pete_dushenski: right. in the walmart parking lot where you live.
trinque: I'd live in a sufficiently large vehicle
mats: you people...
trinque: wouldn't mind getting one of the vw camper vans at some point
mats: http://www.kansasrvcenter.com/inventory/442567/New-2015-Lifestyle-Luxury-RV-Alfa-Gold-3905SH-Motorcycle-Storage-Area.aspx
assbot: New 2015 Lifestyle Luxury RV Alfa Gold 3905SH Motorcycle Storage Area Fifth Wheels at Kansas RV Center Chanute Kansas Kansas RV Center ... ( http://bit.ly/1Fj8JPb )
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 459 @ 0.00274 = 1.2577 BTC [-] {4}
punkman: I like this, if only it had less hippies https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnHGKUh-5O4
assbot: Unbelievable House Truck Transforms Into Fantasy Castle - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Fj8N1n )
BingoBoingo: Firetruck is immenently useful in post USG world. Break out the hoses on former desk jockeys.
BingoBoingo: Also if you get one with a big tank, maybe some money smuggling freshwater into california.
trinque: punkman: I wouldn't mind seeing a non-hippy/burner version of that
punkman: re:monitors https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CB49ad5UIAEqgaO.jpg:large
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1ybP8DM )
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: jekyll and hyde in america gone horribly wrong
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14200 @ 0.00027685 = 3.9313 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: Where's Africa http://pipeline.corante.com/archives/2015/04/07/countries_that_have_developed_a_smallmolecule_drug.php
assbot: Countries That Have Developed A Small-Molecule Drug. In the Pipeline: ... ( http://bit.ly/1ybQoXw )
pete_dushenski: !s backbox
assbot: 0 results for 'backbox' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=backbox
BingoBoingo: !s blackbox
assbot: 8 results for 'blackbox' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=blackbox
pete_dushenski: was looking for the linux distro..
BingoBoingo: http://www.backbox.org/ ???
assbot: Home | BackBox Linux ... ( http://bit.ly/1ybQG0u )
pete_dushenski: mhm
BingoBoingo: !up nubbins`
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: there's a reason orlov et al live in boats and not trucks
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Sure, but I'm not just contemplating trucks, but trucks with flashing lights!
trinque: BingoBoingo: put a snow plow on the front too
trinque: good crowd control
asciilifeform: land vehicles are not only lacking in the distance-from-other-schmucks aspect of the boat, but in usa are specifically (ianal - check with up-to-date sources) excluded from the juridicial definition of 'home' for the purposes of search&seizure
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Excluded when moving or on a public right of way. when not moving on any private property they can rapidly convert to domicile
asciilifeform: iirc, only if said property is your own
BingoBoingo: Maybe.
BingoBoingo: Still in international waters pretty much any navy/coast guard reserves the right to conduct colonoscopy
asciilifeform: likewise, if your vehicle contains a toilet - you are more or less stuck at least frequenting the dismal ghettoschwitzes where such machines are typically kept at anchor
BingoBoingo: firetrucks don't have toilets, but they have shovels for digging your own toilets as needed
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: in international waters, they need a reason to take detour
BingoBoingo: need is an awfully loaded word considering the incursions on the somali coast by nation-state actors
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i've often wondered who will be the first in this century to fill a fire truck with petrol.
asciilifeform: the water tank, that is
asciilifeform: best done on a column of soldiers.
asciilifeform: don't light it!
BingoBoingo: I'd be worried about unloading petrol through pump designed for water. Pump might ignite itself
asciilifeform: it usually sinks in, goes the folk story, before anyone fires.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6190 @ 0.00026897 = 1.6649 BTC [-] {2}
asciilifeform: surrender - get a shower.
BingoBoingo: Just have to avoid the tempation to follow the Roman firefighting tradition
BingoBoingo: Builds ill will with the locals
BingoBoingo: See Crassus
asciilifeform: (source of the 'flameless flamethrower' stratagem - u.s. grunts in vietnam, applied to rice paddies with hidden men)
asciilifeform wasn't there, cannot vouch for efficacy
BingoBoingo: Ah
BingoBoingo: !up Pierre_Rochard
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ill believe it when i see it.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-04-2015#1091529 << exactly zero chances of that sort of dumb shit to stick.☝︎
assbot: Logged on 07-04-2015 23:43:05; asciilifeform: a modern 'jfk' might not be shot, but petraeused or childpronned instead
mircea_popescu: it wouldn't stick on anyone else, like p, except they keep confessing like the pastiass dickless shitheads they are.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-04-2015#1091532 << o yea ? somehow i dun see it.☝︎
assbot: Logged on 07-04-2015 23:44:14; asciilifeform: and before mircea_popescu observes that 'no one has the balls' - if the 'balls-enabled' jfk appeared, a 'counter-jfk' would materialize out of thin aether
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-04-2015#1091539 << what is this dumb shit ?☝︎
assbot: Logged on 07-04-2015 23:48:55; ben_vulpes: apropos of nothing: https://kmikeym.com/questions/85
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-04-2015#1091555 << not to mention you wouldn't be stuck with the impotent sort of potheads that crowd a "orgy rv" to the point of total cockblockage.☝︎
assbot: Logged on 07-04-2015 23:57:31; pete_dushenski: though i'll take a plane and high-end hotel room any day, and i'll still come out ahead on costs compared to 'high-end rv'
mats: i'm watching "Blackhat" atm, p funny so far
mats: .cn sysop uses yubikey at his terminal, "he's using gpg encryption... it'll take me at least a month to crack it... it must be at least a 512 bit key"
mats: er, these are distinct things, but anyway.
danielpbarron: the kmikeym thing is "the first publically traded person"
danielpbarron: Of course it's not a real share like you might buy on the NYSE or NASDAQ. There is no company behind KmikeyM and so the "ownership" you hold is actually a just a metaphor for trust. We have built a fully-functional market simulation and we borrow a lot of language and concepts from the business world in order to make the process easy to understand.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> ... << not to mention you wouldn't be stuck with the impotent sort of potheads that crowd a "orgy rv" to the point of total cockblockage. << But... Firetruck. They put the lotion on the skin, or they get the hose again
mircea_popescu: yeah. right.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20041 @ 0.00027723 = 5.556 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: mats: wut.
asciilifeform: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2717822 << l0l! apparently - exists
assbot: Blackhat (2015) - IMDb ... ( http://bit.ly/1GJ9RzT )
asciilifeform cannot bring himself to watch 'hacking' films newer than 'war games'
asciilifeform: !s zebra hitler
assbot: 2 results for 'zebra hitler' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=zebra+hitler
mircea_popescu: i never saw a good "hacking" film.
mircea_popescu: alw\ays loathed the genre.
asciilifeform: afaik there are none
asciilifeform: nor could there be.
mats: i was told michael mann is known for making relatively accurate movies
mats: oh wow these chinese shooters don't know how to clear rooms
BingoBoingo: !b 2
assbot: Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2GAKKY9.txt )
asciilifeform: who clears rooms by shooting, anyway
asciilifeform: i thought the civilized way was with frag
mats: civilized way is with four dudes and a perimeter.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> i thought the civilized way was with frag << With flash and bang unless you know walls actually protect yourself
asciilifeform: 'you enter a room in pairs. first your frag, then you' (ru adage)
mats: those fatal funnels are a bear.
TomServo: mircea_popescu: ever seen Sneakers?
mircea_popescu: nope
TomServo: Best 'hacking' movie I can think of.. maybe check it out.
mircea_popescu: 1992 ?!
TomServo: That's the one
mircea_popescu: robert redford dan akroid ok im not watching this.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34137 @ 0.00027034 = 9.2286 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: but thanks for playing.
mircea_popescu: magical box that breaks secrets, this isn't a film about hacking, this is scherezade in a "modern" color scheme.
mircea_popescu: has as much to do with computers as with aladin.
asciilifeform: somebody (greg egan?) had a short story with such a box, that wasn't utterly retarded
asciilifeform: the catch was that the magical box didn't really break the crypto, but distorted the universe to fit the operator's preconceptions of what the plaintext was.
asciilifeform: to lulzy result.
mircea_popescu: this is why i fucking hate sf.
nubbins`: more woodcollector lulz: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1011340.msg11015914#msg11015914
assbot: [2015-04-03] The 5,000Btc hidden treasure, and the key to finding it. ... ( http://bit.ly/1GJbrls )
asciilifeform: http://trilema.com/2013/so-whos-running-the-courts-circus/#comment-113478 << neato
assbot: So who's running the Courts circus ? on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1GJbrBU )
mircea_popescu: yeh.
mircea_popescu: mats you rly should add sources to all that, impossibru to follow in snippets like that.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` no fucking way. you actually recognized a... WINDOW AND PLUG assembly ?
mats: sources? the url is appended to the end
nubbins` snaps on hat
nubbins`: detective nubs
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21800 @ 0.00027723 = 6.0436 BTC [+]
mats: the ones that don't, i found on westlaw but not the crawlable internets
mircea_popescu: ps. nubbins` : Your an idiot, and that is not the argument i am having.
nubbins`: HEH
hanbot: <mircea_popescu> i never saw a good "hacking" film. << for prime cheese: WarGames, 83
nubbins`: i'm starting to think that it is i who is wc
mircea_popescu: hanbot yeah i skipped that.
mircea_popescu: mats ah look at that right you are! nice.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: mats has been on this for a while. I almost contributed then... qntra. Dude's been digging like mad.
nubbins`: mats doin that homework
mircea_popescu: 0 In U.S. v. Scarfo (Criminal Action No. 00–404 (NHP)), Politan denied << that one has nothing for instance.
mircea_popescu: 0 In U.S. v. Friedman (No. 95–CR–192 (S–3)(ARR), < etc. but they do have the indexes so that's pretty good
mircea_popescu: what was the problem, no internet available data ?
mats: no data available on the specific action, usually
mircea_popescu: aha.
mats: usually data available for the relevant case
BingoBoingo: ;;google B-52 polar growl
gribble: B-52s fly to North Sea, Arctic for NATO exercise - Air Force Times: <http://www.airforcetimes.com/story/military/2015/04/06/nato-training-b52-arctic/25357999/>; POLAR GROWL strengthens Allied interoperability, essential ...: <http://www.afgsc.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123444130>; Polar Growl strengthens allied interoperability, bomber navigation ...: (1 more message)
mircea_popescu: !rated mats
assbot: You have not rated mats.
nubbins`: damn, no donations to payout address for task 1.
nubbins`: why'd i spend all that time looking up judge names anyway ;/
mircea_popescu: !rate mats 1 Lotta paralegal work on http://trilema.com/2013/so-whos-running-the-courts-circus/
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assbot: So who's running the Courts circus ? on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1GJcsd0 )
mircea_popescu: nubbins` i thought it was global ?
nubbins`: mm?
mircea_popescu: people had a way to donate specifically, if they wanted, but the bulk is global.
nubbins`: ahh, i see
mats: i'm fairly convinced this project has gone as far as it can go without professional input
nubbins` re-reads actual article
mircea_popescu: there is no such thing as "professional"
mircea_popescu: !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.mats.1:060bf7cf7cce64b6ee03db87caa7bb232b33ee77d9fe4a7c4e07fcbfff58b46d
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for mats with note: Lotta paralegal work on http://trilema.com/2013/so-whos-running-the-courts-circus/
mircea_popescu: "and viola Nubbins is a monkeys uncle."
mircea_popescu: slowclap.
nubbins`: morbidly fascinating neh
mircea_popescu: well... "the people have rights", right ? and everyone's the same, right ? at which point we can spend forever talking over the internet with clearly disturbed ignorant idiot.
BingoBoingo: mats single handedly took on the legal equivalent of pogo linux and won
mircea_popescu: mats how much did you spend on this btw ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31900 @ 0.00027602 = 8.805 BTC [-] {2}
mats: the legal database access was free due to my use of a university's subscription and something in the neighborhood of 400 hours
nubbins`: :o
mircea_popescu: no i meant time
mircea_popescu: o.O
mircea_popescu: this has to be a meme. mats pic and the caption "i don't always go on research binges on the internet. but when i do, we're talking 400 hours bish!"
punkman: nubbins`: lol, how many accounts does that guy have on the forum
mircea_popescu: nubbins` your such an idiot man.
mircea_popescu: i did it in my digital print dirivitive. also i added some ants, because it kinda looks like a spider web which makes sense.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Alt flameless flamethrower, various ergot products and DMSO
punkman: ants love playing in spider webs
mircea_popescu: "i have 0 cookies and am so locked down that i have to log in every time a page changes"
nubbins`: in the meantime, i realized that another one of his old customers is also into casascius coins, as he bid on my auction
mircea_popescu: 7.5 proxies.
nubbins`: so it's uh, not just blazed that paid the guy $$$$ for wood :o
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: this was considered by various folks (in somewhat different variant) and the answer is that the product breaks down in water unacceptably quickly.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` i have my doubts blazed paid him anything.
mircea_popescu: more like "here's something, say you paid me a lot for it, it'll look good on both of us"
mircea_popescu: sorta like ver "invested" in whatever the shit.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Can store seperatley though, especially in complex apparatus with multiple pumps and tanks
asciilifeform: <BingoBoingo> mats single handedly took on the legal equivalent of pogo linux and won << considerably more interesting than pogo linux
mircea_popescu: different things, not serializable.
asciilifeform: (which, after all, is a pretty standard 'we have a router, now let's a linux' affair)
mircea_popescu: "I'm calling you out on this one, answer or lose whatever credibility you had because there is 1 MILLION percent no way you have a single shred of proof that i am anyone or anything especially some guy in vietnam who sells wooden shit and if you ain't going to back up your BS i will rally every single body that you pulled your fake "probable alt of _____________" and lead a campaign of ensuring you never have the credi
mircea_popescu: bility to do it again."
nubbins`: where's the threat post...
asciilifeform: tilt
mircea_popescu: badbear being i suppose one of the very few people who managed to wade through the tardsforum and more or less retain some sort of credibility.
nubbins`: lel here's another alt: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=423829.msg4629992#msg4629992
assbot: I need your creativity for 2 minutes PLEASE ... ( http://bit.ly/1GJgoe0 )
nubbins`: bitcoinsociety@yahoo.com was the email used to register the weird cats website, as well as a bunch of random asic mining-related domains
nubbins`: :S
asciilifeform: when did sc4mz0rz stop using 'reg by proxy' services ?
punkman: "I have decided to use half my bitcoin ( about 3,300 coins ) to form a self funded organization with the sole purpose of helping to spread information about bitcoin to the world through mass media, local "troops" or small groups, a website, blog, billboards, magazine ad's, TV. and whatever else 3,300 bitcoins will afford me."
asciilifeform: i mean, wtf, elementary
punkman: "Guerilla marketing is probably the most effective means, vinyl stickers at urinals on mirrors under drive thru windows under the drive thru speaker bumper stickers and the great thing about bitcoin is the stickers could actually have a qr code that links you to some free satoshis so people that never considered buying bitcoin just have to pull out there phone"
punkman: good thread
mircea_popescu: check it out, it's like 2011.
punkman: 2011 or 1981, I mean stickers?!
mircea_popescu: when all the world is young lad, and every scribble a business plan...
punkman: "Nitrogen i totally agree with you on the gorilla marketing idea, I have had lots of ideas on how to move forward, but lost myself in aggravation for 2 days not being able to name it."
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/a-deal-can-be-anything/
assbot: A deal can be anything. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1yTVkee )
nubbins`: heh
asciilifeform: the marvel is not the continued existence of the woodcollectors, as such, but of the plankton they eat
nubbins`: i give up, it's socks all the way down
nubbins`: guy makes socks to call out his other socks for being socks
nubbins`: \o/
mircea_popescu: the wonders of a living wage, and generaly welfare etatism.
mircea_popescu: people gotta do *something* with all that time.
mircea_popescu: dirivitives.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'd be surprised if this character didn't have a grueling day job
punkman: grueling day job and time to make 250 forum accounts?
mircea_popescu: his wife/mother supports him.
mircea_popescu: women are fucking dumb like that.
mircea_popescu: recall the case of the "forum banker" dude ?
mircea_popescu: cartels, stuff ?
asciilifeform: grueling day job could easily be -where- he made 250 accounts
nubbins`: ^
asciilifeform: not on official orders, naturally
punkman: then not grueling
asciilifeform: but while waiting for bell to ring
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2012/bitcoin-lolcows-the-musical-today-kludge/
assbot: Bitcoin Lolcows, the musical. Today, Kludge on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1GJhNB6 )
punkman: more like browsing job
nubbins`: grueling day job walking the aisles, looking for shoplifters
asciilifeform: nubbins`: can you picture how many folks are paid to sit (not necessarily even at a computer, could be a pNohe in one hand) and wait for a bell to ring ?
nubbins`: actually no i'd say he's a full time scammer
nubbins`: the wood coins, the digital prints, the cats for sale, the bullets...
nubbins`: he gets enough dribbles from actual suckers to make it worth doing
asciilifeform: then - not a 'welfare case', no ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform guy's not doing anything sueful. he's too broadly illiterate to ever be able to get a job, and his attitude precludes the sort of job you're thinking about.
mircea_popescu: his manager would basically make him crawl six hours a day.
nubbins`: prob on social assistance, prob supplementing it with scams.
nubbins`: prob sells dope too.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` not even. just, full time internet imbecile. like a "wikipedia editor" or something.
mircea_popescu: "twitter famous"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: he could easily be something like a sysadmin
asciilifeform: or some other 'guardhouse' type
mircea_popescu: and i bet you he does not. he gets enough dribbles in the sense of, attention, to keep whatever unfortunate woman paying the bills.
nubbins`: sysadmin who smokes and owns a lathe?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform sysadmin ? DUDE
nubbins`: although
mircea_popescu: gtfo already. sysadmins CAN SPELL
nubbins`: his hands do look purdy.
mircea_popescu: tf
asciilifeform was once a sysadmin
mircea_popescu: df
mircea_popescu: WTF WAS IT
mircea_popescu: msaux
mircea_popescu: nado stuff.txt
mircea_popescu: hisbory | greb "wut u sae"
nubbins`: heu
decimation: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/power-company-investigated-after-carbon-monoxide-kills-family/ < speaking of welfare state. derp decided to stop paying power bill, power was cut, derp then decided to run gas generator inside the house, killed self and offspring
assbot: Power company investigated after carbon monoxide kills family - CBS News ... ( http://bit.ly/1GJig6z )
asciilifeform: ^ l0l saw that earlier
asciilifeform: darwin nominee
mircea_popescu: power company should get subsidy.
mircea_popescu: "$1000 for each head"
decimation: Todd had received assistance paying his utility bills in the past, but did not apply for help this year, said Tom VanLandingham, who directs the Office of Home Energy Programs in Somerset County. Families can apply once a year, and assistance is based on household income and energy use, among other factors. "We're all kind of baffled as to why he did not apply this year ... that's the million-dollar question," VanLandingham said
decimation: before the utility's announcement.
decimation: lol
asciilifeform: interesting detail that it was generator and not a stove
asciilifeform: typically they try to set up a stove and gasenwagen
decimation: so in the us, you can work to pay usg tax, or work to beg from usg
nubbins`: http://imgur.com/7w3WLGo
assbot: Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1GJir1F )
nubbins`: ^ i suppose those qualify as sysadmin hands
decimation: "Court records identified the boys as Cameron and ZhiHeem, and the girls as Tyjuziana, Tykeria, Tynijuzia, TyNiah and Tybreyia. "
mircea_popescu: nubbins` imo looks like a woman's hand.
asciilifeform: ^^
asciilifeform: that was my thought
decimation: me too
mircea_popescu: yeah, harem agrees. that's a woman.
decimation: is the ring finger shorter than the index?
mircea_popescu: actually, i'l; go on a limb and say that is THE woman.
asciilifeform: ^ iirc that heuristic doesn't werk
mircea_popescu: guy is "managing" her, they make up "a team". he's the "marketeer" because he "can bullshit"
decimation: asciilifeform: sure it does
mircea_popescu: "Tyjuziana, Tykeria, Tynijuzia, TyNiah and Tybreyia." << ;/
mircea_popescu: who wouldn't want to try out an orgy with these five ?
asciilifeform: decimation: which way was it supposed to work again ?
decimation: http://discovermagazine.com/2013/may/04-finger-length-ratio-can-predict-aggressive-behavior-and-risk-of-disease
assbot: Finger Length Predicts Health and Behavior | DiscoverMagazine.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1yTWzKw )
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> recall the case of the "forum banker" dude ? << Kludge!!!
decimation: longer ring finger = more manly
mircea_popescu: and by "predict" we mean "random correlations"
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo ayup
mircea_popescu: in other news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/e42e4ae7dee18106d5e60a02bfeae56c/tumblr_ng1mlr62AZ1sovis0o1_1280.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1yTWGWh )
asciilifeform: decimation: i oughta be a eunuch if it were true
decimation: you have a longer index finger?
asciilifeform: aha
decimation: supposedly one study found it correlated with prenatal testosterone
asciilifeform: i remember reading this crap years ago and calling bull
asciilifeform: maybe we oughta do phrenology next
mircea_popescu: if by it you mean "this looks like a woman's face" ?
asciilifeform: it makes considerably more sense on the surface than the finger thing
asciilifeform: the weird thing about woodsc4mz0r's hands is the lack of whiskers
asciilifeform: (perhaps he did feynman's magic trick with petrol hands one too many times?)
decimation: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2732043/
assbot: Human 2D (index) and 4D (ring) finger lengths and ratios: cross-sectional data on linear growth patterns, sexual dimorphism and lateral asymmetry from 4 to 60 years of age ... ( http://bit.ly/1GJjI8W )
decimation: are you left handed ascii?
asciilifeform: nope
decimation: it's amusing to me that this is actually a controversial point
decimation: how hard would it be to recruit a few thousand people to get a hand xray on a calibrated machine
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46850 @ 0.00027894 = 13.0683 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo is alternately left or right handed depending on the task at... hand
decimation: apparently 'medical researchers' have better things to do
asciilifeform: decimation: no need for xray, just buy off some outfit that handles 'palmprint' door locks for usg
decimation: heh
decimation: yeah a camera under glass would work
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13250 @ 0.00027163 = 3.5991 BTC [-] {2}
decimation: asciilifeform: reading more about the ubiquiti thing, it's not obvious to me that replacing with freebsd would do anything
decimation: one would have to replace the bootloader, and apparently they are refusing to release their mods to u-boot source code
asciilifeform: decimation: it gets rid of the read-only mtd
asciilifeform: decimation: you don't need their mods, except if you're working on exposing the particulars of the fraud
asciilifeform: decimation: just build from scratch as i did for 'pogo'
decimation: asciilifeform: aye, would have to dick around with u-boot and the data sheet
decimation: http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2015/04/07/major-power-outage-in-dc-affecting-umd-white-house/ < But it was a 230,000 volt line that shorted. Partially charred ceramic insulators show electric crews what went wrong at a Charles County switching station, causing midday confusion and triggering a widespread blackout across D.C. and its suburbs.
assbot: Pepco: Downed Transmission Line Responsible For D.C. Power Outages « CBS Baltimore ... ( http://bit.ly/1GJlXJs )
decimation: it's rare that a major distribution line fails like that
decimation: they are supposed to inspect those for exactly this kind of issue
decimation: ^ the power line was probably coming from the nuke plant on the chesapeake bay
BingoBoingo: decimation: Last summer My town suffered a 12+ hour blackout because the largest incoming transmission line melted
asciilifeform: the 'one fallen wire' story is a lie of omission
asciilifeform: there is normally redundancy in the grid.
asciilifeform: the 'one wire,' even if true, can only be the 'straw that broke camel's back'
decimation: yeah, that's a good point
asciilifeform: none of the mouthpieces will discuss this, no surprise
asciilifeform: but it remains.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if the line falls right out of the transformer, like first 100 feet, it may cut it out
decimation: http://www.utilitydive.com/news/cascading-outages-hit-maryland-and-dc-conflicting-reports-emerge-over-caus/384088/
assbot: Cascading outages hit Maryland and DC; conflicting reports emerge over cause | Utility Dive ... ( http://bit.ly/1GJmNG3 )
decimation: it does sound like someone fucked up
decimation: beyond the line failure
asciilifeform: or chinese '3 point' test.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform btw, turns out luxury not so luxurious after all ?
decimation: re: earlier discussion about power generation
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> the 'one wire,' even if true, can only be the 'straw that broke camel's back' << It was August during peak consumption. Amren stopped delivering anything through the town's 5 MW backup line so the 30 MW transmission line failed at 38.5 MW and started a small swiftly contained brush fire. (/me thinks he got the units right)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i heard nothing about caviar spoiling in the fridges at 'lockheed' or 'raytheon'
decimation: actually I think the end result is going to be a mass migration away from centralized power to solar
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform white house was out of power.
decimation: solar has dropped to $3 per watt installed
mircea_popescu: dja understand how un-american htis is ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: whorehouse was also out of power, i bet
decimation: in certain areas of the us, you could buy enough solar panels to power yourself indefinitely for the price of a car
mircea_popescu: "However, there were also multiple reports about an explosion or fire, including a reported explosion at a southern Maryland power plant. "
asciilifeform: decimation: power in the middle of a clear day, sure
mircea_popescu: odds are this was a successful terrorist hit, actually.
asciilifeform: decimation: when not including airconditioner
mircea_popescu: exactly matches the denial pattern
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah, I'm including overage
BingoBoingo: <decimation> actually I think the end result is going to be a mass migration away from centralized power to solar << local hillbill town is about to add solar farm on abandoned manufactering ground to supplement diesel, on coop's dime
decimation: obviously one needs batteries, and that's the rub right nwo
BingoBoingo: NiFe Ftw
mircea_popescu: "Pepco cited a "dip in voltage" as the cause of the outage in its release." derp. the cause of the outage was caused by the cause of the causative agent.
decimation: right, what that means is "Pepco said some stuff, hoping folks would quit asking"
decimation: generally the strategy for utilities is to smile and nod, and wait until next week when nobody gives a shit
mircea_popescu: this was actually bombed.
mircea_popescu: "A Charles County, Maryland official confirmed to Utility Dive that an explosion occurred at a substation. However, CBS reported that their sources tell them there was no explosion at all, while the Associated Press reported that the explosion occurred at a power plant."
asciilifeform: there is -always- explosion at substation!
asciilifeform: this is what happens on overload
mircea_popescu: three people three stories and fractured exactly on the lines of, local authority | propaganda mouthpiece | international agency
asciilifeform: of american-style grid, at any rate
mircea_popescu: actually it should just cut off.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: how knows when to cut ?
asciilifeform: overcurrent
asciilifeform: it's a classic 'how to get fuse that blows before the rest of it' problem
asciilifeform: and is only solvable to a limited extent
decimation: looks like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkDCS8xeobg
assbot: Power Plant Substation Explodes - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1FzTXWV )
mircea_popescu: afaik mostly a solved problem on 200kv lines
asciilifeform: while we're at it,
asciilifeform: http://imgur.com/5UygqI4 << piss-poor t3rr0r1s7, did not even nail my puny hovel
assbot: Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1FzU1WE )
decimation: asciilifeform: that's a serious ups!
asciilifeform: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/29/us/california-power-substation-attacked-in-2013-is-hit-again.html << obligatory oldie
assbot: Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1FzU8BE )
asciilifeform: http://www.sfgate.com/business/article/FBI-Attack-on-PG-amp-E-substation-in-13-wasn-t-5746785.php << 'not terrorism!!'
assbot: FBI: Attack on PG&E South Bay substation wasn't terrorism - SFGate ... ( http://bit.ly/1GJnHST )
mircea_popescu: in other news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/92005a6eace093a5d9ab0155287886fe/tumblr_nhb1a24ONa1rlg8wdo1_1280.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1GJnM98 )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform right, it's only terrorism when mentally retarded derps do nonsensical shit.
asciilifeform: aha.
asciilifeform: the rest is called 'war'
mircea_popescu: when lifelines are taken out by unidentified parties with access to a lot of resources, it's... uh.
asciilifeform: specifically, 'losing a war'
mircea_popescu: "a cause caused a causation"
nubbins`: here's woodcollector a year ago, with a miner group buy scam: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=452850.msg5046715#msg5046715
assbot: [ CLOSED ] VX-1 Miner Group Buy - Free 1 TH/s Miner Giveaway ... ( http://bit.ly/1FzUA31 )
nubbins`: feb 2014 :o
decimation: it's complicating, our brain trust is taking care of it
mircea_popescu: vx lol.
mircea_popescu: http://38.media.tumblr.com/98bac6ee0b3f13d32834aee33295b4a8/tumblr_ngj6scZaxu1u5ddqjo2_400.gif << chump in chumpatron.
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1FzUZ5h )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: unstable bukkake ?
mircea_popescu: lol i guess
decimation: http://www.utilitydive.com/news/why-utilities-could-soon-face-massive-load-defection-and-how-they-can-prev/383558/ < "In only 15 years, RMI research shows, load defection by 9.6 million residential customers in just the Northeastern states could be approximately 58 million megawatt-hours (MWh) annually. Valued at an estimated $15.4 billion, that would be about half the projected utility residential energy sales."
assbot: Why utilities could soon face massive load defection, and how they can prevent it | Utility Dive ... ( http://bit.ly/1FzV9JT )
asciilifeform: ... and what, the furnaces to refine si for panels will also, somehow, run on solar? or is it just that this takes place 'on mars' (asia) and not physically real, somehow
decimation: asciilifeform: as long as the chinese government is willing to subsidize production, why not?
asciilifeform: 'A couple of blocks from the White House, the lights went off for about 30 seconds at the Warner Theatre as Oprah Winfrey delivered a speech honoring Maya Angelou during the dedication of a new postage stamp. After a few seconds, the sound system began to work again, and Winfrey continued her delivery until the lights returned.'
asciilifeform: this could almost be a scene from 'atlas shrugged'
decimation: hehe yeah
mircea_popescu: decimation vehehehehery risky approach this
mircea_popescu: no free lunch and all that.
decimation: what's free? people get tired of blackouts, buy own solar panels & batteries
mircea_popescu: and wtf, they are still derping with that angelou broad ? what, she's "a poet" ?
asciilifeform: decimation: 'buy'
mircea_popescu: decimation china "subsidizes" it like sar subsidizes oil. to fuck the us.
decimation: aye, and the us thinks it is 'winning'
asciilifeform: decimation: not one in 500 usa inmates could afford any of it without subsidy
decimation: well, this is probably true
asciilifeform: not to mention that not one in 10 installations will cover the wattage of the house ac at full sun
decimation: but because it gets added to the real estate bezzletron, it'll get funded
decimation: that part isn't clear - it depends where the house is located
asciilifeform: most solar aficionados forgo the batteries entirely (!)
decimation: in the sunny west, maybe, not so much in the dreary northeast
decimation: ^because batteries are terrible now
asciilifeform: in favour of the meter running backwards mid-day and getting credit on the tab
asciilifeform: batteries come in 'terrible', 'abominable,' and 'abysmal'
mats: anyone remember silicon valley plant going down because of ak47 fire?
decimation: http://www.rtcc.org/2015/03/23/falling-battery-prices-boost-outlook-for-electric-vehicles/
assbot: Falling battery prices boost outlook for electric vehicles ... ( http://bit.ly/1FzWwZc )
asciilifeform: mats: see earlier link!
asciilifeform: mats: some of us remember very, very well.
decimation: batteries can still be terrible and work okay if they become cheap
decimation: economically I mean
asciilifeform: decimation: if thermodynamically expensive - the game ends sooner than chumps expect.
mats: im surprised it hasn't happened again. short teh DJIA, start shooting up coolant rooms at various plants...
asciilifeform: mats: it is quite conceivable that it happened again. today.
decimation: as the article notes, it's already economical to run 'off grid' solar+batteries in hawaii
decimation: but that's because hawaii is fucktarded
asciilifeform: though it is hard to understand why the plotters did not decide to shoot in mid-july
asciilifeform: rather than now, with room-temperature weather
mats: practice run for the summer.
asciilifeform: practice was in 2013.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33606 @ 0.00026489 = 8.9019 BTC [-] {2}
asciilifeform: economics - thermodynamics == chumpatronics.
asciilifeform: magic formula.
asciilifeform: sufficient to cover that idiot kickstarter where 'use your freezer as air conditioner!!11!1' to the battery thing.
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9613 @ 0.00028014 = 2.693 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> practice was in 2013. << Regional differences in the US electric grid are extreme
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21837 @ 0.00028143 = 6.1456 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 351209 | Current Difficulty: 4.944639068824144E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 352799 | Next Difficulty In: 1590 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 14 hours, 32 minutes, and 24 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 48776199716.2 | Estimated Percent Change: -1.35539
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25728 @ 0.00028213 = 7.2586 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34100 @ 0.00028295 = 9.6486 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11750 @ 0.00028552 = 3.3549 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11205 @ 0.00027965 = 3.1335 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: !up felipelalli
BingoBoingo: felipelalli: Thank you for the comments on qntra
felipelalli: BingoBoingo: welcome! it's an honor.
felipelalli: BingoBoingo: so, let's implement that idea? The ransomware promises: deposit X bitcoin to account XYZ and we'll free your data. Then, do nothing! No more "good bad guys", no more hope. lol
BingoBoingo: felipelalli: Well the entire idea of ransomware is premised on people getting their data back if they pay.
felipelalli: only in this way they'll stop to funding criminals.
felipelalli: BingoBoingo: exactly. This will destroy this idea.
BingoBoingo: If people stop paying entirely or people stop returning data selectively the thing falls apart
felipelalli: BingoBoingo: that's the idea!
BingoBoingo: As seriously as people build up the ransomware threat the entire ecosystem is awfully precarious. One could readily kill it with ransomware that did not honor a ransom
felipelalli: BingoBoingo: making a "really lier" ransomware would accelerate this process. hahaha
BingoBoingo: The risk associated with doing such a thing isn't likely worth it compared to other ventures in BTC which are far nobeler to hang for
felipelalli: yes. I was kidding anyway. But would be fun!
felipelalli: would be the terror of the scammers. A "fake scammer" but "really bad and lier" would make the long-term good, after all.
felipelalli: funny to think about it.
felipelalli: This made me remember this: https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Defending%20the%20Undefendable_2.pdf
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jn2VIl )
BingoBoingo: Really the best insulation in bitcoin is a sense of history
felipelalli: what do you mean with "insulation" in this context?
felipelalli: chap III 6. The Blackmailer. Nice chapter. You read crying.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34750 @ 0.00027923 = 9.7032 BTC [-] {3}
BingoBoingo: felipelalli: That healthy sense of skepticism that keeps pirateat40 from replaying over and over on the same scale
felipelalli: BingoBoingo: yes. it's true.
felipelalli: 4:20 AM here, good night BingoBoingo! Thanks for conversation.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6550 @ 0.00027794 = 1.8205 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: k, later
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-04-2015#1091654 <<< should've suggested swordfish if ya gonna troll :P☝︎
assbot: Logged on 08-04-2015 02:11:53; TomServo: mircea_popescu: ever seen Sneakers?
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32627 @ 0.00027761 = 9.0576 BTC [-] {3}
kakobrekla: http://i.imgur.com/vruzm.gif
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1PiKfhk )
mircea_popescu: lol
cazalla: this million dollar extreme dude has some funny shit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWFaG_7RySI
assbot: Gutta Man (Sam Hyde) stand-up, May 2nd, 2013 - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1PiKPeN )
mircea_popescu: is he trying to sound like drexl ?
cazalla: dunno who that is, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14jqZ-bVx3c
assbot: Williamsburg Street Fashion ☠ 1 of 3 ☠ "Emmm..." - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1JnfmE8 )
mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDJ8ocSN5GE
assbot: True Romance Gary Oldman Drexl HD - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jnfq6I )
cazalla: mircea_popescu, good movie? might treck down to the video shop and hire it out
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5073 @ 0.00027034 = 1.3714 BTC [+]
funkenstein_: gamechanger or vaporware?
funkenstein_: http://lightning.network/lightning-network-paper-DRAFT-0.5.pdf
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1c7sxy4 )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.00027348 = 2.434 BTC [+] {2}
funkenstein_: !s beautyon
assbot: 64 results for 'beautyon' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=beautyon
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14977 @ 0.00027307 = 4.0898 BTC [-]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35200 @ 0.00026369 = 9.2819 BTC [-]
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nubbins`: lel
nubbins`: found WC's house
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nubbins`: http://i.imgur.com/BCR5p09.png
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1DJ1RzX )
nubbins`: ^ from the realtor who sold the house 2 years ago ;0
punkman: heh
nubbins`: the fact that the realtor still has videos of the inside of the home on youtube is a separate matter, but...
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39699 @ 0.00027659 = 10.9803 BTC [+] {2}
nubbins`: wow, guy paid less than $30k for his house.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23000 @ 0.00026512 = 6.0978 BTC [-]
nubbins`: okay, and now i've got his name, his wife's name, and his company's name
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11414 @ 0.00028114 = 3.2089 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32156 @ 0.00027031 = 8.6921 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15370 @ 0.00027117 = 4.1679 BTC [+] {2}
lobbes: <nubbins'> okay, and now i've got his name, his wife's name, and his company's name << once you chomp down on a scammer, you don't let go, do you? ;/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34804 @ 0.00027123 = 9.4399 BTC [+] {2}
mats: make a few c.o.d. purchase orders for office supplies
punkman: send him a piece of driftwood
nubbins`: lobbes guy threatened to do unspecified things to me, what else am i to do?
nubbins`: anyway i'm pretty sure the house is owned by his parents or in-laws
nubbins`: either that or the guy is in his mid 70s
nubbins`: but yeah. deeds dating back to the early 80s for this property
nubbins`: all the way up to feb 2014
nubbins`: i wonder if he's a licensed breeder for those purebred cats he's selling?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13385 @ 0.00025862 = 3.4616 BTC [-] {2}
mats: https://syscan.org/index.php/download SyScan 2015 slides
assbot: SyScan :: Download Section ... ( http://bit.ly/1yVrvtL )
lobbes: <nubbins'> lobbes guy threatened to do unspecified things to me << O.o Link in the logs? This guy sounds like a full-time scammzor (with the 'miner group buy' scam, et al). Plenty of sustenance in that forum, too
lobbes: i wonder if he's a licensed breeder for those purebred cats he's selling? << prolly just uses lathe on cats he finds on the street
nubbins`: haha
nubbins`: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1011340.msg11016307#msg11016307
assbot: [2015-04-03] The 5,000Btc hidden treasure, and the key to finding it. ... ( http://bit.ly/1N9mfyp )
punkman: "Within 5 minutes of you starting in with your shit i had people messaging me your address in Canada, Your phone number, the address for your print shop, more information than anyone would want someone like me to know if they wated to start shit, its very clear that you have pissed a lot of people off in the past with this shit you pull as they all came rushing in to DOX the fuck out of you, and i am just asshole enough to make use of i
punkman: "How many pizzas do you think i can have delivered to you at home and work, how long do you think i can tie up your phone with robo dial, ever heard of swatting? " << this guy...
punkman: did anyone ever get swatted in canada?
mats: canada has swat?
danielpbarron: someone from -otc sent me a pizza once; just so happened to be the same day as my weekly poker game so i just paid for it
mats: so helpful
Chillum: punkman: No "swat" but I have had a battering ram knock in my door and cops with shields and guns rush in. They have a different name
Chillum: it was a misunderstanding, I was acquitted
nubbins`: punkman my full mailing address is already on the forums
nubbins`: so i don't know what the guy's bragging about :P
nubbins` makes no effort to hide personal info
nubbins`: also, given the number of times i've called the cops on shady dealings in my neighbourhood, i've got my doubts that any cop would do anthing to my door beyond politely knocking on it
nubbins`: but hey, we can all dream
nubbins`: https://www.etsy.com/ca/shop/BruceWayneWoodArtist
assbot: Wooden Creations By Artist Bruce Wayne by BruceWayneWoodArtist ... ( http://bit.ly/1IsIMD3 )
nubbins`: lel
danielpbarron: !ud bruce wayne
danielpbarron: ;;ud bruce wayne
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Bruce+Wayne | Residing in Gotham City, billionaire Bruce Wayne is a well respected socialite, philanthropist, and owner of the multinational conglomerate, Wayne Enterprises.
Chillum: sounds like a nice guy
nubbins`: yeah
nubbins`: anyway, got a solid bead on the guy now. found the construction company he started in NY in 2010
nubbins`: he says he's ordering dinner for me, which is thrilling
mats: report the etsy store
mats: obv not 'hand carved'
mats: https://foreignpolicy.com/2015/04/06/to-catch-a-spy-biometrics-cia-border-security/ lol
fluffypony: nubbins` is an alt of BadBear?
fluffypony: this guy is reaching
nubbins` shrugs helplessly
fluffypony: I wonder if I can fake a pic of the 1000 coins
fluffypony: and claim I found them
nubbins`: hmm
nubbins`: i would actually like this
nubbins`: blockchain analysis says this didn't happen, but w/e
mats: ;;seen kakobrekla
gribble: kakobrekla was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 7 hours, 51 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: <kakobrekla> http://i.imgur.com/vruzm.gif
nubbins`: i hope WC orders me a good type of pizza
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 371 @ 0.00273 = 1.0128 BTC [-] {4}
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 390 @ 0.00273265 = 1.0657 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 518 @ 0.00271505 = 1.4064 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 390 @ 0.00273265 = 1.0657 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.0002593 = 2.5411 BTC [+]
mod6: <kakobrekla> http://i.imgur.com/vruzm.gif << haha
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1PiKfhk )
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 412 @ 0.00280484 = 1.1556 BTC [+] {4}
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 431 @ 0.00284088 = 1.2244 BTC [+] {5}
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mats: https://cansecwest.com/csw15archive.html
assbot: CanSecWest Applied Security Conference: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada ... ( http://bit.ly/1a68kHp )
mats: https://cansecwest.com/slides/2015/SCADASL%20-%20root%20via%20sms%20CanSec%20v4%20last.pptx
mats: ^ 'Bootkit via SMS: 4G access level security assessment'
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35400 @ 0.00025647 = 9.079 BTC [-] {3}
nubbins`: SSD showed up
nubbins`: purple pogos still in ontario ;/
nubbins`: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/31vl7q/there_is_a_targeted_attack_on_bitcoin_occurring/cq5h23e
assbot: TotesMessenger comments on There is a targeted attack on Bitcoin occurring right now, coordinated by national agencies. I know this because I am an insider with prior involvement in a key operation. ... ( http://bit.ly/1PknucE )
punkman: http://www.rinsedaily.com/drexel-university-professor-sends-anal-bead-porno-to-class/
assbot: Drexel University Professor Sends Anal Bead Porno to Class ... ( http://bit.ly/1a6avKM )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7694 @ 0.00025393 = 1.9537 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14936 @ 0.00026631 = 3.9776 BTC [+] {2}
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: http://dpaste.com/22CZGG0 << mirror of the (since censored) reddit turd
assbot: dpaste: 22CZGG0: mirror of crud ... ( http://bit.ly/1Pks0rT )
lobbes: "DISRUPT - Divide community consensus and steer towards Operational and COMMAND objectives by means of standard counter-actor and sabotage procedures."
ascii_field: it's a snore.
ascii_field: reddit users: does it have to be a moderator who deletes a piece, to result in the '[removed]' label?
ascii_field: or can user do it himself.
lobbes: I believe a user can remove his own, though I'm not sure if that results in the [removed] label
ascii_field: afaik it does not.
lobbes: I think you are correct. I just did a quick test; no [removed] flag. Just disappears from the page. Going to the url just displays the 'by [deleted]' flag
lobbes: looks to be censored
ascii_field: or 'censored'
ben_vulpes: who's on the qntra /reddit as usg mouthpiece/ beat?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3764 @ 0.00026954 = 1.0145 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9955 @ 0.00025522 = 2.5407 BTC [-]
fluffypony: I just got a spam mail
fluffypony: from Coinbase
fluffypony: "Want to become a professional investor? Our first short-term investment program starts today - GET 150% FOR A 10-DAY DEPOSIT."
fluffypony: "Investors who want to apply, please make a deposit to 12imkbv4SzUJ3tdWT9j2yfuGirrsHoMDso or click the link below https://blockchain.info/qr?data=12imkbv4SzUJ3tdWT9j2yfuGirrsHoMDso&size=400"
fluffypony: here's the odd thing
fluffypony: Received: from o1.em.coinbase.com (o1.em.coinbase.com. [])
fluffypony: by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w20si10513481icc.3.2015.
fluffypony: for <ric@spagni.net>
fluffypony: and it has a valid DKIM signature
fluffypony: "em.coinbase.com designates as permitted sender"
fluffypony: (appears to be a sendgrid.net mail)
fluffypony: so I think CoinBase's SendGrid account has been compromised?
ben_vulpes: cavirtex acquired by coinsetter
mircea_popescu: o.O
mircea_popescu: wait, in this lalaland of imaginary imaginations the newspapers acquire the failed banks ?
ben_vulpes: your symbol table's borked
mircea_popescu: oh, i see, because they have no btc, all they have is "mindshare", and in respect to that pseudo-capital coinsetter is better capitalised than cavirtex ?
mircea_popescu: mostly because coinsetter thinks it can print ?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes which one am i confusing ?
ben_vulpes: newspapers?
ben_vulpes: sure, coinsetter's not liked around here but grok i not how 'tis a newspaper.
mircea_popescu: what is it, iyo ?
mircea_popescu: an "information aggregator" ?
ben_vulpes: http://www.coinsetter.com << that
assbot: Trade Securely on Wall Street's Bitcoin Exchange - Coinsetter ... ( http://bit.ly/1aL5AjK )
mircea_popescu: dude i swear there was a different coinsetter that was trying to be a sort of coindeks
ben_vulpes: integrity check to mircea_popescu's symbol table please
mircea_popescu: !s coinsetter
assbot: 14 results for 'coinsetter' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=coinsetter
mircea_popescu: Jaron Lukasiewicz Bitcoin CEO/Founder o.O
ben_vulpes: they may have some slave in the third world cranking aggregation on their blog, perhaps that's what's got you spun.
mircea_popescu shrugs.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-04-2013#7424☝︎
assbot: Logged on 30-04-2013 01:55:22; mjr___: kakobrekla: "The skateboard ride to Saks today was a little rough, but the skateboard back was great!" I am not joking that is the latest status update from coinsetter CEO...he's a nice guy
mircea_popescu: i dunno why they were filed under "just another subreddit" but w/e.
mircea_popescu: it honestly doth not seem so very mistaken upon review.
mircea_popescu: the angel list thing they got is a tad lulzy. ( https://angel.co/coinsetter )
assbot: Coinsetter | AngelList ... ( http://bit.ly/1CpI6X4 )
mircea_popescu: Ben Davenport
mircea_popescu: Co-founder & CPO at @BitGo. Co-founder of @Beluga. Running Bitcoin syndicate on AngelList.
mircea_popescu: Timothy Bhattacharyya MD
mircea_popescu: “
mircea_popescu: I believe in markets and trading to increase the wealth of the world."
mircea_popescu: an' Charles DiMaggio. an' silbert, of course.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11050 @ 0.00025472 = 2.8147 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: trinque http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-04-2015#1091054 << wtf happened here ?!☝︎
assbot: Logged on 07-04-2015 15:20:37; deedbot-: accepted: 2
mircea_popescu: oh nm got bundled with later thing.
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: heap fragging in bitcoind.
mircea_popescu: no ?
ascii_field: almost certainly yes.
mircea_popescu: definitely yes.
mircea_popescu: it's been danced around with all sorts of patches and whatnot, but multiple ddos avenues related to fragmentation.
ascii_field: anyone mention it before i just now ?
mircea_popescu: i know bitcoinj ran into it plentifully.
ben_vulpes: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 246.0, Best ask: 246.01, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 246.01, 24 hour volume: 38386.95711616, 24 hour low: 242.72, 24 hour high: 256.4, 24 hour vwap: None
mircea_popescu: ascii_field part of the problem is that you're stuck mushing together items that can arbitrarily be anything between 100 bytes and whatever, 250kb. and there's a lot of them. no way to allocate but dynamically, willy-nilly keep getting them allocated and deallocated and again and again.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: i know what heap fragging is
mircea_popescu: no, i just mean, with bitcoin is to some degree unavoidalbe, because txn.
ascii_field: entirely avoidable if one plans for it
mircea_popescu: yeah well.
ascii_field: typically this is handled with custom 'multi-generational' allocator
mircea_popescu: yes but it's worse than that : if you have an elegant alocator and the people do not, your chain will fork and theirs will not.
mircea_popescu: this is one of those places where bug to bug compatibility rears it's ugly butt.
jurov: what part of buttcoin depends on memory allocation?
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: if allocator leads to fork, it is wrong
mircea_popescu: kinda why idiots (and by that i mean satoshi) shouldn't be allowed to code in the first place. but hey, we believe in the power of belief...
mircea_popescu: ascii_field it will construct and mine a block that makes everyone else crash, conceivably.
mircea_popescu: and subtly, to boot.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: a proper 1m block should never be able to 'make everyone crash'
jurov: even improper
ascii_field: if such a thing could, then bitcoin is buggy and the sooner it is detonated, the better
mircea_popescu: i am atm not sure it couldn't.
mircea_popescu: in fact, this has happened (not due to the heap issue, true)
ascii_field: the bdb thng ?
mircea_popescu: yes the locks thing
mircea_popescu: note very similar issue : exhausted locks, exhausted heap...
ascii_field: it was an epic lameness and a number of folks ought to have felt the stake
mircea_popescu: yeah well. let me propose something for you here. just for curiosity's sake, a rough model.
mircea_popescu: so i broadcast 50k 140 byte txn. you allocate these, they fail, you deallocate them. before you had time to go through the lot however,
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> dude i swear there was a different coinsetter that was trying to be a sort of coindeks << I constantly run into new ventures that imagine they are qntra competitors
mircea_popescu: i also broadcast 50k 150 byte txn. these go in your pile, and on fresh memory.
mircea_popescu: !up ascii_field
mircea_popescu: by the time you're entirely exhausted, i broadcast some more txn and mine a block with them.
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> who's on the qntra /reddit as usg mouthpiece/ beat? << There is a trilema post tracking this phenomenon, but if you want to elevate it to a sustained operation go for it.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: this in fact happens 'in the wild.' the only reason it does not lead to forks where folks with, e.g., 1GB of ram wheel off into a parallel universe from folks with 2GB, and 4GB, etc. is,
ascii_field: that the fragging issue itself results in ludicrously overpowered boxes being put to use
mircea_popescu: that everyone uses about as much ram ?
mircea_popescu: right.
mircea_popescu: but it remains a problem, this.
ascii_field: where the garbage has time to coalesce
mircea_popescu: note that this is one of the majorest issues lurking in the "larger blocks"
mircea_popescu: currently the 1mb limit is blessfully keeping THIS (among its many sisters) under the water.
mircea_popescu: that gavin [pretends like he] doesn't know such is exactly why the verbiage as to the retarded boy in one of my articles debunking the nonsense.
jurov: i don't see the issue why that would lead to fork per se.
jurov: you just flush the disk cache by your misallocations and then take longer to verify the block
mircea_popescu: but do you mathematically see the proof where it never would ?
mircea_popescu: different standards here.
mircea_popescu: in general, going by the "never one single bug in kitchen, and noting that bdb locks are a resource of the kind that pointers are, just one easier to exhaust, i propose this as likely, on the basis of my business heuristics.
mircea_popescu: which obviously differ from your coder heuristics. but differ to our benefit.
jurov: bdb is much more coplicated and hard to debug api than malloc/free
mircea_popescu: every word is complicated for whosoever doesn't read.
mircea_popescu: and the bitcoind allocation scheme isn't a jewel or anything.
ascii_field: 'isn't a jewel' << mega-understatement of the century
jurov: nothing is a jewel here
mircea_popescu: fuck you, i'm a jewel.
jurov: yea, like you never make mistakes
mircea_popescu: no, like a jew.
mircea_popescu: only with -el.
ascii_field: like sapper.
ascii_field: sappers get to make their one mistake.
ascii_field: at any rate, this gedankenexperiment is an interesting one - where does 'bug for bug compatibility' legitimately stop? are we obligated to crash for 1GB of uncoalesceable crud, or 2GB? 4? 16?
mircea_popescu: this afaik has never been seriously measured
mircea_popescu: we don't care atm, because we know experimentally the system as deployed is stable.
ascii_field: didn't say that it was (except that it - was, i measured)
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, before any sort of change, like say a block size increase, this will have to be measured
mircea_popescu: among many other things
ascii_field: more high-level dilemma here
mircea_popescu: not among which, the opnion of reddit, the headers of miners etc.
ascii_field: at what point do 'we' get to proclaim that folks using the buggy version are retarded ?
mircea_popescu: not how this is handled.
mircea_popescu: we explain the problem, publish the measuring tools, let people declare themselves retarded.
ascii_field has no idea how, or even whether, this is handled.
mircea_popescu: once enough do... problem solved.
mircea_popescu: before... we wait.
mircea_popescu: like i've been waiting, on many things, for many years.
ascii_field: and until then, what? we are required to leak at the same rate as which extant bitcoind?
ascii_field: gavin's?
ascii_field: the java turd ?
mircea_popescu: until then, we hang out in irc.
ascii_field: we don't even know for a fact what it is the miners use..
mircea_popescu: and say yes and no as people ask and wonder.
mircea_popescu: as teh expression goes, "relax, you have plenty of time. tomorrow - you die."
ascii_field: to continue with the line of thought, as soon as we so much as frag less than gavin's turd, someone - anyone - could send us off on a fork of less-retardation.
ascii_field: simply by churning out 'godelian' blocks for gavincoin
mircea_popescu: maybe. it's a complicated thing.
nubbins`: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/31umjo/3m_video_are_intel_processors_compromised/
assbot: 3m video "are Intel processors compromised?" #welcometorealpolitics #bitcoin : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1amuUff )
nubbins`: man, reddit's taking a page from the book of alf today o.O
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4939 @ 0.00025223 = 1.2458 BTC [-]
ascii_field: snore.
ascii_field: http://danluu.com/cpu-backdoors << not the first time a usg shill spins amd's lack of encipherment or signature enforcement on microcode updates as a weakness
assbot: CPU backdoors ... ( http://bit.ly/1amwkq8 )
ascii_field: 'oh noez non-crippled hardware, someone other than usg could modify it'
punkman: AMD's "management engine" equivalent is also bad, isn't it though
ascii_field: punkman: not mandatory
ascii_field: or, another instance of this idiocy,
ascii_field: at one time there was much crowing re: a 'xilinx fpga backdoor'
ascii_field: turned out, it was possible to read back the bitstream from a 'locked' unit
ascii_field: 'oh noez, the chip is auditable when we don't want it to be! boobytrap!'
ascii_field: and a few microcontrollers, ditto
ascii_field: in every single case, it was a 'oh noez this is accidentally auditable'
ascii_field: oh noez the user is not caged properly! there are a few loose bars!
punkman: ascii_field: not mandatory, as in I can get a motherboard without it?
ascii_field: pathetic buggers, doing the one and only thing they are good at - 'spinning the controversy'
ascii_field: punkman: yes.
ascii_field: punkman: for how long - cannot say
punkman: guess I'll have to look into that
punkman: any part numbers you'd recommend?
ascii_field: punkman: i'm partial to older 'tyan' boards
ascii_field: (e.g. 'thunder' series, '07 and prior)
mircea_popescu: ascii_field have you seen the recent "gamer desktops" recommendations btw ? nothing but intel.
mircea_popescu: "it's better"
mircea_popescu: yeah, im sure it is lawl.
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: i must confess that it is not a subject i regularly follow.
mircea_popescu: nor i, but since ima play eulora...
ascii_field: but i will point out that it has become -nearly- impossible to assemble a proper workstation without recourse to 'antiques' vendors
ascii_field: and among portable computers, amd is extinct other than in 'disposable' models
mircea_popescu: seems teh usg-consensus pretty much is to make amd extinct.
punkman spies old Athlon cartridge on bookshelf
jurov: lolwut, eulora will need recent hardware?
ascii_field: jurov: iirc it uses 3d graphics...
ascii_field actually does not own a 3d card
ascii_field: believe or not.
jurov: 3d as needed by eulora is here... 10years or so?
mircea_popescu: jurov just about yeah
mircea_popescu: it's not very demanding.
mircea_popescu: punkman wasn't the "management engine" an intel thing ?
punkman: mircea_popescu: AMD has an equivalent
ascii_field: it does.
punkman: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/01/14/amd_plugs_chip_firmware_holes/
assbot: AMD plugs firmware holes that allowed command injection • The Register ... ( http://bit.ly/1amB1jF )
punkman: I think I linked that video before
mircea_popescu: im not disputing that, just, what was it called.
punkman: System Management Unit (SMU)
mircea_popescu: ah yes
mircea_popescu: other one was ame or ami or something
punkman: AMT?
mircea_popescu: somethng like that
punkman: let's just call it CANCR
BingoBoingo: Back in college the phrasing to trigger a smoke break was "Do you think you can handle a cigarette now?" "I think I Can, Sir."
mats: http://www.amazon.com/What-Makes-It-Page-Windows/dp/1479114294 << this is excellent, for those that feel compelled to learn about windows 7
assbot: What Makes It Page?: The Windows 7 (x64) Virtual Memory Manager: Enrico Martignetti: 9781479114290: Amazon.com: Books ... ( http://bit.ly/1amFHWN )
ascii_field: mats: yes it is!
mats: finally got myself a hard copy after some searching of the interwebs. nobody has bothered to warez, yet...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25539 @ 0.00025467 = 6.504 BTC [+] {3}
nubbins`: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=846852.msg9447582#msg9447582
assbot: [WTB] Exotic woods from around the world with Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1amFYcf )
nubbins`: ^ here's where woodcollector agrees to make the "$14,000 wooden B" for... 1 btc.
nubbins`: so there's yr answer i guess
nubbins`: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=846852.msg9450425#msg9450425
assbot: [WTB] Exotic woods from around the world with Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1amGarP )
nubbins`: "just keep it $200 - $400 range and impress me."
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16692 @ 0.00025522 = 4.2601 BTC [+]
jurov: obama should ask him for $1T wooden bitcoin next time he's got probs with fed
fluffypony: lol
fluffypony: Obama should just find the secret case
nubbins`: ^^^^^^^^^^^^
nubbins`: also, he never ordered supper for me like he said he would >:(
mats: youtube.com/watch?v=zvImG-0uIX4
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29550 @ 0.00027389 = 8.0934 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: Solaris 12 moving to pf as default/only firewall https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=142822852613581&w=2
assbot: 'pfi_kif leaks for PBR rules' - MARC ... ( http://bit.ly/1amJGT3 )
mircea_popescu: who even runs solaris anymore.
mircea_popescu: ;;google ebay assus m5a78l
gribble: Asus M5A78L-M/USB3 | eBay: <http://www.ebay.co.uk/bhp/asus-m5a78l-m-usb3>; AMD X8 Core FX-8350 4.0Ghz & ASUS M5A78L-M USB3 ... - eBay: <http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AMD-X8-Core-FX-8350-4-0Ghz-ASUS-M5A78L-M-USB3-Board-CPU-Bundle-/150946558067>; ASUS M5A78L-M/USB3 Socket AM3+ AMD mATX Motherboard - eBay: <http://www.ebay.com/itm/ASUS-M5A78L-M-USB3-Socket-AM3-AMD-mATX- (1 more message)
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Probably jsut a handful of "businesses" that found themselved locked in
mircea_popescu: hmm so the ~90 i paid for it isn't really THAT outrageous.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57689 @ 0.00025817 = 14.8936 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13746 @ 0.00025086 = 3.4483 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-04-2015#1092078 << how much would you want someone to pay for a house in fuckbuckett.☝︎
assbot: Logged on 08-04-2015 12:28:32; nubbins`: wow, guy paid less than $30k for his house.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-04-2015#1092088 << best.☝︎
assbot: Logged on 08-04-2015 14:03:00; punkman: send him a piece of driftwood
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-04-2015#1092094 << you don't have to be licensed if you handbreed them.☝︎
assbot: Logged on 08-04-2015 14:07:48; nubbins`: i wonder if he's a licensed breeder for those purebred cats he's selling?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-04-2015#1092107 << internet toughboi sends many pizzas (=9) to house of his archenemy that doesn't even know about it just as archenemy (that doesn't know about it) was having random party. arrives just in time, everyone's happy.☝︎
assbot: Logged on 08-04-2015 14:55:01; danielpbarron: someone from -otc sent me a pizza once; just so happened to be the same day as my weekly poker game so i just paid for it
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-04-2015#1092110 << lol wait, you were acquitted of police breaking and entering ?☝︎
assbot: Logged on 08-04-2015 15:04:18; Chillum: it was a misunderstanding, I was acquitted
mircea_popescu: "your honor, this man is totally innocent of what the police did to his house."
mircea_popescu: holy shit this guy is ALSO bruce w ?
mircea_popescu: what is with this name.
lobbes: everybody wants to be batman, I guess
mircea_popescu: https://www.etsy.com/ca/listing/226944173/large-wenge-purpleheart-hand-turned-wood?ref=pr_shop << i coulda sworn i saw this somewhere before.
assbot: Large Wenge & Purpleheart Hand Turned Wood by BruceWayneWoodArtist ... ( http://bit.ly/1E7BylC )
danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-04-2015#1092172 << another mirror -> https://archive.today/http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/31vl7q/there_is_a_targeted_attack_on_bitcoin_occurring/☝︎
assbot: Logged on 08-04-2015 18:48:06; ascii_field: http://dpaste.com/22CZGG0 << mirror of the (since censored) reddit turd
assbot: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/31vl7q/there_is_a_targeted_attack_on_bitcoin_occurring/: There is a targeted attack on Bitcoin occurring right now, coordinated by national agencies. I know this because I am an insider with prior involvement in a key operation. : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1E7C1V1 )
jurov: anyone can explain to me why the reddit turd is considered seriously here?
jurov: please?
BingoBoingo: jurov: I've got nothing.
jurov: i get nothing, too :D
mats: slow day.
mats: http://i.imgur.com/O5rYZZS.gifv
assbot: Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1CWoKMT )
mircea_popescu: jurov i think peeps be trolling
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, i have nfi why they don't use cocoa powder to disperse crowds.
mircea_popescu: grind that shit fine enough, throw it in the air...
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> speaking of which, i have nfi why they don't use cocoa powder to disperse crowds. << You just end up with a different crowd with a heavier category of people
mod6: "in fuckbuckett." lol
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo nah, you ever seen what happens if you accidentally a bag ?
jurov: i'd like to try stevia sometime. it is already available in fine powder
mircea_popescu: can't fucking breathe.
jurov: or a combiantion
mircea_popescu: jurov "PDFs/PPTs or it didn't happen." was pretty good...
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo nah, you ever seen what happens if you accidentally a bag ? << I get the most delicous coffing fits.
mircea_popescu: right ?
mircea_popescu: i mean people would come with their freshly baked cookies for a dusting...
mircea_popescu: just changes the shape of the crowd.
jurov: crowdshaping
BingoBoingo: Fuck, grandpa had a stroke Friday and he's already back to walking around normally. The only thing that seems to have changed is he actually takes his blood pressure medicine.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40350 @ 0.00025959 = 10.4745 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: Only only hope that if I make it to 90 I can be that durable.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16800 @ 0.00026302 = 4.4187 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: depends on how you eat.
BingoBoingo: I guess I better get a hold of meals on wheels
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-04-2015#1092133 << sounds roughly worth the lulz☝︎
assbot: Logged on 08-04-2015 16:15:40; fluffypony: and claim I found them
TomServo: cazalla: should've suggested swordfish if ya gonna troll :P << shit, I was serious. I must be using my rose-tinted glasses on this one. I'mma have to rewatch this now.
mircea_popescu: so are we gonna call teh usg ops "tiki taka" ? seems adequately derpy...
mircea_popescu: "oh we shall send people in #bitcoin-assets as per standard counter-actor and sabotage procedures to be made within hours and laughed at all the way to the front desk."
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-04-2015#1092189 << apparently no investors ?☝︎
assbot: Logged on 08-04-2015 19:36:57; fluffypony: "Investors who want to apply, please make a deposit to 12imkbv4SzUJ3tdWT9j2yfuGirrsHoMDso or click the link below https://blockchain.info/qr?data=12imkbv4SzUJ3tdWT9j2yfuGirrsHoMDso&size=400"
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-04-2015#1092197 << either that or they've been spamming since forever as business / usual.☝︎
assbot: Logged on 08-04-2015 19:38:27; fluffypony: so I think CoinBase's SendGrid account has been compromised?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you care enough about coinbase to write up this latest lulz ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I haven't been up long enough to get good sourcing on it. If someone else want to write it up I'd check and publish it.
BingoBoingo: fluffypony ^
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46500 @ 0.00025634 = 11.9198 BTC [-] {3}
BingoBoingo: lol https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/31wjt7/coinbase_scam_email_alert/cq5nbch
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