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spyked: speaking of which; to all ircbot users: I have a patch proposal for ircbot (and possibly logbot). the problem: nickserv authentication makes a distinction between "nickname" and "user". this allows e.g. to group multiple irc bots (with different nicks) under a single username and cloak. so my proposal is to add a new *optional* "user" slot to ircbot and use it for auth instead of "nick" when available ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-01 16:25 phf: ight have time to sit down with v.pl before mid may. i can also just remove the right hand side of vtools for now, since this new complexity is coming from an experimental v graph anyway. i've no idea though if people are using a sha512 vtools in preference of awk vdiff / gnu patch.
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-01#1807007 <-- fwiw I've used the sha512 branch of vtools and will continue to until existing trees get reground with keccak. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-30 22:04 asciilifeform: ( and http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-31#1560740 , and there was a particular link some time in past yr which i now cannot find, where someone actually went and ~measured~ the reaction time delay of msdos, various winblowz boxen from past 20yr, crapple, bolix, etc etc and found exactly what i'd expect him to find )
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-30#1806773 <-- was it http://danluu.com/input-lag/ ? anyway, leaving this here for entomology. ☝︎☟︎
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/chicks-in-pantsuits-winning-arguments-with-yours-truly-a-comedic-goldmine-of-lulz-and-tears/ << Trilema - Chicks in pantsuits winning arguments with yours truly, a comedic goldmine of lulz and tears.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in tech, https://78.media.tumblr.com/6814f5228bb204fb3bfca0f25822a272/tumblr_naiw51dkhV1s7ch8qo1_1280.jpg
ben_vulpes: pg "SSI" does this correctly afaik; would serve coherent versions of comments and article i believe.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, that case is really no different ; phuctor is just a mechanized trilema with a narrow focus.
mircea_popescu: and even more complicated dirty mixes, whereby eg "the article -- new ; but the comments -- old, so we are serving a false imaginary situation that never could have existed irl!!!" is still... no harm done WHATSOEVER.
ben_vulpes: my attention is on the original phuctorgenic goal of "i don't care about your concurrency controls, gimme whatever's in the page ritenao!"
mircea_popescu: in the case of trilema, for instance, the db serving articles FROM YESTERDAY OR EARLIER ONLY, ie, 86400000000 microseconds old, is still 99% of the job done. cuz most of the time you're not even using it for "the latest", and even if there is a latest in any meaningful sense it's many millions / billions / trillions microseconds old anyway.
mircea_popescu: it's way the fuck better to ~serve~ even if the article is epsilon seconds "too old" than to hang while you update, or even fucking worse, reject the connection.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, consider the eminent case of apache serving mp-wp. the fact that at t1 i updated the article list and at t2 the db read the stale t0 version makes EXACTLY NO DIFFERENCE.
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2016-12-30 17:14 mircea_popescu: it really should be up to operator wtf, if i want to read dirty let me read dirty what sort of decision is this for designer to make.
ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2016-12-30#76508 << i'm still wrapping my head around dirty reads and how database concurrency implementation strategies affect the possibility; here's a breadcrumb on the trail http://www.interdb.jp/pg/pgsql05.html
ben_vulpes is a day behind, will attend to invoices that need indepth review tomorrow; outstanding invoices will go out this pm
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: !Qlater tell bingoboingo also were there errors to be rectified from b4 or anything ? ☟︎
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: !Qlater tell bingoboingo is this right, 3035+3058 ? ☟︎
ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-5-2#346916 << "On a system I'm testing on, in practice, the RNG just reads the DMI table and then, since the DMI table is way bigger than 64 bytes, immediately moves to crng_init==1 without using even a single sample of interrupt randomness."
mircea_popescu: the eastern/orthodox expression being "durerea-i ziditoare", ie, pain [builds] the kingdom of heaven
mircea_popescu: which is why ux is such a terrible field. it's caught in this fundamental tension, between moomoos "wanting" to stay moomoos on one hand, and "doctor, my eye hurts every time i take a sip of my coffee" on the other.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-02 04:58 ben_vulpes: IA is for that revered fourth, fifth and sixth standard deviation; not for teh everyonez
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-02#1807501 << technically speaking, it's for everyone ; the problem is that for the average man intelligence amplification takes a shape very much indistinguishable from sheer pain. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i suppose the correct construction is that he simply doesn't know what's going on. aanyways.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-02#1807489 << wait, you object to bingoboingo's moving to uruguay ? or just ... in general ? ☝︎
ben_vulpes: i can have the software written, by devoted historians i train myself or who've built a relationship upon delivery and savvy over years of wot relationships
ben_vulpes: gabriel_laddel: why would i give a shit when you seem dedicated to the penurious style that'll prevent you from ever delivering on the implications.
ben_vulpes: right. put another way, why are you so obsessed over this nominally-solved problem to such a degree that you'd deprive the republic of a capitalized sapper
ben_vulpes: gabriel_laddel: it doesn't matter for so long as the incans control the fabs.
ben_vulpes: IA is for that revered fourth, fifth and sixth standard deviation; not for teh everyonez ☟︎
gabriel_laddel: ben_vulpes okay, so where do fexpers stand? Can we do away with them given our SETF-editor & populated infodb?
ben_vulpes: these are tools of intelligence amplification, done correctly. users/eyeballs/hitcounters are *the* antipattern.
ben_vulpes: wanking over the wallpaper doesn't kneecap the megastate one whit
gabriel_laddel: ben_vulpes what do we get out of populating the infodb with s-expression sources and editing with SETF rather than working through files?
ben_vulpes: and i get the appeal of visionary supermandom but dude upcycling craptops with a hilarious gentoonotalisp is very shy of that mark
ben_vulpes: there are three things to do: britneyize, lash yourself to another man's oar, or be the visionary superman
ben_vulpes: gabriel_laddel: i gotta point out that precursors, arms and crack are *all* milkings.
asciilifeform: folx make fun of 'lsd on roofs' but whirling dervish life prolly has something to recommend it..
gabriel_laddel: But adali? BB? The old ex-mit-ai-lab guy I met who now just tutors kids in math & DOESNT EVEN TEACH THEM LISP?! Or the other ex-symbolics people?
asciilifeform: i mean, tbf, i haven't tried doing things via the gabriel_laddel way, of yet.
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform loper-os http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-02#1807481 is utterly revolutionary & I wouldn't dream of implying that. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-02 04:28 gabriel_laddel: but no, they want to "be reasonable", "hold jobs", "have a place to stay", "not do hard drugs" and on and on it goes
ben_vulpes: flail in the dark on your own if you must.
ben_vulpes: i've yet to see evidence of you doing either, so the objection cannot stand.
gabriel_laddel: I'd rather sell crack/arms/precursors than milk moocows.
ben_vulpes: there is nothing "reasonable" about the trilema plan for wealth, come on now.
ben_vulpes: not in the work itself, innards of windows and "whitelabled mobile experiences" are only worthwhile insofar as they drain the beasts of their lifeblood
ben_vulpes: gabriel_laddel: there is much enjoyment to be had in building great moocow milking machines
ben_vulpes: and the starkest, most bleak indictment of all, no great men to serve
ben_vulpes: because 'britneyization', the crushing drive to make everything as cheap, of as few and the cheapest atoms possible in order to sell it at the largest scale to the greatest number of people, because this is how socialism works: big tents, eyeballs, "hamburgers served", number of voters
gabriel_laddel: but no, they want to "be reasonable", "hold jobs", "have a place to stay", "not do hard drugs" and on and on it goes ☟︎
gabriel_laddel: fuck patience. That attitude is why we don't have one now. If people had just generally been less of a bunch of complete girly-men at symbolics, or the MIT AI lab, or Franz, or or or we'd have something that's close enough to "troo lispm" for me, even if ascii would be unhappy about it.
ben_vulpes: which, make no mistake, is precisely what you're doing. pulling refuse from the usgstani fabrication pipeline and "oh dear sir or madam, this posey to spare your child from the plague i mean hailofbullets"
ben_vulpes: look i admire your determination but there's no leverage and no market anywhere to be seen; you could be patient, scraping down food credits and suffering now for what will be an entire IC two decades from now had ye the foresight to not waste your time picking rags
gabriel_laddel: *shrugs* I'm interested in the lispm. BTC is incidental. Interesting, but incidental. Have sold my absolutely-not-a-lispm in the past & plan to continue doing so in the future. Last time around I was homeless, couldn't get rides to meetups, no ebay account etc. This time around, not so much.
gabriel_laddel: same one. lisp machine. bulletproofed case & sold to mass market as "save your kid in event of school shooting"
ben_vulpes: but rest easy meine freunde there is nothing easier in this world than ballooning your leverage and socking pennies away in btc
ben_vulpes: gabriel_laddel: for poor fuxx like you and me there is only the trilemman 'plan for wealth'
asciilifeform: i suspect , the man himself did not know, had own dr.morrell
asciilifeform: ( though 'to what' remains iirc open q )
trinque: heh, at least that one admits the addiction
asciilifeform: 'Is there any way out for the majority of addicts who can't buy a boat and sail the Seven Seas?' << lulzy
gabriel_laddel: trinque: No. That was conditional on someone sending me medical resources. Turns out you can IV cocaine into spine & it will knock out all feeling from there down if you want to be mentally present during such an operation (somewhere in http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/History/e1920/nightmareofcocaine.htm ).
trinque: gabriel_laddel: did you ever post pics of the foot?
mircea_popescu: well here's to that getting fixed soon, then.
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: Not starving, am just poor (for the time being).
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: wai still starving, tho ?
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu lisp jobs exist for ~anyone who is willing to spend some time working for it. Sorta like northstar electronics & the dragonfly
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu I got a stopgap for the time being.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, in "bringing the light" news, https://78.media.tumblr.com/ceca99de9986a0a1f54a2684718371cb/tumblr_nhu1gucsFu1qairwpo1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: how did the sawed off heel work out in the end ?
a111: Logged on 2018-04-06 00:59 gabriel_laddel: beetlejuice is suffering gainful employment writing java for the time being
mircea_popescu: i thought lisp stuff for money is the province of a few remainder whitebeards in usg.missiles grandfathered contracts.
asciilifeform lulz in particular re the heathen 'vpn' ads in the pastebin link
gabriel_laddel: ben_vulpes That said, will be in touch.
gabriel_laddel: ben_vulpes I've no problem with working in BTC, but you have to understand that when I say things like "no really, I've 1 computer, ~400 usd to my name and a package of camels" I really mean it.
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/BA0450D117008E5A2062860A5DF11353781123CFB44A905CAA74C5836643E636 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1561...0167 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '118.194.133.33 (ssh-rsa key from 118.194.133.33 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown CN 11)
ben_vulpes: or are you still scared of being seen to transact in btc
mircea_popescu: o ? what are you working on these days
a111: Logged on 2018-05-02 01:17 BigTexasBingo: !Q gabriel_laddel Seriously where the fuck are you. This land is Your land
gabriel_laddel: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-02#1807262 < Not sure why the land of untouchable females & stoners would be "my land", but I'm doing the same thing I always do. Work. FFS, the _point_ of drugs is to be _more_ productive, or to _learn something new_. ☝︎
ben_vulpes: hey gabriel_laddel now that you've got a job and everything, how about a bouncer on the pizarro shared host?
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/4222F10404D616C1353CAA84FEA591D43C2A91E7E8EEEB54172D168083A04D3A << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1421...4059 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '67.223.227.19 (ssh-rsa key from 67.223.227.19 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown US MA)
asciilifeform: mod6: see also the simpler example in the orig post , http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2018-March/000293.html .
mod6: I guess I need to noodle on this a while, and perhaps make a different example outside the context of trb.
asciilifeform: ( bonus, is that it also cures inbandism that orig. v suffers from. albeit this requires a slightly modified differ . )
a111: Logged on 2018-04-03 00:07 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform seems to me a correctly designed and properly implemented version of trinque 's original doodle, which he summarily described as "bundle all files together and hash"
mod6: I dunno, maybe i've forgotten the point of all of this.
asciilifeform: mno, 'crystal' is what i arbitrarily titled the tar-like format .
mod6: And the vertical pillar of flow, in this case, is the crystal.
asciilifeform: if you display the thing in phf's viewer, or mod6's , you will see a vertical 'pillar' of flow, rather than the familiar tree.
asciilifeform: mod6: the included illustration was to the effect of 'what if trb had been made using this type of vtron, from genesis to present day' .
asciilifeform: but overall i think you grasp it.
asciilifeform: mod6: gotta separate out the demo-maker from the proggy itself
mod6: I believe so, it does this: 1] It takes a press of v99. 2] Runs dir2txt.py on each dir, doing vdiffs of all the files. Stuffing output into monoblok. 3] Monoblok has 1 antecedent hash, 1 dependant hash, rest meta & source. 4] You load the monobloks (signed ofc) into a vtron, press them. They press into one giant file with metadata and source only. 5] one runs txt2dir.py on teh giant crystal to inflate univ
mod6: If I would have been more careful the first time, would have been 1.
asciilifeform: mod6: say, tho, whether the ~algo~ made sense to you