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mats_cd03: i should probably save these for when asciilifeform is around
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decimation: "If the Treasury were forced to convert the $1.4 trillion in short-term bills (on which it now pays an average interest rate of 0.056 percent) into 30-year bonds at the average rate it is now paying on such bonds (4.919 percent) the interest on that $1.4 trillion in debt would increase 88-fold."
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decimation:
http://oldurbanist.blogspot.co.uk/2011/11/ever-since-euclid.html << " But their view seems to be that so long as the owner remains clothed with the legal title thereto and is not ousted from the physical possession thereof, his property is not taken, no matter to what extent his right to use it is invaded or destroyed or its present or prospective value is depreciated." << progressives have been grinding down the US for a long time
PinkPosixPXE: ben_vulpes: or mod6 you around, doing some adjustments on my script, and had a few questions about the modifications requested, quick questions.
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decimation: who knows how long it can last, but the above debt issue isn't exactly a healthy sign
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PinkPosixPXE: hey thestringpuller, yea, have had a bussy holiday season
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mircea_popescu: so here's an idea i just had : if one were to take a gas with favourable properties (such as high phase lambda, low evaporation temperature, stuff like that) and put a bunch of it liquefied in a canister
mircea_popescu: then open up an outlet in a convenient atmosphere, such as where a mist machine is working, or maybe just very humid tropical climate,
mircea_popescu: as the gas expanding sucks heat out of the canister, ice forms, which insulates, so eventually the gas coming out the outlet is itself supercooled, sucking the heat out of the atmosphere and making ice in random patterns. baiscally, "self-building ice tree"
mircea_popescu: perhaps works even better at the bottom of a shallow lake. "self-reorganising lake".
mircea_popescu: in any case... the high fantasy power of the ice / frost mage, at your fingertips. all you need is a compressor.
mircea_popescu: should make for pretty decent shows for like, corporate parties and expensive weddings and whatnot. And now, Billy Bob, the Ice Mage!
mircea_popescu: jurov: this is the undoing of C.. due to its memory unsafety they must decide to either bloat the kernel or suffer the overhead <<< out of the 10`000 billion lines of commentary written on the "usg is making up money and giving it to redhat to implement its policies ; whereby control economy is now called "do-ocracy" topic the past year or so, yours is the first one to actually be fucking sensible.
mircea_popescu: because yes, there fucking IS more to it than just the politicals of uncle sam going "o hai linux guise, you has some cattle of mine, taking them back kthxbye"
mircea_popescu: undata: please take my course on the above for only 10 BTC << too cheap to work.
undata: mircea_popescu: damn, you're right. priced myself way below the life-coach/motivational market
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: yes because even more pretending will save the world << my fucking thoughts exactly.
mircea_popescu: undata see, this is why you should go work for me making 0.18 btc an hour.
mircea_popescu: while derping at conferences about how you're what was it, "transcending"
gribble: asciilifeform was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 days, 7 hours, 55 minutes, and 32 seconds ago: <asciilifeform> ben_vulpes: i never understood the 'happy hacking keyboard' and imitators. being as i live and die by function keys, the more the merrier. why voluntarily have fewer?
mircea_popescu: this is how i know i'm not a programmer. i have not actually pressed any F key in... uh. months ?
undata: better to program programmers, or so I hear
mircea_popescu: "If the Treasury were forced to convert the $1.4 trillion in short-term bills (on which it now pays an average interest rate of 0.056 percent) into 30-year bonds at the average rate it is now paying on such bonds (4.919 percent) the interest on that $1.4 trillion in debt would increase 88-fold." <<< this is wreaking untold havoc on the entire known world, incidentally .it's not just the disruption it WILL cause as it u
mircea_popescu: that's the small part. the big part is the disruption it has already caused, and it continues to cause each passing day.
decimation: In my opinion, usg's crimes are not 'active' in the sense that they scheme with redhat for evil - usg's crime is that if failed to use the resources and human talent at its disposal to advance the art of computing at all
mircea_popescu: like the stuff discussed above re usg agency redhat, fuycking up linux. EXACTLY the stiuation of the giant ruining a chair.
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: linux is a nice comfortable chair. after red hat is done sitting in it, it will perhaps be still usable. maybe. like the woman that delivered a baby hippo will still make a good wife.
mircea_popescu: add to that all the idiots living off "free money" that was GIVEN tro them, while selling themselves on and trying to sell everyone else on how they're "making a positive impact"
mircea_popescu: the sheer amount of plain idiocy being imported into the software of the world by this avenue far exceeds all the idiocy that could ever be imported into openssh or the kernel.
mircea_popescu: because people do this, there's idiots whose careers are entirelyt constructed out of "advising start-ups", like undata is keenly aware.
mircea_popescu: there's nothing more corrosive to a state, and a society, and ultimately a culture, than fake money. it's the curse of fucking doom, you don't even need enemies if you got that.
undata: mircea_popescu: it makes people unable to think!
decimation: a very small part of the us population has any idea what it really means to economically run a business (turn a profit), and that part isn't in power
mircea_popescu: it's like nobody bothers to wish ill on the cancer patient. that's why russia and china are not even remotely interested in a large scale war.
decimation: heh china is happy to buy the paper actually
undata: I have literally screamed "We need to make money!" at multiple jobs before setting out on my own.
mircea_popescu: and, unlike the fucking pretense and idiocy now current in the white world,
mircea_popescu: neither russians nor chinese are all that ethnically blind.
undata: the US "tech economy" is filled with rabbits who think the food and water just fills itself.
mircea_popescu: the day will come when being white will actually be exactly what the white supremacists feed themselves out of fearing : a handicap.
decimation: undata: from the outside, I've see the 'startup' debt-funding culture creates all sorts of weird behaviors
mircea_popescu: undata pretty much, it's almost as if cazalla's farm decided to enact itself into a "tech scene"
undata: when I was 19 I was drummed out of a ruby on rails startup for my aforementioned rant
decimation: like, why not re-engineer a product from scratch when we could buy it off the shelf, because we have slaves working for us and we don't need to show positive cash flow!
undata: the company collapsed a month or two later
undata: they were seeking being bought out as their only strategy
mircea_popescu: perhaps not understanding that "give me free money" only works for that kid, with the truck.
undata: doesn't seem like you can correct "cannot think"
decimation: as Mr. Yarvin (and many others) have pointed out, the bottom line is that the us as a going concern (then entire economy) is a money losing proposition
undata: or to be more specific than that, it's "thinks his own imagination somehow directly affects reality"
mircea_popescu: decimation since carter at least. yes. and there's no way out of this.
mircea_popescu: nor, since there's no way out, is there any incentive to do anything but worsen it.
mircea_popescu: yes, you can't readily cure magic. which is why africa is and will remain africa.
decimation: nope. His analogy was something like: if you have a russian factory that's losing money - you take a haircut on operations and attempt to make it profitable
decimation: if that fails, the most rational option is to split up the assets and sell them off
decimation: which is kinda happening to the us on a slow scale
mircea_popescu: incidentally, all the people trained to hate the supreme sacred congregation of the holy office and their historical activities :
mircea_popescu: the rteason the civilise west exists is specifically because fucking idiots got burned at the stake for being fucking idiots.
undata: terrible gardening, letting anything grow anywhere it wants
mircea_popescu: undata yeah. good luck moving lovage, mint, rosemary, walnuts, etc.
decimation: natural law re-asserts itself, eventually
mircea_popescu: yes, it's a landmark failure of the us legal system to protect the us the us pretends to be.
mircea_popescu: obviously sin breeds sin, had the generation of justices called to protect their country in the 1920s done a good job of it, the following generation wouldn't have seen itself confronted with "the government has stolen people's gold, whatcha gonna do about it"
mircea_popescu: "Why? I think there are several reasons. One is that being mean makes you stupid. That's why I hate fights. You never do your best work in a fight, because fights are not sufficiently general. Winning is always a function of the situation and the people involved. You don't win fights by thinking of big ideas but by thinking of tricks that work in one particular case. And yet fighting is just as much work as thinking ab
mircea_popescu: out real problems. Which is particularly painful to someone who cares how their brain is used: your brain goes fast but you get nowhere, like a car spinning its wheels."
mircea_popescu: apparently graham has not done his pascal reading. how about that lol.
mircea_popescu: "Another reason mean founders lose is that they can't get the best people to work for them. They can hire people who will put up with them because they need a job. But the best people have other options. A mean person can't convince the best people to work for him unless he is super convincing. And while having the best people helps any organization, it's critical for startups."
mircea_popescu: this is like saying "you can't get cool people to hang out in places where there's fire because fgire burns".
mircea_popescu: depends a fucking helluvalot WHAT, or as the case may be whom. the "best people" that are attracted to spineless idiots are never successful.
mircea_popescu: the people who manage to distinguish the effectually ruthless from the merely psychopathic always come out ahead, whether they're otherwise great or not, intelligent or not, whatever their situation may be.
mircea_popescu: there is of course also this (perhaps not entirely uninterested, perhaps even progressive-wetdream, perhaps actually correct) theory that ruthlessness rusts over time, and in the end you're always left with a psychopath.
mircea_popescu: of course, even should that be the merely unavoidable flow of things, proposing to stick with "nice people" as a palliative is not unlike proposing to stop eating because well, eating will in due course bring about your death.
mircea_popescu: at least, this was the approach favoured by socrates and his school (platon, aristotel). which brings us back to the problem with paul graham : he is exactly the sort of scandalous ignoramus the us produces these days.
mircea_popescu: the problems he considers are in fact very rudimentary restatements of ancient considerations, and his complete unawareness of the space readily gives me ground to say "being a progressive makes you stupid".
punkman: he has all kinds of stupid essays
mircea_popescu: that problem, you know ? "o noes, james smith has reinveted the wheel!"
mircea_popescu: "come see paul graham read aramaic at the bottom of his start-up hat, and then translate it with the herpimm and the derpimm, two magical entrepreneurial stones from ancient egypt."
decimation: heh well maybe he found it on a random hill
mircea_popescu: anyway, looking at it from the other angle, "check out what incredible cultural gymnastics the socialists need to justify and defend their ludicrous dogmas"
mircea_popescu: indeed : in order for the "only nice people" mantra to be "supported" after a fashion, one needs to be not only completely ignorant of the classics, but not even realise that the fucking central subject both in their writings and in their own, stated estimation, was "how to rule people", and this is in no small part a consideration of what they call "mean".
mircea_popescu: a total fucking misnomer, by the way, what they mean is "ruthless". mean denotes something else, it's a sort of spiritual cheapness.
mircea_popescu: i get why it'd be nice for ruthlesness to carry the connotations meanness properly does. however, something being nice doesn't really do anything. if only it did, then the nice people'd be like mages, calling forth reality out of their fucking song.
undata: this "niceness" thing strikes me as a euphemism for obedient, if not to an explicit master then to the ubiquitous American religion of going with the flow
decimation: the us is ruled by the ruthless; they just never show their face to the public and never appear on camera
undata: portland tech startups are filled with such pussies; people are astoundingly offendable
mircea_popescu: well, it's difficult to circumscribe it, seeing how it's a word with no definition enacted by usage of a tribe that's not particularly thinking-inclined. but i would say "niceness" mostly denotes a sort of bovine passivity.
mircea_popescu: basically, it'll build a great 1700s india, this niceness.
undata: nobody will fight with you in a US tech company
mircea_popescu: decimation everything everywhere is ruled by the ruthless. that's why the simple were promised the kingdom of heaven
undata: I am too young to know whether this was always the case
decimation: well, Mr. Yarvin is quick to point out that it only took 1000 british civil servants to rule all of said india
undata: but I've always wanted to be in an environment where people would fight each other for the best idea
decimation: the whole idea of democracy is that the true power is obfuscated
mircea_popescu: in the simplest form : "don't call us, we'll call you"
mircea_popescu: to be unidirectional it has to manifest some subset of properties of invisibility, somehow.
decimation: yeah, power without some kind of exclusivity isn't power
decimation: yeah reading what some of them think it's obvious they spout nonsense
decimation: so, the head guy is a lawyer who assisted with the ron paul campaign
undata: also demonstrates the pervasive belief that talk = action
undata: "having your voice heard"!!!
undata: reminds me of the idiots that marched in downtown portland in response to ferguson
undata: you know, in an orderly fashion, mostly obedient to cops, etc
mircea_popescu: yea, wat then ? god'll think you'r somewhere between offensively stupid and hysterically funny.
decimation: yeah, that's their exact problem, if they were to take any document-able action it would be counted as treason and usg would slam down
undata: mircea_popescu: wow... "god" the imaginary aggregate of democratic demands
undata: certainly, it's just sickening
mircea_popescu: that figure is always the same figure, not like psychology is now going to fucking progress or something.
mircea_popescu: and besides, very deeply human thing, someone on his knees in a church or behind a tree or somehting, "please, i can't take this"
decimation: gentleman appears as a noble act of charity, compassion, etc, to the coarse and cynical peasant reveals itself as a purchase of political power, with his tax dollars if not his physical safety. Therefore a vision of the gallows arises in his hindbrain."
undata: mircea_popescu: seems like a person who has been broken merely by realizing the fact of his own existence
mircea_popescu: there is nothing besides the fact of one's own existence.
undata: what kind of animal is that
mircea_popescu: well... you know that saying that, "given an artefact and a situation, the artefact will either work or it won't" ?
decimation: heh well he didn't have much in that direction
decimation: pretty much "the peasants realize they are being fucked and are pissed, but can do nothing"
mircea_popescu: see, it's a summary, for sure, and it has what to stand on, but it's not necessarily the case that its footing will support any ulterior conclusion.
mircea_popescu: so it's one of those, "maybe, depends where you aim to take it"
mircea_popescu: looky at a simile : two hot 17 yos : a redhead with perky tits, a brunette with butt to die for.
mircea_popescu: the one (or the other) sees true love. the other (or the one) sees just sheer stupidity on his part and the nefariousness of that one (or the other) witch.
decimation: Yeah that's a good point. It goes back to the position of the french nobility ca. 1789
mircea_popescu: if obama comes to power and gives a bunch of tax money to a bunch of cronies, the democratic activists will see justice being done, and the republicans corruption.
decimation: Possibly. I get the feeling that republicans tend to be more ideological though
decimation: well, one can ask humans what they think, but does that reveal anything?
mircea_popescu: "Tom Reagan: I am awake. Tad: Your eyes are shut. Tom Reagan: Who you gonna believe?"
undata: the ideology of both parties is selling the US out to whoever has paid them
mircea_popescu: this, incidentally, underpins all winner-loser scenarios on the broader timescale in all politcal systems to date.
mircea_popescu: the losers are "principled" and the winners are distributing largesse out of the public goods.
mircea_popescu: because an election still is an advance auction of stolen goods.
mircea_popescu: so you know, either the redheaded or the brunette is busy squealing, while the other's sitting in a corner thinking of jesus and sin.
mircea_popescu: and for that matter : in the 70s ? dude totally the voter agreed "philosophically" with the progressives.
undata: yep, things like "o no abortion" on the "right" are just marketing
undata: though the marketing is getting less effective, it seems
undata: whether that's an opportunity for something better to come along is questionable imo, and goes back to the "can't think" problem
decimation: there's a point to this (the idea that the losing party claims 'philosophic victory'). but there's a long tradition of 'old republicans' predicting doom which more-or-less came true
decimation: undata: abortion is a complex issue that ends up being used as a wedge on both sides
undata: the "paleo-conservative" thing seems to be on the way out with my grandfather's generation
undata: he was involved with the "american party" back in the day
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decimation: perhaps it is dying (or dead) - but to me that means the idea of 'america' as anything more than a pile of spoils to be divided is dead
undata: even the "right" is way too socialist to advocate "american capitalism", if there ever was such a thing
decimation: agreed. There was a time when this wasn't the case, but those guys are nearly all dead now
undata: my grandfather (who I admire) was largely ignored in the 70s
undata: forget trying to get people excited about free markets today
undata: hell to most of the people alive, that's the rational position to take
undata: if they had to compete, they'd lose
decimation: 'american capitalism' did exist, in the sense that a little over 100 years ago, people used gold coins (or receipts for the same) and private bank notes
decimation: in retrospect the seeds of of ruin were already sown - but that time existed
undata: video isn't terribly convincing
undata: interesting, I wonder what that group will evolve into
ben_vulpes: undata: did you hear about the part where the "protesters" briefly endeavored to get up on the highway and were chivvied similarly politely back onto the surface roads by the 5-0?
ben_vulpes: lulziest part of the whole action in this area
ben_vulpes: and yet plain wrappers stopping traffic on burnside for no discernible reason; idling in SWAT gear on grand
undata: these kids... a "demonstration" as a fucking social-signaling ritual
undata: now the cops, they sound like they actually demonstrated something
decimation: well, the aging hippies who run usg like to see a few protest-arrests on a resume
mats_cd03: b-but think of the instagram and snapchat pics
ben_vulpes: i'm sure it was a good time for all involved. joints, flasks, conversation that all agreed on important topics...
mircea_popescu: <decimation> there's a point to this (the idea that the losing party claims 'philosophic victory'). but there's a long tradition of 'old republicans' predicting doom which more-or-less came true << same for the left.
mircea_popescu: predicted doom can always be satisfactorily claimed to have come true, which is why it's been a favourite sport all along
mircea_popescu: <decimation> undata: abortion is a complex issue that ends up being used as a wedge on both sides << abortion is only "complex" because it is undefined. the actualy issue is, who owns the woman. if the husband owns the wife "abortion" is no problem. if the wife owns the husband, idem. nonsensical "middle of the road" dualities that can't stand, where the wife is really a husband all by herself, except not really are ne
decimation: well, that doesn't settle the issue of whether abortion is moral, but it certainly extinguishes "but it's a woman's right!" argument
mircea_popescu: it makes the "abortion is moral" debate what it belongs being : a moot question.
mircea_popescu: societies where husbands own the wife are always in a dire shortage of men
decimation: wasn't this pretty much settled law everywhere in europe before 1800?
mircea_popescu: well, it's settled law to this day pretty much everywhere.
mircea_popescu: there's a few jurisdictions scattered around counting a few hundred million souls that are trying an experiment on the topic currently
mircea_popescu: undata> hell to most of the people alive, that's the rational position to take >> quite.
mircea_popescu: the only thing here is that the opinions of the idjits don't actually count tho.
mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> i'm sure it was a good time for all involved. joints, flasks, conversation that all agreed on important topics... << notice what the cocktail party of the 70s has turned into.
mircea_popescu: because socialism always moves on to the cheaper alternative, this being the true definition of progress. "where your dad had crystal glasses and imported liqueurs, you now get asphalt under the elements and a half-dung joint"
decimation: where one carefully condemns the horrible behavior of white cops while studiously ignoring the horrible behavior of black 'civilians'
ben_vulpes: "CAN'T SORRY GHETTO'S ON FIRE GOTTA GO WALK AROUND ABOUT IT"
ben_vulpes: subject of crystal, i was washing one out this evening and it struck me how fragile all of civilization is. take that glass - wash it in water too warm or too hot or switch the temperature too abruptly and the thing will whine and fall apart in your hands.
punkman: I got a set or two, they usually survive small falls
ben_vulpes: doesn't lead crystal risk dosing the users with lead?
ben_vulpes is ignorant of all the finer things in life
decimation: 'mericans only have time to make money, not enjoy it
ben_vulpes: hey so punkman you need a vps or what?
punkman: need to write new code, got time to work on it today
punkman: but if you wanna setup secure box for the IRC bot part, that'd be welcome
punkman: I'll split up the web part
ben_vulpes: i ain't setting anything up but i can spin you up an aws box of your own
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decimation: ben_vulpes: did you try one of those 'vultr' vpses?
punkman: nah, I'll put it on my DO account so I don't have to bother anyone
decimation: well, it seems like the ddoser has taught us that aws is pretty solid
ben_vulpes: decimation: nope. bezzle hosting gets paid for with bezzlebux.
mircea_popescu: "[3] Peter Thiel would point out that successful founders still get rich from controlling monopolies, just monopolies they create rather than ones they capture. And while this is largely true, it means a big change in the sort of person who wins."
mircea_popescu: ahahaha this is the lulziest bit of the entire senile-graham wankfest.
mircea_popescu: so wait, the "gilded age financiers" DIDNT create the railroad monopolies ?
mircea_popescu: jesus the sort of brainrot. see kids, i have another reason to crack down on socialism, and an additional argument to use when I do : socialism makes you stupid.
mircea_popescu: it takes a graham as he was in the 80s and produces the barely cognizant empty shell that will make junior-high level errors in his ill thought out essays.
mircea_popescu: it takes astute practical thinkers like the buffett of the 70s and turns them into "i believe in america and carbon tax credits!" sort of al gore marionette.
mircea_popescu: "I think you make an excellent point, but all these cases are examples of guys who got a seat on a rocket and were pretty ruthless about who else got to ride."
mircea_popescu: and if you make a business, you didn't make that business. and really the political problems of the us are whether black dudes pee correctly and how someone drew a cartoon character's tits.
mircea_popescu: in no case anything like "an immense horde of absolutely nil idiots expect everyone to believe the world exists to serve them"
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PinkPosixPXE: actually, haha, I think I have seen this, wow, I have to watch this again
PinkPosixPXE: perhaps with my friends come over tonight to have treats, cider, and hang out by the fire/watch something, I will throw this on :)
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PinkPosixPXE: haha mircea_popescu, yea, me and my little dog
PinkPosixPXE: he's tiny, if i tried to jog him around a track he'd be exhausted 1/4 of the way through
PinkPosixPXE: The stats look great, for a nice straight forward numerical trending display
kakobrekla: can i get a TA opinion kthx. < new year is close.
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mircea_popescu: myeah with all the new tlds i expect per domain registration to drop around $1
kakobrekla: even at 10-20 they pick up a lot of them to squat on
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mircea_popescu: nobody is ever going to give a shit about a domain name enough to pay for it.
mircea_popescu: "Still, with a small $10 registration fee, and the fact that I need fodder for this blog, I decided to venture out and try my luck with .link. Of the 11 I found available, I decided that only six were really worth the gamble."
kakobrekla: there wasnt much choice left for "b-a"
PinkPosixPXE: twitter handles are becoming the new domain names to 'camp' on and resell
PinkPosixPXE: makes me wonder if I should start registering a few
kakobrekla: interestingly, 'bitcoin-assets' non .com tlds got squated a week after i registered .com
mircea_popescu: people were doing that on myspace, coupla years or so before it ended
kakobrekla: bitcoin-otc shorthand domains is b-otc right? so we could go with b-ass which is pronounced 'bias'
PinkPosixPXE: irc.b-a.link would probably be acceptable, subdomain it. unless you don't want to for some reason.
mircea_popescu: anyway, fuck.link would be a decent dating site domain.
kakobrekla: yes topcoin. some fake crypto currency pegged (?) to a dollar at some registrars. they give it away for free.
PinkPosixPXE: another altcoin it seems.. 'top' as in 'top level domain/tld' is my guess ? hrm
kakobrekla got topcoin when he bought b-a.link lel.
mircea_popescu: lmao so what exactly is going on in the brain of the link people ?
kakobrekla: Why Offer Topcoin Instead Of A Rebate Or Coupon Code?
kakobrekla: As More New GTLDs Launch & The Marketplace Gets More Competitive, Registries Increasingly Will Turn To Promotional Discounts And Registrar Rebate Programs To Sell More Domain Names. The Problem With Discounts Is That They Devalue Your String, And The Problem With Rebates Is They Often Are Not Passed On To Registrants.
kakobrekla: anywho i got those from uniregistry registrar
kakobrekla: so i kinda gave them a pass on this topcoin bs
mircea_popescu: so some french footballer was attacked with a knife by his ex.
mircea_popescu: she carved him a new set of gills, yet guy won't file a complaint.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58815 @ 0.00035779 = 21.0434 BTC [-] {3}
adlai: and today we learned the origin of his current scam's name!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68086 @ 0.00035435 = 24.1263 BTC [-] {2}
adlai is too far from the UI world to do anything on this front, but it's a cool idea
adlai: last one done's a rotten egg!
adlai: it's far from ideal, but I can imagine much better ways of integrating the "spritz" window with a wider view of the text (or an outline)
kakobrekla: few people produce texts worth more than that
adlai: putting it on a ridiculously high WPM is quite similar to skimming
adlai: this = CSP? it's a little dense book, been needing an excuse to read it for a while...
assbot: Logged on 30-11-2014 17:39:08; kakobrekla: dont read this.
adlai: it's also a little nefarious that they want registration for any speed outside their narrow little free zone
adlai wouldn't pay for any such technology that couldn't cope with figures in the text
adlai: they have free accounts but you need to register
adlai: "If you’re looking to implement our patented technology into your website, application, mobile app, ..."
adlai: "squatters" may not apply when the troll in question also collected the tinder and set the kindling himself, but they do seem quite set on artificially limiting the values for a single parameter in clientside code
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 96450 @ 0.00035025 = 33.7816 BTC [-] {2}
ben_vulpes: kakobrekla mircea_popescu: i had to rebuild my 0.5.3 chain from scratch, but your(pl.) DB_CONFIG tip freed my vanila 0.5.3 build to unwedge progress to 254471 as of this morning (ping: asciilifeform, mod6)
kakobrekla suspects you do not have to go fron scratch - when i got stuck and added the settings it looked pretty bleak for some time, but after some hours and a restart the thing jumped.
ben_vulpes: mebbe i'm just impatient or on shoddy hardware
ben_vulpes: but i restarted it a few times and waited a few days to no avail
kakobrekla: im doing this on a vps instance with 512 mb ram, cpulimit @ 5% and killing & restarting the thing every 6 or so hours
kakobrekla: well i have a copy of the chan at 200k
ben_vulpes: off the cuff, cpu trying to get a lock at 252450
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 375.25, Best ask: 376.25, Bid-ask spread: 1.00000, Last trade: 376.25, 24 hour volume: 3606.92762642, 24 hour low: 373.37, 24 hour high: 381.99, 24 hour vwap: 376.136078914
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00035014 / 0.00035569 / 0.00036273 (1240852 shares, 441.36 BTC), 7D: 0.00030027 / 0.00038196 / 0.00046844 (8786401 shares, 3,356.13 BTC), 30D: 0.00030027 / 0.00049581 / 0.00086038 (25973035 shares, 12,877.75 BTC)
kakobrekla: that pdf is very close to breaching 'readsy' patent no?
mike_c: kakobrekla, any chance I got de-whitelisted from bitbet? I've been failing every hourly update since..
kakobrekla: no ban that is placed lasts more than 1h
mike_c: right, but if you ban me every hour.
nubbins`: if anyone's looking for an xmas gift that probably won't get to you by the 25th
kakobrekla: i decided ill equip the bitcoin newbs with trezors for new years gifts
gribble: asciilifeform was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 days, 21 hours, 18 minutes, and 16 seconds ago: <asciilifeform> ben_vulpes: i never understood the 'happy hacking keyboard' and imitators. being as i live and die by function keys, the more the merrier. why voluntarily have fewer?
adlai: so there's also
http://readsy.net/ "inspired by Spritz before developers could sign up" but it's a little rough around the edges
adlai wonders whether readsy.co and readsy.net know of eachother
adlai: we're running out of these webby names
nubbins`: i know you guys generally aren't into ephemera
nubbins`: but FYI, i'm negotiating a price with a buyer now for my genesis block newspaper (the times jan 3 2009)
☟︎ nubbins`: if anyone wanted to extend an offer, now'd be the time
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 75300 @ 0.00035436 = 26.6833 BTC [+]
ben_vulpes: nubbins`: i'm a bit surprised you're not holding onto it for another decade
nubbins`: i don't really want to have to care for it
nubbins`: it's been sitting on a piano bench in the box i received it in for a few months now because there's nowhere for it to go
nubbins`: anyway, if YOU wanna hold onto it for a decade...
ben_vulpes: i don't have any truck with atoms any more
punkman: can you trezor without the web2.0?
ben_vulpes: let's be clear tho - that's a failing build, and i've not backported any of the tests yet.
ben_vulpes: i explained to the business partner last night why the full test loop could be as long as two weeks
mircea_popescu: <adlai> we're running out of these webby names << yeah, too hard to keepy addy y to namseys
kakobrekla: punkman im quoting here > You can use the python tools to do anything with the Trezor, but there's no user interface for (most of) it currently.
kakobrekla: just ordered 6 of them, will see how this goes.
kakobrekla: The seed is generated at initialization time on the computer. Isn't that unsecure?
kakobrekla: It is actually the only security weakness of a Ledger Wallet. It is very important to initialize your wallet on a secure computer.
☟︎ cazalla: given total lack of news this weekend, not much else to do but dig this morning
kakobrekla: fiat scammers coming to bitcoin ... is getting boring
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00035956 = 3.9192 BTC [+]
ben_vulpes: "girl, go run around the block 5 times and skip the cake this christmas."
kakobrekla: i looked at that yt and i dont understand what did i just see
cazalla: kakobrekla, he is/was into the church scam
cazalla: yes but typical scammer often attends church as to appear pious and incapable of being a scammer because.. jesus
cazalla: ben_vulpes, as in the above, not that he scammed the church itself
ben_vulpes: is life group 9 some new kind of jeezo scam?
adlai: everybody needs to get their thetans back in line sometimes
ben_vulpes: (compilation in different environments is hell. HELL I SAY. especially this warty cpp.)
ben_vulpes: empty dirs not committed to vcs -> build failure
mod6: great work ben_vulpes
ben_vulpes: it would be cool if assbot could watch the jenkins rss
mircea_popescu: nothing up here but trees and bears, no jobs, no high speed internet to speak of, can't even get decent cell service up here. Though for the day! Having my own t-3 pipe put in, and then I can offer real high speed internet. This is not the place to live if you are a high end gamer......... << lol real german angry kid up there.
ben_vulpes: lol no not specifically - probably before my time. but i've played derivatives i think
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kakobrekla: and to think mp almost kicked her out!
kakobrekla: yea, i guess sarcasm doesnt always travel well over irc.
kakobrekla: anyway still waiting for you to spit out the format for builds notifications
jurov: better than "therealbitcoin" at any rate
kakobrekla: >Adlai maintains a git repository of merged patches
adlai: oh I deleted that since it seemed there was no interest in using it
kakobrekla: i think adlai removed it after asciis bitching
kakobrekla: these lisp guys ... 'nobody submited a patch in 4 and a half minuts...!' and 'only one download first day' is 'project dead dood'
ben_vulpes orders foamed wheat and corn product for delivery so that he can stay at the computer
kakobrekla: and the foundations 10btc should be spent on japanese toilets
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 93774 @ 0.00036277 = 34.0184 BTC [+] {3}
adlai: kakobrekla: well there was some active opposition to using vcs for this project
adlai: considering the reasons behind this opposition, and a bit of research, led me to the conclusion that darcs should be used for this, or no vcs, but probably not git
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50948 @ 0.00035647 = 18.1614 BTC [-] {3}
ben_vulpes: adlai: vcs can be used for collaboration and the cooking up of patches, but the publically distributed stuff's gotta be a vanilla source tree and patches.
adlai: if there's interest in using a git repo for this, I still have the git repo locally
ben_vulpes: i appreciate it, but don't worry about it.
adlai: although it has the patches in the wrong order so to do it properly would require starting from scratch anyways
adlai throws the first version away, anyways.
adlai: is there some name for that last candle?
adlai: opening below the last low, not even making it up
kakobrekla: the consequence of market closing over weekend
adlai: having been led into the wonderful world of finance from bitcoin, it's funny to see markets that don't trade 24/7
adlai: closing over the weekend is one thing... closing EVERY NIGHT!? crazy
adlai: what am I supposed to do if I wake up in a cold sweat at 3am and want to get rid of all my TSLA?
adlai: speaking of markets that close over the weekend, what's the status on that less-painful API for bit4x?
mike_c: the swiss scammed gold?
tandacoin: hello I would like to write for qntra
tandacoin: i have read logs of bitcoin assets but i'm not sure how to get word of trust
kakobrekla: talk to one of those two people or mircea of he shows up
cazalla: tandacoin, stick around, i need to finish current article and then head off to a pokemon meetup, speak to BingoBoingo if you cannot wait (if he is around)
tandacoin: I am the writer for altcoinpress.com
tandacoin: How much did coinroll pay to advertise on qntra
kakobrekla: for qntra related questions wait for some q people
cazalla: tandacoin, that'll be included in november's report
cazalla: kakobrekla, ben_vulpes, nintendo are holding some pokemon event today, so i gotta go get the eon ticket or i won't be able to catch 'em all
cazalla: tandacoin, we don't focus on alt/scam coins btw
cazalla: unless it is relevant to bitcoin itself, example being group abc scam a bunch of btc to start their own scam coin
tandacoin: counterparty for example is a good coin
tandacoin: ive used them for ages and hashstaker is going to make so much money it sold out in hours
☟︎ cazalla: "i've used them for ages, i've made a profit".. famous last words
cazalla: tandacoin, clearly you are too stupid to write for qntra but thanks anyway
tandacoin: we get 4k pageviews a day how muh do you get?
jurov: ben_vulpes: yes. i'll look why it did not associate patch with signature
tandacoin: you guys have no idea how to do business or journalism, im not going to waste my time with u
cazalla: tandacoin, well maybe read logs/blogs and you can learn a little