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mp_en_viaje: so at noon i was gonna feed this cute burlesque performer the girls picked up yest (long story), and i was hoping to get the nsa thing done in the meanwhile, but here i sit TWO HOURS LATER still going through the logs.
mp_en_viaje: and THIS is the neurosis, substantially, "that if she asks and i say no might as well tell her to find another one".
asciilifeform: next i guess we can play the scenario where friends invite me to go but cannot go, 'eh, arthritis'
mp_en_viaje: he has the problems i ~could~ have, because i don't. see ? makes perfect sense, i ride the highs, he suffers the lows. like labour division.
asciilifeform: i suppose it'd have to be 'i am old and studying for the grave, find new master' in this scenario
mp_en_viaje: "well, it's not the right moon phase" may be cheaper than "cuz i can't fucking get it up holy shit, how much is enough!"
asciilifeform: i suspect it aint the one he has, fwiw, but rather the one in that jewish tale where rabbi tells man 'bring into your house the cow, goat, sheep, then chase'em out sometimes and rejoice in their absence'
mp_en_viaje: but every married man eventually discovers this simple fact, that there she is, why aren't i fucking her.
mp_en_viaje: why the hell are you asking me, not like i train people to have these.
mp_en_viaje: why now ? why not then ? how could i know in advance when ?
asciilifeform: i dun recall any hint of dpb suffering the... problem described here , i.e. 'awash in cunt, how do i schedule it'
a111: Logged on 2019-06-30 00:16 trinque: danielpbarron: ftr your fixation when fucking is allowed and when it's the naughty is the saddest thing I've ever seen.
a111: Logged on 2019-06-30 00:11 BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: I am suspecting it is a conference joke I missed http://trilema.com/2014/ca-tot-s-a-tras-tot-s-a-fumat-tot-s-a-baut-tot-cum-e-peste-tot-la-fel-ca-peste-tot/#footnote_2_54005
a111: Logged on 2019-06-30 00:08 asciilifeform: incidentally i agree with their pov where 'do you think anything stands 4evah, idiot? all must die, men, kingdoms, worlds'.
asciilifeform: this model applies moar closely than, i suspect, mp_en_viaje suspects :
mp_en_viaje: there's a succession of steps, in sovok. and one step's the peak. the difference between the step before the peak and the step that is the peak is precisely this : object went from "feeling good was easy whne stalin sang the blues" to "i'd trade all my tomorrows for one of yesterday"
mp_en_viaje: fwiw i do not believe the morons who ended up on suburbs acted purposefully. they ~ended up~ there, as the just desserts of a life spent being derpy. they didn't derpy deliberately, they just derpy.
mp_en_viaje: so there has to be this directed class of malfeasants and all that. i don't necessarily see it (i'm not saying you're provedly wrong, just, seems not needed extra premise).
mp_en_viaje: i don't dispute they could've done a better job of it. i am saying they weren't.
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-29#1920605 << dude gtfo, that's the msot ridiculous thing i ever heard. period usg infiltration was at the http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-13#1520606 stage, ☝︎☝︎
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-27#1920455 << the reason i do not believe korea to be that interesting is that so much of their integration-resistence is built on deliberate blindness. if your computer is only safe if not connected to the internet, you don;t have an os of great interest. show it to be safe when online, then we'll have a talk. ☝︎
asciilifeform wonders if there's a ro version. pretty sure i heard e.g. latvian variant.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-31 11:59 diana_coman: asciilifeform: fwiw I enjoy your non-programming output
trinque: yeh, heaven on earth is the most decadent shit I've ever heard.
trinque: and perhaps the "hurr god doesn't real, now I can masturbate in peace" thing isn't the best place to park the head.
trinque: you know, that one has been on my list too long. I'll move it up.
trinque: asciilifeform: hypothesis is well summarized in a mircea_popescu trilema post I'll find
trinque: BingoBoingo: like "someday I'll post such a great pic on instagram I'll have the likes to buy a flat in miami" or what ☟︎
trinque: but I guess it was permavacation to the outside, 80s partying ☟︎
trinque: the miami meme is still a little lost on me, born as I was in FL, shithole supreme.
asciilifeform: near as, without time machine, i can tell -- spared'em because believed that his succession would be recognized by his peers.
asciilifeform: trinque: ru history knew revolutionaries who tried to carry on the algo of 'i am seekrit hidden pseudo-murdered heir of $monarch!'. some got pretty far, e.g. pugachev, but all ended up on chopping block.
trinque: you found your cock, congrats. I played a better christian dork in my teens than you've ever done.
trinque: danielpbarron: ftr your fixation when fucking is allowed and when it's the naughty is the saddest thing I've ever seen. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: I am suspecting it is a conference joke I missed http://trilema.com/2014/ca-tot-s-a-tras-tot-s-a-fumat-tot-s-a-baut-tot-cum-e-peste-tot-la-fel-ca-peste-tot/#footnote_2_54005 ☟︎
asciilifeform: incidentally i agree with their pov where 'do you think anything stands 4evah, idiot? all must die, men, kingdoms, worlds'. ☟︎
trinque: now I want to say that they died because they made shitty gods.
trinque: I would've earlier said that the ussa and ussr died quick because technology caused them to hit a complexity limit.
trinque: this is what I suspect the two had in common when they were anything to speak about.
trinque: I doubt this because it conflates the hearts of men and grunts.
trinque: I don't know about that. I'm meandering toward a point about narrative and the power thereof.
asciilifeform: usg philosophy, 'why grow cow, when i can burn down neighbour's barn' was already formed. couldn't carry 4evah, tho, so eventually grew cow.
trinque: yeah, I'd buy the N1 sabotage hypothesis
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, i thought that was a reference to something prior.
trinque: (I could see this; fuck's sake, what an empire)
asciilifeform: i.e. gigatonne of purposeless biomass.
trinque: I don't even disagree, just drawing it out.
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-27#1920336 << I assume this means, among other things, that the statal terror (gulag etc) was a necessary part of the peasant-shithole to spacefaring transition? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-08-12 22:39 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-12#1519897 << yes, the us was inconceivably wealthy. i nthat 1985-1990 half decade / 5yrplan it could have literally convinced the globe to do anything. this is ultimate wealth. sadly they decided to use that capital to convince the globe "saddam had nuclear weapons" and "green energy/blabla ecolotardisms and assorted danquayleisms" instead.
a111: Logged on 2019-06-27 07:03 mp_en_viaje: trinque, i do not believe you will find such a thing as a useful history of rus' 20th century in this language, like you have say a useful history of the latin centuries 3-5.
ave1: I think I'm pressing the right buttons on this gcc build but it simply does not work
ave1: at time like these I wish I had a store full of good remarks in my head, instead of tons of ways to program a stupid computer
mp_en_viaje: i just woke up in a roomful of passed out nude sluts
asciilifeform: naturally 'not real bridge', can't roll a train over it. i imagine the ones in cr were built by che guevara's partizans or somesuch, under cover of night
mp_en_viaje: i mean they're kinda cool as an "activity", but they're not real bridges, they're more like a niovelty.
mp_en_viaje: i dunno who it's for, but incorrect weight distribution for my height, and elbow restrictive. wtf, it's like a sanitarium shirt
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, i dunno, i fucking hate hammocks
asciilifeform: prolly this is where i oughta admit to not using any transport with <4 wheels
asciilifeform: ( it's ~no good for anyffin practical until i bake a cuntoo or at the very least a clean buildroot for it, and won't get chance for a while, thing is on back burner )
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: ch20 ( i expect will wrap on sunday ). and how many ch since last broadcast? 3 i think
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, i intend to publish the q3 nsa report sometime today/tomorrow. technically early, but we don't have that much movement that anything'll get missed imo. do you have anything i don't know about has to go in ?
mp_en_viaje: i think people just step off and leave once out of charge ?
a111: Logged on 2019-06-27 17:06 asciilifeform: afaik the last english periodical for intelligent non-professional who 'friends with his head' , was 'scientific american'. i have a set of these here, 1960-1990. pretty good, but no comparison with e.g. 'kvant'.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i still recall a time when ~errybody with pc compat 'made' in this sense
a111: Logged on 2017-11-22 00:50 mircea_popescu: people did that sort of thing, back then. and all the fuckbook tards who paint the dude (rightfully or not, i don't give a shit) as the summum malum never as much as put together a fucking lego box.
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, entirely possible, i agee.
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: I'm inclined to believe the split happens as described, but given the marketing of medicine in the US can't rule out some dorks taking benadryl for daytime allergies, Prozac for their sexless depression, and other benadryl for sleep chemically shaping their brain into dementia
a111: Logged on 2019-06-27 15:58 asciilifeform: ( fwiw i suspect that cia selling dope ~in usa~ really is 'employees using office equp. for personal gain', rather than political project. consider, you have fleet of seekrit planes, airstrips, 0 customs inspections, how couldja ~not~ traffic dope )
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, you seriously dun see what i'm saying, or are you just pissed off ?
asciilifeform: i recall at one pt in mp_en_viaje's www there was 'mediocrity -- intelligence wholly consumed by self-preservation' or how it went.
a111: Logged on 2019-06-27 15:26 asciilifeform: in re: e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-27#1920320 , i find the 'civilized' world's pov re sovok to be profoundly schizoid, and quite reminiscent of e.g. hitler's of the j00z -- i.e. somehow simultaneously 'imbeciles, incapable of constructive work' and 'devilish genius that controls world'
asciilifeform: i suspect plain ol' orc stupidity, blindly copying usa fashions
BingoBoingo: The only thing I can guess is that someone's burning "Venture" funds just to see what happens when they try turkey dollar expenditures
asciilifeform: i dunget the appeal of the shitboard. why wouldja want to stand on plank ? i got tired of it as 5yo
BingoBoingo: nah, the electric bike-ish things are slow coming in but I do see more.
asciilifeform: i thought was re motorcycles.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: why, i wonder, nonexistent ? chinese electrothing will take you across whole montevideo 3-4x on 1 charge
asciilifeform: i've spoken to coupla dozen d00dz in usa who went to iraq. all admitted to having had ~0 notion of where on the globe it was, prior to trip.
asciilifeform: afaik the last english periodical for intelligent non-professional who 'friends with his head' , was 'scientific american'. i have a set of these here, 1960-1990. pretty good, but no comparison with e.g. 'kvant'. ☟︎
asciilifeform: re philology i am less equipped to comment, but consider a typical philologic puzzler from 'science&life' in 1980s, from asciilifeform's own b00kcase -- here's a passage in $obscurelang (kazah, chukcha, chechen), here's defs of 6 words. nao answer these-here q's re the text...
asciilifeform: i recall this tale
mp_en_viaje: i once passed an exam (whatever, highschool term paper) because i introduced as a lemma a clearly absurd geometrical proof ("all straight angles are obtuse") and then on the basis of this 1=2 proceeded to prove the question at hand. the teacher a) gave me full points because couldn't spot the error in the absurdity and then b) took sick leave the next day
mp_en_viaje: the typically ustardian notion that it's acceptable to not know, to not understand, to not care even was entirely unknown ; that "i dunno man, i just work here" typical redditism entirely repressed, socially inacceptable and universally deemed morally reprehensible.
asciilifeform: ( fwiw i suspect that cia selling dope ~in usa~ really is 'employees using office equp. for personal gain', rather than political project. consider, you have fleet of seekrit planes, airstrips, 0 customs inspections, how couldja ~not~ traffic dope ) ☟︎
BingoBoingo: <mp_en_viaje> in other news, god i fucking love poland << Land of tits and ass?
mp_en_viaje: i should prolly publish pics of this apt, it's something else too.
mp_en_viaje: in other news, god i fucking love poland
asciilifeform: it has own idea of 'for where', perhaps. i suspect mp_en_viaje knows moar on subj, might say when wakes up.
asciilifeform: i thought cia specialized in coca
BingoBoingo: And I suspect they are paying less tribute and purchasing more opium for the suburbs
BingoBoingo: I wouldn't call it quite a full checkmate. USG presently has a couple fortified points from which it can dispatch material for destruction thereby creating the "need" to buy more material to keep the MI bezzle loop looped
asciilifeform: in re: e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-27#1920320 , i find the 'civilized' world's pov re sovok to be profoundly schizoid, and quite reminiscent of e.g. hitler's of the j00z -- i.e. somehow simultaneously 'imbeciles, incapable of constructive work' and 'devilish genius that controls world' ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: asciilifeform says : fuck the jeans. with red hot poker. i'll happily give back the jeans. gimme back 'kvant' and 0 rent.
asciilifeform: re: the memoirs -- ~90% of asciilifeform's bedtime reading for 10+ yrs nao. but found much moar value in the memoirs of ~people who did things, with own hands~, chemists, tank commanders, pilots, etc, than in the 'famous in west' power players, which invariably have the flavour of 'i am kako, once was great but unjustly dethroned, read my butthurts!'
mp_en_viaje: you can read as much of its links and references as you have the time / stomach / patience for ; you will not become knowledgeable thereby, but you will become more capable of distinguishing between useful and useless source material than you are now, and importantly : capable enough to trust yourself (though to some degree you're evidently capable even now, i suspect the absence of that last element's what irks you).
mp_en_viaje: trinque, i do not believe you will find such a thing as a useful history of rus' 20th century in this language, like you have say a useful history of the latin centuries 3-5. ☟︎
trinque: can't say I buy Orlov's flag-waving either ftr.
trinque: asciilifeform: any history writers you recommend on the soviet era? I watched that garbage of which Orlov wrote, characters might as well have winked at the camera and sang "take me out to the ballgame"
billymg: i'm fine with that too. actually i'd be quite fine staying in texas forever if it weren't for http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-01#1877612 ☝︎
BingoBoingo: Well, Costa Rica is tropical. Here I'm at roughly the same latitude as St Louis. We have a winter. Not particularly cold, but the days get short.