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asciilifeform: interesting how a closed-source browser is still so beloved
kakobrekla: its not so beloved.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform antiques.
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BingoBoingo: punkman: A number of the AMD Thinkpads don't or at least shouldn't have that (May lack that and possess something else). I think the X140e is the newest of that bunch.
mircea_popescu: so i google to find if i ever reviewed boiler room, the movie. what do i find ?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-06-2013&bots=true#102590
ozbot: #bitcoin-assets log
mircea_popescu: prolly should be in the scientology thread, doing the guy's research for him.
mike_c: lowlife goatherder. harsh!
mike_c: wow, there are over 1m goats in romania.
mircea_popescu: how the fuck do you know that ?!
mike_c: random internet page of course.
mike_c: http://ercg2014.org/goat-breeding-in-romania/
ozbot: Goat Breeding in Romania | ERCG 2014
mike_c: how could it not be true?
mike_c: "The number of goat is about 1220000." hehe
mircea_popescu: reason i ask is, recently the government was embarassed to all hell
mircea_popescu: because it couldn't produce a total figure for porcines in the country
mircea_popescu: notwithstanding they do expensive tagging and whatnot.
mike_c: pigs i can't help with.
pankkake: I saw The Wolf of Wall Street. first part felt like Bitcoin
mircea_popescu: animals have individual health bulletins
mircea_popescu: pankkake since you mention it, http://trilema.com/2014/the-wolf-of-wall-street/
ThickAsThieves: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/28/us-usa-spectrum-channelsharing-idUSBREA0R1Q120140128
ozbot: U.S. wireless group proposes TV channel-sharing pilot
ThickAsThieves: theyre gonna broadcast on same waves to prove it can be done
ThickAsThieves: bets wall st portrayal is American Psycho
ThickAsThieves: best*
ThickAsThieves: :)
pankkake: I am so many trilema articles behind
mircea_popescu: one can not keep up
mircea_popescu: my mother can not keep up
pankkake: hm. so I should get a slave to TL;DR it for me
pankkake: maybe I'll read that Asylum thing on my ereader
mircea_popescu: seems to me if you pay a woman to read trilema a slave is you.
mircea_popescu: she gets all the fun
pankkake: anyway I liked TWoWS, weird as I both dislike movies about drugs and di caprio. technically the movies good without making sense
pankkake: I wish there was more emphasis on the actual financial part
mircea_popescu: dude...
mircea_popescu: idiot kid is shown droping acid or w/e pre exam
mircea_popescu: then he "passed it"
mircea_popescu: magically.
mircea_popescu: like that.
mircea_popescu: what's this, like a telenovella, people are supposedly working but nobody does anything ever.
pankkake: I'm not used to read long things on a computer. Except amateur porn stories I guess
pankkake: actually that's how I started to learn English outside of education :D
mircea_popescu: jesus.
Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu, have you watched Black mirror yet ?
mircea_popescu: nop
Apocalyptic: some material for trilema articles in there imo
mircea_popescu: i don't really do tv series
mike_c: i hope you weren't saying you didn't enjoy boiler room. granted, it's not good film, but it is enjoyable.
Apocalyptic: nor do I, but i'm kinda sure you'll like this
Apocalyptic: it's not even a tv serie as in the episodes are completely unrelated to each other
Apocalyptic: consider it a set of mini films
pankkake: seems like the twilight zone
mircea_popescu: mike_c marginally.
KRS1: mircea_popescu: did you at least do breaking bad?
mircea_popescu: it's pretty bad. one can enjoy the invasion of the alien robot gorillas too,
mike_c: only if done entertainingly though.
mircea_popescu: KRS1 i went through a few of that and game of thrones during an hour once
mike_c: ah, you did like the sting though. great movie, also with some odd plotlines.
mircea_popescu: the sting was good
BingoBoingo: mike_c: Does this link work for you? http://www.totalwebcasting.com/view/?id=nysdfs
mike_c: yeah, but i couldn't see the video because it was on edgecast. on a different connection now and it works. thanks for the link.
BingoBoingo: mike_c: You are welcome. All of these verbal tics... I dunno if I can actually transcribe this chairperson. Maybe wait for official transcripts or Odesk, then correct the inevitable mistakes?
punkman: Apocalyptic: Black Mirror was fun, especially the first one: "a much-loved member of the Royal Family, is kidnapped. For her safe return, the Prime Minister must have sexual intercourse with a pig on national television."
Apocalyptic: yeah
Apocalyptic: the second one was good too
Apocalyptic: kinda captured all murica there
Apocalyptic: and brilliantly executed
mike_c: heh. odesk is probably best to keep sanity intact.
Apocalyptic: seriously mircea you're missing out
mircea_popescu: ok ok. teh point is made.
BingoBoingo: mike_c: Reminds me of that Nefario video
mircea_popescu: from mike_c's earlier goatlink : "The number of goat is about 1220000."
mircea_popescu: much number...
punkman: a goat conference you say
punkman: sounds interesting
punkman: do all animals have a conference?
mircea_popescu: pretty much all professions have a trade rag and a trade show
BingoBoingo: I have to wonder is a single Winkelvii incapable of undertaking any action on their own?
punkman: I thought they were conjoined
BingoBoingo: If people don't take care to contain the spread of Winkelvii http://www.atlasobscura.com/places/world-s-largest-organism-2
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mike_c: ;;bc,24hprc
gribble: 839.04
nubbins`: prc
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25650 @ 0.00088683 = 22.7472 BTC [+] {5}
nubbins`: price rub cocks
mike_c: bitcoincharts seems to be up, but not mpoe
mike_c: google needs to get those internet blimps out there already.
punkman: http://www.alternativepig.eu/home.html
ozbot: Home
asciilifeform: silly, everyone knows that 'alternative' pig is: 'long.'
punkman: so, the US has a patent for weaponized boar taint
Duffer1: i feel there's comedy in there somewhere
punkman: http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect2=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=/netahtml/PTO/search-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&d=PALL&RefSrch=yes&Query=PN/6386113
asciilifeform: alpha-androstenol ?
ozbot: United States Patent: 6386113
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 100 @ 0.00460061 = 0.4601 BTC [-] {5}
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 5 @ 0.10700519 = 0.535 BTC [+] {3}
BingoBoingo: Huh, I should have went to this NY DFS hearing.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21600 @ 0.00088852 = 19.192 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: About 26 minutes into the second session (the one with Mr. LiteCoin) the person chairing the committee suddenly seems to reveal he has more insight into how mining works than any of the witnesses.
BingoBoingo: reeses: Mr Litecoin http://gawker.com/jury-reprimanded-for-laughing-at-alleged-sheep-fucker-r-1510835023
BingoBoingo: *re: Mr Litecoin http://gawker.com/jury-reprimanded-for-laughing-at-alleged-sheep-fucker-r-1510835023
BingoBoingo: Judie Rinearson may be the most informed witness on the Mr Litecoin panel, for suggesting that to run a BTC-Fiat exchange you ought to already have substanitial piles of both.
BingoBoingo: Carol VanCleef and "passing the private keys" might be worse than Mr Litecoin. I though only Cascascius moved BTC by passing private keys around.
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asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: cascascius is a plot to further holography (and microscopy, and possibly metallurgy) research. with gigantic bounty. you read it here first.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I think this is the first time you said so in such a blunt way. Before it seems you pushed people to read between the lines.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: everyone is invited to draw his own conclusion. note that physical reality doesn't care about intentions.
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BingoBoingo: physical reality suggests not eating for a month would be a horrible way to die and people talk about that. A much worse way to die physical reality suggests might be gorging of food for 30 days with an orfice sealed by either cyano acrylate or sutures preventing bowel evacuation.
BingoBoingo: People talk about starvation though
BingoBoingo: No one talks about forced GI obstruction
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: not to nitpick, but people who actually suffer GI obstruction, when they succumb, it is of starvation (digestive tract then only works in 'reverse gear')
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Much of the time. Othertimes though they succumb to sepsis due to things tearing. Depends on how low you place the obstruction.
BingoBoingo: Age might be an important factor in this though.
BingoBoingo: Fucking retardation from Mr Litecoin "It only matters reimbursing that dollar amount" That is Usagi fucking losing 90+ % of fund value is a victory logic.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: curious - why do you care what goes on in that circus?
Duffer1: i'm having trouble figuring out which circus is being discussed here
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I'm following the circus because I think appearing at a later incarnation of one of these hearings might be a fun way to break my pseudonymity.
BingoBoingo: I would like to advance at one of these hearings the position that "bitcoin doesn't much care about you"
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: like any good story, this one must be 'shown, not told'
asciilifeform: the most educational possible outcome of the circus is: use of bitcoin is banned under penalty of cranked impalement - and continues enthusiastically regardless.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Sure. I would like the chance though to add some theater to one of these circuses though. A chance to go on the record seems like it could be fun (even though right nao by being in this channel I am on the most important record atm.)
BingoBoingo: It seems pretty clear though than many people on the NYDFS committee though likely hold more BTC than these witnesses though.
asciilifeform: best propaganda, as always, is 'propaganda by the deed.'
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BingoBoingo: Witnessing at one of these committees and not doing this retarded thing people who imagine themselves public speaking capable do where they simply read prepared statements verbatim could be educative to prevent future Amir Taaki and Charles Lee situations.
asciilifeform: what are the chances of something other than a scriptable muppet being invited ?
BingoBoingo: I wonder if any of these people speaking has ever had to handle a classroom where one has to anticipate any degree of retardation and ignorance from student questions.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I imagine such chances are low. That is why I kind of hold this out as a bit of a dream.
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BingoBoingo: Maybe if Illinois has one of these things I could find myself invited. Illinois is rather similar to NY. Both States are giant wastland with Giant cities occupying a small portion of the waste.
BingoBoingo: Maybe the biggest difference comes from settlers in Illinois having become victims of a native joke and naming Chicago after the region's natural onion stink.
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BingoBoingo: My big complaint about these hearings is that the only thing close to "I don't know how your assumptions could be so broken that you describe reality with such retarded lenses" seems to be coming out of the fucking regulators on the dias.
BingoBoingo: mike_c: Being 10 minutes out from catching up with the Day's proceedings I imagine Odesk will probably be too slow and too shitty (the second point is never a question with Odesk)
mike_c: you might be surprised. i've hired some odeskers for transcribing before and it worked pretty well. hit and miss though i'm sure.
BingoBoingo: Maybe my world has been small but I have never seen quality work transcibing done by those who are not extremely poor and brown or the other extreme which is incredibly professional court reporters.
mike_c: i'm sure they were poor. i did not pay much.
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BingoBoingo: Poor isn't necessarily the greatest problem maybe. Probably desperation might be bigger.
BingoBoingo: THere's a bit of overlap here that makes the right attribute hard to sus out.
asciilifeform: gonna be tricky to hire these folks for speech transcription once they start mining SlaveCoin.
asciilifeform: (a SlaveCoin would, hypothetically, do to human labour what bitcoin did to computing power)
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Bodypart coins see so simpler though. Value through removing value.
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asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: complicated. people would plunder every graveyard they can find before selling their own parts.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Bag of preservative with integrating cutting mechanism.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: reminds me of an ancient chinese weapon i once read of
asciilifeform: a 'field guillotine'
asciilifeform: sack, attached to a spring-loaded gadget reminiscent of a camera aperture.
BingoBoingo: Kind of what I imagined. Dunno how many ways there are to imagine such a thing though.
asciilifeform: two leap upon the victim, hold him down, while a third operates the snipper.
asciilifeform: then present head to buyer.
BingoBoingo: Dunno how many recyclable parts are actually present in the head though.
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BingoBoingo: 85 minutes into the hearing, saving coins creates a weird dynamic
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.04899999 = 0.784 BTC [+]
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 5 @ 0.04360003 = 0.218 BTC [-] {2}
herbijudlestoids: ;;lastseen vexual
gribble: Error: "lastseen" is not a valid command.
herbijudlestoids: ;last vexual
herbijudlestoids: ;;last vexual
gribble: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message (1 more message)
herbijudlestoids: ;;last --in vexual
gribble: Error: 'vexual' is not a valid channel.
herbijudlestoids: oh for fucks sake
herbijudlestoids: anyone seen vex?
Duffer1: ;;seen vexual
gribble: vexual was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 12 hours, 26 minutes, and 38 seconds ago: <Vexual> my axe
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 17 @ 0.049 = 0.833 BTC [+]
herbijudlestoids: thx
herbijudlestoids: he asked me if i could convince a friend of mine to accept bitcoin
herbijudlestoids: now he does
herbijudlestoids: www.larridinya.com
assbot: Listing exchanges on #bitcoin-assets - requested by mariorz
assbot: Exchanges:
assbot: - MPEX: http://mpex.com - IRC handle: mircea_popescu
assbot: - Havelock: https://www.havelockinvestments.com - IRC handle: topace
assbot: - BTCTC: https://btct.co - IRC handle: burnside
assbot: Brokers:
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BingoBoingo: Obama is just phoning it in. This has to be the least relevant SOTU in decades.
Apocalyptic: he's broken some records, that one is not surprising
BingoBoingo: Here's a hint, Americans who work in solar and whose jobs can't be outsourced operate squeegees
BingoBoingo: Apocalyptic: He talks so much about the economy and energy so far. He's pretty powerless nao on those things. The only thing he could actually do without outsourcing to wishful thinking would be to legalize the wacky tobbacky
BingoBoingo: I don't even know how he can talk about immigration reform without rescinding airport rape stations.
csu: lol @ airport rape stations. so true.
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herbijudlestoids: compare oblabla to this SOTU http://www.eisenhower.archives.gov/all_about_ike/speeches/1953_state_of_the_union.pdf
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21650 @ 0.00089012 = 19.2711 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 42 @ 0.00285 = 0.1197 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32600 @ 0.00089162 = 29.0668 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: I watched the State of the Union so You don't have to http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/01/29/the-worst-state-of-the-union/
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.41800003 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.41233332 = 3.711 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00089087 = 4.8998 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 500 @ 0.00082055 = 0.4103 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14300 @ 0.00089466 = 12.7936 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.049 = 0.49 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31000 @ 0.00089125 = 27.6288 BTC [-] {2}
KRS1: .bait
ozbot: http://24.media.tumblr.com/1415504e8984ededadefffe0151c5c27/tumblr_mmbbbmHd571qfaf1fo1_500.jpg
KRS1: Vaginacam.
KRS1: .bait
ozbot: http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lor140QP0n1qe6ke5o1_1280.jpg
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28200 @ 0.00089113 = 25.1299 BTC [+] {2}
lolstate: ;;seen ThickAsThieves
gribble: ThickAsThieves was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 9 hours, 2 minutes, and 18 seconds ago: <ThickAsThieves> :)
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17500 @ 0.0008866 = 15.5155 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 343 @ 0.00289899 = 0.9944 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.43 = 3.44 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.43 BTC [+]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13550 @ 0.00088432 = 11.9825 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.43 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 64 @ 0.00445 = 0.2848 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 8 @ 0.02999996 = 0.24 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=435263.msg4809695#msg4809695
ozbot: Personal responsibility and inept Bitcoin jesusing
mircea_popescu: dude mpoe-pr brings out the best in people.
mircea_popescu: anyone ever knew the noobs can be that cool ?!
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Prollu because this time she isn't shitting of their favored scams?
mircea_popescu: now that may be.
mircea_popescu: shittingb on them > shitting on their fav scam of the time.
mircea_popescu: at least themselves, they know that sucks.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9250 @ 0.0008842 = 8.1789 BTC [-]
punkman: https://medium.com/p/24eb09e026dd
mircea_popescu: "Furthermore, notice that a winning bet of .011 returns less than the bet itself (despite its weight), if you even happen to get it. Something is clearly seriously wrong with that guy!! It would be nice if someone were to hack him (and all companies industrializing/profiting off the bitcoin with expensive rigs) and donate the bitcoins to charity (bitcoin100 or etc)."
mircea_popescu: check out the revolutionary minded scum.
mircea_popescu: this is the reason i do not wish to live in a world without opression, and this is why bullshit like "social justice" is outright immoral.
mircea_popescu: some people should be oppressed, and currently are not oppressed nearly enough.
mircea_popescu: punkman obviously, twitter and dns are shady services open to hackers and drug dealing.
punkman: I like that it still takes a few phone calls to steal whatever
punkman: nice domain you got there, shame you are not using it
punkman: I'll just take it
BingoBoingo: punkman: Amazing how GPG could have prevented that disaster.
jurov: or at least 2FA. not the backdoored google kind
punkman: BingoBoingo: well not if they just change your key when you call them
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo amazing how if you don't offer people any way to change their account they'll be unhappy.
mircea_popescu: this is the reason why, however.
BingoBoingo: punkman: No one gets to change keys though unless they can sign the change with a still older key of theirs.
punkman: BingoBoingo: of course they do, "hey guys dog ate my key, can I change to this new one?" "ok"
BingoBoingo: punkman: And you revoke it by shear number of keys you exclusively control, or your identity is essentially dead. Not lost. Dead.
mircea_popescu: punkman people totally misunderstanding what customer service is.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23665 @ 0.00088479 = 20.9386 BTC [+] {2}
punkman: mircea_popescu: what customer service?
punkman: they got too many users to give a fuck
mircea_popescu: well yes, customer service : hire a bunch of veggies to go "yes sir, sure sir, can do sir" to anyone walking in
mircea_popescu: regardless of anything
punkman: and they call it "live" support.
punkman: even if all they do is write an internal support ticket on your behalf
mircea_popescu: the test cheating mentality : they aren't trying to deliver, they just try to hack into your measures and make it seem like they do.
punkman: said message being "mr manager, dear customer says problem"
mircea_popescu: like, you imagine that talking to someone is more likely to resolve anything ? fine, they'll train dogs to talk to you.
mircea_popescu: hacking is a much larger part of corporate culture than corporations willingly admit, even to themselves.
mircea_popescu: the same people who indignantly protest to the judge that random guy "hacked into their computers" just spent the entire day trying to hack their customers.
nubbins`: "can we disable the user's back button?"
mircea_popescu: yexactly.
nubbins`: fun fact, i once refused to make a code change on moral grounds
mircea_popescu: the amusing part, of course, being that cheating ACTUALLY IS being clever, but only IN SOME CONDITIONS.
nubbins`: ^
mircea_popescu: by completely abandoning a critical review of those conditions, and instead going with formalisms, like
mircea_popescu: "cheating X way good, cheating Y way bad"
mircea_popescu: the results are appaling.
mircea_popescu: this situation exactly mirrors the situation in speech, where people imagine "being nice" or "polite" consists of never using word X, such as nigger or fucktard, rather than, you know, actually being nice/polite/whatever
mircea_popescu: the results being again appaling.
nubbins`: being "professional"
mircea_popescu: myeah.
nubbins`: "where did this $9t go?" "we currently don't have that information until we finish our review" etc
mircea_popescu: "professional" is "guy in a suit". pure cargo cultism.
nubbins`: i was ruminating on this the other day
nubbins`: strange creatures, humans
mircea_popescu: the obnoxious part is that i wear suits. always have. i was a highscooler with a three piece suit.
mircea_popescu: i happen to like them. but wtf is with all these weasels!
nubbins`: flapping your face = doing business
punkman: I like this: "being friendly: looking out for your interests. being polite: obeying social decorum."
mircea_popescu: lol where's that from ?
punkman: being polite is useless mostly
nubbins`: ^ this shows a fundamental misunderstanding of human nature
punkman: mircea_popescu: not sure I got it from here, but google says: http://sebastianmarshall.com/friendliness-and-politeness
nubbins`: being friendly: having a lel. being polite: inviting others to have a lel.
mircea_popescu: btw, if anyone wants to see me with a fro... http://trilema.com/2011/fototeca-de-haur/ i just dug it up
nubbins`: sebastian marshall had a lel writing that, and we had a lel reading it
nubbins`: we are friendly and he is polite!
punkman: that's a good fro
mircea_popescu: im not friendly! who is this guy
nubbins`: you're downright amicable. don't kid yourself
mircea_popescu: lol
nubbins`: http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/eu-tinar-8.jpg
nubbins`: "where are his arms? why is a laptop hanging from his belt?"
nubbins`: <- no coffee yet
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: laptop utility belt, now that's an idea.
mircea_popescu: and speaking of ideas, i can't believe nobody invented the spots solarium yet.
mircea_popescu: you could have the light concentrate in particular places, make the girls look like leopards naturally.
mircea_popescu: i bet you there's good money in that.
nubbins`: mottled skin looks diseased
mircea_popescu: not if the spots are large enough
mircea_popescu: if they're say 2x2 to 3x5 or so they look... you know, like a leopard
nubbins`: http://www.truehealthclinic.org/images/vitiligo_c_p_BEFORE.jpg
nubbins`: yep, majestic hunter
nubbins`: you'd need to keep tanning the same spots too, so you'd end up with your skin prematurely aged in certain areas
punkman: you could take a vinyl body suit and cut some holes, wouldn't be very comfortable to tan in
nubbins`: wrinkle spots by age 30
mircea_popescu: you just get one burn-in session
mircea_popescu: then come back next year for a new configuration
nubbins`: http://radiantskinclinic.com/resources/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/Skin_Lightening_Category.jpg
mircea_popescu: i guess this is why, gotta keep changing the machines
nubbins`: look at my beautiful leopard spots ;(
KRS1: ;[
mircea_popescu: nubbins` pick a younger one.
nubbins`: time for brekkies
KRS1: .bait
ozbot: http://24.media.tumblr.com/c0436fd40234a5f84fd9db3b5ad611a7/tumblr_mexoihHqBQ1qzaab4o1_1280.jpg
KRS1: you are hawt nubbins
punkman: .bait
ozbot: http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ma13iuiAeD1r6bw5mo1_1280.jpg
punkman: http://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/first-ever-porsche-rediscovered-electric-power-1898-200915772.html
ozbot: First-Ever Porsche Rediscovered: Electric Power from 1898 - Yahoo Finance Canada
mircea_popescu: so it looks like argentina will be getting a currency reform
mircea_popescu: that's the fifth or so peso they ruined, those people.
Duffer1: andreas antonopolous talked about that a bit recently in an interview with joe rogan
Duffer1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cexawnOlR8&feature=youtu.be&a
ozbot: Joe Rogan Experience #446 - Andreas Antonopoulos - YouTube
Duffer1: it's a good interview if you need to brush up on some good sounding talking points
mircea_popescu: uh lol ☟︎
mircea_popescu: from cnn right after the O speech last night: I think I’ve said before that I think a speech by Barack Obama is a lot like sex. The worst there ever was is still excellent, and I thought he gave a very competent performance tonight”
mircea_popescu: dude, poor brejnev. he never had such fluffers.
BingoBoingo: The wonders or beauracracy: Fill out the form or devise your own identical form http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2014/01/little_sisters_contraception_mandate_case_it_s_about_more_than_just_a_form.html
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo that entire dispute is pretty much a testament to how fundamentally unworkable the system has become
mircea_popescu: can you explain to me what it's about ?
mircea_popescu: i mean... i don't get it, i consider myself educated and so forth but i can't come to a conclusion
truffles: an intellectual but not a genius :D
mircea_popescu: are they saying "we don't have to sign something we don't want to sign because jesus" ? is it mopre like "we don't want to say anything definite about abortion in writing because we can't grok the consequences" ?
mircea_popescu: it half reads like "forms make baby jesus cry" tbh.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Basically some group had a religious objection to a form (they were nuns) . They pretested the need to complete the form in court. The court said well, you don't need to do that form, but you can fill out this identical form we imagineered or produce your own identical form. (the form relating to some Obamacar Birth Control thing)
mircea_popescu: no i know the generalities.
mircea_popescu: but WHY did they protestg, what's being objected to exactly ?
BingoBoingo: Well, that they have to fill out a form to not cover birth control for their employees.
BingoBoingo: Basically there being a form at all seems to actually make Baby Jesus cry was their argument.
BingoBoingo: Not that they had to cover the birth control, but that there was a form.
mircea_popescu: and how's a court supposed to rule on that ?
mircea_popescu: they need the fucking rota.
kakobrekla: they checked for tears
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: "sorry, no tears were found. case dismissed"
kakobrekla: yea
mircea_popescu: btw, i hear you should be hacked.
mircea_popescu: and the monyz distributed to charity
kakobrekla: hm?
mircea_popescu: on robinhoodtalk.org
Duffer1: sherif mcpopescu
kakobrekla: first time i hear it
Duffer1: of nottingham
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=431273.0
ozbot: Ripped OFF by bitbet.us
Duffer1: scrooge mcpopescu - L. Ron Popescu - now Sherif Popescu
kakobrekla: aha, derps herping about derp
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla nono. derps HERPING about derp.
kakobrekla: :p
mircea_popescu: isn't it sheriff ?
mircea_popescu: who stole my other f
Duffer1: how dare you spellcheck me
mircea_popescu: you buncha commies. you redistributed it did you
Duffer1: ha
kakobrekla: lmao
assbot: Last 18 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1575146/plain/)
mircea_popescu: !b 18 ✂︎
truffles: sad display circle jerk
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.43 = 8.6 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: I am sad to announce that I don't want to bet on this superbowl. When the most interesting player is the fucking underdog's cornerback... I'm out.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you know, i burned a lot of cycles on the subject of why the fuck sports bets are faring so poorly on bitbet.
truffles: betting on sports is like watching money leave pocket
kakobrekla: >Furthermore, notice that a winning bet of .011 returns less than the bet itself (despite its weight), if you even happen to get it.
mircea_popescu: the obvious explanation, and perhaps the likely one, is that bitbet just isn't particularly central in the betting space.
kakobrekla: LMAO
BingoBoingo: truffles: I'm net up on the past year
kakobrekla: "Hi, im a brick, i have opinions."
truffles: sample size 1 year
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Prolly bitbet isn lagging on sports because it is too good at finance
mircea_popescu: however, it may also be that SPORTS BETTING isn't central. or in other words : the focus on advertising, scandal and bullshit, as wel las changing social mores and expectations have pretty much killed that model.
truffles: lemme know in 3 or more
mircea_popescu: nobody cares anymore about sports, and the bets continue sort-of by inertia, like investment in yahoo continues.
Duffer1: MP or there's not enough sports book being made to attract a betting crowd
mircea_popescu: so in that theory, they will exist in old venues (like days ago someone mentioned old style phone service that's still continued . to the death of the captive customer)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00437075 = 0.2185 BTC [+] {5}
mircea_popescu: but in new venues it ain't happening.
mircea_popescu: Duffer1 nowhere ?
BingoBoingo: Well, of course it is inertia. It also pulls the sports bettors to more dangerous venues that offer lines on as many competitions as possible, as opposed to safe ole bitbet that only tries to offer profitable competitions
BingoBoingo: Basically Bitbet is too responsible to attract sports bettors.
mircea_popescu: so perhaps a correct model could be, "sports betting consists of people who lived in the 70s, had fun with bets in the 70s, continuing to do what they did then, where they did it then"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.43099999 = 4.31 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: if that's the case, a start-up hoping to get that market on a new model would be kinda doomed. the paying customer is too old to move and the young customer does not exist.
BingoBoingo: Prolly and nao where it interesects with bitcoin includes you kids who wish they were in the 70's so they could sync iPods on their PDP-11
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo but there are plenty of insane bets on bitbet
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.43624848 = 8.725 BTC [+] {6}
ThickAsThieves: [07:25] <mircea_popescu> you buncha commies. you redistributed it did you <<< There is no escape from decentralization, chaos is nature after all!
mircea_popescu: perhaps not the right kind of insane.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Right, but I imagine most sports bettors never had the money to make a dent in the 2B difficulty bet.
Duffer1: bets not being created doesn't necessarily mean lack of interest in betting with bitcoin, if there was a specific section dedicated to live odds sports book it just might attract more people
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.44649998 = 4.465 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15600 @ 0.00088522 = 13.8094 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: Duffer1 there's at least half a dozen diff sites that tried - and failed - to live on that model.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: As far as football this year goes though, the NFL has had one on its most boring years in history.
Duffer1: i wouldn't know, just a thought ^.^
mircea_popescu: the problem is this : other than the intrinsic unfairness to the bettors of the line model, it also requires VERY highly skilled people working for the hgouse, and non stop.
mircea_popescu: you can't afford to pay for these without volume.
kakobrekla: bah fuck you, now i replied.
BingoBoingo: Last year Ray Lewis was in the Superbowl for stabbin bitches. This year Richard Sherman is in for yelling.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 16 @ 0.4596874 = 7.355 BTC [+] {6}
mircea_popescu: if you don't pay for them, then you'll get raped.
herbijudlestoids: you dont think HFT bots can handle the job mircea_popescu?
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids on whose software ?
BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: They those bots have openings too.
ThickAsThieves: <mircea_popescu> nobody cares anymore about sports, and the bets continue sort-of by inertia, like investment in yahoo continues. <<< maybe it's like the forum sports betting is just a buncha scammers and noobs alt-betting
mircea_popescu: hft bots aren't a magic amulet, like "bitcoin makes me anon so i can buy drugz"
herbijudlestoids: i guess ot make a good bot would require similar investment to having good people
BingoBoingo: HTF bots get owned by Slow penetrating bots
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: it's a war race.
herbijudlestoids: good bot+infrastructure
herbijudlestoids: arms race?
herbijudlestoids: yea
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i have no idea what's going on, tbh.
ThickAsThieves: it's really way simpler an explanation
ThickAsThieves: you have no exposure to the sports betting audience
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.51416231 = 5.6558 BTC [+] {4}
herbijudlestoids: moral of the story: just like all other businesses, an appropriate level of investment is required to have a successful outcome
BingoBoingo: I mean the people who claim to bitcoin sportsbet seem to overlap with the BTC poker people
ThickAsThieves: they dont even own bitcoins
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves this is factual. the question of interest however, is if such an audience even exists, and other such things.
truffles: betting site but doesnt know market hmmm
mircea_popescu: truffles nobody knows the market. some people admit to it.
herbijudlestoids: ThickAsThieves: if you offered them a betting model that has a lower house commission, etc they might be very interested
ThickAsThieves: it's like trying to sell truffles at a Patriots game
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids what's the house comission on line betting normally ? 2-5% ?
ThickAsThieves: theyll be like eww mushrooms!
herbijudlestoids: yea about that
truffles: haha
mircea_popescu: bitbet does 1%
herbijudlestoids: but is there good game coverage and high liquidity?
mircea_popescu: the difference to your risk of ruin between 1 and 4% is HUGE
herbijudlestoids: yep
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 58 @ 0.00438319 = 0.2542 BTC [+] {4}
mircea_popescu: it has more liquidity than vegas and no coverage at all
mircea_popescu: in spite of coverage being self-serve.
herbijudlestoids: so then i would posit its simply a matter of marketing
mircea_popescu: bitbet actually PAYS 100 dollars for every bet made, yet people don't make sports bets.
herbijudlestoids: did anyone allocate $500,000 or $1,000,000 to marketing?
mircea_popescu: it would seem so, but i have suspicions that it's simply a question of there not being a market.
herbijudlestoids: hmm
ThickAsThieves: yeah
mircea_popescu: which is a question that has to be resolved bfore i throw money at marketing people.
chetty: The federal agency charged with helping consumers make better financial decisions is facing questions about how it has managed its own money.
mircea_popescu: i have no doubt they can spend it.
ThickAsThieves: dont go marketing truffles to football fans
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00088532 = 11.9518 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 90 @ 0.00438354 = 0.3945 BTC [+] {3}
ThickAsThieves: it makes no sense
mircea_popescu: ahahaha chetty that's gold
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves obviously more research is needed here. for one thing, how do we even know they're truffles.
herbijudlestoids: the other option is ramp the entry costs and target high net worth betters
mircea_popescu: just cause we think we're pretty cool ?
herbijudlestoids: offer the 1% rate as a high net worth perk
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.51677618 = 2.5839 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids i would love to target high net work bettors, strictly to hear why they think it sucks.
ThickAsThieves: well what is the most popular form of sports betting, its that intrade shares shit right?
mircea_popescu: i don't have a book. anyone has/knows someone with a large old style book ?
herbijudlestoids: many moons ago i used to work as an ops guy for a large cable tv company
BingoBoingo: You know for someone who uses shady forum advertised sports books quite a bit... I prolly ought to look harder at who runs them.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves intrade is ded. not sure if popular tbh, but definitely dead.
herbijudlestoids: and one of the security guards happened to be extremely well off, but he worked as a guard to keep the tax offic eoff his back
mircea_popescu: ha.
herbijudlestoids: he owned a couple of horses and was relatively well known with the sydney horse racing community
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14088 @ 0.00088811 = 12.5117 BTC [+] {2}
herbijudlestoids: owners, hedge fungs etc
mircea_popescu: so get him on assets.
herbijudlestoids: s/fungs/funds
mircea_popescu: funguses
herbijudlestoids: one of my friends has my old job, ill ask him if the dude still works there
herbijudlestoids: he *always* used to hassle me about making him an algo to arb the different online markets
ThickAsThieves: just buy a biz that already has sports penetration
herbijudlestoids: ^
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves yes, but i can't do that while random fuckwits keep smoking pot and getting arrested.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00438754 = 0.4388 BTC [+] {3}
ThickAsThieves: aww cmon
mircea_popescu: because i'd have to have a bank do it for me, and i'd have to impose they interface btc, which they don;'t wish to do etc.
ThickAsThieves: is that really you talking?
mircea_popescu: well, what ?
mircea_popescu: you want me to do an acquisition over irc ?
ThickAsThieves: lol
mircea_popescu: i'll need a bank, what.
truffles: fuckwits hmm
herbijudlestoids: fund some geeks in seattle to make the business
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 49 @ 0.00439999 = 0.2156 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: a start-up is not what we're discussing here.
BingoBoingo: I hear Seattle sports teams are cheap
mircea_popescu: i should leverage-buyout the horseshoe.
ThickAsThieves: ok new plan
mircea_popescu: then i'd have their book, go through the past 20 years, talk to everyone.
ThickAsThieves: hire the manager
mircea_popescu: the manager is probably under a contract.
ThickAsThieves: that runs the successful sports biz
BingoBoingo: The Mariners might be 10K BTC this year and 1 K BTC next year
ThickAsThieves: lawyers
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 197 @ 0.00445469 = 0.8776 BTC [+] {7}
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves and anyway, who ?
mircea_popescu: kinda why i'm talking about it. who knows someone ?
ThickAsThieves: you know the imaginary hotshot pro i made up in my head
mircea_popescu: a ok.
mircea_popescu: we making a movie here or what.
herbijudlestoids: hmm lemme ask someone something
mircea_popescu: ask everyone everything.
ThickAsThieves: #1 google return I get is http://www.bovada.lv/
ThickAsThieves: fwiw
truffles: oh look who doest know everything
herbijudlestoids: damn nvm
BingoBoingo: truffles: The things are these are things no one knows
herbijudlestoids: i thought i knew someone in online sports advertising but it was music and the business has been sold to VICE anyway
ThickAsThieves: sports bettings seems like such a chore, gawd
mircea_popescu: it is a fucking chore.
mircea_popescu: buncha old farts who think themselves cutting edge because they sorta-can read the email their granddaughter sends
BingoBoingo: ThickAsThieves: Betting is a chore. I could not imagin the pain of running a venture.
mircea_popescu: except they miss about half the pics, like say the drunken shots of her getting shagged in front of the courthouse.
ThickAsThieves: nah sports is a whole other level of pain
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: what about if instead of a bank
herbijudlestoids: you contacted one of the hedge funds that deals in bitcoins
herbijudlestoids: and asked them to do the accq?
mircea_popescu: the ones that failed to get listed on mpex and imagine they're into bitcoin ?
mircea_popescu: yeah, this sounds promising. and i'll have to do what, explain to them what they're doing wrong ?
herbijudlestoids: yeah, what do you care, you just need a funnel right?
BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: In BTC businesses with funnels die.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 24 @ 0.00468746 = 0.1125 BTC [+] {5}
mircea_popescu: https://twitter.com/Namecheap/status/428158030015107072 << people always know better.
ozbot: Twitter / Namecheap: @Mircea_Popescu LOL, they're ...
herbijudlestoids: i saw on linkedin there was at least one HF looking to hire BTC trader, so someone must be looking to build their book
herbijudlestoids: just a suggestion
ThickAsThieves: maybe you are barking up the wrongs tree
mircea_popescu: maybe so.
ThickAsThieves: why try to be something youre not
ThickAsThieves: exploit something you can destroy at instead
mircea_popescu: because i don't wish to destroy, i wish to exist. bitcoin is essential to this, and so here i am doing things i don't particularly wish to do on their own,
mircea_popescu: so that this thing may ruin the faces and lives of people i don't like.
herbijudlestoids: truly a nobler cause could not be undertaken
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.00479789 = 0.1199 BTC [+] {2}
ThickAsThieves: maybe bitbet can get into some kind of futures offerings
mircea_popescu: i guess. anyway.
mircea_popescu: somewhere there's an old greaseball who knows all the angles of line betting.
Duffer1: TaT like MPEx? hehe
mircea_popescu: there, de niro's character in casino. that guy.
mircea_popescu: i want that guy!
Duffer1: you'll need a joe peschi though too
ThickAsThieves: but mpex is not bitbet
mircea_popescu: no, that's the beauty of it. i won't need a joe pesci.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.51728865 = 10.3458 BTC [+] {4}
mircea_popescu: the entire rest of bloodsuckers is going away. i just need the one guy.
mircea_popescu: that's exactly the engine of this entire thing.
mircea_popescu: firing all those people.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.526675 = 2.1067 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 387 @ 0.00484029 = 1.8732 BTC [+] {13}
ThickAsThieves: lol, the forum whined so hard they got Friedcat to finally comment
ThickAsThieves: poor form
herbijudlestoids: link
ThickAsThieves: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg4816778#msg4816778
ozbot: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It
ThickAsThieves: i've begun to hate that title
mircea_popescu: in fairness the fallout is a lot less than i imagined this summer.
ThickAsThieves: "inventing" starting to feel kike "making it up"
ThickAsThieves: like*
BingoBoingo: As far as cover every even sports betting people go https://bitbook.biz/ has been reliable, but I have no idea if they are running fractional reserve off of some dude who deposited a few hundred BTC last spring and then went into a coma. I just don't trust line sites much after http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/01/05/a-descent-into-scam-bitcoinsports-eu/
mircea_popescu: am shares shed a degree of magnitude, nobody's particularly fazed.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 330 @ 0.00499945 = 1.6498 BTC [+] {10}
mircea_popescu: maybe people are better at pricing the future than given credit for.
ThickAsThieves: "mass delivery date is still March"
BingoBoingo: Oh, Halep plays in 2 hours
ThickAsThieves: March is a date?
mircea_popescu: anyway, anyone here with a salesman's slick and within distance of vegas ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 126 @ 0.00499995 = 0.63 BTC [+] {3}
ThickAsThieves: salesman in vegas? that's another breed
mircea_popescu: 1-200 miles, whatever one drives comfortably.
herbijudlestoids: what are you after? someone who can lay bets off into the casinos?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7213 @ 0.00089423 = 6.4501 BTC [+] {2}
herbijudlestoids: or bookies or whatever
mircea_popescu: no, someone who can go to each bookie, take their main line man out to lunch, hussle him to talk to me.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5637 @ 0.00089478 = 5.0439 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: people are more a resource than cash, yet people steal cash way more often than people.
mircea_popescu: start stealing people.
truffles: make them an offer they cant refuse?
ThickAsThieves: sounds kinda fun, if I were 24 and single
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves indeed. bitcoin is first and foremost fun.
mircea_popescu: truffles no, make them an effort they certainly can't refuse, but won't.
mircea_popescu: certainly can*
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 80 @ 0.00499999 = 0.4 BTC [+] {2}
ThickAsThieves: Specification
ThickAsThieves: Process node: 40nm
ThickAsThieves: Package type: QFN64 8mmx8mm (with another option of QFN64 7mmx7mm possible)
ThickAsThieves: I/O: Standard SPI protocol with clk, in, out and cs.
ThickAsThieves: Rated Hashrate: 12.8GHash/s per chip, with a wide range of overclock/downclock options
ThickAsThieves: Rated Voltage: 0.72V, recommended voltage range is 0.55V-1V
ThickAsThieves: Power Consumption: 0.2J/GHash low voltage, 0.35J/GHash rated voltage
ThickAsThieves: Price range
ThickAsThieves: 0.49$/G-0.99$/G, depending on order size and delivery speed of choice.
truffles: if they knew who u were would they want to work for u :D
mircea_popescu: 4watt chips ?
truffles: i certainly wouldnt
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1495 @ 0.00082053 = 1.2267 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: lol. do you even work ?
truffles: irrelevant
BingoBoingo: I'm about 10x the recommended distance.
jcpham: does it mine the litecoins though
mircea_popescu: hahaha. seriously, do you have any employment truffles ?
ThickAsThieves: truffles is on disability
truffles: :(
mircea_popescu: so he wouldn't work for me because whatever, nor for anyone else for entirely different reasons.
ThickAsThieves: (guessing)
BingoBoingo: I lack the salesman slick though
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10870 @ 0.00088529 = 9.6231 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: that settls that i guess.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo so practice.
mircea_popescu: get a friend, make pitches each day, send me one a week, i'll tell you when you're good for vegas.
ThickAsThieves: if youre american, youve been in training for sales your whole life
BingoBoingo: I guess I'll start practicing this weekend.
mircea_popescu: even if you never get good enough for vegas, it'll help your love life.
mircea_popescu: also ThickAsThieves has a point.
kakobrekla: BingoBoingo, that comment from happy wheels is a spam, you do know that rite?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 24 @ 0.00499999 = 0.12 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: Was it? I just thought they had bad taste in links
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.005 = 0.15 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: the gem crowd is engorged right now
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I guess I'll practice this salesmanship thing. Shame I couldn't be practicing it at this new work circus. I mean seriously public speaking and reading shit verbatim?
ThickAsThieves: they love them some friedcat posts
kakobrekla: ;;google "You really make it seem so easy with your presentation but I find this matter to be actually something which I think I would never understand."
gribble: Anchor Audio BLOG: <http://www.anchoraudio.com/index.php?id=448>; The Logic of Stupid Poor People | tressiemc: <http://tressiemc.com/2013/10/29/the-logic-of-stupid-poor-people/>; Adding MLS on Your Website - Beyond Creative: <http://gobeyondcreative.com/web-design/adding-mls-website/>
kakobrekla: meh, well, you get the point.
kakobrekla: here http://www.google.com/search?&q="You+really+make+it+seem+so+easy+with+your+presentation+but+I+find+this+matter+to+be+actually+something+which+I+think+I+would+never+understand."
ThickAsThieves: http://www.theverge.com/2014/1/29/5356498/eve-online-battle-sees-200000-dollars-worth-of-spaceships-destroyed
ozbot: Spaceships worth more than $200,000 destroyed in biggest virtual space battle ever | The Verge
ThickAsThieves: did you supply the guns mp?
BingoBoingo: ThickAsThieves: If I still was active on Eve the best I could have supplied for that would have been a gnat like thing full of viscious, still more gnat like things.
herbijudlestoids: im a professional spruiker but i already got a job i like and also much further away from vegas :P
kakobrekla: is this how eulora is going to go down? "a village ripped in Eulora, 2000 BTC btc carriages destroyed and horses burned"
Duffer1: that would be amazing
herbijudlestoids: ThickAsThieves: i read about that on slashdot, some interesting comments, some people put the value at half or less, a lot of people mentioned how reading about EVE battles is better than the battles :P
herbijudlestoids: i gotta admit the description of the battle was quite interesting for someone who has never played the game
Duffer1: i "watched" a live stream of the battle on twitch.tv
BingoBoingo: I'm starting to get kind of interesting in this idea of poaching talent from places that aren't East St Louis.
herbijudlestoids: actually thats an idea i had while reading aboutthe battle, game servers people can rent in BTC
Duffer1: it looked like a space themed desktop background rather than a game
herbijudlestoids: lol
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herbijudlestoids: does anyone know who runs freebitco.in?
herbijudlestoids: seems unlike other bitcoin faucets in that it really just is a faucet
herbijudlestoids: all the others you need to click an ad or watch a video or whatever
herbijudlestoids: also i like the simple website
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 41 @ 0.6315351 = 25.8929 BTC [+] {12}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 900 @ 0.00046001 = 0.414 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 80 @ 0.00519874 = 0.4159 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 217 @ 0.00545822 = 1.1844 BTC [+] {12}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 33 @ 0.00568028 = 0.1874 BTC [+] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 62 @ 0.04484043 = 2.7801 BTC [-] {11}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 155 @ 0.00589 = 0.913 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.6498 = 2.5992 BTC [+] {2}
herbijudlestoids: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fortune_%28Unix%29
ozbot: fortune (Unix) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
herbijudlestoids: interesting errata
jimmyjazz: yo
kakobrekla: hi
jimmyjazz: was up
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.63980002 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11350 @ 0.00088948 = 10.0956 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.04899998 = 0.196 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.63980002 = 4.4786 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: >As you saw I sent an email to all FIMB holders regarding repayment. I plan on repaying 50% now and the rest as my personal mining income comes in.
kakobrekla: haha
mircea_popescu: what's fimb even
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.6575 = 3.945 BTC [+] {2}
kakobrekla: garrets second or third scam
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i mostly supply the fuel the stations run on
mircea_popescu: for one of the species (the one everyone plays)
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 230 @ 0.00588852 = 1.3544 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids it's insanely boring, really.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.04899999 = 0.735 BTC [+]
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: what is, sorry?
mircea_popescu: eve
herbijudlestoids: ah right
mircea_popescu: i mean if you're into trading then ok, you got a penny stock market.
herbijudlestoids: im too busy thinking of ideas and then not implementing them because theyre not perfect
mircea_popescu: otherwise it's more like... yea, what Duffer1
mircea_popescu: said
herbijudlestoids: nah, i trade on the regular markets :)
herbijudlestoids: i have a whole farm of algos, waiting for vols to die down on bitcoin before i try them out there
herbijudlestoids: penny stocks not my bag
herbijudlestoids: send me the EOD data for MPOE and i will backtest it against one of the simpler ones
herbijudlestoids: you sould send a couple of BTC to the guy who writes quantmod for R to add feed support for MPEX :D
kakobrekla: lol, the ideas.
mircea_popescu: there's pympex, why should i support the proprietary pastures of the obsolete world ?
mircea_popescu: let them move over.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.67389999 = 6.739 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 492 @ 0.00588943 = 2.8976 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 59 @ 0.049 = 2.891 BTC [+]
herbijudlestoids: hmm ok so this is for trading? im talking about data feed for quantitative analysis...timeseries of the price of the contracts/assets
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.67475 = 5.398 BTC [+] {2}
herbijudlestoids: quantmod has a function getSymbols() so i can pull say, 2000 bars of EOD data for an ETF and run various analysis against it
herbijudlestoids: supports yahoo finance, mysql backend, etc...im just suggesting fund the dev to add support so that it can pull the price feed off mpex with getSymbols too
mircea_popescu: afaik there's some people offering the full history, including kako
mircea_popescu: otherwise you can just query mpex and form your own history.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00289899 = 0.2899 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17000 @ 0.00088529 = 15.0499 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 71 @ 0.00596764 = 0.4237 BTC [+] {5}
herbijudlestoids: kakobrekla: can haz data pls?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00613504 = 0.6135 BTC [+] {7}
kakobrekla: http://bitcoin-assets.com/mpex-socket/
ozbot: MPEX Socket | #bitcoin-assets
herbijudlestoids: anyone doing analysis on this timeseries already?
mircea_popescu: what was mike's blog
herbijudlestoids: so but i need a MPex login for this?
mircea_popescu: http://www.btcalpha.com/blog/2014/when-does-bitbet-money-come-in/
ozbot: When Does BitBet Money Come In? - Btc Alpha
nubbins`: "Of further note, if vegas paid out the way this Matic "Tic, hence bloodsucker" guy pays out, they'd be entirely shutdown in less than 24 hours."
nubbins`: Matic Pitiscu
kakobrekla: tic, sounds like tits but means dick.
mircea_popescu: course matic is not read like mah tick but like mytits
kakobrekla: yea
kakobrekla: mahtitis
mircea_popescu: cause he's such a boob :D
kakobrekla: eh mahtits
herbijudlestoids: i guess no response means im a retard
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids you don't need a mpex acct to read the feed im sure.
mircea_popescu: and a few people are doing more or less something with the data, but there's always room for more
mircea_popescu: an' merrier.
mircea_popescu: global warming hits florida : schools closed down because of the carbon footprint everywhere.
mircea_popescu: personally, i blame dub.
herbijudlestoids: ah it says contact kakobrekla for username
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2500 @ 0.00008142 = 0.2036 BTC [-] {13}
herbijudlestoids: can haz?
kakobrekla: yes, this reading thing, very powerful stuff
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 232 @ 0.00615889 = 1.4289 BTC [+] {2}
kakobrekla: its 1 btc per year iirc
nubbins`: why, that's only pennies per hour!
kakobrekla: indeed
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 1*infinity / 365*24*3600
gribble: Error: 'infinity' is not a defined function.
mircea_popescu: shit.
kakobrekla: lol
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 1*(all the monyz in the world) / 365*24*3600
gribble: Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
mircea_popescu: gribble is not so smart.
herbijudlestoids: i dont want a subscription to the feed, i can append to it manually as necessary but i just wanted a one off dump of the existing EOD data
kakobrekla: i want icecream and b lowjob
herbijudlestoids: if its too hard, nw, just a thought that popped in my head then my plan was always to use the algos on BTCUSD in the future :)
truffles: some ppl want free help but they dont want to give free help
herbijudlestoids: for now they are hard at work on regular markets
mircea_popescu: no rush, rly.
herbijudlestoids: truffles: i happen to think free data is useful and democratising, allowing people like me to do today what was only in the purview of hedge funds and instos just 10y ago
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.66675 = 2.667 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1600 @ 0.00615889 = 9.8542 BTC [+]
AleksG: Hello, Mr. Mircea Popescu. I wrote to you about cryptography. I wrote to you about cryptography. Here you can download a video presentation of the world's absolute cryptographic protection http://rmxcrypt.com/
mircea_popescu: finance and democracy don't mix.
herbijudlestoids: but whatevs, i go where the data and liquidity is, plenty of it around
mircea_popescu: hello AleksG. got a transcript ?
truffles: greed and democracy wont mix
mircea_popescu: "greed" is a meaningless symbol only defined in your own system. it's about as important as flogiston, generally.
truffles: lol
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AleksG: Other information I can send you by email
mircea_popescu: as presented your statement readily reduces to "that which people do which isn't reducible to our own idiocy and our own idiocy don't mix", which further reduces to nonA is disjunct from A. which it is. whoop.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00285 = 0.285 BTC [-]
truffles: guess u want pat on the back for missing the point
mircea_popescu: no, i mostly use you as a cockpuppet to illustrate the concepts involved for the general readership.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.0061 = 0.122 BTC [-]
truffles: sure take 1 or 2 examples to make a point that is unsupported then call it fact right
mircea_popescu: i took an example ?! which /
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.625 BTC [-]
herbijudlestoids: shit guys
herbijudlestoids: dont worry about it
truffles: this is an ongoing argument
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.655 BTC [+]
herbijudlestoids: asking for free data, bad idea, continue with the discussion about vegas or eve or whatever
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids i think we long forgot about that lol
truffles: this is about arguing with a wall
mircea_popescu: but srsly, the data is free, query mpex, get the jsons, store them, in a week or w/e you have your sample.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24900 @ 0.00088758 = 22.1007 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: if you can't wait a week or w/e it takes pay someone who already did it, if you don't like paying wait, whatevs.
herbijudlestoids: ok, i will add it to my TODO, 1am here, almost bed
herbijudlestoids: nah i can wait setup a VM in the dc to wait for me
mircea_popescu: exactly.
kakobrekla: you can also grep logs or chan
herbijudlestoids: this is trueee
kakobrekla: the data on the socket is from late 2012, thats the point. ☟︎
truffles: herbijudlestoids do ulive in america?
herbijudlestoids: no aus
truffles: ok
truffles: u said that yesterday !
truffles: or days ago ..
herbijudlestoids: it was true yesterday?
truffles: nah my unscientific poll that i will randomly keep
herbijudlestoids: vexual is from aus, he lives near a friend of mine and asked me if that friend accepted bitcoin for his jewellery so i convinced him to get a bitpay acct and he did
herbijudlestoids: if anyone sees vexual tell him so pls :P
mircea_popescu: vexual buying joolry now ?
herbijudlestoids: http://www.larridinya.com/
ozbot: Larridinya Carvings Jade and Bone
nubbins`: herbijudlestoids, try ;;later tell vexual hey bru i have something to tell you
truffles: u can do the command
truffles: slow pony
mircea_popescu: is she hawt ?
herbijudlestoids: its a he
mircea_popescu: is he hawt ?
herbijudlestoids: ;;later vexual yo my mates store is accepting BTC now
gribble: Error: The "Later" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "vexual" in it. Try "list Later" to see the commands in the "Later" plugin.
herbijudlestoids: ;;later tell vexual yo my mates store is accepting BTC now
gribble: The operation succeeded.
truffles: forget the tell
herbijudlestoids: i am a spammy cunt, sorry
mircea_popescu: actually these aren't awful. http://www.larridinya.com/wp-content/uploads/lilly-flower-carving2-e1374372458397-700x525.jpg
herbijudlestoids: yes, i know
herbijudlestoids: he is hawt i guess, very smart guy, chemist and biologist who lives in the paradiseyiest bit of aus
truffles: sounds hot
herbijudlestoids: equatorial
nubbins`: i liked australia more when i knew less about it ☟︎
herbijudlestoids: nubbins`: irukandji
mircea_popescu: the best thing about postmodernism is just how nicely varied people are these days.
truffles: jewelry i might actually wear :D
BingoBoingo: The best thing Australia probably produced was this dud http://www.27bslash6.com
herbijudlestoids: i told him to get a bitpay account and bitcoin cunts would support him just for accepting bitcoin
BingoBoingo: *dude
herbijudlestoids: dont let me down, bitcoin cunts
mircea_popescu: he's not australian, he's a brit neh ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Pretty sure he talks about being an Aussie
mircea_popescu: hm
herbijudlestoids: hes aus
truffles: the one on bottom right reminds me of body part hmm
herbijudlestoids: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Thorne_%28writer%29
ozbot: David Thorne (writer) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
BingoBoingo: http://www.27bslash6.com/halogen.html
ozbot: "I cant help it if some of the light goes across the road. Put something up in your window."
truffles: i dont like the shapes though...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 17 @ 0.00615888 = 0.1047 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: i like some of them, but he's only actually selling two
herbijudlestoids: BingoBoingo: the other night you and vexual convinced me to get a WoT account which i dutifully did. i think you were a little drunk. why did i do that?
AleksG: Mircea Popescu, I gotta go, I'm waiting for a letter from you on agclear.energy@gmail.com
AleksG: Keep in mind that this system will make electronic currency Bitcoin absolutely secure
ThickAsThieves: keep that in mind mircea
BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: I was indeed very drunk. A little drunk is what I am nao that I am contemplating bedtime.
herbijudlestoids: secure BTC!
BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: As to why you got the WoT account. Read moar?
herbijudlestoids: BingoBoingo: i stayed on for ages trying to rate you 10, but it kept telling me i needed rating first :(
truffles: ofc mp likes the lilly flower
herbijudlestoids: i was just on there, hoping waiting that you would rate me
mircea_popescu: so weird.
truffles: that looks like a body part
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.63000001 = 4.41 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: Why was I rating you?
Duffer1: why do i get the feeling that guy took a fat shit in your inbox ..
herbijudlestoids: no, you werent!
mircea_popescu: ;;gettrust herbijudlestoids
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user herbijudlestoids: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=herbijudlestoids | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=herbijudlestoids | Rated since: never
mircea_popescu: they did that so in case i go this it may one day not show zeroes
herbijudlestoids: ThickAsThieves: he mentioned to me that he is putting a bunch up soon
BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: I mean what would my reason for rating you have been. DId you sharpie in the pooper or something?
herbijudlestoids: HAHA
herbijudlestoids: no i told you, they dont have sharpies here
BingoBoingo: Some other brand of laundry marker?
mircea_popescu: Duffer1 nah, something off twitter.
herbijudlestoids: you said sharpie
mircea_popescu: bluntie
Duffer1: ah
mircea_popescu: http://www.27bslash6.com/brochure.html this shit should be mandatory reading for forum ceoppets.
ozbot: "Dropshadows lift the type off the page as if they are 3D. You probably don't even know how to do th
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.634 = 1.902 BTC [+]
herbijudlestoids: mueslicoin
herbijudlestoids: hmm, nope
herbijudlestoids: BingoBoingo: where u at? if youre considering bed either must be close by to me or strange sleep patterns
BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: The later.
truffles: ayahuasca vine looks nice
truffles: http://www.larridinya.com/#ayahuasca-vine
ozbot: Larridinya Carvings Jade and Bone
mircea_popescu: he only sleeps when he runs out of hootch
BingoBoingo: !b1
herbijudlestoids: ethanolcoin
herbijudlestoids: hmmm...nope
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6345 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 7 @ 0.02800039 = 0.196 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 85 @ 0.02800005 = 2.38 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 105 @ 0.00615888 = 0.6467 BTC [+] {3}
jurov: in re: user support, one has to talk to aws user support to reveal their VAT reg. number
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3806 @ 0.00089143 = 3.3928 BTC [+]
jurov: instead of them writing it on invoices (as obliged by law, by the way)
herbijudlestoids: a serious alcoholic should own a still ;)
ThickAsThieves: "it just needs to be more branded. If you add more brand without changing the design"
ThickAsThieves: it hurts, mommy
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids he does.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves it gets way better. "They're not hidden, they're on a shelf. Obviously you're going to say my design isn't very good so you can justify charging to redesign it. Everyone who has seen the current brochure has said it is amazing. Ive got a degree in fine arts and I've done an advanced course in Adobe. I probably know more indesign than you do. Art is subjective. I branded it to appeal to our customers, the
mircea_popescu: y don't want modern looking things."
mircea_popescu: truly.
ThickAsThieves: this is why i quit the biz
ThickAsThieves: it's like that, well, every day
herbijudlestoids: and also because the economic profit of designing websites went down significantly?
mircea_popescu: everyone copes in his own way. apparently there's a huge premium the internet puts on coping by insulting and publicly humiliating the stupid
ThickAsThieves: you can make plenty designing websites
ThickAsThieves: if you are a masochist
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 163 @ 0.00615889 = 1.0039 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: but i did more overall branding work
herbijudlestoids: needs moar brand yo
ThickAsThieves: the need to educate your customers is such a burden
mircea_popescu: for some odd reason in romania "brand" denotes the thick of one's arm
herbijudlestoids: thats essentially the technology premium toh
ThickAsThieves: particularly in that you are teaching them something they REALLY dont want to believe
herbijudlestoids: s/toh/tho
mircea_popescu: so that whole discussion is extra funny to me
BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: No need to own a still. Time spent operating a hypothical or alleged still could be better spent on other ventures.
herbijudlestoids: i work in large scale IaaS and its the same, you gotta educate everyone
ThickAsThieves: it gets extra fucked up too,
ThickAsThieves: in that they are soo persistent
ThickAsThieves: you start to wonder if they are right
ThickAsThieves: and whether the whole thing is a joke
ThickAsThieves: (it kinda is)
herbijudlestoids: justuwait, the next gen kiddies will know all our secrets by the time theyre 12 and work for minimum wage to do the same thing
mircea_popescu: this is starting to sound a little too much like popular bitcoin finance.
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids what rattles me is this : how can you sit there and propose democracy as anything but a horror, with this experience ?
ThickAsThieves: i also began to feel guilty manipulating customers to not shoot themselves
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: i think there is a lot to be said for systems with high friction
BingoBoingo: Didn't even have to read Plato
mircea_popescu: why would you want more democracy at all, or any democracy whatsoever in anything you care about at all ?
ThickAsThieves: you dont
mircea_popescu: well i don't.
ThickAsThieves: thats the big joke in entering the graphic design field
ThickAsThieves: kids get into it to express their talent
mircea_popescu: god forbid they start making democracy steak.
herbijudlestoids: complex systems "complicate away" friction and make the system less robust
herbijudlestoids: depart from equilibrium
ThickAsThieves: but that job is all about doing what everyone else ssays
herbijudlestoids: simple systems are robust and do not depart from equilibrium
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves this is a good point actualy.
herbijudlestoids: easiest way to ensure robustness is friction
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids so make them simple rather than open.
ThickAsThieves: then,
ThickAsThieves: even if you make it, to be, say, a Creative Director
ThickAsThieves: you learn that all your designers hate you
ThickAsThieves: for trying to finaly get your way
lippoper: .bait to save the day
ozbot: http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2l566VzXH1r21xm5o1_500.jpg
mircea_popescu: this is why you make your designers work nude and spank them occasionally.
mircea_popescu: then they still hate you but a) you're having fun and b) they also love you.
ThickAsThieves: well
ThickAsThieves: even when you do get one
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6345 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: properly obedient
mircea_popescu: that was the lousiest bait ever.
mircea_popescu: ozbot you're fired.
ThickAsThieves: they leave after a year or two
mircea_popescu: why would they leave ?!
ThickAsThieves: grass is greener
ThickAsThieves: careers
ThickAsThieves: etc
mircea_popescu: how could grass be greener ?
herbijudlestoids: because as it turns out, not *all* jobs are about doing what everyone else says and if youve got talent you can command those jobs
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6345 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: if you don't have the greenest grass wtf are you doing
ThickAsThieves: i had one girl that left to go work with all girls
lippoper: agreed.
ThickAsThieves: i offered to pat more
ThickAsThieves: pay*
lippoper: ozbot give us better
lippoper: .bait
ozbot: http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m089dn2sjd1qelzeao1_500.jpg
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves you should have hired the whole stable.
ThickAsThieves: she said "my boyfriend told me not to accepts"
ThickAsThieves: accept*
lippoper: ok you're truly fired
mircea_popescu: hahahaha
lippoper: that's not even sexy
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 105 @ 0.00615821 = 0.6466 BTC [-] {2}
lippoper: .bait me
ozbot: http://31.media.tumblr.com/8ff0f1e4337870000147b8513470b626/tumblr_mvabis3yck1racc9so1_400.jpg
mircea_popescu: http://31.media.tumblr.com/0311a40c4d0829aa39b18a441eba33c5/tumblr_mj4kfn3AuB1ru15g3o1_500.jpg
mircea_popescu: that's a good safety measure anywya.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves you should have paid her to dump her bf.
davout: let's test it
davout: .bait
ozbot: http://24.media.tumblr.com/495804dd3b9f8cc816518e0564b0aa6b/tumblr_mu3jh5GjSD1r600xqo1_500.png
ThickAsThieves: well remember, she probably harbored hate for me by then
davout: yay, assets became SFW again
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: maybe democracy isnt what i mean. i want more information to be freely available so those who are interested in it can use it to make informed decisions. to "level the playing field"
ThickAsThieves: all my programmers seemed to have insecurity issues
ThickAsThieves: or drinking problems
herbijudlestoids: for example, i have capital
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.6345 = 2.538 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: good help is hard to find i guess
herbijudlestoids: but if i cant efficiently allocate it then i wont allocate it to anything but cash and gold since im risk averse
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids there's a subtle point involved here : back when information cost money you had a bunch of ignoramuses clearly labeled as such and lots of educated people.
mircea_popescu: in the wake of wikipedia you have strictly ignoramuses with delusions of education
herbijudlestoids: really?
mircea_popescu: and a few old people left over. once they die that's it.
asciilifeform: anybody catch this:
asciilifeform: http://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelpeck/2014/01/27/predator-drone-sends-north-dakota-man-to-jail/
ozbot: Predator Drone Sends North Dakota Man to Jail - Forbes
herbijudlestoids: so economists used to be better at predicting the economy and now they suck?
herbijudlestoids: or economists have always sucked at predicting the economy and now we know it
ThickAsThieves: predicting, lol
herbijudlestoids: excuse my colloquialism
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids if you take the whole predictive discourse of economy in 1913 and compare to 2013
herbijudlestoids: forecast
mircea_popescu: you will find a marked decline in the average quality.
davout: wouldn't "forecasting" be a better match?
mircea_popescu: this is BECAUSE a democratic view to specialist fields is harmful for everyone involved :
mircea_popescu: the idiots, the professionals, society at large.
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: as someone who actually sits on SSRN in his free time reading research old and new i kind of disagree
mircea_popescu: well perhaps my view is wrong.
mircea_popescu: maybe someone takes the time to settle this.
herbijudlestoids: i dunno about your view but i am just saying predictive discourse was worse in 1913 than now
mircea_popescu: tho it's a huge task, you can't even read all the deluge of today
BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: Maybe subscribe to some more interesting stuff than SSRN
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids worse, in what measure ?
ThickAsThieves: is it really a prediction if it was the plan all along?
herbijudlestoids: in resolution, accuracy, understanding, etc
mircea_popescu: i strictly mean, average quality went down, in the sense the understanding displayed dwindled. not in the sense better predictions were done
herbijudlestoids: BingoBoingo: plenty of interesting stuff from hedge funds and instos goes up there as working papers daily ;)
mircea_popescu: (the reason you'll never have better predictions is modelled in http://trilema.com/2012/anonimity-or-the-urban-versus-rural-dispute/
mircea_popescu: the part dealing with why technology can't help the police)
ThickAsThieves: "OK guys, everyone processed these stellar news? Let's be optimistic that the driest patch is over, esp. communications-wise. Keep in mind though, the dividends won't rise until April and there still may be weeks of silence where friedcat fixes the last problems"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 98 @ 0.00580002 = 0.5684 BTC [-] {2}
ThickAsThieves: meanwhile http://bitbet.us/bet/740/may-i-suggest-9b-difficulty/
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform kinda not the first, not the last neh ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: IANAL, but this tidbit seems to signal the final, complete death of the 19th century u.s. law known as 'posse comitatus act'
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00088935 = 5.7808 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: that it may be.
mircea_popescu: the notion that the imperial household is in any way limited wasn't doing too well over there anyway.
herbijudlestoids: any chance of having assbot broadcasting in another chan with mode +q set so the logger i setup only stores the orders?
mircea_popescu: was it #bitcoin-assets-trades ?
nubbins`: yes
nubbins`: had to check
herbijudlestoids: sweet
herbijudlestoids: thx
herbijudlestoids: i /whois'd assbot before asking but it didnt show up
nubbins`: probably +s
mircea_popescu: prolly.
herbijudlestoids: ok i will setup a logger before bed i think
mircea_popescu: so 9bn on march is 8:1
mircea_popescu: steep.
mircea_popescu: what good are 3Gh/W chips at 3 dollars each in that context ?
nubbins`: a guy really does lsd in that wall street movie and writes an exam and passes it?
mircea_popescu: nubbins` crack.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://cryptome.org/2014/01/polynominal-time-pkc-attack.pdf
nubbins`: oh well jeez sure
nubbins`: it
nubbins`: 's wall street
mircea_popescu: these people and their pdfs ;/
ThickAsThieves: "If I was inclined to have a boyfriend, I would select one my height and weight to save having to readjust the driver's seat position. I am not interested in doubling my wardrobe as I wear the same outfit everyday to facilitate speedy identification should I ever be in a boating accident."
mircea_popescu: nubbins` dude you ever seen a series 7 ?
ThickAsThieves: I like this David Thorne guy
asciilifeform: RIP McEliece.
nubbins`: not being american nor a stock broker, can't say that i have
asciilifeform: (or perhaps not. seems to rely on bit-errors.)
nubbins`: six hours! oh my
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform is it basically http://www.iacr.org/cryptodb/data/paper.php?pubkey=3559 ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.63499 = 1.27 BTC [+]
nubbins`: you'd crash and burn pretty close to the start
nubbins`: unless you actually did take lsd
mircea_popescu: nubbins` it's like the SAT, except to even show on the scale in s7 you need about 98% on the sat.
nubbins`: in which case the crash and burn would be more like a smouldering fire
mircea_popescu: besides, it costs plenty to even take.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 80 @ 0.002825 = 0.226 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: enough so that most people rely on their comp to pay for it.
mircea_popescu: sort-of like the rhel exams except ^2
nubbins`: heh
nubbins`: actuarial exams are a paid-for thing usually, as well
nubbins`: looked into this some years ago when deciding whether to do statistics or not
mircea_popescu: so are drugs. now, would you take a 20 dollar hit the day of a 20k exam ?
nubbins`: depends, am i a fuck-up?
mircea_popescu: right=o.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 36 @ 0.00615889 = 0.2217 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nope, this one's new.
mircea_popescu: you're not getting a pass. which is you know... wtf, this guy PASSED ?!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.63499 BTC [+]
nubbins`: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=435263.msg4809695#msg4809695
ozbot: Personal responsibility and inept Bitcoin jesusing
nubbins`: if you can pay to remove bans, posts like that should entitle you to a get-out-of-jail-free card
nubbins`: "OP made me feel quite ashamed of how a lot of the listed qualities that i find so disgusting in of the mindsets of some the crypto following, so succinctly described my own actions which i never looked closely, instead just looking at others in contempt."
mircea_popescu: how is she ever getting banned
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.63499 = 4.4449 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: o you mean the noob. mayhap.
nubbins`: not OP, but that reply
nubbins`: heh
ThickAsThieves: "I don't want the next big job creating discovery, the research and technology, to be in Germany, or China, or Japan," the president said
ThickAsThieves: uhhh
mircea_popescu: lol a little late for that.
nubbins`: HEH
herbijudlestoids: k loggin
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.635 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 21 @ 0.00615889 = 0.1293 BTC [+]
herbijudlestoids: i maek u pretty graf
herbijudlestoids: even setup logrotate on the fucker
mircea_popescu: so i was going to go, speaking of imperatOr, here's http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2014#465492 and then highlight asciilifeform ☝︎
mircea_popescu: except assbot STOLE the gist of my message.
nubbins`: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=435263.msg4802685#msg4802685
ozbot: Personal responsibility and inept Bitcoin jesusing
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.63749999 = 2.55 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla you gotta fix this censorsheep!
nubbins`: "seemed to be" ;(
mircea_popescu: !t h am1
assbot: [HAVELOCK:AM1] 1D: 0.40600000 / 0.54752483 / 0.67500000 (304 shares, 166.44754973 BTC), 7D: 0.34000000 / 0.47735293 / 0.70890000 (1936 shares, 924.15527485 BTC), 30D: 0.28090000 / 0.47903449 / 0.74500000 (5435 shares, 2603.55244873 BTC)
nubbins`: <zantafio> i have hundred btc on just dice.. very nvervous right now
nubbins`: i'd be nervous with 100btc on a DICE SITE even if it wasn't down
mircea_popescu: apparently teh ppl liked teh forum post.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` i guess it depends whose.
nubbins`: that's like almost half a house!
nubbins`: "sez here you lost an incredible amount of money to some website. do you know who runs it?" "some guy named doug, i think"
herbijudlestoids: in aus the house price to avg salary ratio is double the US, so 100BTC is like, 20% at best for the value of a house here :P
nubbins`: herbijudlestoids: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2014#465989 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: this would imply aussies avgt salary is 2.5x us
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: GDP/capits is 70k PP USD in AUS and about 49k PPUSD in AUS
herbijudlestoids: s/capits/capita
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 94 @ 0.00615889 = 0.5789 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: wait wut ?
herbijudlestoids: wut wut
mircea_popescu: which is it, 70k or 49k ?
mircea_popescu: schroedingaustralia ?
herbijudlestoids: err sorry lol 49k in US
mircea_popescu: gdp/capita is a poor measure of salaries, anyway.
herbijudlestoids: but in both cases very close to the avg salary
nubbins`: well, what's in an average
mircea_popescu: ro gdp/capita is like 8k. average salary is like 500, minimum wage is a whopping 150 dollars.
nubbins`: know the average income of the city bill gates lives?
herbijudlestoids: some form of aggregate understanding?
nubbins`: s/understanding/data
mircea_popescu: like 2/3 of the population makes that minimum wage.
herbijudlestoids: just checked to confirm US avg salary is $52k USD and AUS avg salary is $73k AUD, evens out to be about 50/70 on a PP basis
mircea_popescu: point remains, there is a LOT of variance in both housing prices and salaries in the us.
mircea_popescu: the "half a house" comment probably references older discussions re the housing market in central ohio
nubbins`: nah just going on my own house
nubbins`: only one person who regulars this chan cares about central ohio ;p
ThickAsThieves: it's like $2800 for 1000sqft in San Francisco and $800/mo for a 1700sqft house in north Florida
nubbins`: so many people from around here own houses in florida now
nubbins`: imagine, the descendants of fishmongers from what is historically canada's poorest province, scooping up florida real estate like monopoly properties
nubbins`: not sure if it says more about here or there
mircea_popescu: The “True Love Tester” bra can’t be masterfully unhooked by some skeevy player who hit on the wearer at a club. No, this bra only comes undone when sensors embedded inside it that are connected wirelessly to a smartphone app detect a particular heart rate
mircea_popescu: basically... it's the rape bra.
nubbins`: facelamp
nubbins`: guess it's not for the gym either
nubbins`: actually the reverse would be great for the gym
herbijudlestoids: ok its not double
mircea_popescu: get on the stairmaster, tits go out
nubbins`: keep your heart rate up OR ELSE
herbijudlestoids: the house price to income in aus is about 4 atm and about 3 in the US
mircea_popescu: dude that's a gread idea
nubbins`: it's like the pay toilets in korea, you stop feeding coins and the door pops open
mircea_popescu: perhaps make some cockrings with electricity too.
mircea_popescu: sorta like the dog collars.
nubbins`: "sorta like"... they make shock collars for small dogs too :P
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 95 @ 0.00287999 = 0.2736 BTC [+]
herbijudlestoids: ah shiet 2am
mircea_popescu: yes but what dog is that small
herbijudlestoids: bredtime
mircea_popescu: did he say it's time to get bred ?!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00287999 = 0.288 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30550 @ 0.00089478 = 27.3355 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: anyone present like hip hop?
nubbins`: some, not all
nubbins`: not most, even
ThickAsThieves: i wanna share a song i just finished, but have no one to share with
mircea_popescu: o.o
nubbins`: put it on soundcloud and let the world hear
ThickAsThieves: i cant yet
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 45 @ 0.028 = 1.26 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 95 @ 0.00287999 = 0.2736 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: https://db.tt/Rm6UjcFC is the mp3, if anyone is interested
ThickAsThieves: i did the music/mix/production
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: regarding s.mg forums/wikis/etc, the deal is one cannot simultaneously use game assets and accept payment?
ThickAsThieves: a local does the raps
mircea_popescu: nubbins` yea
nubbins`: does that extend to likenesses of assets or just the originals?
nubbins`: say, a rendition of creature x
mircea_popescu: uh
mircea_popescu: what are you trying to do, let's start at that end
nubbins`: haha.
nubbins`: make a forum
nubbins`: specifically, one with some sort of in-game beastie incorporated into the logo
mircea_popescu: so enjoy.
nubbins`: lovely
nubbins`: not a lot to discuss yet, but figured it'd be nice to have something in place for when there is
mircea_popescu: just don't start with any thermos bs.
nubbins`: well i was thinking about banning everyone by default
mircea_popescu: lol
nubbins`: (srsly)
nubbins`: hence the original question ;D
mircea_popescu: well then if you ban everyone what do i care ? i'll never know.
nubbins`: you'd probably get an honorary membership
nubbins`: i mean, uh, un-baning
nubbins`: *banning
mircea_popescu: so what exactly aren;t you saying ?
nubbins`: it's a pay forum
mircea_popescu: well no, you can't do that.
nubbins`: aha
mircea_popescu: why do you want to make a pay forum anyway
nubbins`: (a) to cover costs and (b) to get paid
nubbins`: justifiable if the content is there
nubbins`: for instance, gigposters.com forums costs $20/year for "premium" membership
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 162 @ 0.00615889 = 0.9977 BTC [+]
nubbins`: not required, but you're mercilessly browbeaten if you leech too much good advice without buying one.
nubbins`: and the real nice stuff, like plans for equipment, is hidden inside the premium members subforum
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.63 = 1.26 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: but listen, if what you want is to get paid, you should do something else than a forum
mircea_popescu: forums are god awful for this purpose. do something that pays.
azi`: so weird.. if you want to withdraw funds from mtgox and send them to another BTC you are faced with "invalid BTC address" error multiple times and it only works after a random amount of "submit clicks..
azi`: i am wondering if they use this to stall funds on the site...
nubbins`: tbf, if i wanted to get paid well, i'd not have retired from IT
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.63 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8455 @ 0.00089467 = 7.5644 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: azi` indeed.
azi`: am I just paranoid?
nubbins`: but that aside, i can't see myself running a free-for-all forum
nubbins`: not worth the effort
KRS1: they've done other things like disabled onclick actions when you try to submit a form
nubbins`: even with advertising
azi`: KRS1: hm? what does thatmean
KRS1: they disabled submit buttons in the past
mircea_popescu: nubbins` well that's kinda it, as a general principle. if you want to get paid do something that pays
mircea_popescu: rather than try to finagle a fundamentally unpaying model into paying you
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.62916666 = 3.775 BTC [-] {2}
azi`: KRS1: so they are a bit shady..
mircea_popescu: azi` they are beyond shady.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 700 @ 0.00086552 = 0.6059 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 94 @ 0.00614 = 0.5772 BTC [+] {2}
nubbins`: so shady they don't wear sunblock on hot days
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.006157 = 1.2314 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 151 @ 0.006157 = 0.9297 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 240 @ 0.00086666 = 0.208 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15699 @ 0.00089511 = 14.0523 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 140 @ 0.00615699 = 0.862 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.62999998 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 13 @ 0.028 = 0.364 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.63 = 1.89 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 23 @ 0.00615195 = 0.1415 BTC [-] {3}
jurov: nubbins try to approach some existing forums with your congenial idea
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 30 @ 0.00550122 = 0.165 BTC [+]
jurov: such as http://bitcoinforum.com/ (the one i'm trying to use for coinbr support)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 58 @ 0.00287999 = 0.167 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.63 = 1.89 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1610 @ 0.00009101 = 0.1465 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 23 @ 0.00606959 = 0.1396 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12650 @ 0.00089267 = 11.2923 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.6349999 = 5.08 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.635 = 2.54 BTC [+]
the20year: Take a look at these charts and tell me if they make sense to you all (Pre-collapse RS price charts) - https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9427554/BF%20chart%20%28Medium%29.jpg
the20year: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9427554/RelativePricing.jpg
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.0060001 = 0.15 BTC [-] {2}
ThickAsThieves: your first problem is thinking a bitcoin stock chart is going to make sense
lippoper: .bait
ozbot: http://24.media.tumblr.com/c1ea084cf12c63c8658c1eeb356a691c/tumblr_mxddl5mzxA1soc88vo1_500.jpg
lippoper: .bait
ozbot: http://31.media.tumblr.com/12a740d250c034c204bf1e5a412a8a8f/tumblr_mor7stoMnX1qc4rfao1_1280.jpg
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31923 @ 0.00088774 = 28.3393 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.62 = 3.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1609 @ 0.00610504 = 9.823 BTC [+] {14}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 30 @ 0.63256631 = 18.977 BTC [+] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 900 @ 0.00634031 = 5.7063 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 49 @ 0.0062003 = 0.3038 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 17 @ 0.6604054 = 11.2269 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.66777777 = 4.0067 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 43 @ 0.0063499 = 0.273 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.09016667 = 0.2705 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1100 @ 0.00638866 = 7.0275 BTC [+] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 206 @ 0.00636114 = 1.3104 BTC [-] {3}
b0n1: hey there! I just read an interesting article about the sefnit botnet (http://blogs.technet.com/b/mmpc/archive/2014/01/09/tackling-the-sefnit-botnet-tor-hazard.aspx) And I was wondering in what way this correlates with the litecoin mining difficulty
b0n1: what do you think? The drop at january is much later than the cleaning update, right? Did they clean directly when the cleaner was included in the microsoft update, or did they install the cleaner and trigger them simultaneously at a given time in the middle of january?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11614 @ 0.00088298 = 10.2549 BTC [-]
TomServo: b0n1: You're wondering about the drop in LTC hashrate? Around the 19th?
b0n1: yeah
b0n1: TomServo its sefnit, isnt it?
punkman: doge
TomServo: I thought it was doge
b0n1: why so fast and abrupt?
TomServo: check this out: http://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/hashrate-ltc-doge.html
TomServo: switch to 3months
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00287912 = 0.144 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 99 @ 0.00638997 = 0.6326 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.669 = 2.007 BTC [+]
b0n1: well doge was much longer more profitable than ltc, right? why do people switch so rapidly?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.66999999 = 4.69 BTC [+]
TomServo: Because the price shot up around the same time
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.67 = 2.68 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 210 @ 0.00083012 = 0.1743 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 39 @ 0.00287912 = 0.1123 BTC [-]
KRS1: http://i.imgur.com/2plqA3I.jpg
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.66 = 1.32 BTC [-]
pankkake: why do people switch so rapidly => because it's often automated
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2450 @ 0.00088526 = 2.1689 BTC [+]
mod6: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 283068 | Current Difficulty: 2.193847870174279E9 | Next Difficulty At Block: 284255 | Next Difficulty In: 1187 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 8 hours, 56 minutes, and 38 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 2455257168.03 | Estimated Percent Change: 11.91556
ThickAsThieves: http://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty estimates 18.44%
ozbot: Bitcoin Difficulty and Hashrate Chart - BitcoinWisdom
mod6: hmm, yeah
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.66 = 1.32 BTC [-]
mod6: so what happened to LTC difficulty? fell off a table ~1/20/14
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.66 = 1.32 BTC [-]
mod6: i like btcwisdom for its fibonacci fans&retracement tools
ThickAsThieves: maybe it was Shrem Mine
TomServo: mod6: http://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/hashrate-ltc-doge.html seems it went to doge
mod6: nice chart, thx TomServo
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.66 = 1.98 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.66902 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 22 @ 0.0063 = 0.1386 BTC [-]
mod6: much trollcoin
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45853 @ 0.00088859 = 40.7445 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.63002023 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.08213333 = 0.2464 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: b0n1 fwiw, it's more likely doge than whatever botnet.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 4 @ 0.08105001 = 0.3242 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 73 @ 0.0063 = 0.4599 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 90 @ 0.0063 = 0.567 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: http://25.media.tumblr.com/28888a6464f3ab2b5df77fa3ec90bb61/tumblr_mj0qmbQ77O1ru15g3o1_1280.jpg
TomServo: zoinks scoob
TomServo: check out the funbags on that hosehound'
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: don't tell me you're a fan of the cartoon dorkage of the 80s
TomServo: well, in the 80s!
mircea_popescu: i hated that hanna barbera shit. scooby doo, the jetsons, roadrunner, the works.
mircea_popescu: i was an emo preteen!
TomServo: haha
TomServo: I preferred, M.A.S.K, COPS and transformers
ThickAsThieves: i can tell from the fro pics
ThickAsThieves: you arent smiling til puberty
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 21 @ 0.00609911 = 0.1281 BTC [-] {5}
mircea_popescu: http://25.media.tumblr.com/1504bd7f076ab4a2d5469a58bd5d0a18/tumblr_mj0qnpcCxr1ru15g3o1_1280.jpg << dating in 2020.
TomServo: That fro though; That's impressive.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves tho this may be more a function of photographic technology. sometime around my puberty they figured out how to take your picture without blinding you with twelve billion watts.
ThickAsThieves: hehe
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4647 @ 0.0008869 = 4.1214 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: your peers seemed to manage
mircea_popescu: eh girls, whadda they know.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 71 @ 0.00323947 = 0.23 BTC [+] {8}
TomServo: Road Runner was a Loony Toon btw
mircea_popescu: i guess it was.
mod6: i kinda liked the Road Runner.
mod6: Wile E. Coyote running off cliff without realizing that there is no ground beneath his feet reminds me of U.S. econ.
mircea_popescu: but why ? the coyote tries shit, the roadrunner does not. yet it always comes ahead.
mod6: hhaha, i dunno. guess he's just too fast.
mircea_popescu: i get it, the socialist mind wants this to be the case. yet... shiut doesn't work that way.
mircea_popescu: irl the coyote eventually fucks up the roadrunner. badly.
mod6: I supposed after enough chance encounters, sooner or later the otherside wins one.
mod6: *suppose
mircea_popescu: kinda what got me, you know ? it never fucking won. gets boring to watch it if you know the result aforehand
mod6: true enough. the main attraction is to find out what devious scheme the coyote will attempt and ultimately fail with.
mircea_popescu: suppose no matter what you did, the computer just blinked the screen once. that's it.
nubbins`: well, wimpy kids watching cartoons don't want the mean guy to win, y'know?
mircea_popescu: wouldn't make anyone too interested in programming would it
mircea_popescu: nubbins` how is the coyote the bad guy ?
mircea_popescu: fucking roadrunner is the bad guy
nubbins`: on account of him wanting to have lunch
nubbins`: obv
nubbins`: veg agenda
mircea_popescu: what is this, guilttrippin for preteens ?
nubbins`: mel blanc? vegan
mircea_popescu: haha srsly ?!
nubbins`: no idea ;(
TomServo: lol
nubbins`: doubt it
mircea_popescu: this never occured to me. seems too simple to work :D
nubbins`: recall the sheep skits
nubbins`: same thing
mircea_popescu: you mean with the titty chick whatever her name was ?
nubbins`: nah sheepdog vs wolf
mircea_popescu: i dun think i ever saw that
TomServo: I'm with mod6, the draw was seeing what nonsense was Macgyver'd up by the coyote. (Much like MacGyver incidentally)
nubbins`: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e3/Sam_and_Ralph_choke.png
mircea_popescu: but mcgyver GETS IT
mircea_popescu: kinda why i never got into that, either : he always succeeds
mircea_popescu: wtf is up with that
TomServo: More of a Knight Rider guy?
mod6: yah, McGyver always seems to figure it out, always works out for him. never ends up with his balls in a vice.
mircea_popescu: i never watched that one either.
ThickAsThieves: CNN Announces Partnership with Twitter to Revolutionize News Gathering
mircea_popescu: of the newer stuff i watched dexter and cow&chicken, which both imo are brilliant.
mircea_popescu: esp the latter
ThickAsThieves: gather all the news!
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves " CNN Announces Partnership with Twitter to stop paying reporters altogether"
TomServo: You finished Dexter?
mod6: CNN, such irrelevance.
nubbins`: meat grinder announces partnership with iphone to revolutionize music
mircea_popescu: TomServo they only did like 20-30 episodes iirc.
nubbins`: there's like 8 seasons of dexter
mircea_popescu: the renaisance was coming to an end
ThickAsThieves: hide your news, hide your blogs, CNN is coming for you
mod6: "Tonight on CNN, we're gonna read the top trending tweets!"
mircea_popescu: nubbins` dexter, boy genius. and his sister dee dee
mod6: *snooze*
mircea_popescu: mod6 ayup.
nubbins`: oh, HAHA. that show ruled
TomServo: Oh, Dexter cartoon.
nubbins`: laborrahtories etc
mircea_popescu: old media is becoming a sort of "internet aids for old and disabled people"
ThickAsThieves: AOL
mod6: exactly mp
mircea_popescu: not that there's anything wrong with it, nice public service
mircea_popescu: but there's not going to be any money in it.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35376 @ 0.00089607 = 31.6994 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: i never heard of a multi billion dollar "reading books for the blind" venture.
ThickAsThieves: CNN Announces Terminal AOL Affliction
TomServo: But I hear glasses and hearing aids are really expensive.
mircea_popescu: pretty much. "CNN Gives Up"
mircea_popescu: TomServo good ones. with emphasis on good.
ThickAsThieves: Currently on their gravestone: 10 winter health myths busted, Motley Crue signs 'death pact', Ancient blueprint for Noah's Ark found?
mircea_popescu: da fuck.
mircea_popescu: is cnn like a sort of tv daily mail ?!
nubbins`: haha
TomServo: Or worse.
mircea_popescu: wtf is going on over there
ThickAsThieves: She was killed for photobomb, cops say
nubbins`: motley crue, noah's ark
ThickAsThieves: Surprising celebrity friendships
mircea_popescu: dude this is like the depths of stalin's winter, proletcultism it was called.
mircea_popescu: ;;google proletcultism
ThickAsThieves: Super rich, stop your ranting!
gribble: Poezia română după proletcultism by Constantin Abăluţă ...: <http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/17371377-poezia-rom-n-dup-proletcultism>; Sebastian Reichmann (Contributor of Poezia română după ...: <http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/3339608.Sebastian_Reichmann>; Proletkult - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proletkult>
mircea_popescu: apparently this concept doth not exist in english
mircea_popescu: o nm, proletkult
mod6: OOoo. I want to spend 20 minutes of my life on "Suprising celebrity friendships"
ThickAsThieves: lol, i skipped the main headline:
ThickAsThieves: Snow turns Atlanta into 'zombie movie'
FabianB: ;;premium mtgox btce
mircea_popescu: yeah, that. it sucked.
gribble: Premium of MtGox over BTC-E is currently 17.8118295455 %.
ThickAsThieves: all their journalists are Twitterers and SEO Specialists now
ThickAsThieves: I blame Google ☟︎
ThickAsThieves: I had this idea to make the anti-google search engine
ThickAsThieves: but i know nothing of running search engines
FabianB: duckduckgo?
ThickAsThieves: thats just anonymous
ThickAsThieves: not anti enough
mod6: how about a simple page that when you hit SUBMIT on the form just returns, "GO FUCK YOURSELF"?
mod6: fuuuuckyougle.com
ThickAsThieves: sorta like a simpler lmgtfy
ThickAsThieves: hehe
pankkake: duckduckgo has some anti-google features like "no bubble" http://dontbubble.us/
ThickAsThieves: Witnesses complain of bloody mess but appreciate posthumous apology
mod6: must have been a mess.
mircea_popescu: it's not really possible to make a google without ai.
ThickAsThieves: thats actually the anti part
ThickAsThieves: all search weight factors would be transparent and customizable
ThickAsThieves: then the engine averages all template weights for a default one
ThickAsThieves: or curates it some
ThickAsThieves: but if yoy make an account
ThickAsThieves: you can de-weight twitter mentions, or such
ThickAsThieves: save custom search templates
ThickAsThieves: like weight blogs and twitter only, if you are a journalist
ThickAsThieves: all SEO methods are posted
ThickAsThieves: no mystery
ThickAsThieves: it is law instead
ThickAsThieves: lotsa algo work
ThickAsThieves: but methodical
ThickAsThieves: this would cause search results to be more organic with time and trends
ThickAsThieves: rather than the reverse
ThickAsThieves: IPO coming soon
ThickAsThieves: codename: Search Party
mod6: bluehorseshoe <3's anacott steel
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 240 @ 0.00276753 = 0.6642 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/democracy-and-finance-dont-mix-the-math-involved/
ozbot: Democracy and finance don’t mix - the math involved pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: <ThickAsThieves> all search weight factors would be transparent and customizable << now this is a great idea.
mircea_popescu: really great idea.
mircea_popescu: especially if you allow people to add factors.
mircea_popescu: basically self-fighting antispam engine
gecko_x2: mp hi, i need ur help
mircea_popescu: shoot
ThickAsThieves: thats the first time i told the idea and the listeners eyes didnt cross
gecko_x2: a guy want to buy litecoin for btc of me for alittle higher rate than btc-e
gecko_x2: this is his proposal for escrow:
gecko_x2: I create and give you a btc wallet and password on blockchain with 5.7 BTC 2. You can login , check BTC, change password and attach and verify to your email this wallet 3. You send me the ltc 4. i release you the transfer keys so you can send BTC to your personal wallet that way block chain role is as escrow
mircea_popescu: it's weak.
gecko_x2: what do you think?
gecko_x2: why?
ThickAsThieves: lol
ThickAsThieves: cuz he can change pass again
mircea_popescu: because he yeah
ThickAsThieves: with other factors
mircea_popescu: use someone as an escrow.
ThickAsThieves: yeah
ThickAsThieves: i'll so crypto escrow for ya for .2 btc if no one else will
ThickAsThieves: do*
mircea_popescu: that;s a little rich innit ?
mircea_popescu: ;;gettrust gecko_x2
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user gecko_x2: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=gecko_x2 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=gecko_x2 | Rated since: never
punkman: ThickAsThieves: http://www.searchenginecaffe.com/2010/11/blekko-launches-brings-transparency-to.html
ThickAsThieves: call me Steve Jobs
punkman: two years later: "Blekko Betrays Trust Blocks SEO Data And Shreds Transparency Policy"
mircea_popescu: punkman srsly ?!
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves clearly there's money in it.
punkman: well if anyone wants to experiment, this is very handy: http://commoncrawl.org/
ThickAsThieves: maybe we can fund this blekko guy
punkman: you can have a personal search engine, it's gonna cost though
mircea_popescu: back in the days i still had time, i used to run romania's digg/reddit/sm aggregator thing
mircea_popescu: it did some pretty wicked search things, but then again it was kind of small
mircea_popescu: not THAT much romanian internet out there.
ThickAsThieves: the real answer is to patent the search idea after fully documenting it, then sell it to Yahoo
mircea_popescu: do you want to do something or just make money ?
ThickAsThieves: in this case, money
ThickAsThieves: i have no desire to be CEO of TAToogle
mircea_popescu: so then it's not for you.
gecko_x2: well
gecko_x2: he is offering me 5.7 btc for 200 ltc
gecko_x2: current value on btc-e 5.3 btc
mircea_popescu: this is not a consideration gecko_x2
gecko_x2: i'd love to take 0.4 btc
gecko_x2: how to make this work?
mircea_popescu: use some person as an escrow.
mircea_popescu: someone with a wot rating
ThickAsThieves: you dont even need to find a person
mircea_popescu: then he can rate you both and you can rate each other etc.
ThickAsThieves: just tell him you will
ThickAsThieves: and he'll go away
mircea_popescu: lol or that
pankkake: haha, true
gecko_x2: ;;gettrust mircea_popescu
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user gecko_x2 to user mircea_popescu: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=gecko_x2&dest=mircea_popescu | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=mircea_popescu | Rated since: Fri Jul 22 11:04:26 2011
mircea_popescu: cynical bastards, the lot of ye.
gecko_x2: so mp will u be my escrow?
gecko_x2: or TaT?
pankkake: why would someone want to pay more than on btc-e? makes no sense
gecko_x2: <gecko_x2> may i ask why you would want to do this instead of just buying the ltc on an exchange?
punkman: free ltc of course
mircea_popescu: i don't actually have a ltc wallet o.o
gecko_x2: i don't use any exch
gecko_x2: 5 mounts
gecko_x2: i lose much money,also someone hack my account
gecko_x2: and that is rison ''WHY
ThickAsThieves: he's wasting your time
mircea_popescu: http://31.media.tumblr.com/fafc587c5a3b9709dd750ca3bd8f5be1/tumblr_miind4dYZI1s1m2veo1_400.gif << "check this shit out, are these the flappiest, looses tits ever or what ? what do you people think ?"
ThickAsThieves: and now ours
pankkake: can't spell = scammer. no exceptions
mircea_popescu: i wonder what that says of all the dorks hating on mpoe-pr
mircea_popescu: they rarely manage to speal.
gecko_x2: c'monm peeps help me make some dough :)
gecko_x2: ThickAsThieves?
pankkake: I can do the escrow but I doubt it will come to that
ThickAsThieves: i already offered to do it for .2btc
ThickAsThieves: maybe pankkake will for less
gecko_x2: .1
ThickAsThieves: or some forumite
gecko_x2: :D
punkman: google found the video for the gif: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xq7twm_audrey-bastien-nude-scene_redband
gecko_x2: https://blockchain.info/wallet/0ad7110b-eb0a-47e6-8281-ad425b966a6d
ozbot: My Wallet - Be Your Own Bank - Blockchain.info
pankkake: I have no litecoins now so might not be able to pay the tx fee actually :/
mircea_popescu: punkman is it good ?
KRS1: oh wow mircea_popescu..very nice, I would fap to those boobies. Plus she looks older than that girl. Hmmm.
KRS1: She looks a bit jealous.
gecko_x2: i'm logged in
gecko_x2: should be ok you think?
gecko_x2: he gave me the pass
gecko_x2: 5.83 btc
gecko_x2: oh what the hell.. i'm game
ThickAsThieves: send the btc to another wallet then
punkman: gecko_x2, why aren't you doing this in small increments?
mircea_popescu: this is so cute.
mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/281/btc-usd-at-mtgox-will-be-above-150-on/ << imagine if mtgox goes bye bye
ozbot: BitBet - BTC/USD at MtGox will be above $150 on Mar 1st 2014
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.6300158 = 7.5602 BTC [-] {5}
ThickAsThieves: then youll get snackman's ghosts
gecko_x2: hmm email verification code incorrect
mircea_popescu: is that like, a good thing ?
ThickAsThieves: lol
ThickAsThieves: how to lose $5000 with an audience
mircea_popescu: something tells me this is going to become a pretty epic example of "ask mp, ignore what he says"
ThickAsThieves: start counting your bash lines!
lippoper: what are you saying about dogecoin?
lippoper: that the ema lines have crossed once again? Maybe it's a good time to buy in and ride the wave?
mircea_popescu: i have no idea
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/hi-this-is-not-office/
ozbot: Hi this is not office. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
lippoper: doge lol
lippoper: http://www.coindesk.com/vault-of-satoshi-new-altcoin-support/
lippoper: https://www.vaultofsatoshi.com/orderbook
ozbot: Vault of Satoshi
lippoper: dogecoin -> usd
ThickAsThieves: ick
lippoper: as well as primecoin, feathercoin, quarkcoin,
lippoper: litecoin, namecoin, peercoin
lippoper: wow
ThickAsThieves: dogecoin is like a feedback loop of you slapping yourself in a mirror
ThickAsThieves: cant watch, not funny, embarassing, etc
ThickAsThieves: get off my lawn
mircea_popescu: dude you didn't see the artful clipart of the challenger with a D on it while sepparating from its boosters
mircea_popescu: how can you be so ignorant
lippoper: lolz
ThickAsThieves: i saw it
ThickAsThieves: and cringed
ThickAsThieves: when i see some things so hideous, i physically react
ThickAsThieves: like some of these reality shows
mircea_popescu: it is mildly concerning that the current crop of kids are so visually driven and cognitively impaired
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 41 @ 0.049 = 2.009 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: it's almost as if living in a world of doges.
ThickAsThieves: there's this new celebrity gameshow
ThickAsThieves: and they all sit on couches
ThickAsThieves: and pretend to be on drugs
mircea_popescu: srsly, what's with the drugs over there ?
ThickAsThieves: but mostly just display their new forms of surgical primping
ThickAsThieves: it's so painful to watch
ThickAsThieves: they all pretend to be funny
mod6: this is a game show?
ThickAsThieves: like it's a total charicature of reality
mircea_popescu: more like a lame show
mod6: srsly
mod6: it would be funnier if they were ACTUALLY on drugs.
ThickAsThieves: http://www.nbc.com/hollywood-game-night/
ozbot: Hollywood Game Night | Everyday People Play With Celebrities | NBC
mircea_popescu: anyway, ima be off to do some shit. if anyone seeks my advice just link them to the above.
mircea_popescu: do them about the same good.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26200 @ 0.00089633 = 23.4838 BTC [+] {2}
lippoper: (つ◕_◕)つ [̲̅$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅]
ThickAsThieves: it's a trap!
lippoper: http://i.imgur.com/Z9gvzc3.gif <-- We're not crashing... We're just practicing for the Olympics!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10150 @ 0.00089637 = 9.0982 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17650 @ 0.00089473 = 15.792 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15900 @ 0.00089637 = 14.2523 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.668 = 1.336 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.668 = 1.336 BTC [+]
gecko_x2: omg
gecko_x2: i just got conned :(
pankkake: how much? :/
assbot: Last 50 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1575635/plain/)
ThickAsThieves: !b 50 ✂︎
Animazing: Let me guess 200LTC
gecko_x2: yes?
gecko_x2: did i loose it?
ThickAsThieves: did you?
gecko_x2: hold
Animazing: If you sent it; you lost it
Animazing: it's as simple as that
gecko_x2: how
gecko_x2: i have the second pass to blockchain
gecko_x2: wtf
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00089307 = 5.6263 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: start using normal chars mircea_popescu
ThickAsThieves: this panelist!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23285 @ 0.00088913 = 20.7034 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.66957442 = 4.687 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 30 @ 0.66993293 = 20.098 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.677 = 6.77 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6115 @ 0.00088913 = 5.437 BTC [-]
the20year: new shorts on difficulty on havelock?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.68 = 2.04 BTC [+]
gecko_x2: fucking shit
gecko_x2: [17:43:31] * Maximilian was kicked by iwilcox (scammer)
gecko_x2: :(
kakobrekla: dafuq u doin
gecko_x2: :(
gecko_x2: :8
gecko_x2: :(
gecko_x2: motherf..
kakobrekla: what happend ?
gecko_x2: i got scammed it seems!
kakobrekla: yea, we got that....
kakobrekla: detals?
kakobrekla: details?
gecko_x2: well we used blockchain.info as escrow
gecko_x2: i have second password
gecko_x2: Volvo39 is 4faf593e@gateway/web/freenode/ip. * - http://webchat.freenode.net
gecko_x2: Volvo39 on #bitcoin #litecoin
gecko_x2: Volvo39 using herbert.freenode.net DE
gecko_x2: Volvo39 End of /WHOIS list.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.69 = 1.38 BTC [+]
Animazing: still not details
Animazing: no*
Animazing: A whois is not details on a scam
gecko_x2: hold on
gecko_x2: i have all logs
gecko_x2: :(
gecko_x2: this can't be happening..
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.690122 = 1.3802 BTC [+]
gecko_x2: my gawd
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 137 @ 0.00629758 = 0.8628 BTC [+] {6}
gecko_x2: MOTHERFUCK
Animazing: Just learn from the experience and move on
Animazing: When something sounds to good to be true it usually is
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00629999 = 0.63 BTC [+] {2}
ThickAsThieves: dude, yknow blockchain.info even has an escrow multi-sig feature thing
punkman: gecko_x2: I see you ignored my suggestion
ThickAsThieves: we told you
ThickAsThieves: like 4 of us
pankkake: http://otcdb.us.to/otc/?Volvo39 http://otcdb.us.to/otc/?*81.24.241*
ozbot: OTC Volvo39
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.69 = 1.38 BTC [-]
gecko_x2: FUCK
pankkake: I think it's the same annoying guy
punkman: gecko_x2, just don't waste too much time trying to get it back
gecko_x2: :(
gecko_x2: how is it possible
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.690122 = 2.0704 BTC [+]
gecko_x2: jesus fuck 5.6 btc
gecko_x2: is there anything i can do?
punkman: because trading passwords over IM is not an acceptable substitute for the actual blockchain
gecko_x2: but i made a second pass to blockchain
gecko_x2: omg
ThickAsThieves: why didnt you send the coins to another wallet?
ThickAsThieves: that was your second chance
gecko_x2: i neede the private key
ThickAsThieves: lol
gecko_x2: :(
gecko_x2: funny?
ThickAsThieves: almost perfectly
ThickAsThieves: you trollin?
gecko_x2: NO
gecko_x2: god damnit
deadweasel: are you sure?
pankkake: take it as a learning experience, albeit expensive
deadweasel: could be a decent troll. or you might have lyme disease. is your brain swollen?
gecko_x2: what
gecko_x2: i can't login to the blockchain account anymore
gecko_x2: i made a second pass
gecko_x2: how is this possible?
deadweasel: did you use multi-sig?
gecko_x2: i was logged in
deadweasel: so no.
gecko_x2: reated a second password
gecko_x2: created*
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.690122 BTC [+]
gecko_x2: so how can he access the btc?
deadweasel: depends on how stupidly you set up the transaction.
pankkake: what is this second password thing?
deadweasel: the eagle flies at midnight
ThickAsThieves: until the bitcoins are in your own private wallet, you dont have them
pankkake: blochchain.info derives the private key from the password IIRC
ThickAsThieves: that's a constant
gecko_x2: hold he's back
pankkake: he's there every other day
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4224 @ 0.00089638 = 3.7863 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8501 @ 0.00089727 = 7.6277 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 20000 @ 0.00007321 = 1.4642 BTC [-] {31}
gecko_x2: pankkake so he's a scammer?
gecko_x2: you sure?
pankkake: yes… serial scammer
gecko_x2: omg :(
gecko_x2: why the hell did i do this?
gecko_x2: my last btc
ThickAsThieves: you are lucky
ThickAsThieves: assuming youve learned your lesson
gecko_x2: what?
ThickAsThieves: most of us have surely fooled away more than 5btc
TomServo: gecko_x2: Why would you ask for advice and not follow it?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 220 @ 0.0063 = 1.386 BTC [+]
deadweasel: impulsivity + greed = fail
gecko_x2: do you think i need this shit right now?
deadweasel: yes
TomServo: Yes.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2000 @ 0.00271438 = 5.4288 BTC [-] {18}
TomServo: Well, actually you needed it earlier. AND GOT IT.
deadweasel: you know you like it, TomServo
deadweasel: keep boggling, i'm not there yet
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 7179 @ 0.00007 = 0.5025 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35035 @ 0.00089572 = 31.3816 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1075 @ 0.00270213 = 2.9048 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 60 @ 0.0027 = 0.162 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 420 @ 0.00045007 = 0.189 BTC [-] {3}
lippoper: so from last time I said might be good time to invest in doges, they have gone from 170 to 180 satoshis
Korbman: Soooo...I've been catching up in this channel since I hadn't looked in a number of hours
Korbman: did I literally just read a scam unfold
Korbman: *unfolded because someone can't trade properly?
deadweasel: they tried, seems to have ignored the advice
deadweasel: learning is painful
deadweasel: and expensive
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10500 @ 0.00089768 = 9.4256 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 279 @ 0.00043001 = 0.12 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 30 @ 0.03182103 = 0.9546 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00639999 = 0.64 BTC [+] {2}
ThickAsThieves: preach on sister!
Korbman: whelp, that's unfortunate
the20year: Anyone have a basic premise? I'm confused about the scam
jurov: !t m s.mpoe
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00088298 / 0.00088988 / 0.00089795 (1141890 shares, 1,016.15 BTC), 7D: 0.00087792 / 0.0009462 / 0.00101414 (6193303 shares, 5,860.16 BTC), 30D: 0.00082205 / 0.00089781 / 0.00101414 (28987275 shares, 26,025.11 BTC)
jurov: !t m s.bbet
assbot: [MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00072 / 0.00072064 / 0.00075 (511 shares, 0.37 BTC), 30D: 0.00045 / 0.00063054 / 0.0009 (18832 shares, 11.87 BTC)
Korbman: geck0_x2 - be thankful that's all you lost. Most of us have lost waaayyyyy more
Korbman: it's a very painful learning experience, but you'll be better off in the end
azi`: what kind of scam happened?
KRS1: Can you please describe the scam, sir.
jurov: did it involve sauna?
KRS1: Gecko_x2, Volvo39 stole 200 ltc from you?
gecko_x2: YES
gecko_x2: http://pastebin.com/rXNhe8V2
ozbot: [20:33:00] <Maximilian> hey [20:33:11] <gecko_x2> hi [20:33:24] <Maximilian> 2 - Pastebin.com
KRS1: sorry to hear that
twizt: gecko_x2:
twizt: you are so retarded
twizt: hes gave you instructions
twizt: and u followed them like a noob
azi`: was this guy verifed on otc?
twizt: lol
twizt: prolly didnt question anything
pankkake: he isn't registered, and he gets upset if you ask him to register
gecko_x2: http://pastebin.com/ze3Pm2mR
ozbot: [21:43:05] <Volvo39> hi - Volvo39 is 4faf593e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.175.8 - Pastebin.com
pankkake: also gets upset if you ask why he changes his nick all the time
Apocalyptic: it's the serbian dude right
Bunnyh: you asked "<gecko_x2> may i ask why you would want to do this instead of just buying the ltc on an exchange?" and then just accepted the bullshit answer
azi`: its easy to be smart now
TomServo: azi`: eh?
Bunnyh: i just don't understand why anyone would have to do btc/ltc trades outside of an exchange, and looks like gecko_x2 didn't either, but still accepted
gecko_x2: :(
azi`: yeah, too bad
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 6 @ 0.07501835 = 0.4501 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.0489999 = 0.147 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 36 @ 0.00639998 = 0.2304 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 318 @ 0.00639999 = 2.0352 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 73 @ 0.00649588 = 0.4742 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.00639998 = 1.28 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00639998 = 0.64 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: ah well, part of learning process, mistakes that is.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.62223306 = 5.6001 BTC [-] {6}
kakobrekla: with bitcoin, the sooner you go through it, the better.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.6001 = 4.8008 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58455 @ 0.00089508 = 52.3219 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 4 @ 0.02999905 = 0.12 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 39 @ 0.60342698 = 23.5337 BTC [+] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.6 = 6 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 33 @ 0.54818464 = 18.0901 BTC [-] {11}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.501 = 3.507 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 14 @ 0.49785714 = 6.97 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 116 @ 0.00639998 = 0.7424 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22427 @ 0.00089682 = 20.113 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.0060001 = 0.15 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12790 @ 0.00089423 = 11.4372 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 16 @ 0.54899 = 8.7838 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 28 @ 0.0057 = 0.1596 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.54799999 = 1.096 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4488 @ 0.00089423 = 4.0133 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.545 BTC [-]
herbijudlestoids: hmmm forgot to put a datestamp on my logger
herbijudlestoids: otherwise some interesting datapoints coming through already
kakobrekla: anyway, i thought you went to the liquid markets?
herbijudlestoids: i do, like i said last night, just an idea that came to me then
herbijudlestoids: http://imgur.com/CkJ5kA8 <-- here is a distribution of the overnight tick returns
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
herbijudlestoids: quite an interesting looking formation
kakobrekla: whats the x axis
herbijudlestoids: i log normalise the return between ticks
herbijudlestoids: x axis is the value of those returns
kakobrekla: return between ticks?
kakobrekla: you mean price difference?
herbijudlestoids: its the % return if you had invested in the asset at the tick
herbijudlestoids: (log normalised)
kakobrekla: hm
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.0489999 = 0.196 BTC [+]
herbijudlestoids: its a pretty normal way to break the timeseries down in quantitative analysis, but usually at a lower resloution than per tick
herbijudlestoids: once i build up some data and refine my timestamping etc i will start to record 10 sec data from the ticks and then build all the lower resolutions from that high res feed
herbijudlestoids: so you can see, the distribution of daily returns or, the 10-tick volatility, etc
herbijudlestoids: also would like to figure out if there is a diurnal pattern in the assets
herbijudlestoids: i cant show you some of the other stuff iv grabbed because i didnt timestamp properly and R wont plot it nicely
ThickAsThieves: http://www.theverge.com/2014/1/29/5358664/us-government-blocks-students-in-iran-cuba-and-sudan-from-taking-free-online-classes-coursera
ozbot: US government blocks students in Iran, Cuba, and Sudan from taking free online classes | The Verge
herbijudlestoids: :/
herbijudlestoids: i need to write a script that will take the irc log output and automagic it into appropriately named, quantmod compatible mysql tables
herbijudlestoids: but after that i can think of all kinds of interesting things to look at
herbijudlestoids: futures curve, vols, trend, fundamentals, benchmark indices, etc
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] [PAID] 11.82985793 BTC to 19`249 shares, 61457 satoshi per share