truffles: "inappropriate for some users"
kakobrekla: i dont see how some random dicks running around is funny
dub: this was like the first live-to-reality interview with the richest secondlifer
dub: I guess it needs context
dub: but then I guess you should have lurked moar amirite?
dub: if you don't know about everything that ever happened on the internet its not my fault
ozbot: Anshe Chung - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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kakobrekla: "Chung currently owns thousands of servers' worth of land, "
kakobrekla: this second life land, which the creators can print to infinity?
dub: no, they have to buy it off linden labs amd pay rent
dub: but yeah, LL can add as much 'land' as they like to a point
kakobrekla: ok but linden makes this out of shits and gigles
truffles: "With her first Linden dollars she was able to sponsor a boy named Geo from the Philippines through a German church organization."-- pretty cool imo
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 262 @ 0.0029016 = 0.7602 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: that should read 'she sponsored german church with a young boy from philippines'
dub: creating stuff like buildings, vehicles, furniture, genitalia in game takes actual work, she used sweatshops to produce shit and sold it/rented property
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 88 @ 0.0029016 = 0.2553 BTC [-]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 790 @ 0.00081324 = 0.6425 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MG] 1500 @ 0.000158 = 0.237 BTC [+]
gribble: Error: "xau" is not a valid command.
gribble: 1 XAU = 1239.700000000000 USD = 1.00461913294 BTC
dub: <bbrox> Look you are blinded by BitCoin as is Peter Schiff by Gold and Greenspan by the Dollar. I am saying Trading LiteCoin has Advantage a) and Advantage b). I did my due dilligence and I know
dub: what i found out. There is nothing on earth that is going to convice me otherwise, especially not
dub: <bbrox> dub, and gox by some fat american bastard
dub: nice due dilligence thar
kakobrekla: so ltc is better than btc cause france is in merrica?
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truffles: dub uve gotten me to watch this sad display of SL omg
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dub: I didn't think ne0futur worked there, he just hangs of tux' dick
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dub: Apocalyptic: must be a recent thing
Namworld: What happened to the new satoshidice?
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dub: as recently as a couple of months ago when I challenged him on his rampant gox shilling he claimed to have no attachment beyond fanboy
dub: he did have insider info from tux however
ThickAsThieves: just in case any of you can help, why is firewire service not showing in my new W7 machine?
Duffer1: have you tried newest drivers?
dub: you are the first person I've ever heard of using firewire
assbot: [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P095T] 10 @ 0.02 = 0.2 BTC [-]
Duffer1: so apple running win7 w/ fire wire issue?
nubbins`: i've got an old minidv camcorder that does firewire
ThickAsThieves: i'm worried the mobo cant support it at all or something
Duffer1: has it ever worked on that comp?
Duffer1: i'm shocked it even has a firewire plugin
Duffer1: if it's pcie it shouldn't have a problem though
Duffer1: sounds like some kind of driver issue, sorry man that's the extent of my suggestions :/
benkay: does anyone have an email for jurov`
truffles: have u tried uninstalling and reinstalling? :D
Duffer1: tat what's make/model of the unit?
Duffer1: have you tried a different pci-e slot?
ThickAsThieves: the pcie card and the sound card are two diff products
Duffer1: so the pci-e is firewire specific?
truffles: if its broken before u even got to use it, tough times ahead
Duffer1: thickasthieves scroll down to afzal taher's reply where he has you swap to legacy drivers
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Duffer1: mobo hardware fault on the first slot was actually my least likely scenario, but you gotta cover the bases anyways in pc troubleshooting
Duffer1: still might not even be a hardware fault hehe
dub: a lot of boards have shit like shared bus for the first pcie x1 and x16 slots
dub: so its one or the other, or bios switchable
dub: two at x4 or one at x16 etc
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.3401 = 1.0203 BTC [-]
dub: don't assume its faulty before reading mobo spec anyway
dub: I had trouble getting 5 pcie slots working that turned out ot be a bios switch, run the 3rd x16 slot at x4 livens up the last x1 slot
ThickAsThieves: i really should have known this already from my gpu mining days
ThickAsThieves: dub did you see my comment earlier today about my new speaker setup?
dub: should get back into it actually
dub: made nice setup in new houes for my turnies and shit, havent actually used them
dub: you linking or do I need ot read the whole log :)
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dub: got SL3 cheap from my homie at serato
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 500 @ 0.000431 = 0.2155 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00299999 = 0.15 BTC [-]
ozbot: ROCK-HARD-COCK - YouTube
dub: tat gonna be rocking srs bzns
dub: having heard his shit
Duffer1: with that rack he's got, i'm sure he didn't go budget on the monitors, i bet it sounds pretty good :P
thestringpuller: started from the bottom now the whole fuckin' team is here
truffles: dub u could at least appreciate that cock game
dub: truffles: i made the call not to watch that at work
dub: don't want teh gays in security thinking I'm down
truffles: its a game with a "hard" penis just rolling through like mario
truffles: its way past overtime hrs in the east
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dub: and every project has a unique snowflake trying to ram his shit through before brownout
dub: so dubs don't get to sleep
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 398 @ 0.00044001 = 0.1751 BTC [+]
dub: I have three weeks in wine country from the 20th
dub: off grid, no cell coverage
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.341 = 1.705 BTC [+]
truffles: i asked a friend why not take cell "just in case" lol
assbot: [HAVELOCK:AM100] 1D: 0.00314120 / 0.00326529 / 0.00337880 (637 shares, 2.07999251 BTC), 7D: 0.00102001 / 0.00305895 / 0.00508899 (30802 shares, 94.22169677 BTC), 30D: 0.00102001 / 0.00447466 / 0.00802006 (165935 shares, 742.50348228 BTC)
ozbot: Innomine x Lee Kim - Promise To Keep It - YouTube
gribble: pigeons was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 5 days, 11 hours, 29 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: <pigeons> well he was sorry i'm sure
ozbot: Bob Marley - Work [05] - YouTube
Duffer1: oh man that makes me miss my record player
thestringpuller: Didn't know there were so many Isley Brothers fans in the house.
nubbins`: every home needs a good turntable
Duffer1: i still have all my old vinyl, no record player though hehe
ozbot: Frankie Paul - Work Hard - YouTube
Vexual: dont remember playing that
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Vexual: whole mp sounds nice through a needle
ozbot: Fatlip - What's Up Fatlip [VIDEO] - YouTube
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nubbins`: i was listening to OM earlier on my turntable
nubbins`: nice music to get stoned & evolve to
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nubbins`: that and the live jesus lizard album have both been getting some heavy play
Vexual: sounds like attempted sabbath or something
Vexual: and the neo bee guys seem nice apparently
nubbins`: and with more christian iconography
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10192 @ 0.0008112 = 8.2678 BTC [+]
nubbins`: thestringpuller: never woulda guessed, hey? ;p
nubbins`: Vexual: ffw to 5:30 if you get bored
Vexual: it's nice, i might wait antil dark to give it a listen, its noon here
gribble: 1 XAU = 1240.000000000000 USD = 1.01556101556 BTC
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ozbot: BitBet - 1 BTC will surpass price of 1 Troy Oz of Gold in USD
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12800 @ 0.00081181 = 10.3912 BTC [+] {2}
Vexual: i want to see the v v video of um ah danny at this err cornerence
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 119 @ 0.00301 = 0.3582 BTC [+]
Vexual: i shoulkn't joke really, the only public speaking i ever do is when im three sheets to the wind, and i havn't been invited
Vexual: is danny the main guy or the talkie face?
Vexual: there at lease looks like the possiblity of some value in their tech infrastructure already
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Vexual: logo on the eftpos and shit
mircea_popescu: ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:fd5b35a2d2c684170319ac0b7d6e11bf98998e51958e5964a401066e
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ozbot: Business Time - Flight Of The Conchords (Lyrics) - YouTube
Vexual: i need a business that needs lots of capital so i can ipo like all the cool kids
Vexual: doesnt sound risky enough
Duffer1: offer consulting services, fill the prospectus with words like synergize, ipo
Vexual: i already do, and my costs are low
Vexual: wheres cheapest to launch? im sick of this place
Vexual: making a good satellite is harder than getting it up
nubbins`: there's a launch pad in french guyana
Vexual: a launchpad is just a concrete slab with predictable waether
nubbins`: well i think it's actually a fully-fledged spaceport
nubbins`: a few vending machines in the lobby, at least
Vexual: google still doing that low orbit free internet for plebs thing?
Vexual: paid for by the local goat butcher
Vexual: they were planning to have an array across 35deg south or something so they can get africa
Vexual: sending em up with ballons
Vexual: sounds like the soundtrack to the road to the place that wolf creek was based on
Vexual: 1000km north of woomera through the desert
Vexual: no greeting but a donkey with hooves growing through its knees, and no pies
nubbins`: the story here is that this band went to their label
nubbins`: label says "no, go fuck yourselves"
Vexual: that was the reply when i enquired about pies
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mircea_popescu: so did that stephen guy ever manage to short bitcoin ?
nubbins`: then it was eventually released on another label chopped into a half dozen tracks
nubbins`: and then 4 years later in its original form
Vexual: you're extra newbie friendly lately mp
nubbins`: ah, stephen didn't seem like he was ready to pull the trigger
Duffer1: that gave me a good laugh :P
Duffer1: have you seen your website?
nubbins`: newbs only get confused by shiny things
Vexual: do you still have the wallet of your first transaction mp? remember the date?
twizt: i was curious about something, and was wondering if you guys had any idea. are there legit bitcoin crowdfunding places? like instead of selling shares sell the actual product, like kickstart. i was looking at bitcoin ipos but most of those sites seem to go down fast and they issue shares/bonds with HYIP like returns lol
nubbins`: twizt: i think there's a "bitcoinstarter". usual caveats apply
nubbins`: nothing i'd feel comfortable sending money to
twizt: im trying to start a hot sauce company
Vexual: what do you wanna fund twista?
Duffer1: it's a multi layered barrier because you're dealing with security noobs, securities noobs, crypto currency noobs, and noob traders
twizt: ive actually put serious effort into it
twizt: nubbins`: better man
twizt: id rather sell the sauce than shares ;x
Vexual: u got the sauce all bottled up?
twizt: i did 25 sample batch..
Vexual: thats $125 dollars right there
twizt: @ a co packer in NYC
mircea_popescu: nubbins` elk's vomit. specially engineered for the canadian conoisseur.
Vexual: oooh have they been eating fairy mushrooms?
nubbins`: ah, yes. the first peoples call this majestic animal "wapiti"
twizt: nah its legit. you can whois my domain and get a lot of info about me
nubbins`: never tried the vomit. have eaten the meat
twizt: mircea_popescu: only to friends and fam so far
twizt: can't sell retail yet, not ready
Vexual: what do you need money for twista? a run of 1million?
nubbins`: twizt: you might have some success just hustling in the forums and on reddit
ozbot: Sriracha hot sauce operations can continue if it doesn’t smell, Irwindale says
twizt: yea it sucks trying to market a product no one has tried before
nubbins`: ah yeah! it was pretty touch-and-go for a while mp
mircea_popescu: twizt practically, search the forum for "mpoe-pr see here"
nubbins`: apparently that's the only factory that still uses fresh chilis
twizt: but people who tried it keep asking for more bottles and i dont have funds to go and make more ;\
twizt: like what would make u guys wanna pay for a hotsauce u never tried before lol
twizt: (market research mode)
Vexual: how old are ya twista?
nubbins`: honestly, the flavour and the packaging
Vexual: so i guess the bottles are $10 then?
nubbins`: twizt: you should get a hundred or so bottles made, and start giving them away to restaurants
Duffer1: twizt hotwings recipe would get me to try it
nubbins`: huy fong was exclusively a restaurant sauce for years
twizt: i havits about $8 for 16oz jar
nubbins`: and now you see red bottles w/ green caps everywhere
twizt: Duffer1: what do you mean?
nubbins`: 16oz, what's that in real units
twizt: its organic ingredients so i get raped in that regard
twizt: if didnt use organic it would be down to about $5 per 16oz
nubbins`: even better, hustle it to vegan restaurants
Duffer1: twizt either part of the packaging or marketing, a good looking recipe would probably move me to buy
twizt: Duffer1: you mean on the sauce itself?
Vexual: i would have thouight inorganic capsicums would be more expensive
Duffer1: ya or website, but i don't even know what kind of sauce we're talking about here
twizt: im using vinegar and perservative
twizt: and shelf life isnt long
twizt: Duffer1: can I PM you and show you my website (i dont want to put it on blast here)
nubbins`: if it's got a 30 day shelf life
nubbins`: you don't have NEARLY enough salt in there
nubbins`: hot sauce should be non-perishable
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know it's been synthetised for like a century.
snackman: why exactly is this necessary:
snackman: "Incoming Bitcoin that doesn't exactly match a quoted sum will be simply kept, reported as profits and distributed to MPEx shareholders."
nubbins`: snackman: part of using a communal deposit address
twizt: nubbins`: its more like a hot sauce dip, its heady, not water like
snackman: nubbins`: but it's kind of dangerous, make a typo and loose a couple grand
Vexual: newver trust the chemist at the farmers market
snackman: mircea_popescu: are there btc brokers?
Vexual: or acetone, im not sure what happened to your suit sir, its all organic
snackman: mircea_popescu: also, what's up with my 10btc?
mircea_popescu: lol molten sodium. that'll definitely cost more than the suit.
Vexual: premium unleaded + heat = clean
nubbins`: nothing cleans like VOCs and flame!
twizt: you guys mentioned getting a buzz on reddit, how does one do that without looking like a complete jackass?
Vexual: thats what fucked up graets flow, a trip to japan
nubbins`: twizt: you should probably start local
snackman: mircea_popescu: i see somebody got scared of the psychoanalysis ;)
nubbins`: give samples to restaurants, especially hippie ones, and give samples to local food critics too
nubbins`: don't push it on em like a mope, just say hey, i've got this great organic sauce, try it out and let me know what you think
Vexual: catch the indian and thai and fusion cheps about quarter to 5
snackman: mircea_popescu: what's up with those legs?
Vexual: you know they have portable computers now right?
nubbins`: they look like kim kardashian's
nubbins`: i visited japan once, very costly
Vexual: my old master did it on the cheap in 62, sleeping bag on the railway platform
Vexual: searching for jujo dojos
snackman: mircea_popescu: serious and unrealted q, mircea_popescu, what's up with the legs?
twizt: whats mpoe-pr mircea_popescu ?
mircea_popescu: well exactly what it says on the tin, the pr for mpoe.
nubbins`: korean women especially hate japanese
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twizt: i dont even kno what that is, unfortunately
mircea_popescu: twizt listen, bitcoin doesn't work in the way you intend to use it, "i have an idea"
mircea_popescu: nobody cares about your idea, nor does it at all matter.
mircea_popescu: sink the time to learn about bitcoin, which means like a year.
snackman: twizt: i would bang the blockchain out of that satochick, if you know what i mean
snackman: mircea_popescu: i've been trying to find pictures of mpoe-pr, but failed. could you help a brotha out?
nubbins`: who needs pictures when you have those fiery words?
nubbins`: i bet she fights when she's drunk
Vexual: i doubt she dets drunk
Vexual: the faireer sex has a different venacular when delicacies are involved
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: what's a good drunk set you back in romania?
twizt: well its more like a product im trying to market that no one has tried, than an idea. lol
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mircea_popescu: nubbins` i just bought a gallon of tzuika, it's ~110 proof, pure plum juice.
snackman: i DO NOT want to have sexual relationships with that woman
nubbins`: so essentially you can kill yourself for $10
nubbins`: i dunno, if i drank 500ml of pure ethanol i'd be in sad shape
nubbins`: either way, that's pretty cheap
mircea_popescu: (i did once drink a liter of the stuff in one sitting. walked out)
nubbins`: there's minimum-price legislation here for booze
mircea_popescu: this is quite illegal, bought it from the guy that made it.
nubbins`: apples are more common for that type of thing here
Vexual: can you get good tobacco there?
nubbins`: i enjoy drinking large amounts of liquid, so i stick to beer
mircea_popescu: twizt that's fine and all, but you gotta understand, fmcg is a business, the distribution and marketing part is what counts.
mircea_popescu: it never comes down to "who can make the better sauce". it's a business.
nubbins`: i'll likely never taste my favourite sauce
nubbins`: but im sure they both existed at some point
Vexual: u just got a b.marketing twista
nubbins`: i had some homemade lemon gin a couple weeks ago
twizt: yea thats my problem.. gotta give away a few grand of merch to get a following
nubbins`: twizt: what size town/city do you live in?
twizt: lol my marketing plan in a nutshell
twizt: nubbins`: about 130k
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nubbins`: honestly, it depends on how many years of your life you plan on spending at this
twizt: nubbins`: my plan is to make another large batch (unemployed atm) and go after grocery store chains
snackman: this chick should do PR for you
nubbins`: suppose a grocery wants 1000 units a month, can you do that?
mircea_popescu: twizt chains will definitely not shelf you. go after restaurants as someone suggested.
nubbins`: well, grocery chains here often have a small local section
twizt: nah they will, i just need to work with a food scientist for shelf life expansion
snackman: no, mp is totall not a scammer
twizt: and they want the organic cert (farm to table crap)
mircea_popescu: so they will except they won't. listen, you gotta be "in" to get there.
nubbins`: read "EskimoBob", stopped reading
twizt: mircea_popescu: actually ez to get into stores, if you have right packaging, etc.
Vexual: chefs hand at the back door at the start of the night
twizt: and i havent even invested in packaging
dexX7: i'd love to see ROTA 2
nubbins`: snackman: you forgot your article
snackman: nubbins`: i didn't sue him *YET*
snackman: apparently mircea_popescu likes the trans*gender crowd
nubbins`: snackman: you forgot your article before "court"
gribble: Error: "bc,diff" is not a valid command.
snackman: nubbins`: what the actual fuck are you blabbering
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nubbins`: snackman: you didn't use an article before the noun
nubbins`: well, no, in that case, the definite article is implied
snackman: pathetic gypsy scum tryina correct my ingrish wtf?
snackman: nubbins`: DUDE are you serious?
nubbins`: the link you posted says he lost in *a* court
snackman: nubbins`: because this is seriously basic english
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Vexual: ive got some in the boat in a vegemite jar i made, 10 years old, lid hasnt poped yet
mike_c: nubbins speaks canadien
Vexual: wouldnt eat it unless scurvy tho
nubbins`: although i do drop the occasional 'u'
Vexual: science probability model is broken, everyone knows that
mircea_popescu: it's not going to change as long as the diff isn't changing
Vexual: want an android app to wake you up TAT?
unbalanced: Time zones and really really bad Kitco charts make it a little hard to tell
Vexual: im close to the dateline, so im not allowed to bet
unbalanced: snackman there might still be time you should totally go for it
snackman: unbalanced: dudeee i'm so getting in
snackman: unbalanced: ok i'm gonna bet no here because the gold value is resistance
snackman: i'm into technical analysis now
Vexual: want me to put it on? i can do it yesterday
unbalanced: Picking up pennies in front of a steamroller
Vexual: but it will take me about 3 weeks to get to fiji, you'll have to pay expoenses
unbalanced: snackman, just in case you're not joking, I was: It. Already. Happened.
ozbot: Snoop Doggy Dogg - Gin & Juice. With Lyrics - YouTube
snackman: THE DATE IS CLEARLY NOVEMBER 2014 AND NOW 2013
ThickAsThieves: The Chronic by Dr. Dre is seriously overrated. There, I said it.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34001001 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.12500001 BTC [-]
ozbot: BitBet - US Federal Minimum Wage will be raised above $7.25 by the end of 2013
nubbins`: ah, what's the us federal minimum wage right now?
snackman: HAHAHAHA MIRCEA HAS NO SECONDARY EDUCATION?
snackman: this is getting more and more hilarious by the second
ThickAsThieves: I have no secondary education, well, none that I paid for.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 63 @ 0.00320045 = 0.2016 BTC [-] {4}
nubbins`: don't confuse education with intelligence
Vexual: theyre almost inversly proportional by accepted definitions
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.02232 = 0.1116 BTC [-]
ozbot: BitBet - US Federal Minimum Wage will be raised above $7.25 by the end of 2013
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 64 @ 0.0030165 = 0.1931 BTC [+]
unbalanced: I don't see it happening before New Year's Eve (min wage)
nubbins`: a rise in min wage is annoying for big companies, dangerous for small companies
nubbins`: imagine if your biggest expense went up by 39%!
ThickAsThieves: thats the only thing shitty about Colorado, the weather can kill you in so many ways
Vexual: i havent seen <+18c for a year
mircea_popescu: nubbins` people who predominantly pay minimum wage mostly use undocumented illegals anyway
Vexual: so if you fall asleep coming home fromt the pub u die?
ThickAsThieves: and small businesses that only pay minimum wage go out of business eventually anywya
unbalanced: Raising the min wage hurts the least skilled workers... fewer opportunities to work if employers are banned from paying what they're worth.
nubbins`: well, i mean, it's 7.25 now, suppose you're paying everyone 9.25
Vexual: show us something trustless bitcoiner
nubbins`: and the min wage goes up to 10.10
nubbins`: so you either give them a raise to min wage and be an asshole, or raise them to, say, 12.10
Vexual: id be getting a license and pumping the photo active radiation if i was in america
mircea_popescu: nubbins` you're closing shop anyway, becauyse you can't afford obamacare.
unbalanced: If washing the floors say isn't worth paying someone $10/hr to do, then people won't get hired to do that. (Or far fewer people will as the floors will get washed less often.)
nubbins`: just making the point that a raise in minimum wage generally means a raise in non-minimum wage
nubbins`: so even if you're not one of these soon-to-be-out-of-business places paying min wage
nubbins`: you're taking the same hit in the pocketbook
Vexual: i jest mp, in a world of masturbators, you innovated
unbalanced: And it reduces the employement opportunities for the least-skilled workers, the ones it's supposed to help.
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: at 7.25/hr, i'm not sure how anybody's affording anything
unbalanced: where "washing the floors" = "insert some min wage job here"
Vexual: so you can buy a house in detroit for about a months labour on minimum wage?
Vexual: that place will quickly learn to innovate again
unbalanced: nubbins should you save BTC for the 1B difficulty bet though?
ThickAsThieves: after every unpaid vendor to the city folds and gangs up with Mel Gibson
nubbins`: unbalanced: me personally, or me in general?
nubbins`: sorry, we don't have the words in english ;(
ozbot: my model A roadster hot rod - YouTube
nubbins`: although you hear some people say "ye" for the plural of you
ThickAsThieves: youtube links are like the most unappealing links to me
Vexual: they just need someone who can read the design criteria and provide rice
unbalanced: I mean several bets end around the end ot the month
unbalanced: The diff one pays better than the others
nubbins`: log.bitcoin-assets.com links for me
Vexual: sorry TAT, i have to authenticate myself somehow
unbalanced: If you're looking at where to put new bets
Vexual: get a case of whisky and relex for a few weeks
Vexual: buy some records and a sweet bag of hooter
unbalanced: ThickAsThieves, quoting pancakke's smug Costanza avatar: Do you even mine?
unbalanced: These nailbiters are exciting to watch.
mircea_popescu: he doesn;'t, which is why he's on no. the miners are on yes.
unbalanced: I know, I just wanted to quote that quote, I laugh every time I see it.
Vexual: i think graet and yuko are hocked to the nines, thats why diff stay same
Vexual: i was on the same thought track
ThickAsThieves: so no one has ever even asked ghash.io or bitfury if they are connected?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 25 @ 0.02498792 = 0.6247 BTC [+] {3}
Duffer1: i was under the impression they were some kind of private pool. labcoin used them
dexX7:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=318010.0 "CEX.IO works with a private mining pool GHash.IO. It supplies the commodity exchange with GHS from authorised partners, who secure a constant maintenance of GHS. GHash.IO uses the PPLNS payout system, where rewards are distributed among shares in a window, starting with the last share submitted and going backwards up to some number N of shares."
ozbot: ***CEX.IO Cloud mining official page***
Vexual: its more likely that they are real hashes
Vexual: even the price is outrageous
dexX7: i read it as "we at cex.io sell the hashrate from ghash.io"
Vexual: i forget, but i think the guy isnt right in there
Vexual: if its real its a cool sysytem, but you're right, its far from proven
dexX7: cex and ghash share the same logins
Vexual: he can make the market in any case
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10800 @ 0.00010007 = 1.0808 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34001 BTC [-]
ozbot: Urban Dictionary: reputable
ozbot: Urban Dictionary: gypsy
Vexual: so they took friedcats catchcry of deployment vectors, and did it better
ozbot: Urban Dictionary: article
ozbot: Bitcoin Address 1CjPR7Z5ZSyWk6WtXvSFgkptmpoi4UM9BC
dexX7: it's tagged as ghash
dexX7: but they are responsible for about 25 % of mined blocks
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10900 @ 0.00009255 = 1.0088 BTC [-] {9}
Vexual: they can provide the hashes but they neednt
dexX7: i see no flaw. why are you asking in the first place?
ThickAsThieves: cuz i dont follow bitfury, and thus assumed cex.io was a scam when first released
Vexual: they keep it on the dlo for sure
Vexual: but fuck if they not smahing blocks
Vexual: people talk about intel and whatnot getting into minging
snackman: ThickAsThieves: you guys need to stop projecting
snackman: just because you are scammers, doesn't mean everybody else is trying to scam as well
Vexual: i don't see it happening
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4000 @ 0.00008155 = 0.3262 BTC [-] {15}
Vexual: but im thinking friedcats feb chips might just own shit
Vexual: that cat got a taste of the top
Vexual: if theyre amd good, everyone willl buy them
ThickAsThieves: i think mining going more private and centralized will already be happening by then
Vexual: no, cat will have to come with real prices
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 32 @ 0.00320001 = 0.1024 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: i mean where the nethash will start violently increasing and we wont even have a clue who it is
Vexual: yeah, i could have a custom chip ouit and you wouldnt know
Vexual: but wouldnt i be seeling them for more than they can ever possibly make?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1890 @ 0.00007407 = 0.14 BTC [-] {7}
Vexual: you affiliated with nay particular pool tat?
Vexual: u thinkl tthat will be a thing?
Vexual: minings always gonna be a thing, even when people forget about the exchange arte
dexX7: forget about the exchange rate?
gribble: mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 22 minutes and 23 seconds ago: <mircea_popescu> anyway, that's all for me. take it ezzy all.
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1228.5, Best ask: 1237.985, Bid-ask spread: 9.48500, Last trade: 1228.01001, 24 hour volume: 17879.86454160, 24 hour low: 1131.72718, 24 hour high: 1240.0, 24 hour vwap: 1206.44566
gribble: 1 XAU = 1240.700000000000 USD = 1.002180937 BTC
bloctoc: are there any places to buy options besides mpex? mpex looks empty today
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 34 @ 0.0032 = 0.1088 BTC [-] {4}
bloctoc: would you refer anyone to mpex?
ThickAsThieves: and a disclaimer about MP being no joke when it comes to rules
Vexual: i hate it when busniess men stick to the contract
bloctoc: do you happen to know where the offers went today? I was trying to get some prices together for a model, and everything's alls gone
unbalanced: When bitcoincharts goes down the quotes can't be calculated.
unbalanced: (Is that the source still or am I out of date?)
bloctoc: cool, I'll go grab a calculator.
unbalanced: But if we can see that page I'd think the bot would be quoting so maybe some other sources are involved too these days. I've been out of touch between chart tops.
unbalanced: *Part Tops = what drunk people call Pop Tarts
ozbot: Beastie Boys - Don't Play no Game That I Can't Win - YouTube
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.3468 = 1.0404 BTC [+] {3}
nubbins`: music links, i'll occasionally click
ozbot: Battles | Wall Street | A Take Away Show - YouTube
Vexual: wait i thought it was the metro
nubbins`: who knows? the something anyway
Vexual: i was about to go upstairs and buy some catacombs porn
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 133 @ 0.0029101 = 0.387 BTC [-] {4}
ozbot: Nelly - E.I. - Lyrics - YouTube
KRS|gotyawallet: just got done blasting it..back on my grind tonight..aint stoppin til the morning
nubbins`: here's something else you can't do
ozbot: The Jesus Lizard - Club - YouTube
nubbins`: ^ been listening to this on vinyl all week
nubbins`: feels like your ears are being tickled
nubbins`: they put a lot more effort into mastering for vinyl
Vexual: my record player cost $12, when i upgrade, im sitting on a gold mine
nubbins`: jesus lizard had a bunch of records produced by steve albini
nubbins`: you can bet they were mastered best for vinyl ;)
KRS|gotyawallet: this kind of reminds me of early the breeders or something
Vexual: anyone tried makerbot records yet?
nubbins`: krs, check out the albums "goat" and "down" by these guys if you like it so far
Vexual: press print and get industrial noise
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34799999 BTC [+]
Vexual: well if you printed a record with a makerbot, all the tracks would be 2mm apart
KRS|gotyawallet: they seem like a group that would open for soundgarden.. The group Soundgarden is like one of my all time fav's..ever listen to them?
nubbins`: listened to soundgarden a lot in my younger years
nubbins`: saw em a couple of years ago in chicago
KRS|gotyawallet: soundgarden reminds me of me in my 20's street racing my 5.0 mustang with nitrous and shit..amazing i came out of that period alive.
KRS|gotyawallet: some of my friends didnt and some are still dealing with their acid trips
ozbot: Thin Lizzy-Whiskey in the jar - YouTube
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2004 @ 0.000075 = 0.1503 BTC [+] {2}
ozbot: Oasis - Some Might Say - Official Video - YouTube
KRS|gotyawallet: I love it, play Eric Clapton - Cocaine on you tube.. an ad displays a link that reads "Buy Cocaine on iTunes"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.0030129 = 0.9039 BTC [+] {3}
Vexual: youll get an ad for an ipod
ozbot: Ram Jam - Black Betty 1977 - YouTube
Vexual: wait prog rock is coming up
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.34799994 = 2.784 BTC [-] {3}
Vexual: heres a clip for those that prefer skaters givin lip than kittens
ozbot: Ollie the Cat's Super Bowl 46 Prediction (Cat predicts Superbowl 2012) - YouTube
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.14999999 BTC [+]
ozbot: Snoop Dogg - 03 Crazy - Blue Carpet Treatment - YouTube
KRS|gotyawallet: i listen to this sometimes when im deep in thought or trading
ozbot: Mams - You Can Fly - YouTube
ozbot: LEE SCRATCH PERRY e MAD PROFESSOR Mystic Warrior + Mystic Warrior Dub 1989 - YouTube
KRS|gotyawallet: badass lambo but anyone who knows anything about engines knows you dont rev it as soon as it starts, gotta let oil get up above the heads and what not
Vexual: never se em run, theyre like comets
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7850 @ 0.00080462 = 6.3163 BTC [-]
Vexual: mix it in dancehall people
ozbot: Classic VTEC Mini Cooper Beats Camero SS - YouTube
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 22 @ 0.14074795 = 3.0965 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.13551 = 0.542 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1495 @ 0.00286784 = 4.2874 BTC [-] {9}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 600 @ 0.00270986 = 1.6259 BTC [-] {11}
ozbot: Buju banton murderer - YouTube
Vexual: are google ahead of thge curve or average?
Vexual: how do you answer more questions at once with less ears?
Vexual: i chain is just one stream of data
Vexual: 5 chains is dna*human conciousness
Vexual: well i consider that peer reviewd
Vexual: id like to add the ga*pig bill
Vexual: hmm, on seconf thought
Vexual: theres not much evidence of any of that bullshit
Vexual: ill just copy these photoshop macros into spss..
KRS|gotyawallet: having been living in the framework that is presented to us and then understanding some things to achieve a higher level of conciousness and understanding
KRS|gotyawallet: a lot of drugs can get you there if intelligence doesnt..in my case it was good strong weed...others have used acid
Vexual: but have you ever SEEN a comet?
KRS|gotyawallet: whats that got to do with what i was talking about? also- some say comets seeded the universe with life
Vexual: yes well THAT one was in the newspaper, but..
KRS|gotyawallet: i saw a satellite burn up in our atmosphere the other night it was amazing
Vexual: when you see one unexpectedly you use caps
Vexual: when a big space rock hits the air, thats the shit
KRS|gotyawallet: fo sho...love that one that "hit" russia..although it didnt hit ground
Vexual: once a year touchdown? thats an asteroid belt babby!
KRS|gotyawallet: my bad it wasnt a satellite i saw, it was the space-x rocket taking off
Vexual: watchign satellites if fun, but its the organic space shit you really wanna see
KRS|gotyawallet: yeah..its fun on a clear night to see how fast them satellites are going
ozbot: Tasmin Archer - Sleeping Satellite (Single Version 1992) - YouTube
Vexual: now if you had a radr array in orbit that could see a long way in 360, thatd pay
Vexual: ir 2pir/infinity cubed
Vexual: a perfect sine wave on every plane.
Vexual: ice nad rock spin differently
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18068 @ 0.00080296 = 14.5079 BTC [-] {2}
Vexual: good driver good sensor, 1au out
Vexual: youd need a computer like prism to record all the inputs
Vexual: yeah it pretty much boils down to looking for the reflection from the sun
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7550 @ 0.00080731 = 6.0952 BTC [+]
Vexual: nope i just sell trust companies
Vexual: which are really just a priavte key with 1mbtc
Vexual: i did an ipo for a phone bookj and a computer and a maserati
KRS|gotyawallet: haha thats awesome..a friend of mine used to trade securities and told me some good stories..a lot of them do coke
KRS|gotyawallet: i was mentioned on the management team for a $5BB ipo for submarine fiber optic cable..but it floundered.
Vexual: lol should had nemo on the case
Vexual: theres money in submarine cable to be sure
KRS|gotyawallet: as an engineer i spec'd out a lot of the equipment and direcly showed them how we could increase density for increased capacity and a better financial forecast
KRS|gotyawallet: no actually they spec'd out more expensive shit and i showed them the lucent models that increases wavelength density by using better multiplexors that were cheaper
KRS|gotyawallet: and then came the broadband piece that added another hundred million or so in certain markets
KRS|gotyawallet: i still "lived the life" so to speak with many of the execs
KRS|gotyawallet: "We're trying to get to 2.5 terabits or even higher [per cable],"
Vexual: i would have siad you were puffing muffins
Vexual: solder the yellow wire to pin 3 for me
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 345 @ 0.002914 = 1.0053 BTC [-]
Vexual: upper management for you
Vexual: if off to look for comets
KRS|gotyawallet: eh- how bad is it if financial institutions in China are being banned for dealing in bitcoin
KRS|gotyawallet: China PBOC Bans Financial Companies From Bitcoin Transactions
ozbot: China's PBOC: Bitcoin isn't currency with real meaning
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9797 @ 0.00080747 = 7.9108 BTC [+] {2}
dexX7: oh, it's gone from bloomberg.com
dexX7: there was a note on the top
Duffer1: paywall meaning i couldn't access the article you linked :P
Namworld: No, I mean there's no notice of any ban anywhere
KRS|gotyawallet: front page of bloomberg had a note that said "Breaking News: China bans financial institutions from dealing in bitcoin"
dexX7: what exactly means "pdoc bans financial institutions from bitcoin transactions"?
chetty: PBOC:Public free to participate but they bear risks
KRS|gotyawallet: sounds like they dont want their financial institutions failing because of it
Duffer1: such as not having sex with mandatory legal tender currency property
dexX7: cya @ single digits :(
ozbot: China central bank warns banks against use of bitcoin
dexX7: what is unclear to me: do they suggest not to use bitcoin or do they prohibit it?
Duffer1: "At this stage, the financial institutions and payment institutions are not allowed to Bitcoin price for the product or service, may not be sold or traded as a central counterparty bitcoin"
Duffer1: hard to decipher that sentence
dexX7: the whole thing is hard to decipher for me :D
dexX7: is could mean "our banks are not allowed to price products in bitcoin"
dexX7: or "every company"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 73 @ 0.0030025 = 0.2192 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34101001 BTC [-]
Namworld: "such as not having sex with mandatory legal tender currency property"
Namworld: Having sex with non-legal tender is dangerous. You could catch non-patriotism and other very nasty un-national diseases. Support the nation!
Namworld: "However, Bitcoin transaction as a commodity trading behavior on the Internet, ordinary people have the freedom to participate in the premise own risk."
Namworld: Chinese people are free to store value into Bitcoin it seems to say, at their own risk.
Namworld: Needs better translation than google...
Duffer1: right but it always appears to say that businesses are warned against accepting it
KRS-: yeah they can jerk off with it without fiat
dexX7: well btcchina is crashing
KRS-: Cheap Chinese coin get it while its hot!
gribble: There are currently 3452.1426 bitcoins demanded at or over 1000.0 USD, worth 3555744.46885 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.1959 seconds
KRS-: christ a lot of people are gonna buy high
gribble: MtGox lag is 1129.882129 seconds. During this time, light travels 2.26427113573 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Ceres (in the main asteroid belt) (2.77 AU).
Namworld: Oh, must be why gox is still so high
dexX7: not sure.. last price i have is 6002 cny
dexX7: but seems like the ticker is dead
dexX7: bitcoinwisdom and bitcoinity
dexX7: but i think you are right
dexX7: ¥4,521.13 - ¥7,050.00 价格范围
Duffer1: is there a clarkmoody's for btcchina?
ozbot: BTCChina BTC/CNY Charts - BitcoinWisdom
dexX7: but there is no new data..
Duffer1: oh nice i didn't realize btcw offered that
KRS-: anyone have experience with this?? this could take a while? or should I ready my positions now?
Duffer1: looks like it's already rallying on btcchina, back up to 5900
dexX7: <cdg> LTC/CNY went from 279 to 30
gribble: Error: Problem retrieving gox lag. Try again later.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 197 @ 0.0030025 = 0.5915 BTC [+]
gribble: There are currently 0.06 bitcoins demanded at or over 1065.0 USD, worth 64.3540146 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0697 seconds
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 135 @ 0.0030159 = 0.4071 BTC [+]
gribble: Current Blocks: 273170 | Current Difficulty: 7.074082830514966E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 274175 | Next Difficulty In: 1005 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 3 hours, 4 minutes, and 23 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 868366812.109 | Estimated Percent Change: 22.75327
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 53 @ 0.33339714 = 17.67 BTC [-] {15}
jurov`: KRS|gotyawallet: wait for decent translation first
gribble: MtGox lag is 20464018.5412 seconds. During this time, light travels 41009.6640301 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to heliopause (out of the solar system!) (100 AU).
dexX7: oh wait, it's the same text, sorry
ozbot: furfighter comments on First OFFICIAL document from Chinese government (People's Back of China) abou
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2332 @ 0.00080662 = 1.881 BTC [-]
KRS|gotyawallet: if i do really well off this I'm going to go get FUCKED UP at the strip club. Bet that.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 38 @ 0.00301404 = 0.1145 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19850 @ 0.00080683 = 16.0156 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.14959999 = 0.5984 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.14999999 = 0.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.14999999 = 0.3 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.14999999 = 0.3 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8080 @ 0.00080283 = 6.4869 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 58 @ 0.00301598 = 0.1749 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 35 @ 0.00324999 = 0.1137 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: exactly in the sense the hash exchange wasn't run by pirate.
mircea_popescu: and for that matter, anyone can send hashing to ghash, it being a pool.
mircea_popescu: that you send some hashing their way means exactly nothing in any sense.
mircea_popescu: bloctoc the bot only quotes when it can get a datafeed. if it can't it doesn't quote, and its previous quotes expire
mircea_popescu: usd 24h vwap 1023.03 7day vwap 1023.74. seems we're stabilizing.
thestringpuller: usd 24h vwap 1023.03 7day vwap 1023.74. << possibly a good time to underwrite options?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves actually, the legislative strategy of the chinese governments ever since the days of confucius was,
mircea_popescu: make strong worded, vaguie proclamations. this will encourage they who do things they think are wrong to desist,
mircea_popescu: without forcing the bureaucracy to actually explain what is wrong and how to identify it.
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00079975 / 0.00080781 / 0.00081785 (177732 shares, 143.57 BTC), 7D: 0.00078278 / 0.00080056 / 0.0008476 (1566139 shares, 1,253.80 BTC), 30D: 0.0007725 / 0.0008174 / 0.00088996 (5865320 shares, 4,794.36 BTC)
ThickAsThieves: so I read this as banks and the general financial market cant play bitcoin, but everyone else can, including gox
mircea_popescu: so it's really more like, if you make a loss trading bitcoin we'll shoot you. if you make a gain we'll maybe promote you, we'll see about that, don't bet on it.
mircea_popescu: anyway, who knows. i don't trust my grasp of the chinese intricacies much.
mircea_popescu: unlike the us, these people have had over three thousand years to complicate things.
mircea_popescu: no i actually have people that speak the language peering at it for me.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 39 @ 0.00324999 = 0.1267 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: i dont understand what has even changed with this announcment
mircea_popescu: well, it specifies chinese banks are not to use bitcoin as a currency, as the chief point.
mircea_popescu: which you know, kinda matches rthe fincen earlier report. bitcoin is, all the pretense of interested parties to the contrary, not a currency,
mircea_popescu: anyway, some people were contemplating vehicles such as funds
mircea_popescu: the chinese do have a serious problem, in the following sense : it's a highly competitive society, much more so than the us was in the 50s. people are very performance driven.
mircea_popescu: the economic situation is dire, the finances are in a mess. everyone is earnestly looking for ways to conserve capital values
mircea_popescu: had this pronouncement not been made, we could have ended up with a rush from chinese provincial authorities buying bitcoins and erecting miner farms
mircea_popescu: so if anything it's good, in that it balances out the govt battle, because the us (all its pretense to the contrary) could not have kept up.
mircea_popescu: in this sense it subtly strengthens bitcoin, because it's current value and recent explosion are both due to the little secret made public also on trilema, ie govts involved.
mircea_popescu: more like, "the chinese central authorities are not exactly asleep, and picked the right course".
mircea_popescu: anyway, one point that is perhaps not directly obvious to foreigners is that china contains about 10mn people who have the authority to spend various amounts of public funds.
mircea_popescu: it's a strange mix between a command economy and a market economy, and managing it looks more like herding 10mn cats.
mircea_popescu: this is what they did so far. the problem is there's a finite bulk of treats, and they're trying to soft land it atm
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.3449 = 0.6898 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: the westerners love bubbles, and they could EASILY avoid them
thestringpuller: don't you think the chinese would have learned after building the first ghost city that it doesn't work though?
thestringpuller: so couldn't they easily avoid the real estate bubble they are creating?
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1044.00001, Best ask: 1046.9999, Bid-ask spread: 2.99989, Last trade: 1049.4, 24 hour volume: 47832.40001050, 24 hour low: 870.001, 24 hour high: 1240.0, 24 hour vwap: 1082.84601
mircea_popescu: i doubt they went "o hey, know what'd be cool ? if we built a ghost city!"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14150 @ 0.0007965 = 11.2705 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ESPECIALLY seeing all the intervening experts in their own head in the past 13 months opining on the topic as if they knew better.
ThickAsThieves: my mom got this email from a large US Movie Theater corp: "To our AMC Stubs members,
ThickAsThieves: AMC Entertainment Holdings, Inc., the parent company for AMC Theatres, is going public. We are reserving a number of shares in our initial public stock offering (IPO) for you, our most loyal customers, to reserve on a first-come, first-serve basis. The price per share will be determined by negotiations between us and the underwriters of the IPO, but it will be the same price per share
ThickAsThieves: We will also give you the same 24-hour head start our employees will receive, in order to ensure you have the earliest opportunity to reserve shares at the offering price. While many companies depend on their customers' support every day, those customers don't always get the chance to own a piece of the action at the same price as Wall Street investors. We're offering this exclusive
ThickAsThieves: employee benefit to our AMC Stubs members to express our sincere gratitude for your loyalty.
ThickAsThieves: If this interests you, please click here to learn more.
ThickAsThieves: Please note that to execute this idea, we have opted to use the LOYAL3 Social IPO platform, an innovative new way to bring IPOs to market, where you can buy from $100 to $2,500 of our stock, and sell stock, with no fees. "
Duffer1: i can't help but feel it's a pr stunt to drum up value to major investors
Duffer1: look even the proles get a piece, give us attention
ThickAsThieves: of course the people they are asking arent even the target audience for their stock...
Duffer1: i guess i shouldn't knock it until the amount of shares to be made available in this way is known, i'd be shocked if it was more than 2% of the company
ThickAsThieves: i'd be shocked if their Stubs holders and employees could afford 2%
ThickAsThieves: this China release explicitly explains that bitcoin is not money, but also explicitly states that bitcoin exchanges must use anti-"money" laundering measures
mircea_popescu: i end up having stuffed turkey for breakfast with a few slices of camembert
ThickAsThieves: while i dont eat cheese anymore, i always preferred the very sharp, hard stuff
mircea_popescu: this was young, but it had possibly the finest velvet micelium i've yet seen.
mircea_popescu: why not eat cheese anyway ? it's what made us white folk smart enough to rule all the other races.
mircea_popescu: but life w/o camembert is scarcely life. if i offered you the deal of 200 year lifespans as long as you lived in a hamster ball weould you live in a hamster ball ?
ThickAsThieves: i have no idea if my brain could handle that lifestyle
ThickAsThieves: while i require minimal social interaction, i know humans are social creatures
mircea_popescu: so you can wave at them through your transparent enclosure
ThickAsThieves: is your point that cows live longer cuz we like their cheese?
mircea_popescu: my point is that generally speaking restrictive diets are unhealthy. i fail to see any diference between "i shall only eat mcchicken nuggets" and "i shall only eat asparagus".
mircea_popescu: now, not feeling like some cheese is one thing, not feeling like cheese for two decades running is another, but not eating cheese because baby jesus disaproves ?
ThickAsThieves: its more like how you dont wanna put a warning on bitbet
ThickAsThieves: maybe over time the world is more like the one i idealize
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.003014 = 0.1507 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: i can even appreciate eating said cow when its time if thats what you wanrt
jamespeerless: what kind of warning do you not want to put on bitnet? about usa laws?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 3 @ 0.1685 = 0.5055 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: i disagreed with your not warning people right til you pointed out that it was good training
mircea_popescu: people don't read page 2 so let's fuck up the flow of page 1 by smashing in there a bad summary of page 2
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i;m more stating it plain for the benefit of the lurker than anything
jamespeerless: i guess you could maybe add a small warning on the receiving address page when they are about to send money only if there's less than X hours until close
ThickAsThieves: being the pied piper of penny bitcoin shares has taught me much in this regard
mircea_popescu: here's a guy that was fucking a bunch of teenage chicks
ThickAsThieves: i get these emails like "I had shares on BTCT, now what" still
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 9 @ 0.02240001 = 0.2016 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: "Mexican cobalt-60 thieves will soon die of radiation exposure, say officials"
kleeck_: On a long enough timeline, we all die.
ThickAsThieves: Microsoft labels US government a ‘persistent threat' in plan to cut off NSA spying
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i dunno, i imagine it must have been in some sort of container
pankkake: hmm… I hope it's a temporary problem with OVH
ThickAsThieves: The abandoned cobalt-60 was found removed from its casing about 25 miles from where it was stolen
pankkake: from my other IP I can access it
ThickAsThieves: it's now thought that the two men didn't know what was inside the truck, which was en route to a local storage facility, and only unsealed the material out of curiosity.
gribble: Current Blocks: 273196 | Current Difficulty: 7.074082830514966E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 274175 | Next Difficulty In: 979 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 20 hours, 41 minutes, and 40 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 866930566.7 | Estimated Percent Change: 22.55024
mircea_popescu: anyway, the secret is just how tolerant of radiation the human body is.
mircea_popescu: in that case, out of hundreds of people exposed four died
ThickAsThieves: There he spread some of it on the cement floor. His six-year-old daughter, Leide das Neves Ferreira, later ate a sandwich while sitting on the floor. She was also fascinated by the blue glow of the powder, and applying it to her body, showed it off to her mother. Dust from the powder fell on the sandwich she was consuming; she eventually absorbed 1.0 GBq, total dose 6.0 Gy, which is
ThickAsThieves: roughly equal to 13 Sv, more than the fatal dose even with treatment.
deadweasel: my server is funny today, so I'm on webchat, trying to get it back up
deadweasel: hosed my networking, is dumb for a remote server
ThickAsThieves: "Seventh Company Ltd. evaluation has been made based on previous first and second rounds of investments by Havelock Investments Canadian Bitcoin based Fund Exchange during due diligence process and it is indeed a post-money valuation (not pre-money valuation!). But of course evaluation took into consideration total capital invested in the previous rounds by Angel investors and VC, as
ThickAsThieves: this in response to me asking for explanation of valuation
mircea_popescu: whoever wrote that has significant experience as online tech support and no experience as a finance anything.
ThickAsThieves: please give me millions of $ so I can be worth millions of $
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16600 @ 0.00078114 = 12.9669 BTC [-]
Apocalyptic: ThickAsThieves, did topace himself wrote that ?
ThickAsThieves: and that james isnt intimitaly involved other than as dev team for HL
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.1499 = 0.2998 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: but even that document says it can change anything it says at anytime
mircea_popescu: people will eventually figure out the importance of being able to talk to the actual guy running the show and making the calls.
mircea_popescu: there's a reason mpex is mpex whereas all the labcoins out there consist of people talking tough but then upon on examination peeling away like onion skins
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.14995 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: REP. BOB GOODLATTE (R-VA): Professor Turley, the constitution, the system of separated powers is not simply about stopping one branch of government from usurping another. It's about protecting the liberty of Americans from the dangers of concentrated government power. How does the president's unilateral modification of act of Congress affect both the balance of power between the political branches and the liberty inter
mircea_popescu: JONATHAN TURLEY: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The danger is quite severe. The problem with what the president is doing is that he's not simply posing a danger to the constitutional system. He's becoming the very danger the Constitution was designed to avoid. That is the concentration of power in every single branch.
davout: mircea_popescu: haha i will, you should try yesterdays sushi wrapped in the morning crepes, it does work too
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves kinda circlejerking each other, obviously, but the stuff they have to say...
mircea_popescu: Few studies have examined a direct causative effect between smoking marijuana and gynecomastia. A report in 1972 made the initial connection between cannabis and gynecomastia.
mircea_popescu: so can i have an m to the a to the n to the booooo-oooobs
topace: [08:53:31] <Apocalyptic> ThickAsThieves, did topace himself wrote that ?
topace: ThickAsThieves is correct, i have nothing to do with underwriting new listings any more
topace: and i questioned the valuation as well
mircea_popescu: topace get a signed statement to that effect, you never know when you need one.
topace: mircea_popescu: its all in the contracts we signed already
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16858 @ 0.00078889 = 13.2991 BTC [+]
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1090.0, Best ask: 1099.0, Bid-ask spread: 9.00000, Last trade: 1099.0, 24 hour volume: 53856.39443812, 24 hour low: 870.001, 24 hour high: 1240.0, 24 hour vwap: 1079.57079
gribble: Coinbase BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1005.72, Best ask: 1028.26, Bid-ask spread: 22.54000, Last trade: 1016.03, 24 hour volume: None, 24 hour low: None, 24 hour high: None, 24 hour vwap: None
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MG] 5555 @ 0.000158 = 0.8777 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.NSA] 8888 @ 0.00015 = 1.3332 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: In a sign of the times, whistleblowers who help bust illegal gold shipments can get a bigger reward in India than those who help catch cocaine and heroin smugglers.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] 493 @ 0.0006499 = 0.3204 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: "while traditional MMOs have epic raids, we have extravagant balls"
kleeck_: I WANT TO BE THE BELL OF THE BALL!
kleeck_: " various game scenarios like dinner parties"
kleeck_: What will guilds be called? "Knitting Clubs"?
kleeck_: "Unlike many multi-player games, it's not about kill or be killed but invite or be invited. Gossip is our weapon of choice. Instead of raids, we will have grand balls. Instead of dungeons, we will have dinner parties."
kleeck_: I cannot wait until 4Chan picks this up as a target.
pankkake: so it's a mmorpg for little girls?
kleeck_: And grandmothers, apparently.
kleeck_: "Did you hear? xxKILLERSLUTxx didn't get an invite to the King's Ball!" *GASP!*
mircea_popescu: this is one of those things that sounds good on paper and then goes nowhere.
mircea_popescu: well... this doesn't sound that good on paper, either.
pankkake: what, having a 24/7 spycam streaming to the NSA?
pankkake: though I'd like to try the eye thing. and know what optometrists think about it
pankkake: having some sort of permanent HUD would be great
davout: just put it on when you fuck some bitches to get the NSA guys all hard
kakobrekla: ok so i just made a cup of this ethiopian coffee you assets scammed me into buying
kakobrekla: its not bad, but nothing special so far, maybe the dosage is a bit off
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.14995 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: so you buy a code with which you can buy a pair
kakobrekla: is there a code i must buy to buy the code?
pankkake: well it also must depend on people. I know I am very subject to weird stuff in my eyes. can't do that 3D shit or even images moving randomly
jurov`: why pair? they make lefthanded version too?
ThickAsThieves: 3D bugs me too, but for some reason it was fine for me during a recent thor viewing
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 80 @ 0.0029 = 0.232 BTC [+]
pankkake: well, those things will be a goldmine for orthoptists
kakobrekla: im not beer expert , but i had a lot of different ones
kakobrekla: the last one i had was in romania actually
ozbot: Scientist-developed malware prototype covertly jumps air gaps using inaudible sound | Ars Technica
jurov`: i'm sticking to my rpi for airgapping purposes
jurov`: what's the blob gonna do?
jurov`: well everyone was "hurr durr aint use ultrasound, there are filters"
ozbot: A simple example as to why fiat institutions can’t stand pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
jurov`: or use modulation that sounds like white noise
ThickAsThieves: so will noise cancellation be a future security feature?
jurov`: that falls under RF compatibility
jurov`: but everyone cheats to meet rf norms
jurov`: cuz it's expensive to do it right
pankkake: just listen to merzbow and you'll be safe
nubbins`: noise cancellation ain't great for unexpected signals
jurov`: just demand proper RF compatibility, as used in TV studios
jurov`: you just have to pay 100x more for stuff
pankkake: also you can control the fan of GPUs easily
ThickAsThieves: as a wanna-be audiophile i dont trust noise cancellation not to fuck up the sound anyway
pankkake: just saying it's another source of communication
nubbins`: is a mic and a circuit that precisely inverts the sound coming into the mic
nubbins`: great if you're on an airplane
nubbins`: useless if you're seated next to a shrieking baby
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 2 @ 0.05499999 = 0.11 BTC [-]
nubbins`: i just figured they used tungsten wires to carry the signal ;)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17630 @ 0.00078219 = 13.79 BTC [-]
nubbins`: amagi metals: "The bad news is that there is a huge snow storm that hit us here in Denver, so there may be some shipping delays from FedEx and USPS after we get your orders out."
nubbins`: somebody mentioned yesterday about -18F in denver?
nubbins`: no doubt their silver rounds are snapping in half down there
nubbins`: and their marihuana cigarettes will not stay lit
nubbins`: has hockey started yet? those guys are probably fine
nubbins`: he's a toronto city councillor
nubbins`: yes, that's right, the fine folks of toronto voted two idiot brothers into office
nubbins`: i think the point being made is that they always support each other
nubbins`: except for that one time when doug was mad at rob
nubbins`: around the time he was accused of smoking crack
nubbins`: the implication being that doug knew it was true, and was quite upset
nubbins`: ah, he's had his gunwales padded?
nubbins`: wait, sorry, no. other baffle.
mircea_popescu: "I do not understand where the backing of Bitcoin is coming from. There is no fundamental means of "repaying' it by any means that is universally accepted."
pankkake: yeah, he said bitcoin isn't backed by anything!
pankkake: who would ever use such a currency!
ozbot: Loper OS » For Your Eyes Only
mircea_popescu: "I haven't been able to identfy the intrinsic value of Bitcoin - maybe someone else can...
mircea_popescu: but if you ask me if this is a bubble in bitcoin... yeah it's a bubble.
mircea_popescu: the funny part is... bernanke just said gold is a bubble
ThickAsThieves: so he says I dunno wtf is going on, but lemme tell ya, it's def a bubble
mircea_popescu: my take home ios that it sucks having kids. because if you have kids then you have to find employment, which transforms you into bernanke. and then you grow old, which makes you greenspan.
ThickAsThieves: but how will your vision for the world be achieved once you pass?
pankkake: I don't think he acknowledges his mortality
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.0029 = 0.58 BTC [+]
nubbins`: "To read about all those other people you’ve got to buy the Professional version or even the Enterprise Edition."
mircea_popescu: pankkake i just don't acknowledge the relevance of the world past that point.
mircea_popescu: maybe i'm reborn a mastiff on a porn set in california.
mircea_popescu: i like it when people catch on vague maladroit references i make
nubbins`: any sharper and i'd cut myself
ozbot: 2013 0 5 BTC Brass Casascius Physical Bitcoin Redeemed | eBay
jurov`: gpg signed, sent back under same name
nubbins`: "what's this niggers.asc in our network drive?"
mircea_popescu: they really like it and ivnite you to weird aryan union events
nubbins`: i should really back up my pgp keys and put them somewhere safe
pankkake: someone should make chocolate bitcoins
nubbins`: well maybe i should glue it to a cufflink.
ozbot: 3 Bitcoin Chocolate Gold Foil Coins NO BTC Value Casascius $1 Liberty Coin Bonus | eBay
nubbins`: "200 pounds of muscle and sinew"
kakobrekla: i got a few of those 1 btc ones empty and full, maybe its time for the market to have em
nubbins`: kako, the going rate seems to be 140-160usd, regardless of denomination
kakobrekla: i better wait till cas dude is in jail
nubbins`: ah, i don't think he's gonna go to jail
ThickAsThieves: mp will your lollipop factory be all nude women to prevent theft?
nubbins`: just get the clampers put on his biz
nubbins`: ThickAsThieves: the canadian mint does this
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves well... women may be inadequate. nude 12yos ?
nubbins`: you can't let people with teeth into the building
pankkake: nude diabetics. if they lick they die?
nubbins`: kakobrekla: which full ones do you have?
nubbins`: trailing zeroes are significant :(
kakobrekla: im going to trade them for buttcoin pic
ll: lol this chan is awesome
nubbins`: sometimes i wonder about my cat
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
kakobrekla: you see where paying dividends brings you to....
ozbot: China Bans Financial Companies From Bitcoin Transactions - Bloomberg
kakobrekla: anyway wouldnt publishing such info prematurely be sketchy
ll: hmm whats the KENXPL one
nubbins`: some sort of diamondcoin mining operation
Korbman: lol pull labcoin, add kenilworth
gribble: (buy [--long] <amount> <thing> [at|@] <priceperunit> <otherthing> [<notes>]) -- Logs a buy order for <amount> units of <thing>, at a price of <price> per unit, in units of <otherthing>. Use the optional <notes> field to put in any special notes. <price> may include an arithmetical expression, and {(mtgox|bitstamp)(ask|bid|last|high|low|avg)} to index price to mtgox ask, bid, last, high, (1 more message)
gribble: This order would exceed the size of the order book. You would buy 26053.649 bitcoins, for a total of 344391906.6772 USD and take the price to 1000000000.0000. | Data vintage: 112.7465 seconds
gribble: A market order to buy 80 bitcoins right now would take 86200.7744 USD and would take the last price up to 1085.9990 USD, resulting in an average price of 1077.5097 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 128.2626 seconds
gribble: (market buy [--usd] [--market <market>] <value>) -- Calculate the effect on the market depth of a market buy order of <value> bitcoins. If <market> is provided, uses that exchange. Default is mtgox. If '--usd' option is given, <value> denotes the size of the order in USD.
ozbot: BAML Initiates Coverage On Bitcoin - Business Insider
gribble: A market order to buy 80000.0000 USD worth of bitcoins right now would buy 74.290258 bitcoins and would take the last price up to 1085.9990 USD, resulting in an average price of 1076.8572 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 181.6505 seconds
ThickAsThieves: "our fair value analysis implies a maximum market capitalization of Bitcoin of $15bn"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34479998 BTC [-]
nubbins`: "Breaking: Largest, most authoritarian government in the world manages to slightly inconvenience Bitcoin for an hour or so."
ThickAsThieves: jamespeerless, the article basically says "We intend to buy bitcoins, please don't rally til we have."
ThickAsThieves: a commenter: "If you found this article useful, please donate BtC (preferably before they become even more worthless). 1HjVaQegDCoDrGgW"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33299795 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: you know what "bit coin" means in slovenian
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33299795 BTC [-]
pankkake: a coin backed by horses would work wonders in romania
ThickAsThieves: US personal consumption expenditures totaled $11trn in 2012
ThickAsThieves: Household checking deposits and cash totaled $0.7trn in 2012
ThickAsThieves: Dividing the former by the latter, we get 0.07 (which we will refer to as velocity from now on)
pankkake: "Given Bitcoin does not pay any interest and that there are no investment instruments (equities or bonds) that are denominated in Bitcoin"
KRS|gotyawallet: The horses backed coin would work equally as well in Somalia and Croatia.
ThickAsThieves: "Bottom-line: maximum market capitalization for Bitcoin’s as a store of value = $5bn"
dexX7: it all seems random
ThickAsThieves: now some other firm can be like nah, here's a better way
ThickAsThieves: the irony being that fair market value is so easy to find
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1064.69472, Best ask: 1078.787, Bid-ask spread: 14.09228, Last trade: 1060.13587, 24 hour volume: 56785.86176932, 24 hour low: 870.001, 24 hour high: 1240.0, 24 hour vwap: 1076.51875
pankkake: pourquoi la frimousse triste ?
nubbins`: je n'aime pas les temps froid ;(
nubbins`: nous allons donner pankkake un mal de tete ;/
pankkake: I've been often confused on the number of P and L on appelle. appelle, appel, but apeller
Apocalyptic: pankkake, ça s'utilise encore "frimousse" de nos jours ?
pankkake: ça ne s'utilise pas, on utilise "smiley", but it felt silly using an English word when purposely using French
ThickAsThieves: "Criminals setting "fair" value to the Magic the Gathering card version of currency. That's fucking rich."
nubbins`: srsly, just cut the top off a faberger egg so my cat wouldn't have to drink out of a dish like some kind of fucking prole
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 21 @ 0.0226 = 0.4746 BTC [+]
pankkake: gangsta rap should promote bitcoin. too bad casacsius didn't make bitcoin pendants
nubbins`: l'utilisation de mots anglais dans une phrase française semble un peu bizarre
pankkake: les québécois ne le font pas, mais les français si
nubbins`: although i suppose you feel the same way when you read "well, folks, let's go to the restaurant for lunch!"
topace: is anyone doing just-dice graphs like there used to be for satoshi dice ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 6 @ 0.0226 = 0.1356 BTC [+]
nubbins`: les québécois n'est pas français ;p
pankkake: Americans who use French words to appear smart (redditors) are funny
nubbins`: pankkake: around the time of the "freedom fries" thing, i read an article where the guy said we should stop using ALL french loanwords
nubbins`: he then proceeded to cross out all french words in his article and replace them
nubbins`: took him three lines to describe the place where he would eat
nubbins`: "Restau... no, caf... no, uh..."
nubbins`: the french embassy had no comment, except to say that french fries were invented in belgium
pankkake: restaurant in American = mcdonald's
mircea_popescu: pankkake> "Given Bitcoin does not pay any interest and that there are no investment instruments (equities or bonds) that are denominated in Bitcoin" << herp.
mircea_popescu: given that retards discussing bitcoin have no clue, we predict continued drama and lulz.
nubbins`: dunno, my bitcoins have paid plenty of interest
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 132 @ 0.00299598 = 0.3955 BTC [+] {2}
nubbins`: maybe they bought the wrong kind
pankkake: I have a fiat account that gives me a few percent per year. I used to watch it and move money it/out etc.
pankkake: bitcoin kinda changed my persective
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.02485399 = 0.1243 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: <Apocalyptic> pankkake, ça s'utilise encore "frimousse" de nos jours ? << i was thinking. fucking ordinateur and "frimousse"
nubbins`: internet words are always tricky
nubbins`: when i did web dev, we'd have to send message bundles off to get translated
mircea_popescu: it's cute in the sense of 30yo unshaved woman that can't poledance pestering her cuckolded "bf" on xmas eve.
nubbins`: you'd have people translating the word "click", "email", etc multiple ways in the same document
nubbins`: and of course half the translators were quebecois and the other half were acadiens
nubbins`: and just now, i learned that half a million acadiens moved to louisiana.
nubbins`: and just NOW, i'm realizing that's where the word "cajun" comes from
deadweasel: resistant to the governments nonsense. very resistent.
nubbins`: i'm sure pankkake is preparing to throw his wooden shoes into some gears as we speak
pankkake: they might not like the government, they like the State
deadweasel: then the cajuns have moved far enough away from the french, thank jesus.
deadweasel: truly I have no malice for the french, it's conditioned into me.
nubbins`: see for reference, last year's casseroles protests
pankkake: well, governments fail to do anything good every year, but you know, the next one is going to be great!
ozbot: Casseroles 'Pots and Pans' Montreal Protest Video - YouTube
pankkake: but I have to admit I like the current protests
nubbins`: man, that got me so fucking angry last year
mircea_popescu: so seriously, did that fortune guy ever manage to short btc ?
mircea_popescu: "À toujours vouloir bien paraître, je crois que le Parti Québécois enfoncera un autre clou dans son cercueil. Le Parti Québécois semble servir jour après jour les intérêts des riches avec leurs visées néolibérales anglo-saxonnes. Les assistés sociaux, les étudiants, les francophones et maintenant les travailleurs pâtiront. "
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 77 @ 0.00299599 = 0.2307 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: holy shit, the french speaking canadians imagine they are going to be MORE socialist than the anglo-saxons ?!
mircea_popescu: these people actually believe what's wrong with the us etc is that they are stepping too much on the throat of the proletariat ?!
nubbins`: in that context, anglo-saxon essentially should be translated as "bogeyman"
mircea_popescu: dude, how about no futher "dignite" of any kind for five years.
pankkake: we have « ultralibéral » in France
nubbins`: the PQ thought they had it knocked
nubbins`: huge protests, PQ to the rescue! repeal the special law!
nubbins`: then they realized the population wasn't finished with being upset
nubbins`: pauline marois is way worse than jean charest
ThickAsThieves: getting so tired of all is babbling like he is in-the-know and some kind of soothsayer
nubbins`: but dude, you're missing the human element
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves if the dork you were quoting earlier can opine about what the mkt cap of bitcoin should be,
ThickAsThieves: basically they want to paint their obsessive passive aggression as some kind humanitarian effort or something
assbot: no grease for your size
nubbins`: i'm imagining a mechanical iris closing
ThickAsThieves: Install Failed. Would you like to check Windows Update for a solution?
ThickAsThieves: I'd reason with the guy if I didn;t think it'd result it point by point epic messages where he never gives in
mircea_popescu: isn't this the dork that was falling all over himself with mpoe-pr earlier ?
pankkake: oh, hence in my ignore list :D
mircea_popescu: but i recall greyhawk's comment that his avatar is well chosen
ThickAsThieves: i had him ignored but now he's all up in Neo's business
pankkake: anyone in that board should be scammer tagged anyway
mircea_popescu: pankkake anyone not in my wot is scammer tagged by default.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 65 @ 0.0077 = 0.5005 BTC {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 37 @ 0.0077 = 0.2849 BTC {2}
mircea_popescu: "I have searched Google and I haven't found an answer to what it is am looking for. So here is the deal am looking for a MMORPG (not FPS) that I and a friend can play without the need of putting any money on it. It should be completely free (no one time buy, no need to put money to buy higher gear, no need to upgrade the account to open some other stuff and bag limits.) Also prefer if the game isn't from perfect world
mircea_popescu: international (since I have had bad history with there employees)."
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 1111 @ 0.0077 = 8.5547 BTC {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 50 @ 0.0077 = 0.385 BTC
mircea_popescu: it's like... total complete bonehead. employees don't need to be paid.
nubbins`: this guy wants a great game that he can play for free
mircea_popescu: no riffraff like ThickAsThieves mind. people with better consumer focus.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.14995 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 1005 @ 0.0077 = 7.7385 BTC {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] [PAID] 2.28033270 BTC to 5`067`406 shares, 45 satoshi per share
nubbins`: i'll inspect your wallet, credit card receipts, and health records for free
ThickAsThieves: "Any Capital raised by Havelock Investments on behalf of this Fund will be placed in escrow. The raised capital will only be distributed to the Company based on a per performance basis agreed by Havelock Investments and the Company. In the event that the Company is no longer able to continue operations, all of the remaining capital in escrow will be refunded to the Unit holders equally."
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.15 = 0.6 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: so basically every mistake that can be made will have to be made
mircea_popescu: well, it's simple : if you don't trust the company don't let it list.
mircea_popescu: i;m too lazy to go into the endless debate as to why stupidity doesn't work. i'll just state the general point and shrug.
Korbman: but that's not how the new Havelock makes money ;)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 10005 @ 0.0077 = 77.0385 BTC {2}
jurov`: Mhm...i can't follow,what has changed at havelock?
jurov`: Moving to panama aside.
nubbins`: something like 50 funds waiting in the wings?
Namworld: Really? Where's the announcement on that? >.>
pankkake: on their own IPO, they stated that
nubbins`: adding 12 new funds each quarter
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 10000 @ 0.0077 = 77 BTC
Namworld: Panama says: Give ID, list anything
pankkake: the new info is also that CFIG is mostly Panama Fund guys
nubbins`: i drew a little diagram way back
nubbins`: it had a bunch of question marks
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 2012 @ 0.0077 = 15.4924 BTC {4}
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nubbins`: that's essentially what virtex's debit cards do, but with automatic conversion of btc to fiat
nubbins`: also, my trust link is green now?!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 1978 @ 0.0077 = 15.2306 BTC {2}
Korbman: I see 7C is pretty much only pulling in large orders
Namworld: And almost round... like 10000 > 10000 > 2000 > 2000
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 20 @ 0.0077 = 0.154 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 25 @ 0.0077 = 0.1925 BTC
TomServo: mircea_popescu: the tabletop rpg?
TomServo: Appears to be unrelated. I haven't played it.
TomServo: I was thinking of "Rifts" anyhow.
nubbins`: would play a settlers of catan themed btc game
nubbins`: or a btc themed settlers of catan, not sure
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 90 @ 0.0077 = 0.693 BTC
nubbins`: you could actually probably completely re-skin catan to have a btc theme
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 26 @ 0.0077 = 0.2002 BTC {2}
nubbins`: hey, some of the best things are free
nubbins`: like google, and that guy who offered to help me install that btc security software on my computer
nubbins`: unless you think there's some sort of catch to using both of those things?!?!?!
mircea_popescu: deadweasel baby, can you ferret out the owners of rift ?
mircea_popescu: Gameplay requires: (1) INTERNET CONNECTION (SOLD SEPARATELY), AND (2) ACCEPTANCE OF LICENSE AND USAGE TERMS.
mircea_popescu: you suppose anyone accused them of scamming because they don't also provide you with internet ?
mircea_popescu: "but i vbought the game fair and square!!11 why can't i play it on my toaster!11"
nubbins`: pretty much the definition of scam
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 15 @ 0.0077 = 0.1155 BTC
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 8750 @ 0.0077 = 67.375 BTC {3}
ThickAsThieves: was harder to find him saying his catchphrase than i thought itd be
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 6000 @ 0.0077 = 46.2 BTC {2}
deadweasel: mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves , I'm at work, give me a general starting link and I'll see.
nubbins`: ThickAsThieves: you know ultimate warrior does knife painting now?
ThickAsThieves: deadweasel, Rift is a major game, you'd need to start with the studio probly
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 63 @ 0.00299699 = 0.1888 BTC [+]
Namworld: There's only one quality IPO coming up. Calm your horses and the random ideas IPOs.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1276 @ 0.00011042 = 0.1409 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20500 @ 0.00078219 = 16.0349 BTC [-]
Namworld: Ideas are 2 bucks a dozen, not 5 million each
mircea_popescu: no rush whatever, if you manage it at all you're a miracle worker anyway
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves well if it's f2p it ain't that major namean ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.344767 = 0.6895 BTC [+]
nubbins`: i like to imagine him painting these with a huge rambo knife, rather than a palette knife
nubbins`: that's an original, not a print
nubbins`: ah, yeah, i think the other size is a print
ThickAsThieves: i know many artists try to sell prints for ridic prices
nubbins`: tat, i have much to say on the subject of prints
nubbins`: no, and in fact, i don't consider giclees "prints" in the traditional sense of the word
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33800001 BTC [-]
nubbins`: they're closer to color photocopies than anything
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33800001 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 418 @ 0.000479 = 0.2002 BTC [-]
nubbins`: producing a print takes skill and effort, and each one is usually a unique piece
nubbins`: producing a giclee involves making sure your ink cartridges are topped up, and clicking a mouse
nubbins`: oh, sure, sometimes. but that's still just dicking around on the computer
nubbins`: a $250 epson can produce beautiful CMYK giclee prints
nubbins`: but they're worth the cost of the paper and inks, plus maybe $20
nubbins`: to compare a giclee to a linocut or a serigraph is truly taking the piss
nubbins`: nothing worse than seeing people selling small "prints" for $50 each
ThickAsThieves: to me, i'd either want the original, or a good-enough print to look pretty on the wall
nubbins`: and then finding out they're fuckin giclees
nubbins`: it doesn't exist as a piece of art until it's printed
nubbins`: and each print is unique, as the linoleum squishes around and wears down
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nubbins`: a giclee is just a copy of an original
KRS|gotyawallet: Wonder how long til the Serbians get on board with their own bitcoin wallets.
nubbins`: compared to linocut, monotype, serigraph, etc, where the prints ARE originals
nubbins`: people have a lot of trouble with that point
ThickAsThieves: well the concept is that people want to know the artist stood there and made the thing
nubbins`: or at the very least, had a hand in its production
nubbins`: often the artist and the printer work hand-in-hand
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33332 BTC [-]
nubbins`: altho our clients are generally pretty easygoing
ThickAsThieves: I have no money, but I want 5 prints of 50 of my pieces!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 13 @ 0.0077 = 0.1001 BTC
nubbins`: we explicitly do not own a color printer for this very reason
nubbins`: well. we have a printer that can print color (6 tanks!)
nubbins`: but it's all loaded with super-opaque pigment inks
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 13 @ 0.0077 = 0.1001 BTC
nubbins`: the best jobs are where we're given free reign over the art
ThickAsThieves: my mom used to work painting separations of textile patterns onto acetate plastic sheets by hand
nubbins`: "we want some posters made, here's a list of things we like: interrobangs, lasers, robots, etc"
nubbins`: years of poor computer posture combined with manual printing
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.155 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: she'd have like 20 sheets layered over eachother in one brown blob when done
nubbins`: generally just use gimp with a wacom tablet these days
nubbins`: our usual process is pencil -> ink -> gimp -> inkscape -> illustrator -> acetate -> silkscreens -> paper
nubbins`: and really, we only use illustrator for printing films
nubbins`: would be nice if we didn't need it
nubbins`: but inkscape doesn't support CMYK print output (srsly)
nubbins`: i mean, inkscape itself is great for vector work
nubbins`: it just barfs at the output step
nubbins`: so we shelled out $800 for illustrator
nubbins`: and another $500 for 3rd party epson drivers
ThickAsThieves: but the keystrokes and tools and like everything for vector editing in corel is just better imo
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 30 @ 0.0077 = 0.231 BTC
nubbins`: yeah, illo is powerful, but most of it is still beyond me
nubbins`: the image trace options in cs6 are fuckin great tho
nubbins`: tried to get away without using one for so long
nubbins`: i almost wept when i saw the first set of separations accurip spit out
nubbins`: felt like i'd discovered bitcoin
deadweasel: who exactly from rift do you want to talk to?
deadweasel: and just what do they want to talk with you about? :)
deadweasel: i can't make it up if I havne't followed the story.
nubbins`: anyway, people have no idea what a pain pre-press work is
nubbins`: "yeah my artwork is ready to go"
nubbins`: not even converted to spot colors
nubbins`: the thing about "graphic designers" that fucking pisses me off
nubbins`: is that none of them understand print
nubbins`: "ahh, the guy who prints it can figure that out"
nubbins`: and then the poor client pays me $xx/h to recreate the goddamn image from scratch
nubbins`: it's a completely separate skillset
nubbins`: "how would you like niggers.txt screened?"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 5000 @ 0.0077 = 38.5 BTC
nubbins`: 61 lpi, 22.5 deg angle, please
nubbins`: only discovered "overprint fill/stroke" recently
deadweasel: "i want all niggers.txt screened out of my t=shirt, please."
ThickAsThieves: i once printed seps for an album cover on the newspaper's hardware where i wored
nubbins`: what did they call those projectors they used to use for seps?
nubbins`: i can't remember either. rad tho.
nubbins`: would love to get into letterpress
nubbins`: and i'd want to be able to make my own plates
nubbins`: which makes it a REALLY expensive setup
ThickAsThieves: people will pay pretty well for it, but way too custom for my patience again
nubbins`: yeah, there's basically zero market outside of wedding invitations too
nubbins`: one of our printers works days at a wedding planning place
ThickAsThieves: in the end i was hand-scoring and trimming corners one by one
nubbins`: "yeah, auhhmmm, i want flowers like pandora vanderpump had at her wedding... but i don't want them to, like, cost a lot"
nubbins`: we've silkscreened some wedding invites
ThickAsThieves: (sorry channel, I'm just about bored with the print talk) :)
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 61 @ 0.00318637 = 0.1944 BTC [-] {7}
gribble: Premium of BTCChina over MtGox is currently -9.57021326982 %.
mike_c: china is asleep at the wheel.
mike_c: everybody ran to china to arbitrage and drove the price down :)
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nubbins`: some years ago, mary brown's released this new sandwich called the Big Mary
nubbins`: some guy thought a play on "hail caesar" would be a good idea
nubbins`: massive posters in bus shelters everywhere depicting a chicken sandwich
nubbins`: "HAIL MARY" in foot-high letters
nubbins`: catholic church became very upset
nubbins`: shocked that the mother of god would be compared to a chicken sandwich!
nubbins`: and so the posters came back down
nubbins`: we've actually been experimenting with silkscreening posters for taping to poles
nubbins`: great, A+++, would do business with again
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
nubbins`: ^ surprisingly resilient to the elements
nubbins`: we bought a 36"x1000' roll of red kraft paper, great idea
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00299699 = 0.1498 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.165 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 50 @ 0.0077 = 0.385 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19534 @ 0.00078614 = 15.3565 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 333 @ 0.00299799 = 0.9983 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 129 @ 0.0077 = 0.9933 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 5000 @ 0.0077 = 38.5 BTC
TomServo: What's your standard response to "It's a ponzi!"?
mike_c: you mean pyramid scheme?
TomServo: Although that'd be more accurate. You mean, that's your response?
mike_c: tough to be a ponzi without somebody running the whole thing.
mike_c: somebody is typically holding all the money in a ponzi. who would that be?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8955 @ 0.00078889 = 7.0645 BTC [+]
mike_c: he's got all the bitcoins :) somebody would have to have all the fiat for it to be a ponzi.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.16899999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33809999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 1000 @ 0.0077 = 7.7 BTC
benkay: asciilifeform, mircea_popescu: what's stupid about the NTRU encryption scheme?
benkay: (assuming there's something dumb and that you two'd know)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.16899999 BTC [+]
davout: TomServo: it's not a pyramid scheme, it's a triangular opportunity
davout: i didn't come up with it, i think it comes from the simpsons
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 475 @ 0.0077 = 3.6575 BTC
kleeck_: What is the best place to short BTC?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00079052 = 2.2925 BTC [+]
davout: kleeck_: you could buy some puts on mpex
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33330001 BTC [-]
benkay: or sell some calls if you're sufficiently capitalized.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3333 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 5844 @ 0.00048987 = 2.8628 BTC [+] {4}
mike_c: or on coinbr.com (mpex broker)
davout: benkay: i've been working on my financial education a lot recently still lots to learn, but isn't it much more dangerous to write options than it is to buy them ?
davout: the way i understand it you can lose a lot but your profit is capped by the price at which you sell the option
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1417 @ 0.00048994 = 0.6942 BTC [+] {3}
mike_c: yes, but you profit sooner
mike_c: at a higher price that is
davout: unlike futures where your profit varies linearly with the spot price of the underlying at maturity/expiration
davout: mike_c: well, i guess it's up to the party who writes the option to come up with the right price
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2800 @ 0.00048999 = 1.372 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 97 @ 0.0031821 = 0.3087 BTC [-]
davout: got myself "Options, futures, and other derivatives" doing the problems, I feel like I'm back in college xD
davout: mike_c: see, that's the kind of graphs I want to really understand by coming up with them the hard way :-)
benkay: pricing options is an open problem, yes.
davout: the MPOE bot knows something about it hehe
mike_c: i value learning by experience, but the p/l graphs are definitely something you should understand before trading options.
davout: i'm not touching options, and i certainly won't write them
benkay: if you really want to understand options, write a pricing algo.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.155 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 221 @ 0.0077 = 1.7017 BTC
benkay: i'd like to see a shor-resistant cryptocurrency.
benkay: kinda the only altcoin that makes practical sense.
benkay: just so that when cold wallets start emptying themselves those who keep their eyes on these things have another class of cryptocoin to move into.
davout: benkay: i guess i'll need to understand how to model volatility before writing one
mircea_popescu: davout the main difference between options and futures is that a correctly implemented future allows physical delivery,
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 3 @ 0.051 = 0.153 BTC [-]
davout: can you elaborate on the keeping the market honest part ?
davout: and on the awkwardly skinned options part ? :-)
mircea_popescu: davout yeah. if you buy the right to receive livestock in the future, as long as you can't actually take the livestock
mircea_popescu: you're stuck realising whatever price whoever sold you the contract decides
mircea_popescu: if however you CAN take the livestock, then they are well incentivised to not declare livestock worth 10 dollars, cause you'll just take it.
davout: when you close your position you mean?
davout: finance is terrifyingly interesting
mircea_popescu: an option resolves this problem by trading on the spot. futures trade on their own "implied" spot, and so you can easily be stuck
davout: learning about it is quite enjoyable
mircea_popescu: (for instance it's convincingly arguing atm that the large banks are keeping rthe gold price very low throuigh this exact trickery)
benkay: whereas if you take posession of the livestock, you can sell them for the market price.
mircea_popescu: davout the price at which options settle is not related to the price at which options trade, in the sense these are independent values.
mircea_popescu: the price at which futures settle is QUITE the price at which they trade.
davout: but the spot is still the spot right? i mean, it reflects the actual price of things? or am i missing something obvious here?
benkay: asciilifeform: the first set of course
mircea_popescu: thje spot is the spot, but the actual price shall never be known.
benkay: asciilifeform: i'm entertaining ideas about practical altcoin design
davout: mircea_popescu: i'm at chapter 2 of my book, hopefully i'll grok moar and come up with better questions as i progress
benkay: asciilifeform: examples: targeting fpga's; dynamic workfns (as you mentioned); sorcery resistance
davout: feels like a good way to invest 100eur
TomServo: ThickAsThieves: This is the UK onion right? *sigh*
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00299 = 0.299 BTC [-]
dub: asciilifeform: swapping them for guys with warehouses of pgas as central banks?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00317293 = 0.3173 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 20 @ 0.0077 = 0.154 BTC
pankkake: haha and they don't accept litecoin as payment
benkay: hey mircea_popescu what does anul 5 d.Tr. mean?
mike_c: asciilifeform: i don't see how arbitrary work function helps. have you written something up on this? i'm missing the part where it keeps asics out of the game.
ozbot: Urban Dictionary: anul
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 22 @ 0.0249409 = 0.5487 BTC [+] {3}
mike_c: like you said, governments can crank out a new asic in a matter of weeks..
KRS|gotyawallet: mike_c: not the U.S.. I mean, have you known the U.S. to get anything done in a matter of weeks?
mike_c: asciilifeform said the nsa has a plant that does it
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 126 @ 0.02499999 = 3.15 BTC [+] {2}
mike_c: i don't see how that prevents the semiconductor plants from being boss. they can still crank out the most work, regardless of what that work is.
mike_c: unless its planting tomatoes or something.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33809999 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: so this forbes guy that wanted to short bitcoin so badly, ythink he knew about this china announcement?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 166 @ 0.002995 = 0.4972 BTC [+]
ozbot: Next generation 14nm mining grid
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33805978 BTC [-]
pankkake: We plan to harness what will soon be the largest and most efficient pool of hashing power in the world"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.33806979 = 0.6761 BTC [+]
pankkake: oh right it's the smartphone idea, lol. that's why I closed it the first time
mircea_popescu: i like the part about THE SCAMMERS chjecking other people's records./
pankkake: floor tiles would actually be smart (if you have nothing better than electricity)
pankkake: perhaps they are nigerians with an ethical policy of only scamming americans
nubbins`: 60 minutes on a stationary bike
nubbins`: definitely less fun than 60 minutes on a moving bike
Vexual: chinese pesants can't put bitcoins in the bank. am i reading correctly?
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nubbins`: ^ arij from -otc got $234.50 for a token :0
ThickAsThieves: "The residue resulting from peeling off the hologram is included."
nubbins`: i went a step further and removed all messy residue from mine
nubbins`: maybe that's why it's only at $145
nubbins`: Up for auction is one (1) ball of residue from a Casascius physical bitcoin
nubbins`: wow your friends! scare your mom!
nubbins`: "Thank you for your interest."
nubbins`: if only the letters "h-a-r-d-e-r" were in the word "interest"
Vexual: st kitss has good residue
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11550 @ 0.00079145 = 9.1412 BTC [+] {2}
KRS|gotyawallet: another exchange coming it looks like..well funded launch too
ozbot: » itBit closes $3.25 mln funding round and unveils Bitcoin trading platform
KRS|gotyawallet: ecom type web sites can easily chew through that kind of funding..hope its just the initial round of investment
benkay: "retail investors must reside outside the us"
benkay: the decline doth proceed apace.
gribble: Current Blocks: 273270 | Current Difficulty: 7.074082830514966E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 274175 | Next Difficulty In: 905 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 4 hours, 49 minutes, and 39 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 871682636.513 | Estimated Percent Change: 23.222
Vexual: I thought that was creative chinese tax accountants i could hear
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gribble: Premium of MtGox over Bitstamp is currently 8.56154367093 %.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 400 @ 0.00079236 = 0.3169 BTC [+]
pankkake: I love when they get angry at you (like 7C it seems). Who's begging for who's money?
mike_c: people are angry at you on the forums? hard to believe.
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 16 @ 0.0077 = 0.1232 BTC {2}
ozbot: MSc Digital Currency | University of Nicosia
nubbins`: "remember the models with their pussies out?"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 40 @ 0.0029 = 0.116 BTC [-] {2}
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 169 @ 0.00285973 = 0.4833 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00285 = 0.285 BTC [-] {2}
benkay: "that lead me to question just how real the prices MPEx was quoting were"
benkay: as real as the people buying them, one assumes
benkay: 2 contracts minimum to profit
benkay: sounds like you need some capitalization
benkay: american "news" organizations
benkay: "you can totally short bitcoins profitably - it just takes a lot of money to make it reasonably profitable. ergo, bitcoins r tardfodder."
Vexual: I was told this happens a lot.
ThickAsThieves: "You can't currently do that with bitcoins. All of the bitcoin options and futures contracts are settled in bitcoins. This is a very bad deal."
ThickAsThieves: "On top of all that, this isn't like trading on the New York Stock Exchange. Midday Wednesday, MPEx appeared to shut down, and the prices of the contracts disappeared. I was told this happens a lot. As of early Thursday, the exchange still wasn't listing prices. "
pankkake: I don't even know what options are!
Apocalyptic: pankkake, no look at the first comment author's avatar
ozbot: #bitcoin-assets log
pankkake: Apocalyptic: haha, it's my avatar but not me
davout: pankkake: i thought it was you as well :-)
pankkake: I certainly don't mind the media talking about bitcoin, even if bad
ThickAsThieves: forbes guy coulda at least gave the chan a shoutout sheesh
pankkake: at least he didn't mention that when he joined the discussion was about underage actresses
pankkake: they clearly have the power to pump any security or altcoin they want
davout: could've been worse, he could have walked in on mp explaining how he manages his slaves herd
Vexual: revealing sources instantly transmogriphys a senior editing journalist into a lowly blogger
benkay: one wonders if he noticed.
davout: would be funny if someone posted a link to the log in the comments
benkay: someone do that please.
Vexual: i wonder if they'll print it
Vexual: fortune still on nesstands?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25700 @ 0.00079236 = 20.3637 BTC [+]
Vexual: nelson mandela issue, buy mpoe
mircea_popescu: why is it the exchange's problem if the bot puts or doesn't put orders in
pankkake: "The best I could come up with is shorting the GPU manufacturers that bitcoin miners commonly use" in the comments
mircea_popescu: i suppose he missed the part where last month ppl made like 3k btc or w./e
pankkake: and the obligatory tulip bulp mention
mircea_popescu: i guess it's hard being clueless and yet havintg to write about shit.
ThickAsThieves: hey no one pointed out that bitcoin's worth more than Google
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.02888997 = 0.2889 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 15 @ 0.0077 = 0.1155 BTC
Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu, well in your case the exchange is the market maker also
Apocalyptic: but he didn't mention that and seem to have no clue so yeah
Vexual: next time someone should probably wake mircea