ?
spyked: you ain't seen nothing yet. just wait till I publish my other coads.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-27 15:36 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-27#1805903 << poor spyked keeps getting blindsided with this sorta item. how you holding up in there, yo
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-27#1805936 <-- lol, I was looking for it! but in all seriousness, I'm very happy to see thetarpit being read and generating comments. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-27 15:23 lobbes: Neato spyked. I'm sure I'll be putting your guide to practical use once it comes time to implement the self-voicing bit of the eventual tickerbot I'm building