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dub: was looking for this earlier, probably the greatest moment in second life http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RedLyae4b2s
truffles: "inappropriate for some users"
dub: cocks everywhere
kakobrekla: i dont see how some random dicks running around is funny
truffles: predators find it funny
kakobrekla: i mean, its nothing new.
kakobrekla: dicks.
dub: this was like the first live-to-reality interview with the richest secondlifer
dub: I guess it needs context
kakobrekla: who is the richest secondlifer
dub: but then I guess you should have lurked moar amirite?
truffles: ya cuz im not signed in
dub: anshe chung
kakobrekla: that girl?
dub: if you don't know about everything that ever happened on the internet its not my fault
dub: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anshe_Chung
ozbot: Anshe Chung - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 50 @ 0.00225002 = 0.1125 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: "Chung currently owns thousands of servers' worth of land, "
kakobrekla: lol ok
pankkake: it's really a girl?
kakobrekla: this second life land, which the creators can print to infinity?
truffles: impressive
kakobrekla: like dollars n stuff
dub: no, they have to buy it off linden labs amd pay rent
dub: but yeah, LL can add as much 'land' as they like to a point
kakobrekla: ok but linden makes this out of shits and gigles
kakobrekla: great investment
dub: well she made bank
truffles: "With her first Linden dollars she was able to sponsor a boy named Geo from the Philippines through a German church organization."-- pretty cool imo
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 262 @ 0.0029016 = 0.7602 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: that should read 'she sponsored german church with a young boy from philippines'
dub: creating stuff like buildings, vehicles, furniture, genitalia in game takes actual work, she used sweatshops to produce shit and sold it/rented property
kakobrekla: i wonder what they paid her.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 88 @ 0.0029016 = 0.2553 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.15 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 790 @ 0.00081324 = 0.6425 BTC [-]
truffles: SL is not for lazi ppl
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MG] 1500 @ 0.000158 = 0.237 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: ;;xau
gribble: Error: "xau" is not a valid command.
kakobrekla: what is
kakobrekla: ;;bc,xau
gribble: 1 XAU = 1239.700000000000 USD = 1.00461913294 BTC
dub: heh
dub: <bbrox> Look you are blinded by BitCoin as is Peter Schiff by Gold and Greenspan by the Dollar. I am saying Trading LiteCoin has Advantage a) and Advantage b). I did my due dilligence and I know
dub: what i found out. There is nothing on earth that is going to convice me otherwise, especially not
dub: you.
dub: ...
dub: <bbrox> dub, and gox by some fat american bastard
dub: nice due dilligence thar
kakobrekla: so ltc is better than btc cause france is in merrica?
dub: yea
kakobrekla: i should defo get sum
Apocalyptic: is just Karpeles french or ne0futur too ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 261 @ 0.0029999 = 0.783 BTC [+]
truffles: dub uve gotten me to watch this sad display of SL omg
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.1493333 = 0.448 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.34879999 = 1.0464 BTC [-]
dub: I didn't think ne0futur worked there, he just hangs of tux' dick
dub: off*
Apocalyptic: dub, i've been told he's gox #2
truffles: "dancing with myself" and this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRj3HNx8_wA
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.14999996 = 0.3 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 80 @ 0.00327769 = 0.2622 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 812 @ 0.000451 = 0.3662 BTC [-]
dub: Apocalyptic: must be a recent thing
Namworld: What happened to the new satoshidice?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.14999997 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6645 @ 0.00080683 = 5.3614 BTC [-]
dub: as recently as a couple of months ago when I challenged him on his rampant gox shilling he claimed to have no attachment beyond fanboy
dub: he did have insider info from tux however
ThickAsThieves: just in case any of you can help, why is firewire service not showing in my new W7 machine?
ThickAsThieves: do new updates remove it or somehting
truffles: dunno what firewire is
ThickAsThieves: 1394
ThickAsThieves: it's like USB
ThickAsThieves: but like SCSI
Duffer1: have you tried newest drivers?
ThickAsThieves: but Apple-fied
ThickAsThieves: well all the firewire drivers exist
dub: you are the first person I've ever heard of using firewire
assbot: [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P095T] 10 @ 0.02 = 0.2 BTC [-]
dub: congrats
Duffer1: oh apple i know not
ThickAsThieves: dub, it's for my sound card
ThickAsThieves: a MOTU
ThickAsThieves: and old one
ThickAsThieves: an*
Duffer1: so apple running win7 w/ fire wire issue?
ThickAsThieves: no
nubbins`: i've got an old minidv camcorder that does firewire
ThickAsThieves: it actually works fine on the apple w7 setup
ThickAsThieves: this is just a normal w7 setup
ThickAsThieves: i'm worried the mobo cant support it at all or something
Duffer1: ya i was gonna say
truffles: but its brand new pc
truffles: shame
ThickAsThieves: but usually there is a category in Device Manager
ThickAsThieves: for 1394
Duffer1: has it ever worked on that comp?
ThickAsThieves: but it;s not even there
ThickAsThieves: its new
Duffer1: i'm shocked it even has a firewire plugin
ThickAsThieves: it doesnt
Duffer1: sound card?
ThickAsThieves: its a pci-e card
Duffer1: i see
ThickAsThieves: firewire sound cards are external
ThickAsThieves: it connects to the pcie
ThickAsThieves: its actually not a sound "card" at all
ThickAsThieves: its a rackmount unit
Duffer1: if it's pcie it shouldn't have a problem though
ThickAsThieves: http://media.soundonsound.com/sos/jul04/images/motu828mkii.l.jpg
Duffer1: sounds like some kind of driver issue, sorry man that's the extent of my suggestions :/
ThickAsThieves: i had the card showing up as a yellow ?
benkay: does anyone have an email for jurov`
benkay: ?
truffles: have u tried uninstalling and reinstalling? :D
ThickAsThieves: yeah, since uninstall it doesnt show at all now :/
ThickAsThieves: benkay i do
ThickAsThieves: i hope that helps
ThickAsThieves: :)
ThickAsThieves: support@coinbr.com
Duffer1: tat what's make/model of the unit?
ThickAsThieves: of what
ThickAsThieves: the mobo?
Duffer1: the audio equipment
benkay: thankee kindly, sir.
ThickAsThieves: thats not the issue
ThickAsThieves: w7 doesnt even see the pcie card
ThickAsThieves: anymore
Duffer1: have you tried a different pci-e slot?
ThickAsThieves: the pcie card and the sound card are two diff products
ThickAsThieves: no
Duffer1: so the pci-e is firewire specific?
ThickAsThieves: it is a firewire card
Duffer1: ohhh ok
ThickAsThieves: oh well, back to the frustration
truffles: if its broken before u even got to use it, tough times ahead
nubbins`: honey shreddies
Duffer1: thickasthieves http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-hardware/firewire-devices-not-getting-recognized-on-windows/5202e866-aed8-4a04-8e8b-9927a1906971
Duffer1: thickasthieves scroll down to afzal taher's reply where he has you swap to legacy drivers
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34879999 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: nope, changing the pcie slot worked!
Duffer1: ah right on :)
truffles: gj Duffer1
Duffer1: mobo hardware fault on the first slot was actually my least likely scenario, but you gotta cover the bases anyways in pc troubleshooting
Duffer1: still might not even be a hardware fault hehe
dub: a lot of boards have shit like shared bus for the first pcie x1 and x16 slots
dub: so its one or the other, or bios switchable
Duffer1: or irq conflict
dub: two at x4 or one at x16 etc
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.3401 = 1.0203 BTC [-]
dub: don't assume its faulty before reading mobo spec anyway
ThickAsThieves: dub, yeah the gpu was the next slot
dub: I had trouble getting 5 pcie slots working that turned out ot be a bios switch, run the 3rd x16 slot at x4 livens up the last x1 slot
dub: crazy taiwanese
ThickAsThieves: i really should have known this already from my gpu mining days
ThickAsThieves: dub did you see my comment earlier today about my new speaker setup?
ThickAsThieves: i recall you being into this stuff
dub: must have mised it
dub: should get back into it actually
dub: made nice setup in new houes for my turnies and shit, havent actually used them
dub: you linking or do I need ot read the whole log :)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 6 @ 0.02231001 = 0.1339 BTC [-] {5}
kakobrekla: you got techicks?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 70 @ 0.003 = 0.21 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: technics*
dub: yessir mark 5s
truffles: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2A002Em8Yw skip to 1:17min
kakobrekla: yeah i got mk5 too
kakobrekla: teh standard.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8294 @ 0.00080801 = 6.7016 BTC [+] {2}
dub: got SL3 cheap from my homie at serato
kakobrekla: i bought them like 10 years go
kakobrekla: ago
dub: same
kakobrekla: what setup you got tat?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 740 @ 0.00044 = 0.3256 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 500 @ 0.000431 = 0.2155 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00299999 = 0.15 BTC [-]
truffles: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsM2ZbQtulM lol
ozbot: ROCK-HARD-COCK - YouTube
dub: tat gonna be rocking srs bzns
dub: having heard his shit
Duffer1: with that rack he's got, i'm sure he didn't go budget on the monitors, i bet it sounds pretty good :P
thestringpuller: started from the bottom now we're here
thestringpuller: started from the bottom now the whole fuckin' team is here
thestringpuller: uh uh uh I'm drake
thestringpuller: uh uh
ThickAsThieves: sorry, dub ws afk
ThickAsThieves: i got full setup of neumann monitors and woofer
ThickAsThieves: killer killer killer
truffles: dub u could at least appreciate that cock game
dub: truffles: i made the call not to watch that at work
truffles: work pff
dub: don't want teh gays in security thinking I'm down
truffles: haha
truffles: its a game with a "hard" penis just rolling through like mario
truffles: or sonic
truffles: why r u still at work!
truffles: its way past overtime hrs in the east
dub: its december
thestringpuller: dub works the farms
thestringpuller: listening to that wub wub
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 260 @ 0.00043134 = 0.1121 BTC [+] {2}
thestringpuller: dub dub dub wub wub dub wub
dub: and every project has a unique snowflake trying to ram his shit through before brownout
dub: so dubs don't get to sleep
truffles: hope u party it up
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 398 @ 0.00044001 = 0.1751 BTC [+]
dub: I have three weeks in wine country from the 20th
dub: off grid, no cell coverage
truffles: :)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.341 = 1.705 BTC [+]
truffles: i asked a friend why not take cell "just in case" lol
truffles: ofc i get it now
thestringpuller: dub has miles to go before he sleeps
thestringpuller: cause he has promises to keep
thestringpuller: !ticker h am100
assbot: [HAVELOCK:AM100] 1D: 0.00314120 / 0.00326529 / 0.00337880 (637 shares, 2.07999251 BTC), 7D: 0.00102001 / 0.00305895 / 0.00508899 (30802 shares, 94.22169677 BTC), 30D: 0.00102001 / 0.00447466 / 0.00802006 (165935 shares, 742.50348228 BTC)
truffles: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV2YIUsZSJQ
ozbot: Innomine x Lee Kim - Promise To Keep It - YouTube
thestringpuller: so truffles, i learned the other dy
thestringpuller: day
thestringpuller: that truffles are traded on the black market
thestringpuller: ;;seen pigeons
truffles: k
gribble: pigeons was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 5 days, 11 hours, 29 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: <pigeons> well he was sorry i'm sure
truffles: its just an alias though
dub: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huOtZVPxzT8
ozbot: Bob Marley - Work [05] - YouTube
thestringpuller: www.youtube.com/watch?v=08tYrBCgXlU
thestringpuller: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08tYrBCgXlU
thestringpuller: lol ozbot lag
dub: thestringpuller++
Duffer1: oh man that makes me miss my record player
thestringpuller: Didn't know there were so many Isley Brothers fans in the house.
nubbins`: every home needs a good turntable
Duffer1: i still have all my old vinyl, no record player though hehe
Vexual: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKejQsiHINg
ozbot: Frankie Paul - Work Hard - YouTube
ThickAsThieves: i have Pharcyde - Labcabcalifornia on my turntable
Vexual: ive got lana del ray
Vexual: dont remember playing that
truffles: think she's good link it
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 275 @ 0.00299998 = 0.825 BTC [-] {2}
ThickAsThieves: lana del ray has like 1 good song
ThickAsThieves: if i recall
truffles: summertime sadness?
Vexual: whole mp sounds nice through a needle
Vexual: *lp
Vexual: :)
ThickAsThieves: i suppose i didnt give her a full chance
ThickAsThieves: but thats cuz her rap xover attempt
dub: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48LLdLbAiQg
ozbot: Fatlip - What's Up Fatlip [VIDEO] - YouTube
truffles: dub listens to rap, shocker
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.14999999 BTC [+]
dub: GANSTA yeard
truffles: yeard = nerd*
Vexual: and the loot
nubbins`: i was listening to OM earlier on my turntable
nubbins`: nice music to get stoned & evolve to
Vexual: what om?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34799999 BTC [+]
nubbins`: live conference
nubbins`: two sides, two tracks :D
mircea_popescu: sooo what's new
nubbins`: that and the live jesus lizard album have both been getting some heavy play
deadweasel: i got a new woman.
Vexual: sounds like attempted sabbath or something
truffles: deadweasel with pics?
nubbins`: ah, a bit more doomy
Vexual: and the neo bee guys seem nice apparently
nubbins`: and with more christian iconography
Vexual: sabbathy floydy?
Vexual: greatfuldeady?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10192 @ 0.0008112 = 8.2678 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: nubbins` smokes the blunts?!?!?
nubbins`: nah, not even
thestringpuller: i would have never guessed
nubbins`: Vexual: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-O8eqR-9qMM
thestringpuller: being an artist and all
nubbins`: thestringpuller: never woulda guessed, hey? ;p
nubbins`: Vexual: ffw to 5:30 if you get bored
truffles: dub http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MU0f2V-WX6w
Vexual: it's nice, i might wait antil dark to give it a listen, its noon here
nubbins`: yah, night music
nubbins`: ;;bc,xau
gribble: 1 XAU = 1240.000000000000 USD = 1.01556101556 BTC
nubbins`: so close
kakobrekla: i heard it passed
nubbins`: ;;ticker
kakobrekla: http://bitbet.us/bet/598/1-btc-will-surpass-price-of-1-troy/#c2004
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1223.31724, Best ask: 1224.98, Bid-ask spread: 1.66276, Last trade: 1221.0, 24 hour volume: 17789.40413775, 24 hour low: 1131.72718, 24 hour high: 1240.0, 24 hour vwap: 1201.99894
ozbot: BitBet - 1 BTC will surpass price of 1 Troy Oz of Gold in USD
mircea_popescu: hasn't passed yet afaik, but they kissed once before
kakobrekla: but but teh commentz sais NO
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1224.005, Best ask: 1232.0, Bid-ask spread: 7.99500, Last trade: 1232.0, 24 hour volume: 17845.20159732, 24 hour low: 1131.72718, 24 hour high: 1240.0, 24 hour vwap: 1202.10105
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12800 @ 0.00081181 = 10.3912 BTC [+] {2}
Vexual: i want to see the v v video of um ah danny at this err cornerence
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 119 @ 0.00301 = 0.3582 BTC [+]
Vexual: i shoulkn't joke really, the only public speaking i ever do is when im three sheets to the wind, and i havn't been invited
nubbins`: it's definitely a skill
Vexual: is danny the main guy or the talkie face?
Vexual: there at lease looks like the possiblity of some value in their tech infrastructure already
mircea_popescu: ;;eauth
gribble: (eauth <nick>) -- Initiate authentication for user <nick>. You must have registered a GPG key with the bot for this to work. You will be given a link to a page which contains a one time password encrypted with your key. Decrypt, and use the 'everify' command with it. Your passphrase will expire in 10 minutes.
mircea_popescu: ;;eauth mircea_popescu
gribble: Request successful for user mircea_popescu, hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/8A736F0E2FB7B452
Vexual: logo on the eftpos and shit
mircea_popescu: ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:fd5b35a2d2c684170319ac0b7d6e11bf98998e51958e5964a401066e
gribble: You are now authenticated for user mircea_popescu with key 8A736F0E2FB7B452
Vexual: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhN93rFZuJs
ozbot: Business Time - Flight Of The Conchords (Lyrics) - YouTube
Vexual: i need a business that needs lots of capital so i can ipo like all the cool kids
mircea_popescu: an oil tanker factory.
Vexual: doesnt sound risky enough
mircea_popescu: prolly cost 10 bn to make one.
Duffer1: offer consulting services, fill the prospectus with words like synergize, ipo
Duffer1: risky for who?
asciilifeform: launch satellites. doesn't get much more risky than that.
Vexual: i already do, and my costs are low
asciilifeform: what's the state of the art? 20% failure?
Vexual: that more like it
Vexual: wheres cheapest to launch? im sick of this place
mircea_popescu: seriously, romania launched a fucxking satellite.
mircea_popescu: this shit is not as hard as making asics.
Vexual: nope
Vexual: making a good satellite is harder than getting it up
nubbins`: there's a launch pad in french guyana
nubbins`: nice weather down there
nubbins`: expensive tho
Vexual: a launchpad is just a concrete slab with predictable waether
nubbins`: nod
nubbins`: well i think it's actually a fully-fledged spaceport
nubbins`: whatever that entails
nubbins`: a few vending machines in the lobby, at least
Vexual: google still doing that low orbit free internet for plebs thing?
nubbins`: not sure if joking
Vexual: paid for by the local goat butcher
Vexual: they were planning to have an array across 35deg south or something so they can get africa
Vexual: sending em up with ballons
nubbins`: Vexual: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIw7oeZKpZc
nubbins`: that's *one song*
nubbins`: 63:35
Vexual: sounds like the soundtrack to the road to the place that wolf creek was based on
Vexual: 1000km north of woomera through the desert
Vexual: no greeting but a donkey with hooves growing through its knees, and no pies
Vexual: flee immediately
nubbins`: no vocals until 8:something
nubbins`: the story here is that this band went to their label
nubbins`: "here's our new album"
nubbins`: a single 63-minute track
nubbins`: label says "no, go fuck yourselves"
Vexual: that was the reply when i enquired about pies
thestringpuller: ;;bc,stats
thestringpuller: .d
gribble: Current Blocks: 273123 | Current Difficulty: 7.074082830514966E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 274175 | Next Difficulty In: 1052 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 7 hours, 11 minutes, and 8 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 870647259.088 | Estimated Percent Change: 23.07564
nubbins`: haha
mircea_popescu: so did that stephen guy ever manage to short bitcoin ?
thestringpuller: ;;calc (870647259.088 * .23) + 870647259.088
gribble: 1070896128.68
nubbins`: then it was eventually released on another label chopped into a half dozen tracks
nubbins`: and then 4 years later in its original form
twizt: sup guys
Vexual: you're extra newbie friendly lately mp
nubbins`: ah, stephen didn't seem like he was ready to pull the trigger
nubbins`: hey twizt
mircea_popescu: Vexual i've always been newbie friendly
Duffer1: that gave me a good laugh :P
Duffer1: have you seen your website?
Duffer1: <3
nubbins`: newbs only get confused by shiny things
Vexual: do you still have the wallet of your first transaction mp? remember the date?
twizt: i was curious about something, and was wondering if you guys had any idea. are there legit bitcoin crowdfunding places? like instead of selling shares sell the actual product, like kickstart. i was looking at bitcoin ipos but most of those sites seem to go down fast and they issue shares/bonds with HYIP like returns lol
nubbins`: twizt: i think there's a "bitcoinstarter". usual caveats apply
mircea_popescu: not so far.
nubbins`: nothing i'd feel comfortable sending money to
twizt: im trying to start a hot sauce company
Vexual: what do you wanna fund twista?
Vexual: you havent got $30?
mircea_popescu: mustard and ketchup in the same bottle ?
twizt: lol nah
Duffer1: it's a multi layered barrier because you're dealing with security noobs, securities noobs, crypto currency noobs, and noob traders
twizt: ive actually put serious effort into it
nubbins`: sriracha sauce?!
twizt: nubbins`: better man
mircea_popescu: Duffer1 well i took him to mean verbally.
nubbins`: ;)
nubbins`: GOCHUJANG?!?!
twizt: haha
Duffer1: oh ya i agree then
twizt: id rather sell the sauce than shares ;x
mircea_popescu: so put a website together and sell the sauce.
Vexual: u got the sauce all bottled up?
twizt: i did 25 sample batch..
Vexual: thats $125 dollars right there
twizt: @ a co packer in NYC
nubbins`: what size bottle
nubbins`: cost, flavor, etc?
mircea_popescu: nubbins` elk's vomit. specially engineered for the canadian conoisseur.
Vexual: oooh have they been eating fairy mushrooms?
nubbins`: ah, yes. the first peoples call this majestic animal "wapiti"
twizt: nah its legit. you can whois my domain and get a lot of info about me
twizt: lol
nubbins`: never tried the vomit. have eaten the meat
mircea_popescu: twizt so you got a site, is it selling any ?
nubbins`: have also tried the mushrooms
twizt: mircea_popescu: only to friends and fam so far
nubbins`: fun until they're NO FUN
nubbins`: if you get what i mean
twizt: can't sell retail yet, not ready
Vexual: what do you need money for twista? a run of 1million?
dexX7: https://www.facebook.com/Newegg/posts/10152063129624168 + https://www.facebook.com/TigerDirect/posts/10151765930733639 wow
twizt: nah not even
nubbins`: twizt: you might have some success just hustling in the forums and on reddit
mircea_popescu: speaking of sriracha,
mircea_popescu: http://www.presstelegram.com/environment-and-nature/20131204/sriracha-operations-can-continue-if-it-doesnt-smell-irwindale-says
ozbot: Sriracha hot sauce operations can continue if it doesn’t smell, Irwindale says
twizt: yea it sucks trying to market a product no one has tried before
nubbins`: ah yeah! it was pretty touch-and-go for a while mp
mircea_popescu: twizt practically, search the forum for "mpoe-pr see here"
nubbins`: apparently that's the only factory that still uses fresh chilis
twizt: but people who tried it keep asking for more bottles and i dont have funds to go and make more ;\
twizt: like what would make u guys wanna pay for a hotsauce u never tried before lol
twizt: (market research mode)
Vexual: how old are ya twista?
twizt: 26
Duffer1: oo what kind of sauce
thestringpuller: lol newegg got trolled
thestringpuller: that's awesome
nubbins`: honestly, the flavour and the packaging
thestringpuller: bitcoin bitcoin #bitcoin
Vexual: so i guess the bottles are $10 then?
nubbins`: are what would sway me
twizt: no hold on
nubbins`: twizt: you should get a hundred or so bottles made, and start giving them away to restaurants
Duffer1: twizt hotwings recipe would get me to try it
Vexual: yeah go bulk
nubbins`: huy fong was exclusively a restaurant sauce for years
twizt: i havits about $8 for 16oz jar
nubbins`: and now you see red bottles w/ green caps everywhere
twizt: Duffer1: what do you mean?
nubbins`: 16oz, what's that in real units
nubbins`: ah, 473ml
Vexual: half a kilo
twizt: 16oz mason jars
twizt: its organic ingredients so i get raped in that regard
twizt: if didnt use organic it would be down to about $5 per 16oz
nubbins`: even better, hustle it to vegan restaurants
Duffer1: twizt either part of the packaging or marketing, a good looking recipe would probably move me to buy
twizt: Duffer1: you mean on the sauce itself?
Vexual: i would have thouight inorganic capsicums would be more expensive
Duffer1: ya or website, but i don't even know what kind of sauce we're talking about here
Vexual: benzene aint cheap
twizt: im using vinegar and perservative
asciilifeform: wtf is inorganic capsaicin?
twizt: and shelf life isnt long
twizt: about 30 days
Vexual: semantics
asciilifeform: some equivalent for silicon-based alien life?
twizt: Duffer1: can I PM you and show you my website (i dont want to put it on blast here)
Duffer1: cool i'd like that
nubbins`: hm
nubbins`: if it's got a 30 day shelf life
nubbins`: you don't have NEARLY enough salt in there
nubbins`: hot sauce should be non-perishable
snackman: hey mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know it's been synthetised for like a century.
snackman: why exactly is this necessary:
snackman: "Incoming Bitcoin that doesn't exactly match a quoted sum will be simply kept, reported as profits and distributed to MPEx shareholders."
snackman: found here: http://mpex.co/faq.html
asciilifeform: synthetic, but still organic
nubbins`: snackman: part of using a communal deposit address
twizt: nubbins`: its more like a hot sauce dip, its heady, not water like
nubbins`: ah
twizt: hardy*
asciilifeform: or was this about the other sense of 'organic'
snackman: nubbins`: but it's kind of dangerous, make a typo and loose a couple grand
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform a that's what you meant. well yeah
nubbins`: snackman: well, ya know.
Vexual: newver trust the chemist at the farmers market
nubbins`: best be careful :)
mircea_popescu: snackman if you're gonna make typos use a broker.
snackman: mircea_popescu: are there btc brokers?
asciilifeform: dry clean shop on my street has a sign, no joke: 'we use /only/ organic solvents!'
nubbins`: organic = made from organs
nubbins`: like haggis
mircea_popescu: yes.
Vexual: lol
Vexual: or acetone, im not sure what happened to your suit sir, its all organic
asciilifeform: i suppose if you want your shirts washed in molten sodium, you'll have to go elsewhere.
snackman: mircea_popescu: also, what's up with my 10btc?
mircea_popescu: lol molten sodium. that'll definitely cost more than the suit.
Vexual: premium unleaded + heat = clean
nubbins`: nothing cleans like VOCs and flame!
KRS|gotyawallet: Ah, Japan.. http://i.imgur.com/K74v1U4.jpg
snackman: mircea_popescu: ?
twizt: you guys mentioned getting a buzz on reddit, how does one do that without looking like a complete jackass?
nubbins`: pretty hit and miss
Vexual: thats what fucked up graets flow, a trip to japan
nubbins`: it's luck of the draw, really
nubbins`: twizt: you should probably start local
snackman: mircea_popescu: i see somebody got scared of the psychoanalysis ;)
nubbins`: give samples to restaurants, especially hippie ones, and give samples to local food critics too
nubbins`: don't push it on em like a mope, just say hey, i've got this great organic sauce, try it out and let me know what you think
Vexual: catch the indian and thai and fusion cheps about quarter to 5
twizt: lol
nubbins`: ^ this too
mircea_popescu: dude those legs
nubbins`: no joke
Vexual: u been mp?
mircea_popescu: to japan ? nah.
snackman: mircea_popescu: what's up with those legs?
Vexual: you know they have portable computers now right?
nubbins`: they look like kim kardashian's
nubbins`: i visited japan once, very costly
mircea_popescu: i don't care for their crampy lifestyle.
mircea_popescu: i like roofs over 2.5meters.
Vexual: my old master did it on the cheap in 62, sleeping bag on the railway platform
Vexual: searching for jujo dojos
Vexual: you get adopted
snackman: mircea_popescu: serious and unrealted q, mircea_popescu, what's up with the legs?
twizt: whats mpoe-pr mircea_popescu ?
nubbins`: ask krs, he posted the link
mircea_popescu: well exactly what it says on the tin, the pr for mpoe.
Vexual: japan has no answer
nubbins`: koreans HATE the japanese
nubbins`: full-on hate
mircea_popescu: the women too, or just the men ?
nubbins`: all of them
nubbins`: korean women especially hate japanese
mircea_popescu: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/broken-drug-pipe-in-vagina-576432
ozbot: Hidden Glass Meth Pipe Causes A Bloody Mess | The Smoking Gun
snackman: twizt: mpoe-pr is fucking hot
twizt: i dont even kno what that is, unfortunately
mircea_popescu: twizt listen, bitcoin doesn't work in the way you intend to use it, "i have an idea"
mircea_popescu: nobody cares about your idea, nor does it at all matter.
mircea_popescu: sink the time to learn about bitcoin, which means like a year.
mircea_popescu: then maybe you may have an idea.
snackman: twizt: i would bang the blockchain out of that satochick, if you know what i mean
nubbins`: satochick
nubbins`: groan
snackman: nubbins`: ?
snackman: mircea_popescu: i've been trying to find pictures of mpoe-pr, but failed. could you help a brotha out?
Vexual: got coin?
nubbins`: who needs pictures when you have those fiery words?
nubbins`: i bet she fights when she's drunk
mircea_popescu: hawt sauce.
Vexual: i doubt she dets drunk
Vexual: the faireer sex has a different venacular when delicacies are involved
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: what's a good drunk set you back in romania?
twizt: well its more like a product im trying to market that no one has tried, than an idea. lol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13138 @ 0.00080663 = 10.5975 BTC [-] {2}
nubbins`: dollar-wise
snackman: Vexual: ?
snackman: EWWWW
snackman: is that her?
snackman: http://i33.tinypic.com/5zicgj.jpg
snackman: how the FFF
mircea_popescu: nubbins` i just bought a gallon of tzuika, it's ~110 proof, pure plum juice.
snackman: i DO NOT want to have sexual relationships with that woman
mircea_popescu: it cost me a grand total of,
mircea_popescu: wait for it,
nubbins`: ah, plum booze, +1
mircea_popescu: 3 bitcents
nubbins`: ah, not bad
nubbins`: so essentially you can kill yourself for $10
Vexual: no homo
mircea_popescu: nah, this shit doesn't kill you.
mircea_popescu: but you could get plastered for that, sure.
nubbins`: i dunno, if i drank 500ml of pure ethanol i'd be in sad shape
nubbins`: either way, that's pretty cheap
mircea_popescu: (i did once drink a liter of the stuff in one sitting. walked out)
nubbins`: there's minimum-price legislation here for booze
mircea_popescu: this is quite illegal, bought it from the guy that made it.
mircea_popescu: im sure he didn't pay the excise.
nubbins`: ah, yes indeed
nubbins`: apples are more common for that type of thing here
mircea_popescu: apple stuff is about half price
mircea_popescu: and for good reason
Vexual: can you get good tobacco there?
nubbins`: tastes like boiled down candy
nubbins`: fucks you up
nubbins`: i enjoy drinking large amounts of liquid, so i stick to beer
mircea_popescu: twizt that's fine and all, but you gotta understand, fmcg is a business, the distribution and marketing part is what counts.
mircea_popescu: it never comes down to "who can make the better sauce". it's a business.
nubbins`: nod
nubbins`: i'll likely never taste my favourite sauce
nubbins`: nor hear my favourite band
nubbins`: but im sure they both existed at some point
Vexual: u just got a b.marketing twista
nubbins`: liquors of the world
nubbins`: i had some homemade lemon gin a couple weeks ago
twizt: yea thats my problem.. gotta give away a few grand of merch to get a following
nubbins`: twizt: what size town/city do you live in?
twizt: lol my marketing plan in a nutshell
twizt: nubbins`: about 130k
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2409 @ 0.00011971 = 0.2884 BTC [-] {3}
nubbins`: honestly, it depends on how many years of your life you plan on spending at this
twizt: nubbins`: my plan is to make another large batch (unemployed atm) and go after grocery store chains
snackman: mircea_popescu:
snackman: this chick should do PR for you
snackman: http://www.erinpavlina.com/
ozbot: Erin Pavlina
Vexual: http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs38/f/2008/343/5/3/Vampirella_of_Draculon_by_JoeJusko.jpg
nubbins`: suppose a grocery wants 1000 units a month, can you do that?
mircea_popescu: twizt chains will definitely not shelf you. go after restaurants as someone suggested.
mircea_popescu: preferably immigrant run small affairs.
nubbins`: well, grocery chains here often have a small local section
twizt: nah they will, i just need to work with a food scientist for shelf life expansion
nubbins`: granted, never very large
snackman: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=129544.msg1459524#msg1459524
snackman: no, mp is totall not a scammer
snackman: nu-uh
snackman: not at all
twizt: and they want the organic cert (farm to table crap)
mircea_popescu: so they will except they won't. listen, you gotta be "in" to get there.
mircea_popescu: they don't take walkins
nubbins`: read "EskimoBob", stopped reading
nubbins`: srsly
snackman: LOOOOL https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=129544.msg1480792#msg1480792 ☟︎
snackman: mircea_popescu:
snackman: you lost in court?
twizt: mircea_popescu: actually ez to get into stores, if you have right packaging, etc.
Vexual: chefs hand at the back door at the start of the night
snackman: i'm soooo sueing your arse!
snackman: BAHAHAHA
twizt: and i havent even invested in packaging
snackman: thanks for the fresh impulse
dexX7: speaking of that
dexX7: i'd love to see ROTA 2
nubbins`: snackman: you forgot your article
Vexual: chefs do they buying
mircea_popescu: dexX7 me too.
snackman: nubbins`: why?
snackman: nubbins`: i didn't sue him *YET*
snackman: him/her/it
nubbins`: snackman: no, before "court"
snackman: apparently mircea_popescu likes the trans*gender crowd
snackman: nubbins`: ?
nubbins`: snackman: you forgot your article before "court"
Vexual: fail claims
mircea_popescu: ;;bc,diff
gribble: Error: "bc,diff" is not a valid command.
mircea_popescu: ;;bc,stats
snackman: nubbins`: what the actual fuck are you blabbering
gribble: Current Blocks: 273131 | Current Difficulty: 7.074082830514966E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 274175 | Next Difficulty In: 1044 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 4 hours, 15 minutes, and 37 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 872815197.383 | Estimated Percent Change: 23.3821
nubbins`: snackman: you didn't use an article before the noun
snackman: nubbins`: https://www.google.com/search?q=sue+in+court do you see any article in front of court?
nubbins`: well, no, in that case, the definite article is implied
snackman: pathetic gypsy scum tryina correct my ingrish wtf?
snackman: nubbins`: DUDE are you serious?
nubbins`: leel
snackman: nubbins`: http://christianity.about.com/b/2012/06/01/should-christians-sue-in-court.htm
nubbins`: the link you posted says he lost in *a* court
snackman: nubbins`: where are you from?
snackman: nubbins`: because this is seriously basic english
nubbins`: the internet!!
ThickAsThieves: hot sauce that expires?!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20100 @ 0.00080516 = 16.1837 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves you know even habaneros mold.
ThickAsThieves: not in vinegar
ThickAsThieves: does it contain bacteria from volcanoes for flavor?
nubbins`: heh, ground pumice
Vexual: ive got some in the boat in a vegemite jar i made, 10 years old, lid hasnt poped yet
nubbins`: that'd provide some heat
mike_c: nubbins speaks canadien
Vexual: wouldnt eat it unless scurvy tho
nubbins`: quite well
nubbins`: although i do drop the occasional 'u'
mircea_popescu: actually... obsydian jars...
ThickAsThieves: ;;nethash
gribble: 6400549.04237
ThickAsThieves: hasnt changed in two days
Vexual: science probability model is broken, everyone knows that
mircea_popescu: it's not going to change as long as the diff isn't changing
Vexual: want an android app to wake you up TAT?
ThickAsThieves: for?
ThickAsThieves: i dont use alarms
Vexual: im teasing
ThickAsThieves: what a horrible way to start your day
Vexual: you lose, you lose
unbalanced: Is the last commentor at http://bitbet.us/bet/598/1-btc-will-surpass-price-of-1-troy/ right? I know it didn't make it back on the 1st but it looks like they did cross a couple of hours ago.
unbalanced: Time zones and really really bad Kitco charts make it a little hard to tell
Vexual: im close to the dateline, so im not allowed to bet
unbalanced: A moment in history, bitfolk.
mircea_popescu: unbalanced quite possiblty it did cross
unbalanced: snackman there might still be time you should totally go for it
mircea_popescu: prolly have a result tomorrow.
snackman: unbalanced: dudeee i'm so getting in
unbalanced: I believe you
snackman: unbalanced: ok i'm gonna bet no here because the gold value is resistance
snackman: i'm into technical analysis now
Vexual: want me to put it on? i can do it yesterday
unbalanced: Picking up pennies in front of a steamroller
Vexual: but it will take me about 3 weeks to get to fiji, you'll have to pay expoenses
ThickAsThieves: it looks like it did cross
unbalanced: snackman, just in case you're not joking, I was: It. Already. Happened.
snackman: WTF
snackman: HOW
snackman: NOOOOO
Vexual: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPRzrjwetX0 we gon smoke an ounce to this
ozbot: Snoop Doggy Dogg - Gin & Juice. With Lyrics - YouTube
snackman: GUYS
ThickAsThieves: The Chronic by Dr. Dre is seriously overrated. There, I said it.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34001001 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.12500001 BTC [-]
nubbins`: http://bitbet.us/bet/355/us-federal-minimum-wage-will-be-raised-above/
ozbot: BitBet - US Federal Minimum Wage will be raised above $7.25 by the end of 2013
nubbins`: ah, what's the us federal minimum wage right now?
snackman: this is getting more and more hilarious by the second
ThickAsThieves: I have no secondary education, well, none that I paid for.
nubbins`: lel
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 63 @ 0.00320045 = 0.2016 BTC [-] {4}
nubbins`: don't confuse education with intelligence
Vexual: theyre almost inversly proportional by accepted definitions
unbalanced: nubbins: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/04/obama-minimum-wage-increase-protests
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.02232 = 0.1116 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: I bet against that one too
ThickAsThieves: http://bitbet.us/bet/355/us-federal-minimum-wage-will-be-raised-above/
ozbot: BitBet - US Federal Minimum Wage will be raised above $7.25 by the end of 2013
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 64 @ 0.0030165 = 0.1931 BTC [+]
Vexual: aka meth futures
unbalanced: I don't see it happening before New Year's Eve (min wage)
nubbins`: a rise in min wage is annoying for big companies, dangerous for small companies
mircea_popescu: sooo... -18 F for denver tonight
Vexual: fuck
nubbins`: imagine if your biggest expense went up by 39%!
nubbins`: oh wow, that's cold
ThickAsThieves: thats the only thing shitty about Colorado, the weather can kill you in so many ways
Vexual: i havent seen <+18c for a year
mircea_popescu: nubbins` people who predominantly pay minimum wage mostly use undocumented illegals anyway
snackman: http://about.me/sam.weinrott please like my profile
Vexual: so if you fall asleep coming home fromt the pub u die?
ThickAsThieves: and small businesses that only pay minimum wage go out of business eventually anywya
unbalanced: Raising the min wage hurts the least skilled workers... fewer opportunities to work if employers are banned from paying what they're worth.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=mircea_popescu&sign=ANY&type=RECV take that!
nubbins`: well, i mean, it's 7.25 now, suppose you're paying everyone 9.25
Vexual: show us something trustless bitcoiner
nubbins`: and the min wage goes up to 10.10
nubbins`: so you either give them a raise to min wage and be an asshole, or raise them to, say, 12.10
ThickAsThieves: so "fair" is the problem?
nubbins`: oh, no
Vexual: id be getting a license and pumping the photo active radiation if i was in america
mircea_popescu: nubbins` you're closing shop anyway, becauyse you can't afford obamacare.
unbalanced: If washing the floors say isn't worth paying someone $10/hr to do, then people won't get hired to do that. (Or far fewer people will as the floors will get washed less often.)
nubbins`: just making the point that a raise in minimum wage generally means a raise in non-minimum wage
unbalanced: agreed
nubbins`: so even if you're not one of these soon-to-be-out-of-business places paying min wage
nubbins`: you're taking the same hit in the pocketbook
Vexual: i jest mp, in a world of masturbators, you innovated
ThickAsThieves: they arent forcing you to give everyone a raise
unbalanced: And it reduces the employement opportunities for the least-skilled workers, the ones it's supposed to help.
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: at 7.25/hr, i'm not sure how anybody's affording anything
mircea_popescu: unbalanced they got robots now.
ThickAsThieves: 7.25 costs the US more than 10
nubbins`: nod
nubbins`: ^^
nubbins`: can we underline that?
unbalanced: where "washing the floors" = "insert some min wage job here"
thestringpuller: lol
Vexual: so you can buy a house in detroit for about a months labour on minimum wage?
mircea_popescu: Vexual no, but you can buy it for about twenny bjs
Vexual: that place will quickly learn to innovate again
nubbins`: mad max style
Duffer1: hehe
Vexual: thats not a bad idea
unbalanced: nubbins should you save BTC for the 1B difficulty bet though?
nubbins`: well, i mean
Vexual: ratters outta detroit
nubbins`: they've got all the cars
ThickAsThieves: after every unpaid vendor to the city folds and gangs up with Mel Gibson
nubbins`: unbalanced: me personally, or me in general?
nubbins`: sorry, we don't have the words in english ;(
Vexual: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2DJwMcVj_w
ozbot: my model A roadster hot rod - YouTube
nubbins`: although you hear some people say "ye" for the plural of you
ThickAsThieves: youtube links are like the most unappealing links to me
Vexual: they just need someone who can read the design criteria and provide rice
unbalanced: I mean several bets end around the end ot the month
nubbins`: heh
unbalanced: The diff one pays better than the others
nubbins`: log.bitcoin-assets.com links for me
unbalanced: And ends sooner
mircea_popescu: so ? they're prepaid
Vexual: sorry TAT, i have to authenticate myself somehow
ThickAsThieves: heh
unbalanced: If you're looking at where to put new bets
nubbins`: i'm not ;/
ThickAsThieves: keep betting on Yes so I can take your money
Vexual: get a case of whisky and relex for a few weeks
mircea_popescu: if the diff ends up 9999999666 or some shit,
Vexual: buy some records and a sweet bag of hooter
unbalanced: ThickAsThieves, quoting pancakke's smug Costanza avatar: Do you even mine?
unbalanced: These nailbiters are exciting to watch.
mircea_popescu: he doesn;'t, which is why he's on no. the miners are on yes.
unbalanced: I know, I just wanted to quote that quote, I laugh every time I see it.
Vexual: i think graet and yuko are hocked to the nines, thats why diff stay same
unbalanced: It was a stretch here, sure.
mircea_popescu: anyway, that's all for me. take it ezzy all.
unbalanced: g'night
ThickAsThieves: can anyone answer this,
ThickAsThieves: has cex.io ever proven it hashes?
Vexual: no
Vexual: i was on the same thought track
ThickAsThieves: so no one has ever even asked ghash.io or bitfury if they are connected?
ThickAsThieves: is this not obvious?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 25 @ 0.02498792 = 0.6247 BTC [+] {3}
Vexual: pattern learning
Duffer1: i was under the impression they were some kind of private pool. labcoin used them
dexX7: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=318010.0 "CEX.IO works with a private mining pool GHash.IO. It supplies the commodity exchange with GHS from authorised partners, who secure a constant maintenance of GHS. GHash.IO uses the PPLNS payout system, where rewards are distributed among shares in a window, starting with the last share submitted and going backwards up to some number N of shares."
ozbot: ***CEX.IO Cloud mining official page***
Vexual: its more likely that they are real hashes
Vexual: but the separation...
ThickAsThieves: dexx7 wtf does that even say
Vexual: even the price is outrageous
dexX7: i read it as "we at cex.io sell the hashrate from ghash.io"
ThickAsThieves: yeah i still dont see proof
Vexual: well u cant read
dexX7: :D
ThickAsThieves: ghash.io is run by bitfury, yes?
Vexual: i forget, but i think the guy isnt right in there
Vexual: if its real its a cool sysytem, but you're right, its far from proven
dexX7: cex and ghash share the same logins
Vexual: he can make the market in any case
Vexual: real or no
ThickAsThieves: http://www.ip-adress.com/whois/ghash.io
ThickAsThieves: they are indeed connected
ThickAsThieves: so do we know any reputable people that use ghash?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10800 @ 0.00010007 = 1.0808 BTC [-] {3}
ThickAsThieves: do they sign blocks
dexX7: afaik no
ThickAsThieves: lol
ThickAsThieves: srsly?
snackman: i mine with ghash
snackman: why?
ThickAsThieves: shut up
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34001 BTC [-]
snackman: i'm dead serious
snackman: i just got a jupiter monday
ThickAsThieves: ;;ud repurable
snackman: what do you want as proof?
gribble: Google found nothing.
ThickAsThieves: ;;ud reputable
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=reputable | ... reputable; Reputant · reputate · reputation · Reputation Architect · Reputation Armor · Reputation arsonist · reputation dysmorphia · Reputation Management ...
ozbot: Urban Dictionary: reputable
snackman: ;;ud gypsy
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gypsy | Fucking scum of the earth (not the traditional gypsies, but the cunts found all over the United Kingdom.) I used to lodge in a cottage in a small v...
ozbot: Urban Dictionary: gypsy
dexX7: https://blockchain.info/blocks/GHash.IO
ozbot: Blocks mined on
Vexual: so they took friedcats catchcry of deployment vectors, and did it better
nubbins`: ;;ud article
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=article | Articles AR-tuh-kleez n. The Greek god who protects all paper and printed documents stored within the Clouds around Mt. Olympus.
ozbot: Urban Dictionary: article
ThickAsThieves: ok so it's for real then
nubbins`: hm
ThickAsThieves: case closed
dexX7: https://blockchain.info/address/1CjPR7Z5ZSyWk6WtXvSFgkptmpoi4UM9BC < this is the incoming address for ghash
ozbot: Bitcoin Address 1CjPR7Z5ZSyWk6WtXvSFgkptmpoi4UM9BC
dexX7: well
dexX7: it's tagged as ghash
dexX7: that's all
snackman: wow, 90mill €
ThickAsThieves: so what angle makes it possibly not legit?
dexX7: but they are responsible for about 25 % of mined blocks
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10900 @ 0.00009255 = 1.0088 BTC [-] {9}
Vexual: market making TAT
Vexual: they can provide the hashes but they neednt
ThickAsThieves: hmm
dexX7: i see no flaw. why are you asking in the first place?
ThickAsThieves: cuz i dont follow bitfury, and thus assumed cex.io was a scam when first released
ThickAsThieves: and the topic has come up a few time slately
ThickAsThieves: so i wanted to know for sure
dexX7: ah okayx
Vexual: they keep it on the dlo for sure
Vexual: but fuck if they not smahing blocks
ThickAsThieves: indeed
Vexual: people talk about intel and whatnot getting into minging
snackman: ThickAsThieves: you guys need to stop projecting
snackman: just because you are scammers, doesn't mean everybody else is trying to scam as well
Vexual: i don't see it happening
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4000 @ 0.00008155 = 0.3262 BTC [-] {15}
ThickAsThieves: i could see a fringe tech co doing it
ThickAsThieves: like ASUS
Vexual: coint has the skills
Vexual: but im thinking friedcats feb chips might just own shit
Vexual: that cat got a taste of the top
nubbins`: ah, i dunno
Vexual: if theyre amd good, everyone willl buy them
ThickAsThieves: i think mining going more private and centralized will already be happening by then
Vexual: u mean pools owning?
ThickAsThieves: this selling of cubes to Joe SixSatoshi cant last
Vexual: no, cat will have to come with real prices
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 32 @ 0.00320001 = 0.1024 BTC [-]
Vexual: i think he knows that
ThickAsThieves: i mean where the nethash will start violently increasing and we wont even have a clue who it is
Vexual: yeah, i could have a custom chip ouit and you wouldnt know
Vexual: but wouldnt i be seeling them for more than they can ever possibly make?
ThickAsThieves: well you'd be selling chips, yeah
ThickAsThieves: its the next stage
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1890 @ 0.00007407 = 0.14 BTC [-] {7}
ThickAsThieves: first scalp the small guys
Vexual: you affiliated with nay particular pool tat?
ThickAsThieves: nope
Vexual: u thinkl tthat will be a thing?
ThickAsThieves: i just info-mine to make trades
Vexual: yah
Vexual: me too, smaller scale
Vexual: minings always gonna be a thing, even when people forget about the exchange arte
dexX7: forget about the exchange rate?
bloctoc: ;;seen mircea_popescu
gribble: mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 22 minutes and 23 seconds ago: <mircea_popescu> anyway, that's all for me. take it ezzy all.
ThickAsThieves: when its not volatile anymore
ThickAsThieves: or much less so
ThickAsThieves: btc kissing gold again
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1228.5, Best ask: 1237.985, Bid-ask spread: 9.48500, Last trade: 1228.01001, 24 hour volume: 17879.86454160, 24 hour low: 1131.72718, 24 hour high: 1240.0, 24 hour vwap: 1206.44566
nubbins`: ;;bc,xau
gribble: 1 XAU = 1240.700000000000 USD = 1.002180937 BTC
nubbins`: :o
dexX7: ah. :D
bloctoc: are there any places to buy options besides mpex? mpex looks empty today
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 34 @ 0.0032 = 0.1088 BTC [-] {4}
ThickAsThieves: none that i'd refer you to
bloctoc: would you refer anyone to mpex?
ThickAsThieves: yes, with a disclaimer about the premium costs
ThickAsThieves: and a disclaimer about MP being no joke when it comes to rules
Vexual: i hate it when busniess men stick to the contract
ThickAsThieves: hehe
bloctoc: do you happen to know where the offers went today? I was trying to get some prices together for a model, and everything's alls gone
ThickAsThieves: the data source for spot price is down
unbalanced: When bitcoincharts goes down the quotes can't be calculated.
Vexual: its an iq test
unbalanced: (Is that the source still or am I out of date?)
ThickAsThieves: i think it is
ThickAsThieves: cuz they said they upgraded
bloctoc: ahhh, thanks.
ThickAsThieves: lotta good it did
unbalanced: bloctoc: The 24hr USD VWAP (Volume Weighted Average Price) on http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/currencies/ is part of the option valuation math.
bloctoc: cool, I'll go grab a calculator.
ThickAsThieves: well you are missing the bot algo
ThickAsThieves: so good luck
unbalanced: But if we can see that page I'd think the bot would be quoting so maybe some other sources are involved too these days. I've been out of touch between chart tops.
unbalanced: *Part Tops = what drunk people call Pop Tarts
Vexual: sorry tat
Vexual: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdnYzIxQUWE
ozbot: Beastie Boys - Don't Play no Game That I Can't Win - YouTube
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.3468 = 1.0404 BTC [+] {3}
nubbins`: music links, i'll occasionally click
nubbins`: general youtube links, rarely
Vexual: hit me nubs
nubbins`: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-o5TRmiDIo
ozbot: Battles | Wall Street | A Take Away Show - YouTube
nubbins`: filmed in paris city hall
Vexual: im scared
Vexual: wait i thought it was the metro
nubbins`: who knows? the something anyway
Vexual: i was about to go upstairs and buy some catacombs porn
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 133 @ 0.0029101 = 0.387 BTC [-] {4}
KRS|gotyawallet: vexual
KRS|gotyawallet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9meN8MCYfI
ozbot: Nelly - E.I. - Lyrics - YouTube
Vexual: sup slut
KRS|gotyawallet: somethin to fuck with ya eardrum
Vexual: hahah
KRS|gotyawallet: just got done blasting it..back on my grind tonight..aint stoppin til the morning
Vexual: cant do it
nubbins`: here's something else you can't do
KRS|gotyawallet: ok im getting to know what you dig
nubbins`: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UH0ESZzIxMI
ozbot: The Jesus Lizard - Club - YouTube
nubbins`: ^ been listening to this on vinyl all week
gecko_x2: jesus christ
KRS|gotyawallet: wow vinyl..some say that delivers the most fidelity
nubbins`: feels like your ears are being tickled
nubbins`: they put a lot more effort into mastering for vinyl
Vexual: some do
Vexual: my record player cost $12, when i upgrade, im sitting on a gold mine
nubbins`: jesus lizard had a bunch of records produced by steve albini
nubbins`: you can bet they were mastered best for vinyl ;)
KRS|gotyawallet: this kind of reminds me of early the breeders or something
KRS|gotyawallet: punk
Vexual: anyone tried makerbot records yet?
KRS|gotyawallet: ?
nubbins`: krs, check out the albums "goat" and "down" by these guys if you like it so far
KRS|gotyawallet: ok
KRS|gotyawallet: the associate?
Vexual: press print and get industrial noise
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34799999 BTC [+]
nubbins`: ah, ?
KRS|gotyawallet: im digging song 1 of goat
Vexual: well if you printed a record with a makerbot, all the tracks would be 2mm apart
nubbins`: goat's a great album
nubbins`: see the cover art?
KRS|gotyawallet: yea
nubbins`: actually not flames :0
KRS|gotyawallet: they have a grunge feel which i like a lot
nubbins`: look closer
KRS|gotyawallet: hah i see a tit
KRS|gotyawallet: woman made out of flames neat..didnt notice it
nubbins`: nod
nubbins`: this is from 1991
KRS|gotyawallet: ya grunge era
KRS|gotyawallet: they seem like a group that would open for soundgarden.. The group Soundgarden is like one of my all time fav's..ever listen to them?
nubbins`: listened to soundgarden a lot in my younger years
nubbins`: saw em a couple of years ago in chicago
KRS|gotyawallet: soundgarden reminds me of me in my 20's street racing my 5.0 mustang with nitrous and shit..amazing i came out of that period alive.
KRS|gotyawallet: some of my friends didnt and some are still dealing with their acid trips
KRS|gotyawallet: im gonna have to remember this album i like it thanks
nubbins`: yah, worth many listens
KRS|gotyawallet: make me want to listen to badmotorfinger
Vexual: what?
nubbins`: Vexual: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhHwuPNA-j4
Vexual: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4b3MBkOx5k
Vexual: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TehFZ38kt6o
ozbot: Thin Lizzy-Whiskey in the jar - YouTube
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2004 @ 0.000075 = 0.1503 BTC [+] {2}
Vexual: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fLR3FRaFsQ
ozbot: Oasis - Some Might Say - Official Video - YouTube
KRS|gotyawallet: Oasis- good group
KRS|gotyawallet: I love it, play Eric Clapton - Cocaine on you tube.. an ad displays a link that reads "Buy Cocaine on iTunes"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.0030129 = 0.9039 BTC [+] {3}
Vexual: youll get an ad for an ipod
nubbins`: re: cocaine
nubbins`: http://somehavechanged.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/george_harrison_-_cloud_nine-front.jpg
nubbins`: ^
Vexual: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R044sleOW6I
ozbot: Ram Jam - Black Betty 1977 - YouTube
nubbins`: nite
Vexual: wait prog rock is coming up
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.34799994 = 2.784 BTC [-] {3}
Vexual: voila prg rock
Vexual: heres a clip for those that prefer skaters givin lip than kittens
Vexual: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xot0reBp2ec
ozbot: Ollie the Cat's Super Bowl 46 Prediction (Cat predicts Superbowl 2012) - YouTube
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.14999999 BTC [+]
Vexual: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7t7yCA5XCZk
ozbot: Snoop Dogg - 03 Crazy - Blue Carpet Treatment - YouTube
KRS|gotyawallet: i listen to this sometimes when im deep in thought or trading
KRS|gotyawallet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ukixviy1Wk
ozbot: Mams - You Can Fly - YouTube
Vexual: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2VBcymnDC0
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvd71HyoNbk
ozbot: LEE SCRATCH PERRY e MAD PROFESSOR Mystic Warrior + Mystic Warrior Dub 1989 - YouTube
KRS|gotyawallet: badass lambo but anyone who knows anything about engines knows you dont rev it as soon as it starts, gotta let oil get up above the heads and what not
Vexual: never se em run, theyre like comets
Vexual: not much forums
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7850 @ 0.00080462 = 6.3163 BTC [-]
Vexual: mix it in dancehall people
Vexual: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ED31_wRIGYg
ozbot: Classic VTEC Mini Cooper Beats Camero SS - YouTube
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 22 @ 0.14074795 = 3.0965 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.13551 = 0.542 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1495 @ 0.00286784 = 4.2874 BTC [-] {9}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 600 @ 0.00270986 = 1.6259 BTC [-] {11}
KRS|gotyawallet: This Lee Perry joint is good
KRS|gotyawallet: Made me think of this
KRS|gotyawallet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJVfPU87hws
ozbot: Buju banton murderer - YouTube
Vexual: are google ahead of thge curve or average?
Vexual: how do you answer more questions at once with less ears?
Vexual: 5 chains
KRS|gotyawallet: i dun get it
Vexual: i chain is just one stream of data
KRS|gotyawallet: ok
Vexual: 2chains is dna
KRS|gotyawallet: double helix
Vexual: 5 chains is dna*human conciousness
KRS|gotyawallet: ah ok
KRS|gotyawallet: i didnt do enough acid yet to get there
KRS|gotyawallet: im close to that level of understanding though i dig
KRS|gotyawallet: i've been freed
Vexual: well i consider that peer reviewd
KRS|gotyawallet: cool
Vexual: id like to add the ga*pig bill
Vexual: hmm, on seconf thought
Vexual: theres not much evidence of any of that bullshit
KRS|gotyawallet: do you know what i mean by 'freed'
Vexual: ill just copy these photoshop macros into spss..
KRS|gotyawallet: having been living in the framework that is presented to us and then understanding some things to achieve a higher level of conciousness and understanding
KRS|gotyawallet: not everyone makes it out
KRS|gotyawallet: sometimes referred to as lemmings
Vexual: yeah and comets
KRS|gotyawallet: a lot of drugs can get you there if intelligence doesnt..in my case it was good strong weed...others have used acid
Vexual: but have you ever SEEN a comet?
KRS|gotyawallet: yes it was hard to see
KRS|gotyawallet: haley's (sp?) comet back in the 80's
KRS|gotyawallet: whats that got to do with what i was talking about? also- some say comets seeded the universe with life
Vexual: yes well THAT one was in the newspaper, but..
KRS|gotyawallet: i saw a satellite burn up in our atmosphere the other night it was amazing
Vexual: when you see one unexpectedly you use caps
Vexual: a satllite is 1m long
Vexual: when a big space rock hits the air, thats the shit
KRS|gotyawallet: fo sho...love that one that "hit" russia..although it didnt hit ground
Vexual: once a year touchdown? thats an asteroid belt babby!
KRS|gotyawallet: ever see videos from that
KRS|gotyawallet: my bad it wasnt a satellite i saw, it was the space-x rocket taking off
Vexual: watchign satellites if fun, but its the organic space shit you really wanna see
KRS|gotyawallet: yeah..its fun on a clear night to see how fast them satellites are going
KRS|gotyawallet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYqh6_GLwU4
ozbot: Tasmin Archer - Sleeping Satellite (Single Version 1992) - YouTube
Vexual: now if you had a radr array in orbit that could see a long way in 360, thatd pay
Vexual: ir 2pir/infinity cubed
Vexual: a perfect sine wave on every plane.
Vexual: cant be dont
Vexual: ice nad rock spin differently
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18068 @ 0.00080296 = 14.5079 BTC [-] {2}
Vexual: good driver good sensor, 1au out
Vexual: youd need a computer like prism to record all the inputs
Vexual: yeah it pretty much boils down to looking for the reflection from the sun
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7550 @ 0.00080731 = 6.0952 BTC [+]
KRS|gotyawallet: i see you know a thing or two about physics
KRS|gotyawallet: are you an engineer?
KRS|gotyawallet: are are talking about spectral analysis?
KRS|gotyawallet: with a laser
Vexual: nope i just sell trust companies
Vexual: which are really just a priavte key with 1mbtc
KRS|gotyawallet: crazy that you know this stuff too
Vexual: i did an ipo for a phone bookj and a computer and a maserati
KRS|gotyawallet: haha thats awesome..a friend of mine used to trade securities and told me some good stories..a lot of them do coke
KRS|gotyawallet: i was mentioned on the management team for a $5BB ipo for submarine fiber optic cable..but it floundered.
Vexual: lol should had nemo on the case
KRS|gotyawallet: hah here it is http://www.fiberopticsonline.com/doc/nmdg-exec-reveals-strategy-for-5-billion-glob-0001
Vexual: theres money in submarine cable to be sure
KRS|gotyawallet: you better believe
Vexual: cunts need utube
KRS|gotyawallet: as an engineer i spec'd out a lot of the equipment and direcly showed them how we could increase density for increased capacity and a better financial forecast
Vexual: buy more shit
KRS|gotyawallet: they didnt deserve me =D
Vexual: ?
KRS|gotyawallet: no actually they spec'd out more expensive shit and i showed them the lucent models that increases wavelength density by using better multiplexors that were cheaper
KRS|gotyawallet: and then came the broadband piece that added another hundred million or so in certain markets
KRS|gotyawallet: i was still in college
KRS|gotyawallet: i still "lived the life" so to speak with many of the execs
KRS|gotyawallet: good times
KRS|gotyawallet: "We're trying to get to 2.5 terabits or even higher [per cable],"
Vexual: i would have siad you were puffing muffins
KRS|gotyawallet: haha
Vexual: solder the yellow wire to pin 3 for me
KRS|gotyawallet: i know all that shit..dense wave division multiplexing
KRS|gotyawallet: its ez
Vexual: you're tripping
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 345 @ 0.002914 = 1.0053 BTC [-]
Vexual: upper management for you
Vexual: if off to look for comets
KRS|gotyawallet: heh ok have fun
KRS|gotyawallet: not a manager, im just an engineer
KRS|gotyawallet: eh- how bad is it if financial institutions in China are being banned for dealing in bitcoin
KRS|gotyawallet: Bloomberg..
KRS|gotyawallet: Breaking News
KRS|gotyawallet: China PBOC Bans Financial Companies From Bitcoin Transactions
dexX7: uh oh
dexX7: that's not good?
Namworld: link?
dexX7: strange though in context of an earlier statement: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1r6rup/chinas_central_bank_peoples_bank_of_china_deputy/
dexX7: Namworld: http://www.bloomberg.com/
KRS|gotyawallet: http://www.fxstreet.com/news/fxbeat/article.aspx?storyid=3201a1a7-d13e-4e46-a664-93847d67bbd6
ozbot: China's PBOC: Bitcoin isn't currency with real meaning
KRS|gotyawallet: something tells me this isnt good at all
KRS|gotyawallet: might lose 30% market price over this
KRS|gotyawallet: they gonna dump!
Duffer1: ya wow
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9797 @ 0.00080747 = 7.9108 BTC [+] {2}
Namworld: I don't see the ban...
KRS|gotyawallet: Namworld huh?
Duffer1: all i see is a paywall :/
KRS|gotyawallet: and you dont see them dumping over this?
dexX7: oh, it's gone from bloomberg.com
KRS|gotyawallet: paywall like what we have in the U.S.?
dexX7: there was a note on the top
Duffer1: paywall meaning i couldn't access the article you linked :P
KRS|gotyawallet: damn
Namworld: No, I mean there's no notice of any ban anywhere
dexX7: http://i.imgur.com/JImF8Vw.png mirror
KRS|gotyawallet: bloomberg had a "Breaking News" note
Namworld: That looks half-assed...
Duffer1: hmm
KRS|gotyawallet: China better not fuck this up for us
KRS|gotyawallet: front page of bloomberg had a note that said "Breaking News: China bans financial institutions from dealing in bitcoin"
KRS|gotyawallet: or something similar
dexX7: yea i saw it
dexX7: what exactly means "pdoc bans financial institutions from bitcoin transactions"?
chetty: PBOC:Public free to participate but they bear risks
KRS|gotyawallet: sounds like they dont want their financial institutions failing because of it
KRS|gotyawallet: they are sensitive about their currency
dexX7: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pbc.gov.cn%2Fpublish%2Fgoutongjiaoliu%2F524%2F2013%2F20131205153156832222251%2F20131205153156832222251_.html&sandbox=1
dexX7: original: http://www.pbc.gov.cn/publish/goutongjiaoliu/524/2013/20131205153156832222251/20131205153156832222251_.html
Duffer1: such as not having sex with mandatory legal tender currency property
Duffer1: ?
Duffer1: oh snap that's real
Duffer1: good find dexx7
dexX7: cya @ single digits :(
KRS|gotyawallet: o shit
dexX7: http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/12/05/china-bitcoin-idUSB9N0IQ02220131205
ozbot: China central bank warns banks against use of bitcoin
dexX7: what is unclear to me: do they suggest not to use bitcoin or do they prohibit it?
Duffer1: "At this stage, the financial institutions and payment institutions are not allowed to Bitcoin price for the product or service, may not be sold or traded as a central counterparty bitcoin"
Duffer1: hard to decipher that sentence
dexX7: the whole thing is hard to decipher for me :D
dexX7: is could mean "our banks are not allowed to price products in bitcoin"
dexX7: or "every company"
KRS|gotyawallet: this is bananas
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 73 @ 0.0030025 = 0.2192 BTC [+]
dexX7: LOL those fucks
dexX7: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1s5e2i/bitcoin_crashing_due_to_mtgox_hack/
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34101001 BTC [-]
Namworld: "such as not having sex with mandatory legal tender currency property"
Namworld: Having sex with non-legal tender is dangerous. You could catch non-patriotism and other very nasty un-national diseases. Support the nation!
Namworld: However...
Namworld: "However, Bitcoin transaction as a commodity trading behavior on the Internet, ordinary people have the freedom to participate in the premise own risk."
Namworld: Chinese people are free to store value into Bitcoin it seems to say, at their own risk.
Namworld: So nothing changed...
Namworld: Needs better translation than google...
Duffer1: right but it always appears to say that businesses are warned against accepting it
Duffer1: always = also
KRS-: yeah they can jerk off with it without fiat
dexX7: well btcchina is crashing
KRS-: of course
dexX7: so it must be bad
KRS-: ya think
KRS-: =D
KRS-: Cheap Chinese coin get it while its hot!
KRS-: ;;bids 1000
gribble: There are currently 3452.1426 bitcoins demanded at or over 1000.0 USD, worth 3555744.46885 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.1959 seconds
KRS-: christ a lot of people are gonna buy high
dexX7: ;;goxlag
Namworld: Fuck, btcchina at 794 USD?
gribble: MtGox lag is 1129.882129 seconds. During this time, light travels 2.26427113573 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Ceres (in the main asteroid belt) (2.77 AU).
Namworld: Oh, must be why gox is still so high
dexX7: not sure.. last price i have is 6002 cny
dexX7: but seems like the ticker is dead
Namworld: mine shows 4839.58
dexX7: wtf
Namworld: Where are you looking?
dexX7: holy shit
dexX7: bitcoinwisdom and bitcoinity
dexX7: but i think you are right
dexX7: www.btcchina.com
dexX7: ¥4,521.13 - ¥7,050.00 价格范围
Duffer1: is there a clarkmoody's for btcchina?
dexX7: http://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/btcchina/btccny
ozbot: BTCChina BTC/CNY Charts - BitcoinWisdom
dexX7: but there is no new data..
Duffer1: oh nice i didn't realize btcw offered that
Duffer1: ah i see
KRS-: anyone have experience with this?? this could take a while? or should I ready my positions now?
Duffer1: looks like it's already rallying on btcchina, back up to 5900
kyle_torpey: its an irrational swing so who knows
dexX7: <cdg> LTC/CNY went from 279 to 30
kyle_torpey: lol
Namworld: LTC/CNY no market depth
dexX7: hehe yea
dexX7: ;;goxlag
gribble: Error: Problem retrieving gox lag. Try again later.
dexX7: lol
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 197 @ 0.0030025 = 0.5915 BTC [+]
KRS-: ;;bids 1065
gribble: There are currently 0.06 bitcoins demanded at or over 1065.0 USD, worth 64.3540146 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0697 seconds
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 135 @ 0.0030159 = 0.4071 BTC [+]
jurov`: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 273170 | Current Difficulty: 7.074082830514966E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 274175 | Next Difficulty In: 1005 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 3 hours, 4 minutes, and 23 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 868366812.109 | Estimated Percent Change: 22.75327
KRS|gotyawallet: how significant is this for bitcoin in general?
KRS|gotyawallet: im worried other governments will follow
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 53 @ 0.33339714 = 17.67 BTC [-] {15}
jurov`: KRS|gotyawallet: wait for decent translation first
KRS|gotyawallet: right
dexX7: ;;goxlag
gribble: MtGox lag is 20464018.5412 seconds. During this time, light travels 41009.6640301 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to heliopause (out of the solar system!) (100 AU).
dexX7: here is something new: http://finance.ifeng.com/a/20131205/11223093_0.shtml reddit says "it's good"..
dexX7: oh wait, it's the same text, sorry
dexX7: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1s5ckc/first_official_document_from_chinese_government/cdu381s
ozbot: furfighter comments on First OFFICIAL document from Chinese government (People's Back of China) abou
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2332 @ 0.00080662 = 1.881 BTC [-]
KRS|gotyawallet: if i do really well off this I'm going to go get FUCKED UP at the strip club. Bet that.
KRS|gotyawallet: might take 1 or 2 home with me
KRS|gotyawallet: Gox $914
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 38 @ 0.00301404 = 0.1145 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19850 @ 0.00080683 = 16.0156 BTC [+] {2}
KRS|gotyawallet: this is going to take hours to stabilize ya think?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.14959999 = 0.5984 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.14999999 = 0.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.14999999 = 0.3 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.14999999 = 0.3 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8080 @ 0.00080283 = 6.4869 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 58 @ 0.00301598 = 0.1749 BTC [+] {2}
davout: hello assets
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 35 @ 0.00324999 = 0.1137 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves ghash.io is not run by bitfury, no
mircea_popescu: exactly in the sense the hash exchange wasn't run by pirate.
mircea_popescu: and for that matter, anyone can send hashing to ghash, it being a pool.
mircea_popescu: that you send some hashing their way means exactly nothing in any sense.
mircea_popescu: bloctoc the bot only quotes when it can get a datafeed. if it can't it doesn't quote, and its previous quotes expire
mircea_popescu: hello davout
mircea_popescu: usd 24h vwap 1023.03 7day vwap 1023.74. seems we're stabilizing.
ThickAsThieves: lol China is playing the FUD game now I see
ThickAsThieves: I wonder how many coins they are buying
thestringpuller: usd 24h vwap 1023.03 7day vwap 1023.74. << possibly a good time to underwrite options?
thestringpuller: sell deep puts to the bot lol
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves actually, the legislative strategy of the chinese governments ever since the days of confucius was,
mircea_popescu: make strong worded, vaguie proclamations. this will encourage they who do things they think are wrong to desist,
mircea_popescu: without forcing the bureaucracy to actually explain what is wrong and how to identify it.
thestringpuller: !ticker m s.mpoe
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00079975 / 0.00080781 / 0.00081785 (177732 shares, 143.57 BTC), 7D: 0.00078278 / 0.00080056 / 0.0008476 (1566139 shares, 1,253.80 BTC), 30D: 0.0007725 / 0.0008174 / 0.00088996 (5865320 shares, 4,794.36 BTC)
ThickAsThieves: so I read this as banks and the general financial market cant play bitcoin, but everyone else can, including gox
mircea_popescu: iy
mircea_popescu: well, the govt kinda owns the banks
mircea_popescu: so it's really more like, if you make a loss trading bitcoin we'll shoot you. if you make a gain we'll maybe promote you, we'll see about that, don't bet on it.
ThickAsThieves: hehe
mircea_popescu: anyway, who knows. i don't trust my grasp of the chinese intricacies much.
mircea_popescu: unlike the us, these people have had over three thousand years to complicate things.
ThickAsThieves: nor google translate
ThickAsThieves: is there a "real" translation somewhere?
mircea_popescu: no i actually have people that speak the language peering at it for me.
mircea_popescu: this is a serious operation.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 39 @ 0.00324999 = 0.1267 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: i dont understand what has even changed with this announcment
mircea_popescu: well, it specifies chinese banks are not to use bitcoin as a currency, as the chief point.
ThickAsThieves: were they?
mircea_popescu: which you know, kinda matches rthe fincen earlier report. bitcoin is, all the pretense of interested parties to the contrary, not a currency,
mircea_popescu: as ruled on trilema, oct 6 2012.
mircea_popescu: not afaik, no.
ThickAsThieves: what did you rule it, a commodity?
mircea_popescu: wow gold
ThickAsThieves: ah yes
mircea_popescu: anyway, some people were contemplating vehicles such as funds
ThickAsThieves: so this means the US will def approve the winklething
mircea_popescu: the chinese do have a serious problem, in the following sense : it's a highly competitive society, much more so than the us was in the 50s. people are very performance driven.
mircea_popescu: the economic situation is dire, the finances are in a mess. everyone is earnestly looking for ways to conserve capital values
mircea_popescu: had this pronouncement not been made, we could have ended up with a rush from chinese provincial authorities buying bitcoins and erecting miner farms
mircea_popescu: so if anything it's good, in that it balances out the govt battle, because the us (all its pretense to the contrary) could not have kept up.
mircea_popescu: in this sense it subtly strengthens bitcoin, because it's current value and recent explosion are both due to the little secret made public also on trilema, ie govts involved.
mircea_popescu: as long as there remains balance bitcoin will do ok.
ThickAsThieves: tldr CHEAP COINZ
mircea_popescu: more like, "the chinese central authorities are not exactly asleep, and picked the right course".
mircea_popescu: anyway, one point that is perhaps not directly obvious to foreigners is that china contains about 10mn people who have the authority to spend various amounts of public funds.
mircea_popescu: it's a strange mix between a command economy and a market economy, and managing it looks more like herding 10mn cats.
thestringpuller: that's a really good observation
thestringpuller: know what i'm sayin'?
mircea_popescu: :p
ThickAsThieves: easy to herd cats if you pavlov them with treats
ThickAsThieves: I can whistle and all my animals come to me
mircea_popescu: this is what they did so far. the problem is there's a finite bulk of treats, and they're trying to soft land it atm
thestringpuller: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-09-21/chinas-ghost-cities-are-multiplying << so apparently the chinese like bubbles?
thestringpuller: http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2012/05/China%20Cement.jpg << this graph is kinda funny
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.3449 = 0.6898 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: well more like can't easily avoid them
mircea_popescu: the westerners love bubbles, and they could EASILY avoid them
thestringpuller: don't you think the chinese would have learned after building the first ghost city that it doesn't work though?
thestringpuller: so couldn't they easily avoid the real estate bubble they are creating?
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1044.00001, Best ask: 1046.9999, Bid-ask spread: 2.99989, Last trade: 1049.4, 24 hour volume: 47832.40001050, 24 hour low: 870.001, 24 hour high: 1240.0, 24 hour vwap: 1082.84601
ThickAsThieves: looks like US is still bullish
mircea_popescu: i doubt they went "o hey, know what'd be cool ? if we built a ghost city!"
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller http://trilema.com/2013/notorious-mp-layin-down-that-subliminal-shit-na-mean/#comment-96545
mircea_popescu: mwahah
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14150 @ 0.0007965 = 11.2705 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: am i pretty fly for a white guy or what.
ThickAsThieves: ha!
ThickAsThieves: http://www.latribune.fr/actualites/economie/france/20131205trib000799423/la-banque-de-france-demonetise-le-bitcoin.html
ThickAsThieves: France singing along
mircea_popescu: my ring feels well kissed.
mircea_popescu: ESPECIALLY seeing all the intervening experts in their own head in the past 13 months opining on the topic as if they knew better.
ThickAsThieves: Have you heard of the " LOYAL3 Social IPO platform"
ThickAsThieves: my mom got this email from a large US Movie Theater corp: "To our AMC Stubs members,
ThickAsThieves: AMC Entertainment Holdings, Inc., the parent company for AMC Theatres, is going public. We are reserving a number of shares in our initial public stock offering (IPO) for you, our most loyal customers, to reserve on a first-come, first-serve basis. The price per share will be determined by negotiations between us and the underwriters of the IPO, but it will be the same price per share
ThickAsThieves: as offered to Wall Street investors.
ThickAsThieves: We will also give you the same 24-hour head start our employees will receive, in order to ensure you have the earliest opportunity to reserve shares at the offering price. While many companies depend on their customers' support every day, those customers don't always get the chance to own a piece of the action at the same price as Wall Street investors. We're offering this exclusive
ThickAsThieves: employee benefit to our AMC Stubs members to express our sincere gratitude for your loyalty.
ThickAsThieves: If this interests you, please click here to learn more.
ThickAsThieves: Please note that to execute this idea, we have opted to use the LOYAL3 Social IPO platform, an innovative new way to bring IPOs to market, where you can buy from $100 to $2,500 of our stock, and sell stock, with no fees. "
ThickAsThieves: sounds like something from the forums
Duffer1: i can't help but feel it's a pr stunt to drum up value to major investors
ThickAsThieves: its also a way to check the temperature
Duffer1: look even the proles get a piece, give us attention
ThickAsThieves: they ask you to contact them if interested
ThickAsThieves: this may give them some info on how people value it
ThickAsThieves: of course the people they are asking arent even the target audience for their stock...
Duffer1: i guess i shouldn't knock it until the amount of shares to be made available in this way is known, i'd be shocked if it was more than 2% of the company
ThickAsThieves: i'd be shocked if their Stubs holders and employees could afford 2%
Duffer1: mm good point
ThickAsThieves: tis an interesting email tho
ThickAsThieves: this China release explicitly explains that bitcoin is not money, but also explicitly states that bitcoin exchanges must use anti-"money" laundering measures
ThickAsThieves: i suppose fiat is the money in that case
ThickAsThieves: nvm
ThickAsThieves: a lil derpy this morning
ThickAsThieves: coffee time
mircea_popescu: sooo, i wake up, there's a turkey in the oven
mircea_popescu: i end up having stuffed turkey for breakfast with a few slices of camembert
mircea_popescu: this WORKS omg. davout you gotta try it.
ThickAsThieves: did you hear about the toejam cheese?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves don't go trippin on the camembert yo
ThickAsThieves: while i dont eat cheese anymore, i always preferred the very sharp, hard stuff
ThickAsThieves: like mimolette
mircea_popescu: this was young, but it had possibly the finest velvet micelium i've yet seen.
mircea_popescu: why not eat cheese anyway ? it's what made us white folk smart enough to rule all the other races.
ThickAsThieves: well, i dont think you really want me to answer that
ThickAsThieves: like asking why am i vegan
ThickAsThieves: no one cares
mircea_popescu: just as long as it's not a youtube link
ThickAsThieves: haha
ThickAsThieves: the core of it for me is that i cherish life
ThickAsThieves: simplest way to put it
mircea_popescu: but life w/o camembert is scarcely life. if i offered you the deal of 200 year lifespans as long as you lived in a hamster ball weould you live in a hamster ball ?
ThickAsThieves: that's a much bigger question than cheese
ThickAsThieves: lol
ThickAsThieves: i have no idea if my brain could handle that lifestyle
ThickAsThieves: can people come into my ball?
mircea_popescu: nope.
mircea_popescu: they got germs yo
ThickAsThieves: while i require minimal social interaction, i know humans are social creatures
ThickAsThieves: so odds are i'd go nuts before 200 yrs
mircea_popescu: so you can wave at them through your transparent enclosure
mircea_popescu: and you can irc
ThickAsThieves: how do i IRC, voice recog?
ThickAsThieves: 200 years on IRC hehe
mircea_popescu: no you got a kbd in your bubble
ThickAsThieves: is your point that cows live longer cuz we like their cheese?
ThickAsThieves: i think i missed something
mircea_popescu: my point is that generally speaking restrictive diets are unhealthy. i fail to see any diference between "i shall only eat mcchicken nuggets" and "i shall only eat asparagus".
mircea_popescu: not implying it's what you do, obviously.
ThickAsThieves: i never ate much meat to begin with
ThickAsThieves: cheese tho, yeah
ThickAsThieves: but i have no lack of access to fat
mircea_popescu: now, not feeling like some cheese is one thing, not feeling like cheese for two decades running is another, but not eating cheese because baby jesus disaproves ?
mircea_popescu: fuck baby jesus.
ThickAsThieves: its not religious
mircea_popescu: well my friend, how can you show that ?
ThickAsThieves: its more like how you dont wanna put a warning on bitbet
mircea_popescu: there's many religions.
ThickAsThieves: maybe over time the world is more like the one i idealize
mircea_popescu: you idealise a world without cheeze ?!
ThickAsThieves: no actually
ThickAsThieves: i'm okay with cheese in general
ThickAsThieves: but we cant seem to cheese responsibly
mircea_popescu: anyway, a good side discussion re the cheese that made us smart, see the other satoshi : http://unenumerated.blogspot.ro/2013/11/european-asian-divergence-predates.html
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.003014 = 0.1507 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: i suppose there is a pinch of spirituality in it too
ThickAsThieves: like if i come back as a cow
ThickAsThieves: lemme fukn graze
ThickAsThieves: dont put me in a box with tubes in all my holes
mircea_popescu: these cows grazed
ThickAsThieves: i can appreciate old-fashioned farm cows
ThickAsThieves: i can even appreciate eating said cow when its time if thats what you wanrt
jamespeerless: what kind of warning do you not want to put on bitnet? about usa laws?
mircea_popescu: http://www.lonelyplanet.com/france/normandy/activities/other/president-farm
mircea_popescu: you can actually go tour their farm
mircea_popescu: jamespeerless http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-12-2013#404449 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: a discussion there
jamespeerless: ah about snackman
jamespeerless: :P
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 3 @ 0.1685 = 0.5055 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: basically al that does is bloat the ONE page.
mircea_popescu: you can't have everything be the first line.
ThickAsThieves: indeed
jamespeerless: yeah i don't think its needed at all
ThickAsThieves: i disagreed with your not warning people right til you pointed out that it was good training
mircea_popescu: people don't read page 2 so let's fuck up the flow of page 1 by smashing in there a bad summary of page 2
jamespeerless: read the faq's if you have a question
ThickAsThieves: and then i realized you are right
mircea_popescu: then even fewer people read even page 1
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i;m more stating it plain for the benefit of the lurker than anything
jamespeerless: i guess you could maybe add a small warning on the receiving address page when they are about to send money only if there's less than X hours until close
mircea_popescu: jamespeerless how would you know ?
ThickAsThieves: being the pied piper of penny bitcoin shares has taught me much in this regard
ThickAsThieves: people need to fucking TRY to get info
mircea_popescu: ;;google charles schmid
gribble: Charles Schmid - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Schmid>; Charles Schmid: The Pied Piper of Tucson — Secrets in the Sand ...: <http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/serial_killers/predators/schmid/sand_1.html>; Pied Piper of Tucson: Twisted 1960s killings by Charles Howard ...: <http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/pied-piper-tucson- (1 more message)
ThickAsThieves: just try, please!
mircea_popescu: here's a guy that was fucking a bunch of teenage chicks
mircea_popescu: and then decided to kill some just to see how it is
ThickAsThieves: i get these emails like "I had shares on BTCT, now what" still
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 9 @ 0.02240001 = 0.2016 BTC [+]
jamespeerless: what's BTCT?
ThickAsThieves: try
mircea_popescu: :D
mircea_popescu: jamespeerless it was glbse v2.
jamespeerless: ah found it
ThickAsThieves: "Mexican cobalt-60 thieves will soon die of radiation exposure, say officials"
ThickAsThieves: lol
ThickAsThieves: "They will, without a doubt, die."
ThickAsThieves: awesome
mircea_popescu: this seems an officious lie.
ThickAsThieves: well its likely in between
kleeck_: On a long enough timeline, we all die.
ThickAsThieves: the handlers were likely planned to die all along
pankkake: bitbet down?
mircea_popescu: pankkake i see it ?
KRS|gotyawallet: wow anything for a buck
ThickAsThieves: Microsoft labels US government a ‘persistent threat' in plan to cut off NSA spying
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i dunno, i imagine it must have been in some sort of container
deadweasel: i see it too, pankkake
pankkake: hmm… I hope it's a temporary problem with OVH
ThickAsThieves: The abandoned cobalt-60 was found removed from its casing about 25 miles from where it was stolen
pankkake: from my other IP I can access it
mircea_popescu: ouch
mircea_popescu: yeah, they're gonna die.
mircea_popescu: this reminds me of a case in brazil some years ago
ThickAsThieves: it's now thought that the two men didn't know what was inside the truck, which was en route to a local storage facility, and only unsealed the material out of curiosity.
ThickAsThieves: poor kitties
kakobrekla: pankkake pm me your ip
ThickAsThieves: ;;bcstats
gribble: Current Blocks: 273196 | Current Difficulty: 7.074082830514966E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 274175 | Next Difficulty In: 979 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 20 hours, 41 minutes, and 40 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 866930566.7 | Estimated Percent Change: 22.55024
ThickAsThieves: it lowers!
mircea_popescu: ;;google goiania accident
gribble: Goiânia accident - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goi%C3%A2nia_accident>; The Radiological Accident in Goiânia - Publications - International ...: <http://www-pub.iaea.org/mtcd/publications/pdf/pub815_web.pdf>; Goiânia´s Legacy Two Decades On: <http://www.iaea.org/newscenter/news/2008/goiania.html>
ThickAsThieves: amazing stuff that crazy even exists
ThickAsThieves: science!
mircea_popescu: anyway, the secret is just how tolerant of radiation the human body is.
mircea_popescu: in that case, out of hundreds of people exposed four died
ThickAsThieves: There he spread some of it on the cement floor. His six-year-old daughter, Leide das Neves Ferreira, later ate a sandwich while sitting on the floor. She was also fascinated by the blue glow of the powder, and applying it to her body, showed it off to her mother. Dust from the powder fell on the sandwich she was consuming; she eventually absorbed 1.0 GBq, total dose 6.0 Gy, which is
ThickAsThieves: roughly equal to 13 Sv, more than the fatal dose even with treatment.
deadweasel: /mode #bitcoin-assets -c
deadweasel: crap
deadweasel: webchat sucks
mod6: use irssi
deadweasel: i do
mod6: !?
deadweasel: my server is funny today, so I'm on webchat, trying to get it back up
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves can you picture that ?
deadweasel: hosed my networking, is dumb for a remote server
mod6: deadweasel: ah
ThickAsThieves: it's quite surreal
ThickAsThieves: "Seventh Company Ltd. evaluation has been made based on previous first and second rounds of investments by Havelock Investments Canadian Bitcoin based Fund Exchange during due diligence process and it is indeed a post-money valuation (not pre-money valuation!). But of course evaluation took into consideration total capital invested in the previous rounds by Angel investors and VC, as
ThickAsThieves: well as income and profit estimations. "
ThickAsThieves: this in response to me asking for explanation of valuation
ThickAsThieves: 'post-money valuation'
mircea_popescu: whoever wrote that has significant experience as online tech support and no experience as a finance anything.
Apocalyptic: ^^
ThickAsThieves: lol
ThickAsThieves: please give me millions of $ so I can be worth millions of $
ThickAsThieves: then you can be too!
ThickAsThieves: i started to ask him for actual list of assets
ThickAsThieves: but realized i'd be wasting my time
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16600 @ 0.00078114 = 12.9669 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: well at least it's a collection of words...
Apocalyptic: ThickAsThieves, did topace himself wrote that ?
ThickAsThieves: i do not know
mircea_popescu: not unless he's now azn.
ThickAsThieves: i assume the quote is from the 7C guy
ThickAsThieves: and that james isnt intimitaly involved other than as dev team for HL
ThickAsThieves: but thats just a guess too
ThickAsThieves: intimately*
ThickAsThieves: i dont know who wrote the prospectus though
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.1499 = 0.2998 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: but even that document says it can change anything it says at anytime
ThickAsThieves: sooooo
mircea_popescu: people will eventually figure out the importance of being able to talk to the actual guy running the show and making the calls.
mircea_popescu: there's a reason mpex is mpex whereas all the labcoins out there consist of people talking tough but then upon on examination peeling away like onion skins
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.14995 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: REP. BOB GOODLATTE (R-VA): Professor Turley, the constitution, the system of separated powers is not simply about stopping one branch of government from usurping another. It's about protecting the liberty of Americans from the dangers of concentrated government power. How does the president's unilateral modification of act of Congress affect both the balance of power between the political branches and the liberty inter
mircea_popescu: ests of the American people?
mircea_popescu: JONATHAN TURLEY: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The danger is quite severe. The problem with what the president is doing is that he's not simply posing a danger to the constitutional system. He's becoming the very danger the Constitution was designed to avoid. That is the concentration of power in every single branch.
mircea_popescu: o look, the us pot is cooking up.
ThickAsThieves: link?
davout: mircea_popescu: haha i will, you should try yesterdays sushi wrapped in the morning crepes, it does work too
mircea_popescu: sushi never gets to be yesterday's here.
mircea_popescu: i got catwomenz.
ThickAsThieves: got it
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves kinda circlejerking each other, obviously, but the stuff they have to say...
mircea_popescu: o nelly.
mircea_popescu: in other news :
mircea_popescu: Few studies have examined a direct causative effect between smoking marijuana and gynecomastia. A report in 1972 made the initial connection between cannabis and gynecomastia.
mircea_popescu: did you know manboobs come from pot ?
ThickAsThieves: well it messes with hormone levels
ThickAsThieves: but it also makes you fatter
ThickAsThieves: soo...
mircea_popescu: so can i have an m to the a to the n to the booooo-oooobs
ThickAsThieves: Good afternoon assbot
assbot: hi
mircea_popescu: http://shtfplan.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/major-stock-market-crash-in-january.gif
mircea_popescu: shit people come up with
topace: [08:53:31] <Apocalyptic> ThickAsThieves, did topace himself wrote that ?
topace: ^ i did not
topace: ThickAsThieves is correct, i have nothing to do with underwriting new listings any more
topace: and i questioned the valuation as well
mircea_popescu: topace get a signed statement to that effect, you never know when you need one.
topace: mircea_popescu: its all in the contracts we signed already
mircea_popescu: good thinking there. aite.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16858 @ 0.00078889 = 13.2991 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: +ticker
Diablo-D3: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1090.0, Best ask: 1099.0, Bid-ask spread: 9.00000, Last trade: 1099.0, 24 hour volume: 53856.39443812, 24 hour low: 870.001, 24 hour high: 1240.0, 24 hour vwap: 1079.57079
Diablo-D3: ;;ticker --market coinbase
gribble: Coinbase BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1005.72, Best ask: 1028.26, Bid-ask spread: 22.54000, Last trade: 1016.03, 24 hour volume: None, 24 hour low: None, 24 hour high: None, 24 hour vwap: None
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MG] 5555 @ 0.000158 = 0.8777 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.NSA] 8888 @ 0.00015 = 1.3332 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: In a sign of the times, whistleblowers who help bust illegal gold shipments can get a bigger reward in India than those who help catch cocaine and heroin smugglers.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] 493 @ 0.0006499 = 0.3204 BTC [+]
kleeck_: http://i.imgur.com/wiygh0o.jpg
ThickAsThieves: Can 7C compete? http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/4/5175786/jane-austen-mmo-gets-funding-promises-18th-century-delights
ThickAsThieves: two brains, no fair
ThickAsThieves: "while traditional MMOs have epic raids, we have extravagant balls"
ThickAsThieves: hahaha
kleeck_: LOL
kleeck_: No way.
kleeck_: That's a REAL quote?
ThickAsThieves: yep
ThickAsThieves: watch the vid
ThickAsThieves: a woman quotes some real gems
kleeck_: " various game scenarios like dinner parties"
kleeck_: ROFL
kleeck_: What will guilds be called? "Knitting Clubs"?
kleeck_: "Unlike many multi-player games, it's not about kill or be killed but invite or be invited. Gossip is our weapon of choice. Instead of raids, we will have grand balls. Instead of dungeons, we will have dinner parties."
ThickAsThieves: Biggest Balls Guild
kleeck_: I cannot wait until 4Chan picks this up as a target.
pankkake: so it's a mmorpg for little girls?
pankkake: haha, yeah
kleeck_: And grandmothers, apparently.
kleeck_: "Did you hear? xxKILLERSLUTxx didn't get an invite to the King's Ball!" *GASP!*
ThickAsThieves: where's my Google Glass invite
ThickAsThieves: are people giving away codes anywhere?
mircea_popescu: this is one of those things that sounds good on paper and then goes nowhere.
mircea_popescu: well... this doesn't sound that good on paper, either.
pankkake: what, having a 24/7 spycam streaming to the NSA?
pankkake: though I'd like to try the eye thing. and know what optometrists think about it
pankkake: having some sort of permanent HUD would be great
davout: just put it on when you fuck some bitches to get the NSA guys all hard
kakobrekla: ok so i just made a cup of this ethiopian coffee you assets scammed me into buying
kakobrekla: its not bad, but nothing special so far, maybe the dosage is a bit off
kakobrekla: a bit like romanian beer
asciilifeform: monocle displays are terrible.
asciilifeform: i own one - http://www.loper-os.org/vintage/paralleleye/eye.html - (1989! and higher res than virtually all modern 'consumer' ones) but 15 minutes, and then headache.
ThickAsThieves: the codes are cheap on ebay i see
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kakobrekla: what do you do with the code then
ThickAsThieves: you buy a pair
ThickAsThieves: and you are then part of the Explorer program
kakobrekla: so you buy a code with which you can buy a pair
kakobrekla: is there a code i must buy to buy the code?
ThickAsThieves: which lets you get replacements and upgrades
pankkake: well it also must depend on people. I know I am very subject to weird stuff in my eyes. can't do that 3D shit or even images moving randomly
jurov`: why pair? they make lefthanded version too?
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla romanian beer is not bad ?!
kakobrekla: i just thoguht , .. pair of eyes ...
kakobrekla: shit.
ThickAsThieves: 3D bugs me too, but for some reason it was fine for me during a recent thor viewing
kakobrekla: just a bit watery
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 80 @ 0.0029 = 0.232 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: is not bad no.
mircea_popescu: a hey. i thought it's kinda meh
ThickAsThieves: what style beer do romanians do?
pankkake: well, those things will be a goldmine for orthoptists
kakobrekla: im not beer expert , but i had a lot of different ones
kakobrekla: the last one i had was in romania actually
mircea_popescu: i dunno really, i never drink the stuff
jurov`: http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/12/scientist-developed-malware-covertly-jumps-air-gaps-using-inaudible-sound/
ozbot: Scientist-developed malware prototype covertly jumps air gaps using inaudible sound | Ars Technica
jurov`: i'm sticking to my rpi for airgapping purposes
asciilifeform: the same rpi with a MB of closed source blob running on dedicated core?
mircea_popescu: communicated != jumps
jurov`: what's the blob gonna do?
mircea_popescu: this is a sophomore project, build audio relay.
asciilifeform: seems like nobody ever heard of... modem.
mircea_popescu: well not the kids of today, no.
mircea_popescu: i used to get my first torrents off tv, yo.
jurov`: well everyone was "hurr durr aint use ultrasound, there are filters"
mircea_popescu: jurov` that part yeah
asciilifeform: the phun part is that you needn't use ultrasound.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/a-simple-example-as-to-why-fiat-institutions-cant-stand/ << me being a bitch.
ozbot: A simple example as to why fiat institutions can’t stand pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
asciilifeform: high-res, stable oscillators in modern machines let you pull, say, the following trick:
asciilifeform: 'click' sound to start counter; next 'click' - value of counter is transmitted word.
asciilifeform: (with heavy error-correction, naturally.)
asciilifeform: no ultrasound, and still pretty good bandwidth.
mircea_popescu: you could make a crickets app and nobody'd ever know
jurov`: or use modulation that sounds like white noise
asciilifeform: and, the grand prize: say the victim owns a fleet of PCs which pick up interference somewhere in the 25-300MHz range.
asciilifeform: then, transmitter using... displays.
asciilifeform: (example: http://xtrmntr.org/priikone/programs/tempest-AM-README)
ThickAsThieves: so will noise cancellation be a future security feature?
ThickAsThieves: they already have good grasp of doing it
jurov`: that falls under RF compatibility
ThickAsThieves: for things like headphones and such
jurov`: but everyone cheats to meet rf norms
jurov`: cuz it's expensive to do it right
asciilifeform: actually, noise cancellation circuit, given that it emits sound, makes a great side channel.
asciilifeform: not to mention that you can craft periodic signals that the canceller will actually amplify.
ThickAsThieves: oh well
pankkake: just listen to merzbow and you'll be safe
asciilifeform: also you needn't a speaker to produce sound.
asciilifeform: i have several laptops where i can hear the cpu easily enough
nubbins`: nod re: canceller amplifying
asciilifeform: why? inductor buzz in the power supply circuit
nubbins`: noise cancellation ain't great for unexpected signals
kakobrekla: common on GPUs
nubbins`: useless really
jurov`: just demand proper RF compatibility, as used in TV studios
asciilifeform: nubbins`: naturally you can't decode individual instructions from the buzz - but you can modulate it if desired
jurov`: you just have to pay 100x more for stuff
pankkake: also you can control the fan of GPUs easily
ThickAsThieves: as a wanna-be audiophile i dont trust noise cancellation not to fuck up the sound anyway
nubbins`: nod
asciilifeform: pankkake: nothing to do with the fan
pankkake: just saying it's another source of communication
nubbins`: all noise cancellation is
nubbins`: is a mic and a circuit that precisely inverts the sound coming into the mic
ThickAsThieves: yep
nubbins`: great if you're on an airplane
nubbins`: useless if you're seated next to a shrieking baby
asciilifeform: nubbins`: not quite. there's a delay loop in there. thinkaboutit.
ThickAsThieves: hehe
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 2 @ 0.05499999 = 0.11 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: speed of sound being finite.
nubbins`: ah, i suppose, yeah
nubbins`: i just figured they used tungsten wires to carry the signal ;)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17630 @ 0.00078219 = 13.79 BTC [-]
nubbins`: amagi metals: "The bad news is that there is a huge snow storm that hit us here in Denver, so there may be some shipping delays from FedEx and USPS after we get your orders out."
nubbins`: somebody mentioned yesterday about -18F in denver?
asciilifeform: from the crackpot brigade: https://likeinamirror.wordpress.com/2013/12/01/satoshi-nakamoto-is-probably-nick-szabo/
nubbins`: from the crack brigade: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/rob-ford-documents-8-revelations-from-wiretap-evidence-1.2451620
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mircea_popescu: !b 2 ✂︎
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: nubbins` somebody was me.
nubbins`: ah yes indeed
mircea_popescu: i am the keeper of the aforeknowledges
nubbins`: no doubt their silver rounds are snapping in half down there
nubbins`: and their marihuana cigarettes will not stay lit
mircea_popescu: lol
nubbins`: and their uh
nubbins`: has hockey started yet? those guys are probably fine
ThickAsThieves: why is Ford's brotherly relationship news?
ThickAsThieves: he's an emotional scammer?
nubbins`: he's a toronto city councillor
nubbins`: yes, that's right, the fine folks of toronto voted two idiot brothers into office
ThickAsThieves: but who cares if they arm wrestle?
nubbins`: ah, nobody, i suppose
nubbins`: i think the point being made is that they always support each other
nubbins`: except for that one time when doug was mad at rob
nubbins`: around the time he was accused of smoking crack
nubbins`: the implication being that doug knew it was true, and was quite upset
mircea_popescu: in other news, we've managed to baffle greenspan
nubbins`: ah, he's had his gunwales padded?
nubbins`: wait, sorry, no. other baffle.
mircea_popescu: "I do not understand where the backing of Bitcoin is coming from. There is no fundamental means of "repaying' it by any means that is universally accepted."
pankkake: yeah, he said bitcoin isn't backed by anything!
pankkake: who would ever use such a currency!
ThickAsThieves: lol
ThickAsThieves: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=752
ozbot: Loper OS » For Your Eyes Only
asciilifeform: 'sure, this carriage is horseless, but where are the reins? gotta be somewhere.'
ThickAsThieves: i like that story
mircea_popescu: "I haven't been able to identfy the intrinsic value of Bitcoin - maybe someone else can...
mircea_popescu: but if you ask me if this is a bubble in bitcoin... yeah it's a bubble.
mircea_popescu: the funny part is... bernanke just said gold is a bubble
mircea_popescu: for about the same reasons.
ThickAsThieves: so he says I dunno wtf is going on, but lemme tell ya, it's def a bubble
mircea_popescu: my take home ios that it sucks having kids. because if you have kids then you have to find employment, which transforms you into bernanke. and then you grow old, which makes you greenspan.
mircea_popescu: i'd rather not be stupid.
ThickAsThieves: but how will your vision for the world be achieved once you pass?
ThickAsThieves: need more little mirceas
mircea_popescu: for what purpose ?
ThickAsThieves: posthumous revenge?
mircea_popescu: well... inasmuch as i didn't make the original one,
pankkake: I don't think he acknowledges his mortality
mircea_popescu: go ahead and make more little mirceas
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.0029 = 0.58 BTC [+]
nubbins`: "To read about all those other people you’ve got to buy the Professional version or even the Enterprise Edition."
ThickAsThieves: hehe
mircea_popescu: pankkake i just don't acknowledge the relevance of the world past that point.
ThickAsThieves: until you are reborn a milk cow in the US ;)
asciilifeform: nubbins`: the author of that piece did turn up eventually.
mircea_popescu: maybe i'm reborn a mastiff on a porn set in california.
mircea_popescu: named Ma Stiff.
nubbins`: no relation to Ma Barker: http://missouriwomen.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/bloody-mama-1970_imagelarge.jpg
mircea_popescu: :D
mircea_popescu: i like it when people catch on vague maladroit references i make
nubbins`: any sharper and i'd cut myself
nubbins`: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/2013-0-5-BTC-Brass-Casascius-Physical-Bitcoin-REDEEMED-/331076143888?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item4d15ad0b10&_uhb=1
ozbot: 2013 0 5 BTC Brass Casascius Physical Bitcoin Redeemed | eBay
nubbins`: 7 hours to go
jurov`: gpg signed, sent back under same name
mircea_popescu: ouch
jurov`: filthy racist nao
ThickAsThieves: hahaha
mircea_popescu: that was perhaps not the best move.
nubbins`: ahahahahahahahahahaha
mircea_popescu: if they get pissed off it's one thing, but what if
nubbins`: "what's this niggers.asc in our network drive?"
mircea_popescu: they really like it and ivnite you to weird aryan union events
nubbins`: ah, this raises a point
nubbins`: i should really back up my pgp keys and put them somewhere safe
kakobrekla: what lol 140$ for a piece of brass
nubbins`: kakobrekla: i know, rite?
kakobrekla: at least it isnt 3btc like mp paid!
thestringpuller: lolololol
pankkake: someone should make chocolate bitcoins
nubbins`: well maybe i should glue it to a cufflink.
nubbins`: pankkake: it's been done
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: make it into a prince albert.
nubbins`: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/3-Bitcoin-Chocolate-Gold-Foil-Coins-NO-BTC-VALUE-Casascius-1-Liberty-Coin-Bonus-/281218761544?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4179f1c348&_uhb=1
ozbot: 3 Bitcoin Chocolate Gold Foil Coins NO BTC Value Casascius $1 Liberty Coin Bonus | eBay
nubbins`: haha
nubbins`: bitcoin PA ring
mircea_popescu: omfg, i have the best idea ever!
nubbins`: "what
nubbins`: 's backing this?"
mircea_popescu: make little btc addresses and put them into lolipops
mircea_popescu: sell the lolis
mircea_popescu: for btc.
nubbins`: "200 pounds of muscle and sinew"
ThickAsThieves: bitcoin pasties?
kakobrekla: i got a few of those 1 btc ones empty and full, maybe its time for the market to have em
mircea_popescu: you can win anywhere between 0.001 and 1 btc
mircea_popescu: the thing sells for 0.01 or we
nubbins`: kako, the going rate seems to be 140-160usd, regardless of denomination
kakobrekla: hm
kakobrekla: i better wait till cas dude is in jail
kakobrekla: they will go for 1600 then
mircea_popescu: good idea.
nubbins`: ah, i don't think he's gonna go to jail
ThickAsThieves: mp will your lollipop factory be all nude women to prevent theft?
nubbins`: just get the clampers put on his biz
nubbins`: ThickAsThieves: the canadian mint does this
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves well... women may be inadequate. nude 12yos ?
ThickAsThieves: better staff a dentist
mircea_popescu: btcloli
nubbins`: you can't let people with teeth into the building
mircea_popescu: taking puns to new highs/lows.
pankkake: nude diabetics. if they lick they die?
ThickAsThieves: LOLipops
nubbins`: kakobrekla: which full ones do you have?
kakobrekla: dunno
kakobrekla: 1 btc
kakobrekla: they are of golden color
nubbins`: year?
kakobrekla: but 100% brass guaranteed!
nubbins`: .999 fine brass
kakobrekla: ok ok
kakobrekla: oh and one is also silver
kakobrekla: 5 btc empty
kakobrekla: i bought them empty
nubbins`: ah
nubbins`: i'd like an empty 5 ;(
kakobrekla: the full one is 2012
kakobrekla: if that means anything
nubbins`: not a remarkable coin
kakobrekla: FUCK YOU
nubbins`: heh!
mircea_popescu: lol i see trade is proceeding well
nubbins`: i'll give ya 0.03 for the 5
kakobrekla: that like 3 bucks or something
nubbins`: 30!
kakobrekla: yeah like i said, 3
nubbins`: trailing zeroes are significant :(
kakobrekla: im going to trade them for buttcoin pic
kakobrekla: any takers?
nubbins`: oof, not w/ me
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla make it wives and girlfriends only
mircea_popescu: the buttcoin wags club
kakobrekla: :D
ll: lol this chan is awesome
nubbins`: ^
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mircea_popescu: !b 2 ✂︎
nubbins`: sometimes i wonder about my cat
nubbins`: http://imgur.com/8gp0nzq
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
ThickAsThieves: did the Gold bitbets score any donations?
ThickAsThieves: the cat needs a sleep mask
kakobrekla: you see where paying dividends brings you to....
mircea_popescu: ;p;
nubbins`: she does
ThickAsThieves: i'm just interested kako
ThickAsThieves: for the drama
kakobrekla: i dont know
kakobrekla: lets see if the forum heats up
nubbins`: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-12-05/china-s-pboc-bans-financial-companies-from-bitcoin-transactions.html
ozbot: China Bans Financial Companies From Bitcoin Transactions - Bloomberg
jurov`: shat's gold bitbets?
jurov`: *what
ThickAsThieves: nubbins you missed the great crash Dec 5th, 2013
ThickAsThieves: of
mircea_popescu: jurov` the gold vs btc price bet
kakobrekla: anyway wouldnt publishing such info prematurely be sketchy
kakobrekla: what if the late bet was 24 mio btc
kakobrekla: everyone on this chan would buy bbet
mircea_popescu: with ltc
kakobrekla: heh
ThickAsThieves: i suppose
ThickAsThieves: i can wait
ThickAsThieves: if there's drama
ThickAsThieves: itll find you
mircea_popescu: drama is hard to get these days
mircea_popescu: diff is insane.
nubbins`: tat, guess i slept through it
nubbins`: huh
nubbins`: https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=COG.F
nubbins`: https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=COG.F2
ThickAsThieves: sigh
nubbins`: http://www.recognizethisblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/floodgates.jpg
ll: hmm whats the KENXPL one
ThickAsThieves: hmm
Korbman: odd
ThickAsThieves: didnt even bother with a description on that one :)
nubbins`: ah
nubbins`: kenilworth
ThickAsThieves: word
nubbins`: some sort of diamondcoin mining operation
nubbins`: ;p
Korbman: lol pull labcoin, add kenilworth
Korbman: :P
ThickAsThieves: haha
nubbins`: labcoin is still there :P
Korbman: for now
nubbins`: market cap 3 btc
dexX7: ;;buy 80000 usd
gribble: (buy [--long] <amount> <thing> [at|@] <priceperunit> <otherthing> [<notes>]) -- Logs a buy order for <amount> units of <thing>, at a price of <price> per unit, in units of <otherthing>. Use the optional <notes> field to put in any special notes. <price> may include an arithmetical expression, and {(mtgox|bitstamp)(ask|bid|last|high|low|avg)} to index price to mtgox ask, bid, last, high, (1 more message)
dexX7: :(
ThickAsThieves: ;;market buy 80000
gribble: This order would exceed the size of the order book. You would buy 26053.649 bitcoins, for a total of 344391906.6772 USD and take the price to 1000000000.0000. | Data vintage: 112.7465 seconds
ThickAsThieves: ;;market buy 80
gribble: A market order to buy 80 bitcoins right now would take 86200.7744 USD and would take the last price up to 1085.9990 USD, resulting in an average price of 1077.5097 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 128.2626 seconds
ThickAsThieves: close enough :)
dexX7: yup, thanks :)
ThickAsThieves: ;;market buy 80 usd
gribble: (market buy [--usd] [--market <market>] <value>) -- Calculate the effect on the market depth of a market buy order of <value> bitcoins. If <market> is provided, uses that exchange. Default is mtgox. If '--usd' option is given, <value> denotes the size of the order in USD.
nubbins`: http://www.businessinsider.com/baml-initiates-coverage-on-bitcoin-2013-12
ozbot: BAML Initiates Coverage On Bitcoin - Business Insider
TomServo: so close! :)
ThickAsThieves: ;;market buy --usd 80000
gribble: A market order to buy 80000.0000 USD worth of bitcoins right now would buy 74.290258 bitcoins and would take the last price up to 1085.9990 USD, resulting in an average price of 1076.8572 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 181.6505 seconds
ThickAsThieves: there it is
dexX7: ah
ThickAsThieves: "our fair value analysis implies a maximum market capitalization of Bitcoin of $15bn"
ThickAsThieves: would love to see that report
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34479998 BTC [-]
jamespeerless: its already basically at 15bn?
jamespeerless: so they're claiming this is the max?
nubbins`: more or less
nubbins`: they said $1300
nubbins`: "Breaking: Largest, most authoritarian government in the world manages to slightly inconvenience Bitcoin for an hour or so."
ThickAsThieves: jamespeerless, the article basically says "We intend to buy bitcoins, please don't rally til we have."
jamespeerless: :P
ThickAsThieves: a commenter: "If you found this article useful, please donate BtC (preferably before they become even more worthless). 1HjVaQegDCoDrGgW"
nubbins`: BtC
ThickAsThieves: bit the coin
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33299795 BTC [-]
dexX7: ThickAsThieves: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-12-05/bofaml-sees-bitcoin-fair-value-1300 here are some parts of the report
kakobrekla: you know what "bit coin" means in slovenian
kakobrekla: to be a horse.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33299795 BTC [-]
pankkake: a coin backed by horses would work wonders in romania
ThickAsThieves: well the report already is retarded
ThickAsThieves: it starts with US usage stats
ThickAsThieves: US personal consumption expenditures totaled $11trn in 2012
ThickAsThieves: Household checking deposits and cash totaled $0.7trn in 2012
ThickAsThieves: Dividing the former by the latter, we get 0.07 (which we will refer to as velocity from now on)
pankkake: "Given Bitcoin does not pay any interest and that there are no investment instruments (equities or bonds) that are denominated in Bitcoin"
ThickAsThieves: cause i closed XBOND, sorry Wall St
ThickAsThieves: "We don’t have an informed view on this subject..."
ThickAsThieves: that's better
ThickAsThieves: (taken a bit out of context)
KRS|gotyawallet: The horses backed coin would work equally as well in Somalia and Croatia.
ThickAsThieves: "Bottom-line: maximum market capitalization for Bitcoin’s as a store of value = $5bn"
dexX7: it all seems random
ThickAsThieves: i guess they gotta start somewhere
ThickAsThieves: now some other firm can be like nah, here's a better way
dexX7: true
ThickAsThieves: the irony being that fair market value is so easy to find
nubbins`: hmm
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1064.69472, Best ask: 1078.787, Bid-ask spread: 14.09228, Last trade: 1060.13587, 24 hour volume: 56785.86176932, 24 hour low: 870.001, 24 hour high: 1240.0, 24 hour vwap: 1076.51875
nubbins`: il neige aujourd'hui :(
pankkake: pourquoi la frimousse triste ?
nubbins`: je n'aime pas les temps froid ;(
ThickAsThieves: je m'appele TAT
Apocalyptic: *appelle
nubbins`: c'est un super lel
ThickAsThieves: oui
nubbins`: nous allons donner pankkake un mal de tete ;/
Apocalyptic: heh
pankkake: I've been often confused on the number of P and L on appelle. appelle, appel, but apeller
Apocalyptic: pankkake, ça s'utilise encore "frimousse" de nos jours ?
pankkake: ça ne s'utilise pas, on utilise "smiley", but it felt silly using an English word when purposely using French
ThickAsThieves: "Criminals setting "fair" value to the Magic the Gathering card version of currency. That's fucking rich."
nubbins`: not as rich as all of us
nubbins`: AM
nubbins`: I
nubbins`: RITE?!
ThickAsThieves: lol
nubbins`: srsly, just cut the top off a faberger egg so my cat wouldn't have to drink out of a dish like some kind of fucking prole
ThickAsThieves: lol
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 21 @ 0.0226 = 0.4746 BTC [+]
pankkake: gangsta rap should promote bitcoin. too bad casacsius didn't make bitcoin pendants
nubbins`: l'utilisation de mots anglais dans une phrase française semble un peu bizarre
pankkake: les québécois ne le font pas, mais les français si
nubbins`: although i suppose you feel the same way when you read "well, folks, let's go to the restaurant for lunch!"
topace: is anyone doing just-dice graphs like there used to be for satoshi dice ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 6 @ 0.0226 = 0.1356 BTC [+]
nubbins`: les québécois n'est pas français ;p
pankkake: Americans who use French words to appear smart (redditors) are funny
pankkake: c'est sûr
nubbins`: pankkake: around the time of the "freedom fries" thing, i read an article where the guy said we should stop using ALL french loanwords
nubbins`: he then proceeded to cross out all french words in his article and replace them
pankkake: good luck with that
nubbins`: i know right?
nubbins`: took him three lines to describe the place where he would eat
nubbins`: "Restau... no, caf... no, uh..."
nubbins`: the french embassy had no comment, except to say that french fries were invented in belgium
pankkake: restaurant in American = mcdonald's
mircea_popescu: pankkake> "Given Bitcoin does not pay any interest and that there are no investment instruments (equities or bonds) that are denominated in Bitcoin" << herp.
mircea_popescu: given that retards discussing bitcoin have no clue, we predict continued drama and lulz.
nubbins`: dunno, my bitcoins have paid plenty of interest
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 132 @ 0.00299598 = 0.3955 BTC [+] {2}
nubbins`: maybe they bought the wrong kind
mircea_popescu: maybe they bought the wrong color.
mircea_popescu: got themselves some of jurov's milky nigger.txt coins
pankkake: I have a fiat account that gives me a few percent per year. I used to watch it and move money it/out etc.
pankkake: bitcoin kinda changed my persective
pankkake: -typos
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.02485399 = 0.1243 BTC [+] {3}
pankkake: there's still no ObamaCoin!
nubbins`: asdsfdsfgfddgfdsg
nubbins`: leel
mircea_popescu: <Apocalyptic> pankkake, ça s'utilise encore "frimousse" de nos jours ? << i was thinking. fucking ordinateur and "frimousse"
nubbins`: ordinateur is a brutal word
pankkake: I like ordinateur !
nubbins`: internet words are always tricky
pankkake: frimousse is cute, *too* cute
nubbins`: when i did web dev, we'd have to send message bundles off to get translated
mircea_popescu: it's cute in the sense of 30yo unshaved woman that can't poledance pestering her cuckolded "bf" on xmas eve.
nubbins`: you'd have people translating the word "click", "email", etc multiple ways in the same document
nubbins`: and of course half the translators were quebecois and the other half were acadiens
nubbins`: and just now, i learned that half a million acadiens moved to louisiana.
nubbins`: huh.
nubbins`: and just NOW, i'm realizing that's where the word "cajun" comes from
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: acadjuien
mircea_popescu: seems pretty obvious
deadweasel: my cajun neighbors, good people.
deadweasel: resistant to the governments nonsense. very resistent.
nubbins`: well, that's france for ya
nubbins`: er, the french
nubbins`: i'm sure pankkake is preparing to throw his wooden shoes into some gears as we speak
pankkake: the French worship the State
pankkake: they might not like the government, they like the State
mircea_popescu: this is true
nubbins`: nod
mircea_popescu: ridiculous, but true
deadweasel: then the cajuns have moved far enough away from the french, thank jesus.
nubbins`: quebecois are the same way
deadweasel: truly I have no malice for the french, it's conditioned into me.
nubbins`: see for reference, last year's casseroles protests
pankkake: well, governments fail to do anything good every year, but you know, the next one is going to be great!
nubbins`: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oAJBhNtr04
ozbot: Casseroles 'Pots and Pans' Montreal Protest Video - YouTube
pankkake: but I have to admit I like the current protests
nubbins`: man, that got me so fucking angry last year
nubbins`: SO goddamn angry
nubbins`: non a la loi speciale!
mircea_popescu: so seriously, did that fortune guy ever manage to short btc ?
mircea_popescu: "À toujours vouloir bien paraître, je crois que le Parti Québécois enfoncera un autre clou dans son cercueil. Le Parti Québécois semble servir jour après jour les intérêts des riches avec leurs visées néolibérales anglo-saxonnes. Les assistés sociaux, les étudiants, les francophones et maintenant les travailleurs pâtiront. "
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mircea_popescu: holy shit, the french speaking canadians imagine they are going to be MORE socialist than the anglo-saxons ?!
mircea_popescu: lmao.
nubbins`: the PQ sucks
mircea_popescu: that aside.
mircea_popescu: these people actually believe what's wrong with the us etc is that they are stepping too much on the throat of the proletariat ?!
deadweasel: nobody can believe that
nubbins`: ah
nubbins`: in that context, anglo-saxon essentially should be translated as "bogeyman"
nubbins`: or capital-O Outsider, w/e
mircea_popescu: dude, how about no futher "dignite" of any kind for five years.
mircea_popescu: then we see.
pankkake: néolibéral too
nubbins`: ^
mircea_popescu: who the fuck heard of dignity for the poor.
pankkake: we have « ultralibéral » in France
mircea_popescu: that's why they're poor, to be humble.
nubbins`: the PQ thought they had it knocked
mircea_popescu: fucking upside world.
nubbins`: huge protests, PQ to the rescue! repeal the special law!
nubbins`: then they realized the population wasn't finished with being upset
gesell: mtgox split order javascript console script, if interested http://pastebin.com/tESPiTvg pretty simple
nubbins`: pauline marois is way worse than jean charest
ThickAsThieves: this guy... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=348468.msg3838759#msg3838759
ThickAsThieves: getting so tired of all is babbling like he is in-the-know and some kind of soothsayer
nubbins`: but dude, you're missing the human element
ThickAsThieves: thats cuz i am robot
ThickAsThieves: assbot is my wife
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves if the dork you were quoting earlier can opine about what the mkt cap of bitcoin should be,
mircea_popescu: then why can't random forum retard ?
assbot: fuck me in the ass
mircea_popescu: exactly same quality/material.
nubbins`: ThickAsThieves: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wagkBedzwI8
nubbins`: ah, wait, ^^ hopes restored
KRS|gotyawallet: ThickAsThieves: isn't $5BB market cap only midcap at best
nubbins`: good thing you keep backups
ThickAsThieves: basically they want to paint their obsessive passive aggression as some kind humanitarian effort or something
ThickAsThieves: assbot, grease, or no?
assbot: no grease for your size
nubbins`: heh
ThickAsThieves: i saw that coming
ThickAsThieves: nice assist i guess
nubbins`: i'm imagining a mechanical iris closing
assbot: its what couples do
ThickAsThieves: teamwork!
ThickAsThieves: selfdeprication facilitation
ThickAsThieves: complete.
nubbins`: |#####################| 100%
pankkake: 8================D 100%
assbot: your balls are small
mircea_popescu: what's the emoticon for vagina dentata ?
ThickAsThieves: Install Failed. Would you like to check Windows Update for a solution?
Apocalyptic: heh
pankkake: {¦} ?
ThickAsThieves: ( {|} )
mircea_popescu: that looks more like himen bifenestratus
nubbins`: heh
kakobrekla: pankkake draw a bear trap
kakobrekla: tat warp traveling
ThickAsThieves: ( { XXX } )
pankkake: yes!
ThickAsThieves: now he pm's me saying i'm not consumer focused ...
ThickAsThieves: been in marketing for like most of my life...
ThickAsThieves: I'd reason with the guy if I didn;t think it'd result it point by point epic messages where he never gives in
mircea_popescu: isn't this the dork that was falling all over himself with mpoe-pr earlier ?
ThickAsThieves: dunno
ThickAsThieves: he was on ActM board
ThickAsThieves: oh yeah
ThickAsThieves: about SMG right?
mircea_popescu: haha well that's fitting
ThickAsThieves: yeah thats him
pankkake: oh, hence in my ignore list :D
mircea_popescu: i dun recall about what.
mircea_popescu: but i recall greyhawk's comment that his avatar is well chosen
ThickAsThieves: i had him ignored but now he's all up in Neo's business
pankkake: anyone in that board should be scammer tagged anyway
mircea_popescu: pankkake anyone not in my wot is scammer tagged by default.
pankkake: yeah I figured that one
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pankkake: is 7C a scam?
pircea_momescu: pankkake 7c is a scam !
pankkake: see, that works
thestringpuller: lololololol
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 37 @ 0.0077 = 0.2849 BTC {2}
mircea_popescu: "I have searched Google and I haven't found an answer to what it is am looking for. So here is the deal am looking for a MMORPG (not FPS) that I and a friend can play without the need of putting any money on it. It should be completely free (no one time buy, no need to put money to buy higher gear, no need to upgrade the account to open some other stuff and bag limits.) Also prefer if the game isn't from perfect world
mircea_popescu: international (since I have had bad history with there employees)."
mircea_popescu: i like internet people.
mircea_popescu: broiled.
pankkake: there employees :(
mircea_popescu: "i want good shit for free and a blowjob"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 1111 @ 0.0077 = 8.5547 BTC {3}
ThickAsThieves: he prefers here employees
ThickAsThieves: dont these free things exist anyway?
Apocalyptic: they do
ThickAsThieves: like private WoW servers
ThickAsThieves: or such
Apocalyptic: it's just not good shit
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves those don't have here employees.
ThickAsThieves: ah
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 50 @ 0.0077 = 0.385 BTC
nubbins`: you still gotta buy wow tho
mircea_popescu: it's like... total complete bonehead. employees don't need to be paid.
nubbins`: this guy wants a great game that he can play for free
nubbins`: NO ADS THO
mircea_popescu: AND employees
mircea_popescu: no riffraff like ThickAsThieves mind. people with better consumer focus.
ThickAsThieves: i think Candy Crush is free
ThickAsThieves: and on Facebook
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.14995 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 1005 @ 0.0077 = 7.7385 BTC {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] [PAID] 2.28033270 BTC to 5`067`406 shares, 45 satoshi per share
nubbins`: heh
nubbins`: well, "free"
nubbins`: i'll inspect your wallet, credit card receipts, and health records for free
ThickAsThieves: "Any Capital raised by Havelock Investments on behalf of this Fund will be placed in escrow. The raised capital will only be distributed to the Company based on a per performance basis agreed by Havelock Investments and the Company. In the event that the Company is no longer able to continue operations, all of the remaining capital in escrow will be refunded to the Unit holders equally."
ThickAsThieves: 7C ^
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.15 = 0.6 BTC [+]
nubbins`: huh, interesting
mircea_popescu: so basically every mistake that can be made will have to be made
mircea_popescu: a well.
Namworld: Mistakes?
mircea_popescu: yes.
Namworld: Fill me in
ThickAsThieves: like releasing funds to them?
mircea_popescu: well, it's simple : if you don't trust the company don't let it list.
mircea_popescu: i;m too lazy to go into the endless debate as to why stupidity doesn't work. i'll just state the general point and shrug.
Korbman: but that's not how the new Havelock makes money ;)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 10005 @ 0.0077 = 77.0385 BTC {2}
mircea_popescu: the new havelock is not going to be making any money.
jurov`: Mhm...i can't follow,what has changed at havelock?
jurov`: Moving to panama aside.
nubbins`: floodgates.png
nubbins`: something like 50 funds waiting in the wings?
pankkake: 50 shitfunds
jurov`: orly
Namworld: Really? Where's the announcement on that? >.>
pankkake: on their own IPO, they stated that
thestringpuller: people are actually buying this 7C shit?
thestringpuller: @_@
nubbins`: prospectus, page 4
nubbins`: adding 12 new funds each quarter
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 10000 @ 0.0077 = 77 BTC
Namworld: Panama says: Give ID, list anything
pankkake: the new info is also that CFIG is mostly Panama Fund guys
nubbins`: ah, i remember cfig
nubbins`: i drew a little diagram way back
nubbins`: it had a bunch of question marks
pankkake: oh, that was you :)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 2012 @ 0.0077 = 15.4924 BTC {4}
nubbins`: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=269191.msg2940289#msg2940289
nubbins`: :D
ozbot: [HAVELOCK] Crypto Financial (CFIG) Official Thread
nubbins`: xbt, how quaint
nubbins`: that's essentially what virtex's debit cards do, but with automatic conversion of btc to fiat
nubbins`: also, my trust link is green now?!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 1978 @ 0.0077 = 15.2306 BTC {2}
Korbman: I see 7C is pretty much only pulling in large orders
Namworld: And almost round... like 10000 > 10000 > 2000 > 2000
Namworld: Mostly what happened so far
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 20 @ 0.0077 = 0.154 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 25 @ 0.0077 = 0.1925 BTC
mircea_popescu: anyuone here ever tried rift ?
thestringpuller: how do you have time to play all these mmo's?
thestringpuller: "research"
thestringpuller: jkjk
TomServo: mircea_popescu: the tabletop rpg?
mircea_popescu: apparently there's a new pc version
mircea_popescu: or maybe unrelated i dunno ?
TomServo: Appears to be unrelated. I haven't played it.
ThickAsThieves: I played Rift
ThickAsThieves: in the early days
ThickAsThieves: it was enjoyable enough
TomServo: I was thinking of "Rifts" anyhow.
ThickAsThieves: MP you should just buy Rift
ThickAsThieves: and bitcoinify it
nubbins`: would play a settlers of catan themed btc game
nubbins`: or a btc themed settlers of catan, not sure
ThickAsThieves: i'd also play a dota btc game
ThickAsThieves: seems that format is pretty popular these days
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 90 @ 0.0077 = 0.693 BTC
nubbins`: you could actually probably completely re-skin catan to have a btc theme
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 26 @ 0.0077 = 0.2002 BTC {2}
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i might, but are they selling it ?
ThickAsThieves: well i know they went to a fee model
ThickAsThieves: free*
ThickAsThieves: so they cant be doing well
nubbins`: hey, some of the best things are free
ThickAsThieves: and everyone has a price right?
nubbins`: like google, and that guy who offered to help me install that btc security software on my computer
nubbins`: unless you think there's some sort of catch to using both of those things?!?!?!
mircea_popescu: ok, that may be, but... well...
ThickAsThieves: have deadweasel get them in here
ThickAsThieves: :)
mircea_popescu: deadweasel baby, can you ferret out the owners of rift ?
mircea_popescu: you suppose anyone accused them of scamming because they don't also provide you with internet ?
mircea_popescu: "but i vbought the game fair and square!!11 why can't i play it on my toaster!11"
nubbins`: pretty much the definition of scam
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 15 @ 0.0077 = 0.1155 BTC
ThickAsThieves: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=N9LlbuAeqlc#t=22
ozbot: 2010 WWE Hall of Fame: Million Dollar Man - YouTube
nubbins`: hahahaha
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 8750 @ 0.0077 = 67.375 BTC {3}
nubbins`: theodore dibiase!
ThickAsThieves: was harder to find him saying his catchphrase than i thought itd be
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 6000 @ 0.0077 = 46.2 BTC {2}
deadweasel: mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves , I'm at work, give me a general starting link and I'll see.
deadweasel: dafuq is rift anyway? a game?
nubbins`: ThickAsThieves: you know ultimate warrior does knife painting now?
ThickAsThieves: deadweasel, Rift is a major game, you'd need to start with the studio probly
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 63 @ 0.00299699 = 0.1888 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: really there's like 0 chance theyll come in here
nubbins`: http://www.ultimatewarrior.com/blog/
ThickAsThieves: unless they already are!
ozbot: Warrior's Machete
Namworld: There's only one quality IPO coming up. Calm your horses and the random ideas IPOs.
ThickAsThieves: weapons of wisdom
ThickAsThieves: lol
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20500 @ 0.00078219 = 16.0349 BTC [-]
Namworld: Ideas are 2 bucks a dozen, not 5 million each
mircea_popescu: deadweasel http://www.riftgame.com/en/play-for-free/
mircea_popescu: no rush whatever, if you manage it at all you're a miracle worker anyway
ThickAsThieves: warrior's stuff isnt horrible
nubbins`: there's better
nubbins`: http://www.warriorgallery.com/Pages/Works.html
ozbot: Works.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves well if it's f2p it ain't that major namean ?
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nubbins`: http://www.warriorgallery.com/Pages/WARRIOR_Van%20Gogh%20Skull_24x36.html
ozbot: Sitting Bull Blue
nubbins`: i like to imagine him painting these with a huge rambo knife, rather than a palette knife
ThickAsThieves: that one isnt bad either
ThickAsThieves: but paying that much for a print is silly
nubbins`: that's an original, not a print
ThickAsThieves: oh it said also available in other size
ThickAsThieves: so i assumed
nubbins`: ah, yeah, i think the other size is a print
ThickAsThieves: i know many artists try to sell prints for ridic prices
nubbins`: oh. nope.
nubbins`: tat, i have much to say on the subject of prints
ThickAsThieves: do you do giclee?
nubbins`: no, and in fact, i don't consider giclees "prints" in the traditional sense of the word
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nubbins`: they're closer to color photocopies than anything
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33800001 BTC [-]
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nubbins`: producing a print takes skill and effort, and each one is usually a unique piece
nubbins`: producing a giclee involves making sure your ink cartridges are topped up, and clicking a mouse
ThickAsThieves: i always assumed giclees did color matching
nubbins`: oh, sure, sometimes. but that's still just dicking around on the computer
ThickAsThieves: hehe
nubbins`: a $250 epson can produce beautiful CMYK giclee prints
nubbins`: but they're worth the cost of the paper and inks, plus maybe $20
nubbins`: to compare a giclee to a linocut or a serigraph is truly taking the piss
nubbins`: nothing worse than seeing people selling small "prints" for $50 each
nubbins`: in an edition of 250
ThickAsThieves: to me, i'd either want the original, or a good-enough print to look pretty on the wall
nubbins`: and then finding out they're fuckin giclees
ThickAsThieves: in-between seems a waste
nubbins`: nod
nubbins`: take a linocut, for example
nubbins`: it doesn't exist as a piece of art until it's printed
nubbins`: and each print is unique, as the linoleum squishes around and wears down
KRS|gotyawallet: http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/one-third-of-kenyans-now-have-a-bitcoin-wallet
ozbot: One Third of Kenyans Now Have a Bitcoin Wallet | Motherboard
nubbins`: a giclee is just a copy of an original
KRS|gotyawallet: Wonder how long til the Serbians get on board with their own bitcoin wallets.
nubbins`: compared to linocut, monotype, serigraph, etc, where the prints ARE originals
nubbins`: people have a lot of trouble with that point
ThickAsThieves: well the concept is that people want to know the artist stood there and made the thing
ThickAsThieves: not a amachine
nubbins`: nod
nubbins`: or at the very least, had a hand in its production
ThickAsThieves: meh
nubbins`: often the artist and the printer work hand-in-hand
kakobrekla: pressing all teh buttons
kakobrekla: moving all the mouses
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ThickAsThieves: working with artists = printer's nightmare
nubbins`: ^ agreed
nubbins`: welcome to my life, heh
nubbins`: altho our clients are generally pretty easygoing
ThickAsThieves: I have no money, but I want 5 prints of 50 of my pieces!
ThickAsThieves: how much?
ThickAsThieves: or same request but for greeting cards
nubbins`: heh
ThickAsThieves: "buy your own printer" i'd tell them
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nubbins`: we explicitly do not own a color printer for this very reason
nubbins`: well. we have a printer that can print color (6 tanks!)
nubbins`: but it's all loaded with super-opaque pigment inks
nubbins`: for printing films
nubbins`: all black
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 13 @ 0.0077 = 0.1001 BTC
nubbins`: the best jobs are where we're given free reign over the art
ThickAsThieves: my mom used to work painting separations of textile patterns onto acetate plastic sheets by hand
nubbins`: "we want some posters made, here's a list of things we like: interrobangs, lasers, robots, etc"
nubbins`: ah, that's thankless work :)
ThickAsThieves: carpal tunnel in both hands, AND the foot version
nubbins`: nod, my wrists aren't great
nubbins`: years of poor computer posture combined with manual printing
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ThickAsThieves: she'd have like 20 sheets layered over eachother in one brown blob when done
nubbins`: i've sepped by hand before
ThickAsThieves: then they got computers
nubbins`: generally just use gimp with a wacom tablet these days
nubbins`: our usual process is pencil -> ink -> gimp -> inkscape -> illustrator -> acetate -> silkscreens -> paper
thestringpuller: uh
thestringpuller: uh
thestringpuller: gimp
thestringpuller: huh huh
thestringpuller: huhuh he said gimp
nubbins`: heh
nubbins`: and really, we only use illustrator for printing films
nubbins`: would be nice if we didn't need it
nubbins`: but inkscape doesn't support CMYK print output (srsly)
ThickerThanThiev: i'm a coreldraw fan
ThickerThanThiev: great for that kinda work
nubbins`: never used it
ThickerThanThiev: it's canadian!
nubbins`: i mean, inkscape itself is great for vector work
nubbins`: it just barfs at the output step
nubbins`: so we shelled out $800 for illustrator
ThickAsThieves: it takes adusting for a long-time Illustrator user
nubbins`: and another $500 for 3rd party epson drivers
ThickAsThieves: but the keystrokes and tools and like everything for vector editing in corel is just better imo
nubbins`: ah
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 30 @ 0.0077 = 0.231 BTC
nubbins`: yeah, illo is powerful, but most of it is still beyond me
nubbins`: the image trace options in cs6 are fuckin great tho
nubbins`: http://www.softwareforscreenprinters.com/accurip
ozbot: Accurip
ThickAsThieves: what was it we used to rip, oh yeah Onyx
ThickAsThieves: so expensive
nubbins`: nod
nubbins`: rips are fucking LOOT
asciilifeform: unrelated but interesting: http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?c=ecfr&sid=c5cc9a1c749a6f225283bdfa124431d0&rgn=div9&view=text&node=15:
nubbins`: tried to get away without using one for so long
asciilifeform: a list of junk u.s. gov. considers politically interesting.
nubbins`: such a waste of effort
nubbins`: i almost wept when i saw the first set of separations accurip spit out
nubbins`: felt like i'd discovered bitcoin
ThickAsThieves: hehe
deadweasel: who exactly from rift do you want to talk to?
asciilifeform: betcha every luggage trunk at every u.s. airport contains something on this list.
deadweasel: a pr douche?
deadweasel: accountant?
ThickAsThieves: no
ThickAsThieves: an owner
nubbins`: a c-level exec
deadweasel: mutherfucker
deadweasel: ha, wish me luck
ThickAsThieves: he want to buy the game afterall
nubbins`: gl ;p
deadweasel: and just what do they want to talk with you about? :)
deadweasel: i can't make it up if I havne't followed the story.
nubbins`: anyway, people have no idea what a pain pre-press work is
nubbins`: "yeah my artwork is ready to go"
deadweasel: we do now, nubs
nubbins`: not even converted to spot colors
nubbins`: etc
nubbins`: the thing about "graphic designers" that fucking pisses me off
nubbins`: is that none of them understand print
ThickAsThieves: lol
nubbins`: "ahh, the guy who prints it can figure that out"
ThickAsThieves: i never hired college-trained designers
nubbins`: and then the poor client pays me $xx/h to recreate the goddamn image from scratch
ThickAsThieves: fukn useless
nubbins`: nod
nubbins`: no concept of anything
nubbins`: 72dpi backgrounds
nubbins`: "it looks good on my screen"
nubbins`: die in a fire
ThickAsThieves: file prep is truly an advanced skill
nubbins`: it's a completely separate skillset
kakobrekla: just rename it to niggers.txt
deadweasel: lol
nubbins`: "how would you like niggers.txt screened?"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 5000 @ 0.0077 = 38.5 BTC
nubbins`: 61 lpi, 22.5 deg angle, please
nubbins`: i'm still learning
nubbins`: only discovered "overprint fill/stroke" recently
deadweasel: "i want all niggers.txt screened out of my t=shirt, please."
nubbins`: and the implications thereof
ThickAsThieves: i once printed seps for an album cover on the newspaper's hardware where i wored
ThickAsThieves: whored
ThickAsThieves: hehe
ThickAsThieves: worked*
kakobrekla: i belive whored is the right term
nubbins`: what did they call those projectors they used to use for seps?
ThickAsThieves: i cant remember
ThickAsThieves: big fuckers
nubbins`: not orthographic
nubbins`: i can't remember either. rad tho.
nubbins`: would love to get into letterpress
nubbins`: but that's an expensive setup
nubbins`: and i'd want to be able to make my own plates
nubbins`: which makes it a REALLY expensive setup
ThickAsThieves: people will pay pretty well for it, but way too custom for my patience again
nubbins`: yeah, there's basically zero market outside of wedding invitations too
ThickAsThieves: brides as clients, lol
ThickAsThieves: one time, that's all it took me
ThickAsThieves: insanity
nubbins`: bridezilla
nubbins`: one of our printers works days at a wedding planning place
nubbins`: she does not enjoy it
ThickAsThieves: in the end i was hand-scoring and trimming corners one by one
nubbins`: "yeah, auhhmmm, i want flowers like pandora vanderpump had at her wedding... but i don't want them to, like, cost a lot"
ThickAsThieves: hand drawn maps to the location
ThickAsThieves: custom lettering
ThickAsThieves: bleh
nubbins`: nod
nubbins`: we've silkscreened some wedding invites
nubbins`: doing some now actually
nubbins`: 6 spot colors ;(
ThickAsThieves: (sorry channel, I'm just about bored with the print talk) :)
nubbins`: http://pinkeyeprints.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/wedding-invite-2a.png
nubbins`: heh
nubbins`: i'm about done too
kakobrekla: you just got him wet
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1123.0, Best ask: 1124.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.00000, Last trade: 1121.0, 24 hour volume: 56407.85643252, 24 hour low: 870.001, 24 hour high: 1240.0, 24 hour vwap: 1069.77714
ThickAsThieves: try harder China!
nubbins`: 870-1240
nubbins`: pretty calm day
kleeck_: :P
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 61 @ 0.00318637 = 0.1944 BTC [-] {7}
mike_c: ;;premium btcn mtgox
gribble: Premium of BTCChina over MtGox is currently -9.57021326982 %.
mike_c: china is asleep at the wheel.
mike_c: everybody ran to china to arbitrage and drove the price down :)
nubbins`: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/chicken-in-turkey-mary-brown-s-aims-for-istanbul-1.2452205
ozbot: Chicken in Turkey: Mary Brown's aims for Istanbul - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News
ThickAsThieves: not Constantinople
nubbins`: some years ago, mary brown's released this new sandwich called the Big Mary
nubbins`: huge ad campaign
nubbins`: some guy thought a play on "hail caesar" would be a good idea
nubbins`: massive posters in bus shelters everywhere depicting a chicken sandwich
nubbins`: "HAIL MARY" in foot-high letters
nubbins`: catholic church became very upset
nubbins`: shocked that the mother of god would be compared to a chicken sandwich!
nubbins`: and so the posters came back down
ThickAsThieves: shoulda used prints
nubbins`: i lel'd
ThickAsThieves: catholic church is very snooty about such things
nubbins`: we've actually been experimenting with silkscreening posters for taping to poles
mircea_popescu: so how's the printing office going ?
nubbins`: great, A+++, would do business with again
nubbins`: http://imgur.com/KMj2YW7
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
nubbins`: ^ surprisingly resilient to the elements
mircea_popescu: lol
nubbins`: we bought a 36"x1000' roll of red kraft paper, great idea
nubbins`: anyway, shit to do. peace
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00299699 = 0.1498 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.165 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 50 @ 0.0077 = 0.385 BTC
benkay: #python-pdx
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19534 @ 0.00078614 = 15.3565 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 333 @ 0.00299799 = 0.9983 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 129 @ 0.0077 = 0.9933 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 5000 @ 0.0077 = 38.5 BTC
TomServo: What's your standard response to "It's a ponzi!"?
mike_c: you mean pyramid scheme?
TomServo: heh, nope
TomServo: Although that'd be more accurate. You mean, that's your response?
mike_c: tough to be a ponzi without somebody running the whole thing.
ThickAsThieves: i thought the standard respinse IS it's a ponzi
pircea_momescu: ThickAsThieves it's is a ponzi !
mike_c: somebody is typically holding all the money in a ponzi. who would that be?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8955 @ 0.00078889 = 7.0645 BTC [+]
TomServo: It's Mircea innit? :D
mike_c: he's got all the bitcoins :) somebody would have to have all the fiat for it to be a ponzi.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.16899999 BTC [+]
TomServo: Ha, true.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33809999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 1000 @ 0.0077 = 7.7 BTC
mircea_popescu: it's a prizzi!
benkay: asciilifeform, mircea_popescu: what's stupid about the NTRU encryption scheme?
benkay: (assuming there's something dumb and that you two'd know)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.16899999 BTC [+]
davout: TomServo: it's not a pyramid scheme, it's a triangular opportunity
TomServo: haha, I like it!
davout: i didn't come up with it, i think it comes from the simpsons
davout: cryptomnesia ftw
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 475 @ 0.0077 = 3.6575 BTC
kleeck_: What is the best place to short BTC?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00079052 = 2.2925 BTC [+]
davout: kleeck_: you could buy some puts on mpex
benkay: kleeck_: MPEx.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33330001 BTC [-]
benkay: or sell some calls if you're sufficiently capitalized.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3333 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 5844 @ 0.00048987 = 2.8628 BTC [+] {4}
mike_c: or on coinbr.com (mpex broker)
davout: benkay: i've been working on my financial education a lot recently still lots to learn, but isn't it much more dangerous to write options than it is to buy them ?
davout: the way i understand it you can lose a lot but your profit is capped by the price at which you sell the option
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1417 @ 0.00048994 = 0.6942 BTC [+] {3}
mike_c: yes, but you profit sooner
mike_c: at a higher price that is
davout: unlike futures where your profit varies linearly with the spot price of the underlying at maturity/expiration
davout: amirite?
mike_c: http://i.investopedia.com/inv/articles/site/img12.png
davout: mike_c: well, i guess it's up to the party who writes the option to come up with the right price
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2800 @ 0.00048999 = 1.372 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 97 @ 0.0031821 = 0.3087 BTC [-]
davout: got myself "Options, futures, and other derivatives" doing the problems, I feel like I'm back in college xD
davout: mike_c: see, that's the kind of graphs I want to really understand by coming up with them the hard way :-)
benkay: pricing options is an open problem, yes.
davout: the MPOE bot knows something about it hehe
mike_c: i value learning by experience, but the p/l graphs are definitely something you should understand before trading options.
davout: i'm not touching options, and i certainly won't write them
benkay: if you really want to understand options, write a pricing algo.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.155 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 221 @ 0.0077 = 1.7017 BTC
asciilifeform: benkay: lattice crypto is interesting but (relatively) poorly studied; plenty of opportunity for fukkupy
asciilifeform: and the pubkeys tend to end up hefty (64kB+.)
benkay: i'd like to see a shor-resistant cryptocurrency.
benkay: kinda the only altcoin that makes practical sense.
asciilifeform: benkay: there are several hypothetical altcoins that would make practical sense.
benkay: just so that when cold wallets start emptying themselves those who keep their eyes on these things have another class of cryptocoin to move into.
asciilifeform: say, my crackpot 'turingcoin' (arbitrary calculation for workfunction.)
davout: benkay: i guess i'll need to understand how to model volatility before writing one
mircea_popescu: davout the main difference between options and futures is that a correctly implemented future allows physical delivery,
mircea_popescu: which keeps the market honest.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 3 @ 0.051 = 0.153 BTC [-]
davout: can you elaborate on the keeping the market honest part ?
mircea_popescu: absent that, futures are awkwardly skinned options.
davout: and on the awkwardly skinned options part ? :-)
mircea_popescu: davout yeah. if you buy the right to receive livestock in the future, as long as you can't actually take the livestock
mircea_popescu: you're stuck realising whatever price whoever sold you the contract decides
mircea_popescu: ifthey say livestock is 10 dollars that's that.
mircea_popescu: if however you CAN take the livestock, then they are well incentivised to not declare livestock worth 10 dollars, cause you'll just take it.
davout: when you close your position you mean?
davout: ya i see
asciilifeform: self-emptying coldwallets, should they appear, would almost certainly be explained by compromised electronics (airgap that isn't) rather than QM sorcery.
mircea_popescu: at all points.
davout: finance is terrifyingly interesting
mircea_popescu: an option resolves this problem by trading on the spot. futures trade on their own "implied" spot, and so you can easily be stuck
davout: learning about it is quite enjoyable
davout: you lost me there
mircea_popescu: (for instance it's convincingly arguing atm that the large banks are keeping rthe gold price very low throuigh this exact trickery)
benkay: whereas if you take posession of the livestock, you can sell them for the market price.
mircea_popescu: davout the price at which options settle is not related to the price at which options trade, in the sense these are independent values.
mircea_popescu: the price at which futures settle is QUITE the price at which they trade.
davout: but the spot is still the spot right? i mean, it reflects the actual price of things? or am i missing something obvious here?
benkay: asciilifeform: the first set of course
mircea_popescu: thje spot is the spot, but the actual price shall never be known.
davout: haha
benkay: asciilifeform: i'm entertaining ideas about practical altcoin design
asciilifeform: benkay: programmable workfunction (part of the protocol, in my concept) would give you some teeth against asic, etc.
mircea_popescu: why do you want " teeth against asic" ?
ThickAsThieves: hey guys, where can I short the bitcoin?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you're sitting on a warehouse full of fpga.
mircea_popescu: seems a silly way to design things
davout: mircea_popescu: i'm at chapter 2 of my book, hopefully i'll grok moar and come up with better questions as i progress
asciilifeform: or simply if you'd prefer a cryptocoin that doesn't degenerate into semiconductor plants as central banks
benkay: asciilifeform: examples: targeting fpga's; dynamic workfns (as you mentioned); sorcery resistance
mircea_popescu: davout enjoi.
TomServo: davout: which book?
ThickAsThieves: http://metro.co.uk/2013/12/04/romanian-farmville-gang-con-400000-from-government-with-fake-farms-4215956/
davout: TomServo: http://www.amazon.fr/Options-Futures-Other-Derivatives-John/dp/0132777428
TomServo: Thanks
davout: feels like a good way to invest 100eur
TomServo: ThickAsThieves: This is the UK onion right? *sigh*
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00299 = 0.299 BTC [-]
dub: asciilifeform: swapping them for guys with warehouses of pgas as central banks?
asciilifeform: dub: naturally. i was reasoning from the point of view of the people who have them. they have an incentive.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00317293 = 0.3173 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 20 @ 0.0077 = 0.154 BTC
ThickAsThieves: http://www.coindesk.com/asic-miners-litecoin-soon/
pankkake: http://pastebin.com/RRSPfDkp I get a PM a day about this stupid altcoin now :/
ozbot: Hello I came across your giveaway thread at---https://bitcointalk - Pastebin.com
pankkake: haha and they don't accept litecoin as payment
benkay: hey mircea_popescu what does anul 5 d.Tr. mean?
mike_c: asciilifeform: i don't see how arbitrary work function helps. have you written something up on this? i'm missing the part where it keeps asics out of the game.
pankkake: ;;ud anul
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=anul | this is a mis-spelling of anal which could then lead to abuse by two bi-sexuals.
ozbot: Urban Dictionary: anul
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 22 @ 0.0249409 = 0.5487 BTC [+] {3}
KRS|gotyawallet: wut lel
mike_c: like you said, governments can crank out a new asic in a matter of weeks..
TomServo: benkay: Year 5, I think?
KRS|gotyawallet: mike_c: not the U.S.. I mean, have you known the U.S. to get anything done in a matter of weeks?
mike_c: asciilifeform said the nsa has a plant that does it
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 126 @ 0.02499999 = 3.15 BTC [+] {2}
asciilifeform: well, that could in principle do it.
pankkake: they can force Intel to do it
asciilifeform: the point wouldn't be to wiggle out from under each new batch of asics
asciilifeform: but to run a network with heterogeneous workfunctions.
mike_c: i don't see how that prevents the semiconductor plants from being boss. they can still crank out the most work, regardless of what that work is.
mike_c: unless its planting tomatoes or something.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33809999 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: so this forbes guy that wanted to short bitcoin so badly, ythink he knew about this china announcement?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 166 @ 0.002995 = 0.4972 BTC [+]
KRS|gotyawallet: shady shit
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=358242.0
mircea_popescu: it never ends
ozbot: Next generation 14nm mining grid
pankkake: "
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33805978 BTC [-]
pankkake: We plan to harness what will soon be the largest and most efficient pool of hashing power in the world"
mircea_popescu: herpderpetc
mircea_popescu: i plan to fart a new ring for saturn
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.33806979 = 0.6761 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: I can finally have my ASIC phone?
ThickAsThieves: and the floor tiles, are they in the works?
pankkake: oh right it's the smartphone idea, lol. that's why I closed it the first time
mircea_popescu: i like the part about THE SCAMMERS chjecking other people's records./
pankkake: floor tiles would actually be smart (if you have nothing better than electricity)
mircea_popescu: bloody nigerian cheek.
ThickAsThieves: wouldnt want no criminals holding shares now
mircea_popescu: right-o
pankkake: perhaps they are nigerians with an ethical policy of only scamming americans
nubbins`: aaaaugh
nubbins`: 60 minutes on a stationary bike
nubbins`: definitely less fun than 60 minutes on a moving bike
Vexual: worst botnet ever
Vexual: chinese pesants can't put bitcoins in the bank. am i reading correctly?
nubbins`: http://www.ebay.com/itm/2012-5-BTC-Casascius-Physical-BITCOIN-Redeemed-BONUS-5mBTC-Coin-LOADED-w-BTC-/321262450654?ssPageName=ADME:L:EOISSA:US:1123
ozbot: 2012 5 BTC Casascius Physical Bitcoin Redeemed Bonus 5MBTC Coin Loaded w BTC | eBay
nubbins`: ^ arij from -otc got $234.50 for a token :0
pankkake: ALUMINUM!!!!
nubbins`: ah, i thought it was nickel?
nubbins`: not sure
ThickAsThieves: "The residue resulting from peeling off the hologram is included."
ThickAsThieves: lol
nubbins`: yeah
nubbins`: lel
nubbins`: i went a step further and removed all messy residue from mine
nubbins`: maybe that's why it's only at $145
ThickAsThieves: residue not included
nubbins`: residue sold separately
nubbins`: Up for auction is one (1) ball of residue from a Casascius physical bitcoin
nubbins`: wow your friends! scare your mom!
ThickAsThieves: here's the "try" email of the day
ThickAsThieves: "Hello: I am interested in opening a account.
ThickAsThieves: Thank you."
nubbins`: hah
nubbins`: one-line reply
nubbins`: "Thank you for your interest."
ThickAsThieves: Thank you foR Your interest.
nubbins`: bolded for emphasis
nubbins`: if only the letters "h-a-r-d-e-r" were in the word "interest"
ThickAsThieves: maybe usg is trying to set me up or some shit
nubbins`: time to relocate
Vexual: st kitss has good residue
ThickAsThieves: i went for "We do not offer accounts."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11550 @ 0.00079145 = 9.1412 BTC [+] {2}
KRS|gotyawallet: another exchange coming it looks like..well funded launch too
KRS|gotyawallet: kind of
KRS|gotyawallet: http://www.pehub.com/2013/11/itbit-closes-3-25-mln-funding-round-unveils-bitcoin-trading-platform/
ozbot: » itBit closes $3.25 mln funding round and unveils Bitcoin trading platform
KRS|gotyawallet: ecom type web sites can easily chew through that kind of funding..hope its just the initial round of investment
ThickAsThieves: Neo is more well-funded even
benkay: "retail investors must reside outside the us"
benkay: the decline doth proceed apace.
mike_c: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 273270 | Current Difficulty: 7.074082830514966E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 274175 | Next Difficulty In: 905 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 4 hours, 49 minutes, and 39 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 871682636.513 | Estimated Percent Change: 23.222
Vexual: I thought that was creative chinese tax accountants i could hear
benkay: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1106.00001, Best ask: 1106.45, Bid-ask spread: 0.44999, Last trade: 1106.0, 24 hour volume: 58208.70733260, 24 hour low: 870.001, 24 hour high: 1240.0, 24 hour vwap: 1067.55523
pankkake: ;;ticker --market btcavg
gribble: BitcoinAverage BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1026.26, Best ask: 1031.45, Bid-ask spread: 5.19000, Last trade: 1034.03, 24 hour volume: 187327.5, 24 hour low: None, 24 hour high: None, 24 hour vwap: 1062.1
benkay: ;;calc 1106*30
gribble: 33180
pankkake: ;;premium mtgox bitstamp
gribble: Premium of MtGox over Bitstamp is currently 8.56154367093 %.
mircea_popescu: itbit eh
benkay: ;;calc 1026.26*30
gribble: 30787.8
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 400 @ 0.00079236 = 0.3169 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: nbwajhahaha cellphone mining
mircea_popescu: where do these retards get assembled i wish to know
nubbins`: i guess icbit was taken
pankkake: I love when they get angry at you (like 7C it seems). Who's begging for who's money?
mike_c: people are angry at you on the forums? hard to believe.
nubbins`: lel
ThickAsThieves: http://bitcoinviews.com/university-of-nicosia-receives-first-tuition-payment-using-bitcoin/
ozbot: University of Nicosia Receives First Tuition Payment Using Bitcoin
ThickAsThieves: Who will be the first Master of Digital Currency?
ThickAsThieves: http://www.unic.ac.cy
ozbot: University of Nicosia
ThickAsThieves: they arent kidding
pankkake: a bitcoin class, why not? there's already on for starcraft http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2009/01/uc-berkeley-int/
ThickAsThieves: right on the home page
pankkake: wow
ThickAsThieves: I met that guy, in the Video section
ThickAsThieves: was pretty interesting guy
ThickAsThieves: vid is Greek tho
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 16 @ 0.0077 = 0.1232 BTC {2}
ThickAsThieves: http://www.unic.ac.cy/about-us/university-of-nicosia-digital-currency-initiative/msc-digital-currency
ozbot: MSc Digital Currency | University of Nicosia
nubbins`: lel
nubbins`: pascale re: S.NSA t-shirts
nubbins`: "remember the models with their pussies out?"
nubbins`: "yep"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 40 @ 0.0029 = 0.116 BTC [-] {2}
Vexual: http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2013/12/05/betting-against-bitcoin-bubble/ you got quoted TAT
ozbot: How to bet against the bitcoin megabubble - The Term Sheet: Fortune's deals blogTerm Sheet
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 169 @ 0.00285973 = 0.4833 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00285 = 0.285 BTC [-] {2}
benkay: "that lead me to question just how real the prices MPEx was quoting were"
nubbins`: hahaha
nubbins`: hey, it's stephen gandel!
benkay: as real as the people buying them, one assumes
benkay: 2 contracts minimum to profit
benkay: well i say
benkay: sounds like you need some capitalization
benkay: american "news" organizations
ThickAsThieves: wow
ThickAsThieves: mpex on fortune
ThickAsThieves: wooy
ThickAsThieves: woot*
benkay: "you can totally short bitcoins profitably - it just takes a lot of money to make it reasonably profitable. ergo, bitcoins r tardfodder."
benkay: *rage rage rage rage*
Vexual: I was told this happens a lot.
ThickAsThieves: "You can't currently do that with bitcoins. All of the bitcoin options and futures contracts are settled in bitcoins. This is a very bad deal."
ThickAsThieves: I guess he didnt get it
Apocalyptic: the first comment was from pankkake
pankkake: I got quoted on options?
ThickAsThieves: "On top of all that, this isn't like trading on the New York Stock Exchange. Midday Wednesday, MPEx appeared to shut down, and the prices of the contracts disappeared. I was told this happens a lot. As of early Thursday, the exchange still wasn't listing prices. "
ThickAsThieves: awww
pankkake: I don't even know what options are!
ThickAsThieves: i dont see where any of us are quoted ... ?
Apocalyptic: don't see it either
Apocalyptic: pankkake, no look at the first comment author's avatar
Apocalyptic: it's you amirite
Vexual: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-12-2013#406136 not an actual quote ☝︎
ozbot: #bitcoin-assets log
pankkake: Apocalyptic: haha, it's my avatar but not me
davout: pankkake: i thought it was you as well :-)
ThickAsThieves: oh i get ya
pankkake: I certainly don't mind the media talking about bitcoin, even if bad
ThickAsThieves: pankkakecat trolls even better than the real one
ThickAsThieves: forbes guy coulda at least gave the chan a shoutout sheesh
Apocalyptic: indeed
pankkake: at least he didn't mention that when he joined the discussion was about underage actresses
davout: lol
ThickAsThieves: wait'll he finds out about bitcoin securities
pankkake: they clearly have the power to pump any security or altcoin they want
davout: could've been worse, he could have walked in on mp explaining how he manages his slaves herd
Vexual: revealing sources instantly transmogriphys a senior editing journalist into a lowly blogger
benkay: one wonders if he noticed.
davout: would be funny if someone posted a link to the log in the comments
ThickAsThieves: now yer talkin
ThickAsThieves: Full transcript of the author's research here!
benkay: someone do that please.
Vexual: i wonder if they'll print it
Vexual: fortune still on nesstands?
pankkake: newstands still on?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25700 @ 0.00079236 = 20.3637 BTC [+]
benkay: yessss exactly.
Vexual: nelson mandela issue, buy mpoe
mircea_popescu: lol wtf confusion in that guy's head
mircea_popescu: why is it the exchange's problem if the bot puts or doesn't put orders in
pankkake: "The best I could come up with is shorting the GPU manufacturers that bitcoin miners commonly use" in the comments
mircea_popescu: i suppose he missed the part where last month ppl made like 3k btc or w./e
pankkake: and the obligatory tulip bulp mention
mircea_popescu: i guess it's hard being clueless and yet havintg to write about shit.
ThickAsThieves: hey no one pointed out that bitcoin's worth more than Google
ThickAsThieves: (shares)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.02888997 = 0.2889 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 15 @ 0.0077 = 0.1155 BTC
mircea_popescu: because google isn't backed by anything
Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu, well in your case the exchange is the market maker also
Apocalyptic: but he didn't mention that and seem to have no clue so yeah
Vexual: next time someone should probably wake mircea