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asciilifeform: diana_coman: when you fix your copy, i'ma reimport, ping me
asciilifeform: diana_coman: dun seem to be caused by my proggy ( but loox like you already found )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: there isn't currently any such thing. ( what asciilifeform was orig. wanting to make, was a 'calendar page' thing. but not attempted yet. )
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, i suppose.
asciilifeform: diana_coman, spyked , lobbes , BingoBoingo , lemme know if you want yours in that list .
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, lobbes diana_coman ^
lobbes: diana_coman: this is true, huh. Besides, worse things I could be than a knight! I'll take the opportunity to learn how to not decide things in haste for example
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-15 12:57:02 diana_coman: I just realised that it was probably not clear above: my point was why regret the *decision*.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-15 12:57:02 diana_coman: I just realised that it was probably not clear above: my point was why regret the *decision*.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-15 06:03:16 diana_coman: mircea_popescu: even if/when I must introduce it because possibly some disgruntled good for nothings have nothing better to do than to spam
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, ah yeah, noody;s proposing you must introduce voice in your own castle.
mircea_popescu: aand diana_coman 's comment yielded a first error fix!
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-14 07:57:52 diana_coman: fwiw I always end up scratching my head at this "mircea_popescu won't help" because I haven't seen more people that are more helpful than mircea_popescu ; the only way that "won't help" makes sense to me is if it's fully qualified as in "won't help your stupidity"
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 04:15:00 diana_coman: if you say it's not any and all to talk, the q is : who to talk?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 04:11:35 mircea_popescu: diana_coman, might still have to make soem kind of two-tiered system, because im not going to either unrate most everyone i have rated now nor let any and all talk. so i guess ima have two keysets ? nfi.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 02:06:51 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, standard wasn't ~properly~ described. standard was described at fucking all, i don't need to explain the difference between your logger which diana_coman 's running now and phf's alleged logger which, for all anyone knows, consists of one mechanical turk who meanwhile got sad / ran away.
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: It is http://bingology.net/2019/09/11/uruguay-for-sale-or-keanu-sacks-the-plaza-independencia-grass/ Netflix and Keanu Reeves filming something.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-14 07:57:52 diana_coman: fwiw I always end up scratching my head at this "mircea_popescu won't help" because I haven't seen more people that are more helpful than mircea_popescu ; the only way that "won't help" makes sense to me is if it's fully qualified as in "won't help your stupidity"
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 02:24:17 asciilifeform: it was enheartening tho when diana_coman ate ffa 1-19 and commented. apparently it was edible by at least 1 . (even if took a maffs doctor )
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 03:58:56 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1936040 - hey, glad to hear it actually! it was wholesome food (and no maffs-doctor here, fwiw the maffs in it are undergraduate level I'd say, not more).
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 13:20:48 asciilifeform: diana_coman: i wasn't there, at the tea table, so can't say. but fwiw i suspect he thought 'already written off' .
mircea_popescu: and i can see the "hey diana_coman if you dun wanna rate johnny 9 then don't knight'him" ?
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, you think ?
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, might still have to make soem kind of two-tiered system, because im not going to either unrate most everyone i have rated now nor let any and all talk. so i guess ima have two keysets ? nfi.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 13:19:15 asciilifeform: diana_coman: no, i actually buy your summary, 'd00d wouldn't fucking talk'. but i'm also willing to ask ~why~ didn't talk ? maybe because erry time he opened the door, there was a beating behind it ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 02:24:17 asciilifeform: it was enheartening tho when diana_coman ate ffa 1-19 and commented. apparently it was edible by at least 1 . (even if took a maffs doctor )
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 09:23:33 diana_coman: there is always (and still available and I'd like to see it taken by phf, yes) the place in other castles; so I suppose, if one must answer the question, the threshold as I see it atm = reaching to ban from *other* castles.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 13:17:36 asciilifeform: diana_coman: changed how ? grow extra pair of hands ? a tree-proof arse ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 12:56:02 asciilifeform: diana_coman: the trigger for the entire episode. was the loss of the logger .
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 12:20:12 diana_coman: asciilifeform: that wasn't at all the issue and it has been already pointed out to you several times, here and on trilema.com
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 11:52:55 diana_coman: asciilifeform: for the other thing, the situation you describe can indeed very well happen and yes, a problem, but the solution can never be "restrain your adverse reaction"
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 11:19:51 asciilifeform: diana_coman: let's reformulate. it takes a very long time to produce 1st class people. (as a pedagogue, you know this.) if they burn up faster than they are produced -- this is a problem.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 09:52:19 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-11#1935464 - hm, this sounds to me like the fundamental difference causes/purposes all over again; you are looking at what is needed (work done and done well!) and that's your start, so you build backwards, ending up with basically "too needed to fail" sort of thing.
asciilifeform: it was enheartening tho when diana_coman ate ffa 1-19 and commented. apparently it was edible by at least 1 . (even if took a maffs doctor )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, standard wasn't ~properly~ described. standard was described at fucking all, i don't need to explain the difference between your logger which diana_coman 's running now and phf's alleged logger which, for all anyone knows, consists of one mechanical turk who meanwhile got sad / ran away.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 09:44:24 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-11#1935455 - fwiw I don't think anyone contested the quality of the technical work done by phf.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 09:23:33 diana_coman: there is always (and still available and I'd like to see it taken by phf, yes) the place in other castles; so I suppose, if one must answer the question, the threshold as I see it atm = reaching to ban from *other* castles.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: yw. when we crack the url puzzler and import era1 , will also need historic bots in there.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-12 15:13:13 asciilifeform: ACHTUNG, panzers! lobbes , diana_coman , et al : reader.py on dulap updated to lobbes's raw-export-fix. vtree page updated w/ lobbes patch and lobbes , asciilifeform , sigs.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: tested, a++ worx
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-12 15:43:45 asciilifeform: diana_coman: compare w/fix vs. your current to see the diff.
lobbes: ty asciilifeform for testin' and signin'. (and ty diana_coman for helping me test earlier)
asciilifeform: diana_coman: compare w/fix vs. your current to see the diff.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: bug was specifically in /log-raw , rather than db (which iirc you ate wholesale, and then manually synced coupla lines during the interval remained )
asciilifeform: ( and apparently when diana_coman synced, got lucky, there were no 'actions' )
asciilifeform: ty diana_coman
asciilifeform: diana_coman i recommend to read & emplace this one, so lobbes & asciilifeform can resync from your /log-raw : the old export mechanism was apparently broken in the case of 'action' lines.
asciilifeform: ACHTUNG, panzers! lobbes , diana_coman , et al : reader.py on dulap updated to lobbes's raw-export-fix. vtree page updated w/ lobbes patch and lobbes , asciilifeform , sigs.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-11 12:56:17 diana_coman: from your paste though, I suspect it's mainly that you missed that part of the README where it says months as NUMBERS.
mircea_popescu: i expect diana_coman 's stable will soon enough surpass all the supposed "utility" you hallucinate in the anal children (much like a demented old hoarder hallucinates "utility" in random junk) ; much like trilema in fact surpassed any whisperer's monument, "against odds" etce
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-10 23:37:58 trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-09#1935205 << where is the leucosys threshold in diana_coman's view?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i wasn't there, at the tea table, so can't say. but fwiw i suspect he thought 'already written off' .
asciilifeform: diana_coman: no, i actually buy your summary, 'd00d wouldn't fucking talk'. but i'm also willing to ask ~why~ didn't talk ? maybe because erry time he opened the door, there was a beating behind it ?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: changed how ? grow extra pair of hands ? a tree-proof arse ?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: to properly colour in this picture -- what would have looked like 'engage beyond the technical' ?
asciilifeform: evidently asciilifeform has diff. reading from diana_coman , of the 'clear' .
asciilifeform: diana_coman: for my enlightenment, plox to summarize, in own words, 'how phf lost his epaulettes' .
asciilifeform: diana_coman: and if yer about to say 'the fact that phf said 10 words in that many months' at one pt same was tru of e.g. trinque . and i suspect if deedbot had been the bot that fell for a week, we'd be having exactly same thread about trinque instead of phf .
asciilifeform: diana_coman: the trigger for the entire episode. was the loss of the logger .
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i am working from mircea_popescu's verdict strictly.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: what detail, in your eyes important, am i neglecting ?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: if expectation is that logging is a 24/7/365 system -- then yes ought to be obv. that it aint a job for 1 set of hands. rather than 'let's put it in 1 hands for years and then say 'saboteur' when he falls down' .
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 11:53:41 diana_coman: you can restrict their access to the danger, but you can't fence in the danger "for your safety and security"
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 11:53:41 diana_coman: you can restrict their access to the danger, but you can't fence in the danger "for your safety and security"
asciilifeform: diana_coman: let's reformulate. it takes a very long time to produce 1st class people. (as a pedagogue, you know this.) if they burn up faster than they are produced -- this is a problem.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-08-11 16:01:10 diana_coman: but it seems it took "diana_coman;is" as nick?
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-10 06:25:00 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-09#1935311 - your znc2tmsr converter; I made initially the same mistake with mine, here's the thread re standard: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-08-11#1927457
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 00:08:43 lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-09-10#1935332 << diana_coman, could you provide me a small snippet of your irssi log that you fed into your irssi2tmsr converter (with both an "action line" and "regular line" example)?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-09 11:40:47 diana_coman: what I can't quite get in all this is why is asciilifeform fighting mircea_popescu's leucocite-qualities so much and at every occasion?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-10 23:53:35 trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-09#1935205 << where is the leucosys threshold in diana_coman's view?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-08-11 16:01:10 diana_coman: but it seems it took "diana_coman;is" as nick?
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-10 06:25:00 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-09#1935311 - your znc2tmsr converter; I made initially the same mistake with mine, here's the thread re standard: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-08-11#1927457
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-09-10#1935332 << diana_coman, could you provide me a small snippet of your irssi log that you fed into your irssi2tmsr converter (with both an "action line" and "regular line" example)?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-09 11:40:47 diana_coman: what I can't quite get in all this is why is asciilifeform fighting mircea_popescu's leucocite-qualities so much and at every occasion?
trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-09#1935205 << where is the leucosys threshold in diana_coman's view?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-10 13:15:14 diana_coman: asciilifeform: that's the minigame.bz -> minigame.biz thing
asciilifeform: diana_coman: aa. indeed loads when s/bz/biz .
asciilifeform: diana_coman: just about ~all since 2010 or so, per asciilifeform's notes. ( invariably there's a pdf turd passed off as documentation, or jpegs for guism, or in device drivers -- magick init binturds ; etc )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: heathen sores tars do tend to contain astonishing volumes of binliquishit. ( or were you thinking of the thompsonistic trap where 'need gnat to build gnat' etc. , rather ? )
spyked: and in other news: Hunchentoot tree updated with a sbcl distribution. ty diana_coman and bvt for the help!
ossabot: Logged on 2019-08-11 16:01:10 diana_coman: but it seems it took "diana_coman;is" as nick?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-09 05:40:26 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-09#1935128 - yes and probably reader-side ie not bot itself.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-09 07:14:41 diana_coman: lobbes: kept meaning to ask - how do you pronounce your surname?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-09 11:03:33 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-09#1935170 - heh, so my reading of it was actually right (latin-based since I couldn't think of any valid English-based reading of it).
asciilifeform: diana_coman: admittedly asciilifeform is not any kind of star pedagogue. but from own schooling, i found much moar memorable the lessons where 'and this is btw is also the tamper equation in hbomb!' than 'you Need To ... for exam!'
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i actually dun know when/how precisely the fella tuned in. but will hazard a guess that it was because he had spark of 'hmm, these folx have working gears'. so i suspect best result with him might be to pour some kerosene on that fire. 'motivation from interest' is 9000x bigger fire than 'motivation from needs-to'.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i generally dun like to 'bring own vows to other's monastery' but wanted to try giving the fella sumthing to chew on. possibly is good idea .
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-09 15:37:48 asciilifeform: meanwhile asciilifeform attempts to teach a short vtronics lecture in diana_coman's school while diana_coman slept .
asciilifeform: meanwhile asciilifeform attempts to teach a short vtronics lecture in diana_coman's school while diana_coman slept .
asciilifeform: diana_coman: just nao read it, and lost what little appetite had
asciilifeform: diana_coman: was just aboutta link.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: 'ratchet must ratchet, so spring -- must spring'(tm)(r)(mp)
asciilifeform: diana_coman: if nuffing counterposes leukocyte -- get leucosys.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-09 07:14:41 diana_coman: lobbes: kept meaning to ask - how do you pronounce your surname?
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-09 08:41:36 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-09#1935128 - yes and probably reader-side ie not bot itself.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-09 07:14:41 diana_coman: lobbes: kept meaning to ask - how do you pronounce your surname?
nicoleci: diana_coman, currently im having issues accessing the shell. this may be a BingoBoingo question. i'll provide a better answer as to which step im stuck on when i get inside.
nicoleci: diana_coman, yes i definitely can use some help
nicoleci: diana_coman, unfortunately i do not have selections set yet
nicoleci: helllo, diana_coman