asciilifeform: !$ ssh 188.65.217.101 38.96.32.1 211.234.125.52

asciilifeform: in other updates, 0 blackholing since wiring zoolag to dulap. thus far.

asciilifeform bbl.

asciilifeform: ^

asciilifeform: !!key asciilifeform

asciilifeform: there's now 1 key for asciilifeform , from nao until gpg shitburial day ( same modulus as always )

asciilifeform: (the rest, same..)

asciilifeform: phf: wires_rev1 shows no sigs..?

asciilifeform: phf: neato!

asciilifeform: shinohai: coinbase , bitpay << lel

asciilifeform: lel

asciilifeform: !$ ssh 87.237.120.158

asciilifeform: 'Voigt & Schweitzer wünscht Frohe Weihnachten!'

asciilifeform: (graphical wwwtron needed, noshit)

asciilifeform: http://87.237.120.158 shows a peculiar cartoon.

asciilifeform: go figure.

asciilifeform: hm!

asciilifeform: !$ ssh 50.16.76.136

asciilifeform: so potentially interesting wtf.

asciilifeform: the classical diddled debian, afaik, never coexisted with aws.

asciilifeform: ^ only 4 aws keyz popped previously !

asciilifeform: neato, lobbes !

asciilifeform: i could even picture that the original plan included offering d00d antidote, if he comes along..

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's as braindamaged as northkr's linux distro. but seems like worked!

asciilifeform: permanent cns rot.

asciilifeform: complicated. pediwikia lies, paralysis of breath is not the only problem.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: he would, if it were dilute / in dmso.

asciilifeform: in asia it is common suicide method (not, granted, with vx! but with weaker commercial pesticides)

asciilifeform: (pupils the size of pinholes, etc)

asciilifeform: btw i find it strange that the local orc docs did not notice classical picture of organophosphate poison

asciilifeform: yw mod6

asciilifeform: it is a liquid, similar to motor oil, at room temp

asciilifeform: nope, not vx

asciilifeform: ( or butyrylcholinesterase, or one of the other lulzies asciilifeform worked on when slaving for usg )

asciilifeform: https://archive.is/HBLyJ << vx, claimed. was my suspicion also. chick prolly fed , e.g., pralidoxime, ahead of doing the deed.

asciilifeform: (stock trb will happily drop ~anyone~ on the floor, for dozen different reasons, incl. 'we used him for too long')

asciilifeform: the essential thing is nondisconnectable nodes.

asciilifeform: it was made for 'g', the ssh thing is temporary.

asciilifeform: wire is agnostic of tunnelator.

asciilifeform: iirc mpb also had something equiv. to 'wire'.

asciilifeform: (spoiler: was a mega-downer)

asciilifeform: can't help but wonder how much, or little, theirs resembles mine. just as brits wondered how much nazi 'freya' radar, resembled brit radar

asciilifeform: because only now exists in a public proggy.

asciilifeform: lulzily enough, back in.. 2013..? mircea_popescu described how Serious Folx, incl. miners, already do this.

asciilifeform: unbitflippable direct pipe to large trb node.

asciilifeform: ultimately i'ma tear down the tunneltron and replace with 'g'. but same idea, topologically.

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: (any takers..?)

asciilifeform: turns out, i just built it.

asciilifeform: in principle.

asciilifeform: also mircea_popescu the 'node as paid service' thing now can actually exist.

asciilifeform: (to clarify: nonce prevents ~only~ self-talking, but not external dupes)

asciilifeform: probably we want a -dontuse=an.ip.goes.here flag.

asciilifeform: this is solvable via iptables, but uggly

asciilifeform: and happily chat on it, like cat talks to mirror

asciilifeform: my wired nodes still find each other via addr.dat and open ~second~, plaintext tcp pipe...

asciilifeform: phun phakt: the 'anti-selfconnect nonce' in bitcoin, never worked

asciilifeform: oughta use front hands.

asciilifeform: aha, i oughta not've used my anal handz!!1!

asciilifeform: also http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2017-February/000252.html has typo! and nobody noticed!!1 chown oughta be, of course, chmod.

asciilifeform back...

asciilifeform bbl

asciilifeform: the emperor is the earliest, known to me, inventor of 'specificity of diddling' lemma. see logs, very informative.

asciilifeform: veen: let's try a historical angle. according to legend, emperor qin shi huangdi (same d00d as known for taking the 'immortality pill' and promptly croaking) had a palace with 1,500 rooms. and would not tell anyone in advance which one he plans to sleep in on a given night. and which ones he would put cutthroats in, ready to kill anyone who opens door. think 'minesweeper.' ☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎

asciilifeform: veen: snow flake ?

asciilifeform: (via http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-23#1617304 ) ☝︎

asciilifeform: i have this duo, scrolling on opposite lcds

asciilifeform: ^brain-melting

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ONLY NOW verified 454403!

asciilifeform: veen: it isn't that it is a catastrophically bad idea, compared to what is currently on your box -- rather, it is an example of something you do not want to cement in long-term use

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: holy fuck, 454403 14 minutes (and counting) on dulap; verified on zoolag in 15 seconds

asciilifeform: on various junk

asciilifeform: during the great wild goose chase.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: we had half a dozen people here repeatedly build gpg-1.4.10 back in august, recall

asciilifeform: iirc argument was ' i dun wanna recompile gpg '

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: looks like we have another '20 minute block'

asciilifeform: every bit in a private key is an 'obscurity' item.

asciilifeform: veen: security through not conveniently labeling 'here i keep the crown jewels' in advance. it multiplies.

asciilifeform: without seeing the rack, you don't know which ones -- if any -- are fg; and which one is my air conditioner; etc ☟︎

asciilifeform: i've got /dev/tty.....

asciilifeform: nope

asciilifeform: as opposed to 'just break /dev/random'

asciilifeform: and the work is 100% unique to the setup, which is not known in advance to anyone

asciilifeform: takes actual work to determine

asciilifeform: which ones are FGs

asciilifeform: veen: i, for instance, am sitting in front of a box with 11 hardware ttys

asciilifeform: which is why /dev/random was a terrifyingly bad idea from day 1./ ☟︎

asciilifeform: veen: specificity-of-diddling. by using one centralized entropy pool that the os knows about, you make enemy's work slightly easier.

asciilifeform: you can also feed, e.g., monte carlo algos, from it

asciilifeform: which behaves sanely, eats from wherever you want

asciilifeform: there is also http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1762

asciilifeform: there is (not yet released) 'p', mentioned in earlier thread today, which will eat from 1 or more FGs

asciilifeform: there are also others ( e.g., generating onetimepads; or in general input for any proggy that sanely eats input )

asciilifeform: veen: there's the one you described (conventional gpg with string '/dev/random' ripped out and replaced with the correct) ;

asciilifeform: !#s specificity

asciilifeform: or how many you have.

asciilifeform: this is deliberate, the os has no business knowing what it is.

asciilifeform: on a unixline, FUCKGOATS shows up as a modem.

asciilifeform: well yes.

asciilifeform: rather, stty -ixon /dev/yourfg