mircea_popescu: when you peer into the b-a, the b-a peers back into you.
cazalla: i've updated the ulbrich appeal with pdf and text of the motion of a new trial if anyone was interested in reading it http://qntra.net/2015/03/ross-ulbricht-seeks-new-trial/
assbot: Ross Ulbricht Seeks New Trial | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1BU5Rv4 )
cazalla: bah, that pdf to text converter butchered a bunch of paragraphs
cazalla: fixed
mircea_popescu: cool
mircea_popescu: http://40.media.tumblr.com/c4795082b23d573a3276a12484bea300/tumblr_n1st82xHTv1ttw7kgo1_500.jpg << thermorectal in a good way! check it asciilifeform
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1KEa3oi )
mircea_popescu: "Thompson was faced with a hardware environment cramped and spartan even for the time: the DEC PDP-7 on which he started in 1968 was a machine with 8K 18-bit words of memory and no software useful to him."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9650 @ 0.00035498 = 3.4256 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: 8k x 18 is still a fuckton if there's no extraneous crapolade in there
asciilifeform: how many folks here have written enough asm (let's be liberal, pick any arch) to fill 8k?
asciilifeform has, and it took a while
asciilifeform: before anyone says 'but the data set' - people in the 'age of xx kB' often kept them on tape and operated piecemeal
asciilifeform: see the 'tape sorts' featured in the knuth aop centerfolds, for example
mircea_popescu: it's about 2-4k instructions. a week's worth ?
asciilifeform: if you do nothing else
asciilifeform: and writing mostly 'from your head' already.
asciilifeform: then yes.
cazalla: i take it noone here got an invite to evoorhee's wedding lol
mircea_popescu: well if you're going to write asm you'd better know the opcodes.
mircea_popescu: uh wasn't that in 2013 ?!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: meant the overall logic, rather than opcodes (of course you know the opcodes, that isn't what takes time)
mircea_popescu: for all the american beauty fans : http://41.media.tumblr.com/69d4a34cc4a125868a9f77b1adb73899/tumblr_mzpd5kUAsW1s8p58po1_1280.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Bja8pW )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you said write, not you know, make useful stuff :D
cazalla: mircea_popescu, nfi, just saw an image posted a few hours ago, assumed it was from today, guess not
asciilifeform: since he came up, i'd still like to understand why he took to spam
cazalla: wow, some tumblr pics that aren't 320x480 for once
mircea_popescu: trinque "Last updated 2015-03-03 07:34:57.895386" ?
asciilifeform: http://fetlife.maybemaimed.com/reverse-the-spin.html (from mircea_popescu's comment section) << mega-l0l
assbot: FetLife lies, like, a lot. ... ( http://bit.ly/1COfJYp )
mircea_popescu: really, bitcoin is quite aptly "a microscope". specifically, in this case : the sort of bs idiocy we deride used to pass for "business" and "entrepreneurship" as a regular thing. sop.
mircea_popescu: those dudes find themselves in the position where atrocities that were just fine suddenly are viewed as atrocities by a cohesive group.
mircea_popescu: talk about business disruption.
trinque: mircea_popescu: yeah, I've been running the uploader by hand; I'm around to do so
asciilifeform: betcha they see #b-a as something not unlike how normal people see militant 'vegans'
trinque: sometime this weekend I'm going to make some improvements to the thing, including uploading via cronjob
asciilifeform: 'what do you mean i shouldn't butcher my chumps'
trinque: !up deedbot-
trinque: I've had a highlight on deedbot- in the meantime
mircea_popescu: i think "isis" is really the only available symbol to describe chtulhu, the borg, entity q and so forth.
thestringpuller: how is cthulhu and the borg related?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: idk, in my head it inevitably evokes a horde of orcs and headsoff.com
mircea_popescu: by being isis.
mircea_popescu: "This is the Plesk™ default page"
thestringpuller: in what sense? fucking shit up?
asciilifeform: jacquerie with kalash is still jacquerie
mircea_popescu: meanwhile http://pantiesoff.com ...
assbot: pantiesoff.com: The Leading Pantie Off Site on the Net ... ( http://bit.ly/1COgKzI )
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller no, in the sense of not dating.
thestringpuller: oh
thestringpuller: haha
thestringpuller: hahaha
mircea_popescu: also no cc debt, not caring about college, no idea what a quarterpounder with cheese is, completely dissinterested in police sirens in traffic etc.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: robespierre also did not have cc debt, care about college, nor ate 'quarterpounder', nor ever heard a police siren ...
mircea_popescu: and also was isis.
asciilifeform: nor did any street urchin watching the chop show
mircea_popescu: also.
asciilifeform: but these folks definitely are not the 'clean backup' for unamericanized civ
asciilifeform: the way north kr at least partly still is
mircea_popescu: lmao no wai.
asciilifeform: they've all seen jpeg porn; probably half tasted the burger
mircea_popescu: wait, i think i lost the convo.
asciilifeform: they aren't uninfected
asciilifeform: is what i was getting at
mircea_popescu: who ?
asciilifeform: 'isis'
asciilifeform: or whatever the physically-existing pieces thereof are
mircea_popescu: isis the symbol, not isis the real item it purports to stand for.
asciilifeform: (vs the usg fiction)
asciilifeform: aha
mircea_popescu: there's zero relation there.
asciilifeform gets it
asciilifeform: limonov's 'escapees from the sanitary asylum' yes.
asciilifeform: as an abstract entity
mircea_popescu: average usian has never traveled, never read a book in a foreign language, never fucked a woman he didn't know etc. his ideas of "isis" are necessarily a reflection of his own pen, nothing else.
asciilifeform: (his gadaffi essay, among other items quoted here in the past, were in 'the disciplinary sanitarium' - great piece on more-or-less this ^)
mircea_popescu: heck, even something as banal as jurisdiction limits or alternative currencies are "confusing" and uncomfortable.
asciilifeform: jurisdiction limits don't confuse americans at all in application to -other- (vassal or non-usg jurisdiction) places
mircea_popescu: half the usian literature (which is 2/3s cinematographic) revolves around the shock and horror of... BORDERS!111
mircea_popescu: that's the main epic device : he crossed the state line!111
asciilifeform: no one in usa thinks that french law applies to him
mircea_popescu: i doubt they generally comprehend there is such a thing.
mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cey35bBWXls
assbot: Can she be THAT stupid? - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Bjd2Lk )
thestringpuller: !t m s.qntr
assbot: [MPEX:S.QNTR] 1D: 0.00028609 / 0.00028609 / 0.00028609 (10000 shares, 2.86 BTC), 7D: 0.00027068 / 0.00027668 / 0.00028609 (25682 shares, 7.11 BTC), 30D: 0.00021897 / 0.00026524 / 0.000301 (72444 shares, 19.22 BTC)
mircea_popescu: that's some crazy volume
mircea_popescu: pretty much the whole float o.O
thestringpuller: mike_c must be doin something...
thestringpuller: mr. bear
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15900 @ 0.0003393 = 5.3949 BTC [-] {2}
cazalla: lulz, so my parents called to tell me qantas landed a 747 in the town i grew up in, looked like the entire fkn town was there to watch it too (tbh, wish i could've been there ha) http://imgur.com/u0t6Asf,psLiFgA,aywdo0B
assbot: Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1Nvzlnk )
cazalla: everyone will be talking about for weeks, months, probably even years to come
Pierre_Rochard: ^ prime minister visiting? emergency landing?
Pierre_Rochard: got it: http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-advice/historic-qantas-747-400-makes-precision-touchdown-on-its-final-journey/story-fn6yjmoc-1227253502844
assbot: Historic Qantas 747-400 makes precision touchdown on its final journey ... ( http://bit.ly/1NvAlI9 )
cazalla: Pierre_Rochard, i think they're going to put it on display at the airport museum or something
cazalla: when we use to wag school to go to the beach, we'd cut across the tarmac at that airport to get to the train station quicker (they put up fencing after 9/11, you could basically wander across it prior to that)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15300 @ 0.00033182 = 5.0768 BTC [-]
cazalla: !up whaack
whaack: ty
whaack: does the MIT btc conference fall in the category of shit you guys give interest to?
adlai guesses that the burden of relevance proving is on the messenger
adlai: you have a voice, use it!
cazalla: not really whaack, same speakers, same sponsors, same shit
adlai: from what i've heard, they want to form a Third Foundation. this is getting even thicker than asimov
whaack: Joi was saying that yeah he wanted an organization that worked on hardware wallets
whaack: devoid of interests in profit or political affairs, but merely the ideals of bitcoin
adlai: whaack: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1299
assbot: Loper OS » Don’t Blame the Mice. ... ( http://bit.ly/190fXPr )
danielpbarron: i feel like this relates to the conversation not too long ago about buying hardware for specific purposes, and how it tells your enemy exactly how he can screw you
whaack: adlai: ah yes I've read this, I like it a lot. I'm currently taking the task of building my own hardware and writing my own transaction signing tool. It's difficult though and pushing the limits of my feeble brain
adlai: what hardware are you building?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 200 @ 0.0125 = 2.5 BTC [+]
whaack: adlai: Haha I guess I should say I've mentally told myself I'm going to do the task - no work has been put in yet. But I just want to build my own bitcoin tool. I probably won't wind up using it but I want to prove to myself that I'm able to do it.
adlai: if you have those abilities, why not put them to use building something useful?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00033322 = 1.7327 BTC [+] {2}
cazalla: !up chiral
adlai: “These defendants stand accused of conspiring to carry out the violent overthrow of a foreign government, in violation of U.S. law,” said Attorney General Eric Holder. http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/two-defendants-charged-their-role-attempted-coup-gambia
assbot: Two Defendants Charged for their Role in an Attempted Coup in The Gambia | OPA | Department of Justice ... ( http://bit.ly/1ErF6Qr )
mircea_popescu: adlai from what i've heard, they want to form a Third Foundation. this is getting even thicker than asimov << lolz. the part where they carefully avoid the why of it, and how exactly the old one died is also the part that ensures they stay irrelevant.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell whaack Joi can get in the wot.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: adlai this is different from nuland how ?
adlai: armed insurrection, like suicide, is only punishable when failed
mircea_popescu: but nuland's ukraine coup failed so spectacularly it's contending with the iran contra affair.
adlai: well the us plays the role of global policeman, and suicide-by-cop is not punishable (except for maybe retiring the individual cop early, since he won't make a good public face for the department)
mircea_popescu: i'd totally prosecute her.
mircea_popescu: anyway, those fucking idiots. just how hard is it to mine a coupla guard towers.
mircea_popescu: in "the gambia"
mircea_popescu: !up chiral
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00033805 = 2.434 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: weirdest shit of all time :
mircea_popescu: - - [08/Mar/2015:01:59:53 -0500] "GET /five-bucks-for-great-justice/ HTTP/1.1" 302 - "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; +http://www.google.com/bot.html)"
mircea_popescu: - - [08/Mar/2015:03:00:00 -0400] "GET /steampunk-tower-defense HTTP/1.1" 302 - "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; +http://www.google.com/bot.html)"
mircea_popescu: took me like five minutes to figure out wtf happened with that one hour gap.
adlai: eastern standard siesta
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mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: "The most important of these has been the tolerance of C compilers to errors in type. As should be clear from the history above, C evolved from typeless languages. It did not suddenly appear to its earliest users and developers as an entirely new language with its own rules; instead we continually had to adapt existing programs as the language developed, and make allowance for an existing body of code. (Later, the ANSI
mircea_popescu: X3J11 committee standardizing C would face the same problem.)"
mircea_popescu: the birth of the problem, i guess.
mircea_popescu: "Nevertheless, C's approach to strings works well." :D
[]bot: Bet placed: 2 BTC for No on "BTC to top $413 before Songkran" http://bitbet.us/bet/1122/ Odds: 22(Y):78(N) by coin, 21(Y):79(N) by weight. Total bet: 14.93804235 BTC. Current weight: 69,887.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12562 @ 0.00033062 = 4.1532 BTC [-] {2}
adlai: lol! https://bitbet.us/bet/1122/#c4636 OP is clearly ignorant of S.BBET's ownership...
assbot: BitBet - BTC to top $413 before Songkran :: 3.23 B (22%) on Yes, 11.71 B (78%) on No | closing in 1 month 14 hours | weight: 69`820 (100`000 to 1) ... ( http://bit.ly/1FtMdVI )
ben_vulpes: your nightly wtf: http://dpaste.com/2Y11CPJ
assbot: dpaste: 2Y11CPJ ... ( http://bit.ly/1FtOMa4 )
ben_vulpes: golang json parser barfs on quoted empty arrays.
ben_vulpes: apparently.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11832 @ 0.00034574 = 4.0908 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4394 @ 0.00034981 = 1.5371 BTC [+]
ben_vulpes: (although who knows - maybe i'm a moron for trying to pass it quoted empty arrays)
punkman: so I just got a call from the Congo, didn't have enough time to pick it up. wonder what kind of scam it was
adlai: good thing you didn't answer, might have been implicated in a coup
kakobrekla: i got one from azerbaijan last friday evening.
cazalla: and i got one from all your mums
cazalla: and now i'm going to bed! zzz
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43400 @ 0.00033718 = 14.6336 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20500 @ 0.00032771 = 6.7181 BTC [-]
danielpbarron: https://twitter.com/landsknechting/status/574482741690900480
assbot: /hashtag/AggressiveCleavage?src=hash- the /hashtag/GamerGate?src=hash OP I've been in training for my entire life... they pay me for this, y'all... http://t.co/fSEA2kheDL
adlai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-07-2014#771797 << http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-03-2015#1045931 ☝︎☝︎
assbot: Logged on 27-07-2014 02:14:01; asciilifeform: http://kyristor.com << dumped my ancient derpage in there for archaeologists to derp on.
assbot: Logged on 08-03-2015 05:40:23; danielpbarron: i feel like this relates to the conversation not too long ago about buying hardware for specific purposes, and how it tells your enemy exactly how he can screw you
danielpbarron: height=261137 vs height=202574 (usb3: height=235199)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27000 @ 0.00034593 = 9.3401 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22722 @ 0.00034736 = 7.8927 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11950 @ 0.00032771 = 3.9161 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: conversation not too long ago about buying hardware for specific purposes, and how it tells your enemy exactly how he can screw you << that observation was specifically about integrated circuits. which the buyer, barring extraordinary investment in time and machinery, cannot inspect.
punkman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIgjogLipvk
assbot: MIT Bitcoin Expo 2015 Day 1 - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1BldMQ1 )
punkman: lol, antonopoulos telling people "blockchains without bitcoin is lightbulb without electricity"
punkman: probably not the best analogy for people that don't understand lightbulbs
punkman: !up ecstaticpessimst
punkman: your IP leaks because your client autojoins channel before cloak is activated
punkman: either configure "SASL" login, or disable autojoin
ecstaticpessimst: Ya, im actually getting that fixed RN
ecstaticpessimst: thanks for the headsup though
punkman: so did you get DoS'd the other day?
ecstaticpessimst: nope, I mean I probably would have noticed right?
punkman: well some people report their internet/router going down for short periods
ecstaticpessimst: Oh, I wasn't browsing from my home network. maybe I caused some problems for some other people....that would be exciting
punkman: I enjoyed the maritime story btw ;)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22900 @ 0.00035251 = 8.0725 BTC [+]
Pierre_Rochard: ;;later tell pete_dushenski my compliments to the chef for the latest contravex post, all of the ingredients were perfectly cooked
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30750 @ 0.00032767 = 10.0759 BTC [-] {2}
jurov: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 273.5, Best ask: 273.82, Bid-ask spread: 0.32000, Last trade: 273.83, 24 hour volume: 23811.29817168, 24 hour low: 271.61, 24 hour high: 280.76, 24 hour vwap: None
jurov: orly
jurov: !mpif
assbot: BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021361 B (Total: 467.13 B). Delta: 0.00 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.000207 BTC [+]
jurov: https://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2015/03/msg00133.html haha the replies
assbot: Debian 8/jessie - SECCOMP_FILTER_FLAG_TSYNC ... ( http://bit.ly/1EtaaiJ )
jurov: !up yhwh_
asciilifeform: RIP last usable graphical www browser (chromium, that is, not chrome, but doubt that either will be runnable after this)
jurov: what's the problem with firefox?
jurov: !up Uglux
Uglux: hello
ben_vulpes: what on earth is tsync?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1406.1/01964.html
assbot: Linux-Kernel Archive: [PATCH v6 7/9] seccomp: implement SECCOMP_FILTER_FLAG_TSYNC ... ( http://bit.ly/18sRul2 )
oglafbot: http://oglaf.com/geometry/
assbot: Problems in Geometry ... ( http://bit.ly/18sRx07 )
ben_vulpes: waaay over my head.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: short summary: patch submitted by google chrome devs themselves; supposedly to simplify their sandbox 'jail' mechanism
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: it was tentatively accepted, but is not found in mainstream kernels - considered experimental
asciilifeform: and, up until now, nothing made use of it
asciilifeform: but now google intends to force it through with the usual 'or we take the ball and go home' gambit.
asciilifeform: which should immediately make your ears stand up
asciilifeform: i deliberately won't comment on the technical aspects (can't bring myself to give a damn) but the psychological patterns point to - power play
asciilifeform: as mircea_popescu might phrase it
asciilifeform: 'camel wants his nose in the tent'
asciilifeform: perhaps this is worth a brief digression:
asciilifeform: there are -two- separate types of policy re: a major project with 'open' contributions
asciilifeform: the 'what' - gets in
asciilifeform: and
asciilifeform: the 'who' gets to contribute
asciilifeform: shitgnomism is a thing mainly because these two very separate considerations somehow ended up munged into one
asciilifeform: as if it were possible for the machine itself to protest and say 'i don't like this particular 'what,' it was written to brutally rape the operator when the planets next align'
asciilifeform: bringing it back to the 'tsync' thread, there are two separate questions that the evil dwarves would have us believe are simply one - the technical merit or lack thereof of the 'tsync' mechanism
asciilifeform: whereas the real issue is, whether google should be permitted to stuff arbitrary strange into mainline kernel on their say-so
asciilifeform: a good chunk of the reputation of linus t. is that he's been fairly effective at keeping a lid on this kind of thing, historically
asciilifeform: but my impression is that he's the 'boy stuffing his finger in the flood dike' as in the fairy tale
asciilifeform: if finger ever comes out - enjoy 'chrome os'
ben_vulpes: what's the graphical www browser story over on le bsds?
asciilifeform: i was speaking generally
asciilifeform: i don't consider browser that won't build across the whole posix planet to even 'count' for the purpose of discussion
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15199 @ 0.00034798 = 5.2889 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: i'm also not especially interested in 'hair shirt' browsers;
asciilifeform: the folks who are willing to use 'lynx' for 100% of their www needs already know who they are.
thestringpuller: hair shirt?
thestringpuller: asciilifeform does use lynx!
thestringpuller: "Get your filthy javascript and css away from me"
asciilifeform: hair shirt >> http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07113b.htm
assbot: CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Hairshirt ... ( http://bit.ly/1ATrkyw )
punkman: I don't mind the CSS, but the javascript situation is ridiculous
thestringpuller: hey asciilifeform i have a brilliant idea
thestringpuller: how about we store private GPG keys in the javascript portion of the browser!
thestringpuller: what could possibly go wrong?!?
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: already baked...
asciilifeform: what was it called
asciilifeform: 'keybase' ?
punkman: there's a few of them
thestringpuller: i thought keybase held your keys for you cause people are stupid
asciilifeform: http://en.academic.ru/pictures/enwiki/83/St_Aspais_Melun_-_cilice.jpg >> hair shirt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1ATrBla )
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: at any rate, that particular flavour of idiocy has been around for a while
punkman: btw remember Shrem signing with openpgpjs, didn't even validate
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: but its almost comical nao tho.
ben_vulpes: was it even shrem?
thestringpuller: like this is stuff for a good stand up
punkman: we'll never know
punkman: thestringpuller: they more wanted to make a "better" keyserver, that linked to your twitter/github/whatever.
thestringpuller: http://i.imgur.com/t2sfuot.jpg
ben_vulpes: punkman, thestringpuller: a "better keyserver"'d not be a bad thing to do.
thestringpuller: punkman: keybase is forcing users to trust in central authority rather than forcing users to learn "their lessons"
punkman: thestringpuller: no the encrypted key backup thing is optional
punkman: but it's an option that shouldn't exist
thestringpuller: exactly
ben_vulpes: key backup as a service is downright braindamaged.
thestringpuller: which causes more braindamages cause "consumer has come to expect"
ben_vulpes: "please compromise and brute force this juicy target."
asciilifeform: 'wallet inspector'
thestringpuller: should come up with list of scam phrases
punkman: oh they got their own javascript pgp now https://keybase.io/kbpgp
assbot: kbpgp - PGP in JavaScript ... ( http://bit.ly/1ATs9HQ )
punkman: I think they had openpgp.js before
thestringpuller: saw node.js
thestringpuller: closed the tab
thestringpuller: why run GPG on node.js when you can just you know use GPG....
punkman: lol https://keybase.io/kbpgp/docs/in_the_wild
assbot: kbpgp - PGP in JavaScript ... ( http://bit.ly/1ATskCV )
asciilifeform opened up the distribution zip, flipped randomly, and saw a page full of nist curves !
asciilifeform: lol!
ben_vulpes halfway expects 'node' 'gpg' to shell out to platform bins
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: https://pgpkeygen.com/
thestringpuller: before you open that link
thestringpuller: if you have an anurism
thestringpuller: it's not my fault
asciilifeform: looks as if it were meant for homework
asciilifeform: for maths students
asciilifeform: that's the only use case i can really think of for this
thestringpuller: "Yes, it is as safe as generating your keys using a local application. The key generation on our website is done client-side only. This means the key pairs are generated entirely in your web browser and they never leave your computer. Our website never sees any key related data or the key itself."
thestringpuller: written by a TA XD
asciilifeform: l0l, so it was serious ?!
asciilifeform not surprised, and vaguely remembers this having been posted here before
thestringpuller: 10 years from now when phuctor starts detecting broken entropy systems
thestringpuller: I will be interested in seeing what happens when you throw a key generator from here into the mix
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: i must confess that the most likely reason its bell has never rung is that i haven't the resources to actually process the 5 mil. or so donated pubkeys sitting here on local disk
thestringpuller: and you don't want AWS in a zoo or with a gnu
asciilifeform: at any rate, only a serious case of braindamage would sabotage a key generator in such a way that duplicate moduli are produced
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: it's on aws right now
ben_vulpes: http://www.afralisp.net/index.php << decimation i think was looking for CAD scripting?
assbot: Learn AutoLISP for AutoCAD productivity | AfraLISP ... ( http://bit.ly/1ATsV7F )
thestringpuller: http://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/2yaahb/til_bertrand_russel_said_in_the_modern_world_the/cp7ob2k << the irony kills me here
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: if you're unfamiliar with it - autolisp is a 1970s style lisp (complete with unsolved 'funarg problem' !) similar to emacs elisp
ben_vulpes: i am indeed unfamiliar with it.
asciilifeform: the kind of lisp undergrads tend to implement
asciilifeform: if ordered to 'write a lisp interpreter in three weeks'
ben_vulpes: http://www.openscad.org << the cad program i mistook for freecad in a several months old thread.
assbot: OpenSCAD - The Programmers Solid 3D CAD Modeller ... ( http://bit.ly/1ATtazF )
thestringpuller: only LISP use in my undergrad program is in the AI courses
thestringpuller: i don't think the undergrads are smart enough to implement lisp
punkman: http://punkmanufacturing.com/wiki/software << small directory of CAD software
assbot: Software [Punk Manufacturing] ... ( http://bit.ly/1ATtePF )
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: implementing a programming language of one kind or another is, afaik, still sop as homework
asciilifeform: and lisps are generally the easiest
ben_vulpes: lisps are so damn easy.
thestringpuller: punkman: lol. how did autocad not make the list?
ben_vulpes: cute, freecad has a REPL
thestringpuller: all CAD should have REPL
thestringpuller: all 3d software should have some kind of REPL
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: i think brainfuck was the only thing that fits that criteria during my undergrad at least
thestringpuller: most of the undergrads coming in had never seen a programming language in their lives so...
thestringpuller: "OMG I can make money programming compooters, i'd better jump on the CS bandwagon"
ben_vulpes: i still think CS is the worst way to make money programmering.
punkman: thestringpuller: everyone knows autocad, doesn't need to be in list
thestringpuller: it's the first cad software I used so I guess it's kinda "mainstream" now
thestringpuller: ben_vulpes: how so? what in your opinion is the best way?
ben_vulpes: avoid "baccalaureate" bezzle, hack js and css.
ben_vulpes: that is, if you really lack the kind of mind that hungers for something beyond "money".
thestringpuller: isn't that why people get CS degrees, or were getting?
thestringpuller: now people drop out in 1st year and go to SF and work for start up after start up
thestringpuller: hacking the js's and css's
ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: "OMG I can make money programming compooters, i'd better jump on the CS bandwagon" << you tell me
BingoBoingo: Studying CS would be a fine path if only the studiers would accept being deprived of computers until their 30's
decimation: http://techcrunch.com/2015/03/08/on-secretly-terrible-engineers/ < mostly rambling but has an interesting point "The difference between finance, management consulting, and engineering is that the first two fields have status hierarchy, and the third one doesn’t."
assbot: On Secretly Terrible Engineers | TechCrunch ... ( http://bit.ly/1ATuK4o )
punkman: decimation: plenty of hierarchy, just not very coherent when observed from distance
decimation: punkman: yeah that's a good point. the outside visibility on a superficial level is somewhat obscure
kakobrekla: BingoBoingo> Studying CS would be a fine path if only the studiers would accept being deprived of computers until their 30's < hehe my old man was writing code years before he first saw a computer.
adlai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-05-2014#663732 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 07-05-2014 02:02:08; gribble: The Story of Mel - Catb.org: <http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/story-of-mel.html>; The Story of Mel: <http://www.cs.utah.edu/~elb/folklore/mel.html>; The Story of Mel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Story_of_Mel>
ben_vulpes: decimation: all i know is how to google shit.
decimation: I suppose that part of the problem really is that humans need a few more generations to sort out how to have a 'status hierarchy' for programmers
ben_vulpes: i don't know about that. generally working with any given individual for a few months is enough to suss out their competence.
ben_vulpes: this also entails delegating projects of various scope in different domains to them and then carefully reviewing delivered code and user-facing features.
ben_vulpes: but really it comes back to the wot.
ben_vulpes: buenos dias
mircea_popescu: hola zorro
mircea_popescu: the daily wtf comes to us from eliza i. http://trilema.com/2014/the-womans-job/#comment-112565
assbot: The woman's job. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1GvRvDK )
mircea_popescu: "You beast! You will pay hand over fist, you and the [Romanian political party]'s newspaper The Power that allows you to shit your dirty shit! This time you're fucked! See you in court garbage!"
mircea_popescu: fancy that.
mircea_popescu: ironically, those people like me about as much as us democrats like ron paul.
scoopbot: New post on Qntra.net by cazalla: http://qntra.net/2015/03/bitcoin-mining-gains-in-difficulty-network-grows-stronger/
mircea_popescu: that was the receiving end. the providing end however, http://dpaste.com/1CPDMJY
assbot: dpaste: 1CPDMJY ... ( http://bit.ly/1GvSaF2 )
decimation: http://www.econtalk.org/archives/2015/02/michael_munger_1.html < "Guest: And that--I do want to keep defending Buchanan. What Buchanan's worried about is a monolithic Leviathan. Because he thought, once you have a state, it will just eat all of the other choices. It will pull all of them inside, like a sort of great vortex. All of the choices will become public because that's the way that states work. That's the logic, is to expand.
assbot: " + soundfiledesc + " ... ( http://bit.ly/1GvSgN2 )
decimation: Which is why he wanted private groups."
mircea_popescu: who the fuck is jonathan buckwheat.
mircea_popescu: heh if only. in fact, the state doesn't pull all choice into becoming public. that's an insanely optimistic view of the process. the state pulls public choice into meaninglessness, and then ruins all alternative.
cazalla: pete_dushenski, not sure my comment went through but fyi, the bitcoin center ny is getting into incubating startups if you didn't know already :)
pete_dushenski: cazalla not only did i not realise that, but your comment was definitely caught up on the spamhole so thx for the heads up !
cazalla: prolly because i included a link
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell Pierre_Rochard mais merci !
gribble: The operation succeeded.
cazalla: your spambot clearly works if it labels pivoting to incubating startups as spam
pete_dushenski: cazalla no doubt :)
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 275.02, Best ask: 275.1, Bid-ask spread: 0.08000, Last trade: 275.05, 24 hour volume: 17501.41698256, 24 hour low: 271.61, 24 hour high: 279.39, 24 hour vwap: None
mircea_popescu: none ?! what teh shit.
pete_dushenski: mebbe vwap measuring sv bitcoin start-ups
pete_dushenski: measures*
mircea_popescu: lol
pete_dushenski: scoop-a-loop: http://www.contravex.com/2015/03/08/bitcoin-is-unfair-thats-the-point-and-so-it-shall-remain/
assbot: Bitcoin is unfair. That’s the point and so it shall remain. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1GvT4Bu )
mircea_popescu: i like that he's doing at least one a day.
mircea_popescu: and to top it all off : http://38.media.tumblr.com/23c332feb8bc5b13e17d084ba8ca5df2/tumblr_mxr5mixX1T1t52lk3o2_250.gif
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1GvTpnI )
mircea_popescu: this has been your morning installment of daily wtf.
BingoBoingo: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-03-2015#1045381 << lol☝︎
assbot: Logged on 07-03-2015 15:47:58; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform why not ethyl ?
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu i'm guessing that's 'daddy' and not 'daniel' ;)
mircea_popescu: such a perfect mirror for the peak of l'aile ou la cuisse
pete_dushenski: when was this peak ?
pete_dushenski: this is the movie you're referring to ?
mircea_popescu: ;;google "l'aile ou la cuisse"
gribble: L'aile ou la cuisse (1976) - IMDb: <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074103/>; The Wing or the Thigh - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wing_or_the_Thigh>; A.O.C. L'aile ou la Cuisse | Home: <http://aocnyc.com/>
mircea_popescu: ^
pete_dushenski: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xc2Ln2wYwi0 << check out that merc 600 !
assbot: l 'aile ou la cuisse - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1GvTLL9 )
mircea_popescu: mhm
mircea_popescu: funes knew shit.
pete_dushenski: as driven by idi amin, etc.
pete_dushenski: looks like !
mircea_popescu: ima review it now. apparently i haven't.
pete_dushenski: nice.
pete_dushenski: i have cold hand luke on the schedule for today.
pete_dushenski: looking forward to finding a story worth exploring therein
decimation: pete_dushenski: did you see the top gear where they review the 'dictator class' mercs?
pete_dushenski: ooo i want to say yes but can't recall exactly!
pete_dushenski: newer mercs ? older ones ?
pete_dushenski: http://www.bbcamerica.com/top-gear/guide/season-11/episode-5/ << this ?
assbot: Episode 5 | Season 11 | Episode Guide | Top Gear | BBC America ... ( http://bit.ly/1ATAFGA )
decimation: heh there were a few I guess
decimation: it was an older one, clarkson claimed he owned it
decimation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVDKztQ-n1U < clips of the Mercedes grosser
assbot: Grosser vs. Corniche: Old Car Challenge Part 1 - Top Gear - BBC - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1GvUXOz )
pete_dushenski: ya, jeremy has/had one, often whined that new window switches were $5k or something
pete_dushenski: pretty sure gaddafi had one as well. pol pot too
decimation: hehe yeah, well it's pretty much a museum piece
pete_dushenski: driveable art !
decimation: there's a somewhat similar market for 'restored' wwii aircraft
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: my understanding is that folks who own machines like this, either become amateur machinists or cultivate a relationship with an actual machine shop
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: it's a surprisingly common 'old man hobby' where i live
pete_dushenski: or... have one in-house
pete_dushenski: well, old men have little else to occupy themselves with so they're always in search of projects
asciilifeform: folks with 2,3,4+ classic cars under leather skins in their yard, in various states of repair
asciilifeform: and a mazerati's worth of cnc gear in the cellar
pete_dushenski: it's definitely ambitious in its own way
decimation: asciilifeform: the thing that gets me, is that what percentage of the 'car' was actually original?
decimation: at some point, are you just driving a replica?
asciilifeform: decimation: usually all of the visible parts and as much of the engine as can be helped
asciilifeform: (these folks are generally preoccupied with the authenticity of the engine, unlike, e.g., the famous cuban mechanics, because that's actually the part they imprinted on as children)
pete_dushenski: original or hand-made, either or a combination of the two are desirable.
pete_dushenski: and cubans could desire authenticity all they want and it still won't happen
pete_dushenski: like french croissants or beluga caviar
pete_dushenski: for usians, authentic parts are available, if expensive or just plain hard to find
decimation: I recently toured a 'restoration' shop where they rebuild wrecks from wwii
decimation: old men pay top dollar for these things, some of which were found as a wreck in the jungle. the end result has maybe 30% 'original' parts
pete_dushenski: there are barn-find ferrari *shells* that go for millions
pete_dushenski: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/05/classic-cars-france-farm-fetch-millions-ferrari
assbot: Classic cars found in French farmhouse expected to fetch millions | World news | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1GvWaoZ )
decimation: interestingly, for the aircraft they pound out the frame using hammer press machines
decimation: I asked 'why don't you just use a cnc mill to shape the parts'. the answer: 1.) they apparently don't 'do' computers and 2.) the aircraft were all half-ass made to the blueprints anyway, often with 'by hand' adjustments
pete_dushenski: and today boeing outsources its parts to asia and... gets fucked.
pete_dushenski: there's much to be said for controlling your supply chain and having it in your backyard/garage/basement
fluffypony: my supply chain is in my fridge
decimation: pete_dushenski: it's hard for the 'capitalists' to refuse china's offer to 100% subsidize their manufacturing business
ben_vulpes: <decimation> I asked 'why don't you just use a cnc mill to shape the parts'. the answer: 1.) they apparently don't 'do' computers and 2.) the aircraft were all half-ass made to the blueprints anyway, often with 'by hand' adjustments << uh yeah that's how hand machining worked
pete_dushenski: fluffypony lol which is stocked by your better half, i imagine ?
fluffypony: exactly!
pete_dushenski: that's a lot of trust there.
decimation: ben_vulpes: yes, and granted many of these parts had complex curve shapes
pete_dushenski: decimation except boeing is tbtf
pete_dushenski: they're not capitalist in any sense of the term
pete_dushenski: they're usg through and through
pete_dushenski: so why not 'create jobs' ?
decimation: pete_dushenski: yeah that's why I put the scare quotes :)
decimation: boeing is in the business of being various state's bitch
pete_dushenski: unless of course this is a case of, like mp's observation on the decline of the british empire, there being no good men left to do what has to be done
pete_dushenski: no men of morals left in the states, work gets shipped abroad
decimation: I think there might be some of that, but I also doubt that britian's 'good men' could get much done trapped in the crazy monkey house of a modern us bureaucracy
pete_dushenski: sure, i'm not saying it's entirely the fault of the men in the context of their work, but it is their fault in the context of the systems of governance they support
pete_dushenski: so americans support welfare and free shit, so no one bothers to get up for work.
decimation: yes. for instance, the fact that the bond market in the us freaked out because a semi-good jobs report might imply that the fed might begin 'targeting' higher rates
pete_dushenski: to the extent that they don't have to, that no one is holding a gun to their head and they aren't starving, why bother ?
pete_dushenski: decimation there's no cause and effect there.
pete_dushenski: jobs reports have fuck all to do with anything.
pete_dushenski: heh the montly mpex reports matter more.
decimation: of course not, but direct government interventions do
mircea_popescu: scoopbot
decimation: the amusing bit is that folks think they are trading in a 'free market', but then actually act like they are scared government lackeys
pete_dushenski: scared of government lackeys how ?
decimation: well, when you are trading on the wholly-owned 'usd-coin' platform, it's easy to be scared when usg decides to tinker with various model parameters mid-flight
pete_dushenski: it seems to me that, at this point certainly, there's more general fear when there *isn't* tinkering
pete_dushenski: daily, if possible.
decimation: well, the other part of this issue is that the fed isn't tinkering alone, you also have the euros doing what they do
decimation: the idea that anyone could 'consider the implications' of whatever decision they make in the matter of bank interest rates, money supply, etc is pretty lulzy
pete_dushenski: "because history never happened and things are different now"
pete_dushenski: right.
decimation: pretty much yeah
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski http://trilema.com/2015/laile-ou-la-cuisse/
assbot: L'aile ou la cuisse pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1A5vy6f )
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu jesus christ on a cross you're fast. like seriously.
mircea_popescu: actually i took a break.
pete_dushenski: you would ;)
mircea_popescu: lol
pete_dushenski: so -assettes, anyone have any restaurant recommendations for jamaica ?
pete_dushenski: i enjoyed the ones you gents sent for oz :D
pete_dushenski: feel free to pgp-gram or ;;later tell if you've been to the home of usain bolt and.... other fast runners.
decimation: pete_dushenski: I presume you aren't going to one of those 'all-inclusive' resorts populated by the usian middle class?
pete_dushenski: not until one of them makes food that isn't better used on livestock
decimation: heh
pete_dushenski: if i'm going to do that to myself, i'll hop on a cruise ship
pete_dushenski: at least see a few different ports :)
decimation: yeah I did that once, the scant few hours at port makes it difficult to see anything other than the usual tourist garbage
decimation: and the food was mediocre in quality, but great in quantity
mircea_popescu: what cow eats that stuff!
pete_dushenski: mostly, yes, but it depends both on the size of the ship and where the ports are.
pete_dushenski: usg'ers !
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> or cultivate a relationship with an actual machine shop << this is how itworked in the 80s too lol. a guy had to have relatiuons with mechanics.
mircea_popescu: just like a woman had to have relations with beauticians.
decimation: mircea_popescu: http://www.npwrc.usgs.gov/news/press/ontape.htm " When she first recorded a deer eating nestlings, she wondered if they would eat eggs, too. She incorporated the help of a captive deer at the research center to find out. "We presented it [captive deer] with a few quail eggs -- just to see what it would do -- and it munched them right up."
assbot: 'Herbivores' busted preying on bird nests ... ( http://bit.ly/1KHAv04 )
decimation: apparently 'herbivores' are more than happy to eat little packages marked 'free protein'
pete_dushenski: decimation sounds like a normal cruise experience ! some islands are built up exclusively for tourists, but in real cities, whether shanghai or split, you can at least walk for a few hours in one direction and still have room to explore
decimation: pete_dushenski: yeah but 'real places' generally cost $$$, which is why cruises avoid them
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu sorta the best way to not get anally gaped by mech/beautician.
decimation: for instance, my cruise ship also had a port of call on "Hispaniola"
scoopbot: New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/laile-ou-la-cuisse/
pete_dushenski: no relationship (dealership): $225/hr, relationship (small shop): $110/hr.
mircea_popescu: <decimation> the end result has maybe 30% 'original' parts << old men don't want the original parts of their wife, they just want a construct that looks like the wife did, in 72.
pete_dushenski: decimation depends on your budget really.
pete_dushenski: and timing.
decimation: turns out, this is a private peninsula of hati, wholly owned by royal caribbean. since it would be far too dangerous for the locals to serve up the vittles, the entire crew disembarked to operate the various bars and amusements on the 'beach'
pete_dushenski: i went on a cruise of se asia in 2002 when the post-9/11 deals made it... affordable.
decimation: meanwhile the surrounding seas were littered with shipwrecks
pete_dushenski: lol that's actually pretty funny.
pete_dushenski: sounds like disneyland or somethign.
pete_dushenski: something*
decimation: http://www.cruisecheap.com/cruise-lines/royal-caribbean-labadee.html < the glossy sheets still sell it as 'hispaniola'
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1KHBKN5 )
decimation: mircea_popescu: re: old parts < yeah, especially since this particular shop specialized in making 'flyable' aircraft
mircea_popescu: <fluffypony> my supply chain is in my fridge << you eat molds ?
decimation: http://www.cruiselawnews.com/tags/labadee/ "The cruise line has been criticized for erecting a barb-wire fence around the resort to keep the Haitians out (photo right),"
assbot: : labadee : Cruise Law News ... ( http://bit.ly/1A5zi7I )
mircea_popescu: <decimation> I think there might be some of that, but I also doubt that britian's 'good men' could get much done trapped in the crazy monkey house of a modern us bureaucracy << no, but they wouldn't be, see ? that's the very definition. "good men" is, obama comes and derps, they point and laugh, obama calls the national guard, they shoot it dead.
mircea_popescu: <decimation> the amusing bit is that folks think they are trading in a 'free market', but then actually act like they are scared government lackeys << quite!
mircea_popescu: dude pete_dushenski's cruizin' all over the world, buyin' cars and shit, but not conference ?!
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 275.47, Best ask: 275.48, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 275.6, 24 hour volume: 15922.63362314, 24 hour low: 271.61, 24 hour high: 278.73, 24 hour vwap: None
pete_dushenski: not mine, mind.
mircea_popescu: NO!1
mircea_popescu: whose then, your wife's ?!
pete_dushenski: YES!
mircea_popescu: i guess mike gets it at 275, there being no average o.O
pete_dushenski: lol that was supposed to be for the NO...
mircea_popescu: !b 7
assbot: Last 7 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3YC2RDT.txt )
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 1950/275
gribble: 7.09090909091
pete_dushenski: it's some good friends that're getting married.
pete_dushenski: they'd have to be, amirite ?!
mircea_popescu: ya lol
pete_dushenski: the 4th is already mentally marked in the calendar
pete_dushenski: so barring births, deaths, or more weddings...
mircea_popescu: lol you're at the wrong age tho. prolly get 12-20 ppl marry a year.
pete_dushenski: well, not much i can do about that, is there.
pete_dushenski: other than totally hermitise myself.
pete_dushenski: although jeez, after ditching facebook and a smartphone, i seem to be moving in that direction.
mircea_popescu: <decimation> and the food was mediocre in quality, but great in quantity << in the 90s it was the best thing for avg romanian chick, work the cruise ships.
pete_dushenski: i've met one or two romanian dudes working on cruises, ex-gynmast or w/e cum 'fitness trainers'
mircea_popescu: yup
pete_dushenski: they slayed hard.
decimation: mircea_popescu: the one I was on was crewed mostly by filipinos. I think the different cruise lines 'specialize' in different 'third world' recruitment
mircea_popescu: i think so yea
mircea_popescu: ;;ud slay hard
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=slay | slay. to mercilessly fuck, bone and or screw a shady/skanky girl. 1) I would definately slay that chick! 2) I slayed the fuck out of that hoocker last night! 3) Slay that ...
mircea_popescu: hm.
decimation: at any rate, a shapely young lady could probably make decent money working the bar on a cruise ship
mircea_popescu: or anything else.
decimation: heh true
mircea_popescu: from what i hear, buncha old derps.
mircea_popescu: with money.
pete_dushenski: i sweat the young attractive men do better on those ships
pete_dushenski: swear*
mircea_popescu: outright prostitution is contentious, but then again this was pre viagra. couldn't get it up anyway.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski of course. women 3x, and they CAN get it up.
pete_dushenski: older husbands have long since lost interest, spend the day at port on the golf course.
pete_dushenski: young romanian fitness trainer or whatever is the perfect match.
decimation: pretty much the same model as the 'luxor centre for internet businessmen'
mircea_popescu: well no. romanians don't wanna marry, arabs don't wanna fuck.
mircea_popescu: "I’d honestly thought that such derpage was dead and buried"
mircea_popescu: ahahaha WHAT!
pete_dushenski: what, i live a sheltered existence.
pete_dushenski: no reddit, little twitter.
mircea_popescu: dude... it'll be 2050, wot long in firm control, random nobody at the fringe of the world will STILL be starting webwallets / writing bitcoin hate pieces.
pete_dushenski: no one i talk to irl would dare be so derpy to my face.
pete_dushenski: so...
mircea_popescu: and it will still all be stolfi level. and they will STILL not know how fucking old the stolfi bs is.
pete_dushenski: eh, let me add my quarterly nail to the coffin wouldja ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, the fact that it's changing from "o bitcoin will never succeed" to "o we missed the boat so unfair" is quite pleasant.
pete_dushenski: myea i'm enjoying the same.
pete_dushenski: this piece marked that transition to my eye.
mircea_popescu: is Nick Spanos the figurehead for the kenna scammer or am i confused ?
pete_dushenski: i wanna say they're unrelated
pete_dushenski: spanos is, afaik, an isolated entity.
pete_dushenski: he's known merely as "mr. i know everything there is to know about bitcoin" henceforth and forever more.
mircea_popescu: no, my bad. http://trilema.com/2013/children-and-their-delusions-today-jared-kenna-and-ryan-singer/
assbot: Children and their delusions. Today, Jared Kenna and Ryan Singer pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1KHH1UQ )
mircea_popescu: it's ryan singer.
pete_dushenski: huh never heard of singer.
mircea_popescu: derps ran off with the tradehill customer funds, bought some office space.
mircea_popescu: “I feel like a martyr—a Bitcoin martyr,” he told me. “We’re bleeding out.”
mircea_popescu: lolk.
pete_dushenski: ah the "btc fell on the ground" guys, right ?
pete_dushenski: at least that's what i associate with tradehill
mircea_popescu: where's that neobee schmuck
mircea_popescu: not the danny guy, the other one, the greek who was behind it all.
pete_dushenski: the one you killed !
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski they claimed circle defrauded them, threatened to sue. never sued, disappeared.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski no no. there was this pic at some conference. the fall guy (denny idiot), the sucker (some local professor) and the actual scammer
mircea_popescu: a phtisic looking jailbird.
pete_dushenski: hm dunno
pete_dushenski: "Ex-marine Jered Kenna has to be one of the most perseverant entrepreneurs in bitcoin. After his exchange TradeHill fell apart not once but twice, he also lost bitcoin.com – the flagship domain for the digital currency." << perseverant and retarded.
pete_dushenski: like the seagull that keeps flying into the window of the skyscraper
mircea_popescu: it was never his.
pete_dushenski: wasn't it that argentinian guy's and he sold the domain to gox ?
pete_dushenski: or was that bitcoinS.com
mircea_popescu: dude impressive, that guy managed to get the pic supressed ?
ben_vulpes: hey does anyone have a link to a multisignature transaction in the main chain?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-12-2013#407076 ahh sweet two years ago.☝︎
assbot: Logged on 05-12-2013 03:49:11; snackman: LOOOOL https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=129544.msg1480792#msg1480792
pete_dushenski: just found the business card for the bitcoins.com guy, rodolfo andragnes. he claimed to have sold the domain to mt gox in 2011 for $100k, half cash, half btc.
pete_dushenski: now, he's "founding member of fundacion bitcoin argentina"
pete_dushenski: he might've given away a few too many coins...
mircea_popescu: lol looking for it i stumbled on http://trilema.com/2013/like-a-baws/
assbot: Like a baws pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1KHKRxg )
mircea_popescu: anyway, i have the pic archived.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00033737 = 2.3279 BTC [-]
jurov: http://www.coindesk.com/why-bitcoin-regulation-lags-where-its-needed-most/ so they want *african* governments to start regulating bitcoin nao???
assbot: Why Bitcoin Regulation Lags Where it's Needed Most ... ( http://bit.ly/1MiBZtb )
jurov stares incredulously
pete_dushenski: equal outcomes for all !
pete_dushenski: because reasons.
pete_dushenski: http://media.coindesk.com/2015/03/bitpesa.jpg << tho these doods look epically stoked.
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1MiC93M )
jurov: well... and papua tribes should start regulating it, too
jurov: that's remarkable pic
mircea_popescu: jurov they're not racist, they just don't like that kinda people.
mircea_popescu: when niggers do it, it's suddenly obvious how unsufferable it is.
mircea_popescu: https://i.imgur.com/sPNsgpt.jpg << there we go.
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1MiDlUU )
mircea_popescu: grigorios papageorgios.
mircea_popescu: https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/neo-bee-andreas-antonopoulos-tuur-demeester-share-views/ << and the fall guy operation lol.
assbot: Neo & Bee: Andreas Antonopoulos and Tuur Demeester share their views - CryptoCoinsNews ... ( http://bit.ly/1MiDAzf )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53950 @ 0.00032612 = 17.5942 BTC [-] {2}
pete_dushenski: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 346774 | Current Difficulty: 4.74275549506483E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 348767 | Next Difficulty In: 1993 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 5 hours, 26 minutes, and 52 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 52773794424.4 | Estimated Percent Change: 11.27243
pete_dushenski: ;;nethash
gribble: 343957129.799
Pierre_Rochard: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-03-2015#1046316 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 08-03-2015 21:08:57; scoopbot: New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/laile-ou-la-cuisse/
Pierre_Rochard: On the subject of french movies, mircea_popescu & pete_dushenski have you seen jean reno’s les visisteurs?
pete_dushenski: have not..
mircea_popescu: me either.
mircea_popescu: !up gabrielradio_
pete_dushenski: so... #bitcoinwomensday is a thing.
pete_dushenski: because if we want things that don't make sense, they'll happen.
mircea_popescu: how is it "a thing"
pete_dushenski: to the extent that twitter trends are "a thing"
pete_dushenski: ya, not a thing as much as a ripple in the ocean, as it were
Pierre_Rochard: I highly recommend it, I don’t doubt you’ll find the bourgeoisie vs aristocracy commentary amusing, and christian clavier is hysterical
mircea_popescu: added.
pete_dushenski: same here !
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asciilifeform: other than totally hermitise myself << ahahaha, works for me
asciilifeform: a guy had to have relatiuons with mechanics << i do (and my whole family). fella's from argentina, incidentally.