mircea_popescu: $avg

mircea_popescu: ;;ticker

mircea_popescu: USD1087.03913.44527.31

mircea_popescu: day week month avg prices.

mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/mpoe-november-2013-statement/

mircea_popescu: worst month since april or w/e.

mircea_popescu: Duffer1 you can get 10 off

mircea_popescu: dexX7 about 3x

mircea_popescu: pankkake huh ?

mircea_popescu: whoa look at that, mpoe profit is branded by the beast.

mircea_popescu: o that. http://mpex.co/faq.html#13

mircea_popescu: benkay that's incidental tho, it stopped quoting because bitcoincharts went kinda awol.

mircea_popescu: and atm there's no options listed because as announced im going to cut a digit.

mircea_popescu: because what's one to do, scientific notation ?

mircea_popescu: lol this just in, courtesy of concerned investor "i must say, your statement suffers from a lack of comments about your inability to say things and the desire you feel to redeem yourself at a future date"

mircea_popescu: i took it to be a sly reference at all the non-statements ppl make on the forum

mircea_popescu: ywah

mircea_popescu: somehow magically nobody noticed or seems to care.

mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/281/btc-usd-at-mtgox-will-be-above-150-on/ kakobrekla i wonder how many people still own the addresses they put down on a yearlong bet like that.

mircea_popescu: yeah, i'm thinking... it's probably the case that at least half trhe addresses are lost etc. why send btc there ? just stop paying altogether, it's for the good of Bitcoin! </sarcasm>

mircea_popescu: Bitcoin price to rise above 1000

mircea_popescu: Rejection reason: Too late. lol good 1

mircea_popescu: well this is yet another point where bitbet design shines. we don't ever have thios problem

mircea_popescu: this sounds like a problem.

mircea_popescu: aite.

mircea_popescu: a bet is a controversy in fact, anchored in the future.

mircea_popescu: a suit steams from a controversy in fact, anchored in the past.

mircea_popescu: as the future eventualyl turns into past, what bitbet has to do and what the courts have to do are homomorphic : establish what the words say, what the facts are and how the two relate.

mircea_popescu: i've quite deliberately constructed it so a lot of triage of facts can be easily done by the users

mircea_popescu: (the constant, leave proof in comments thing, for instance)

mircea_popescu: that's a stem. it can further develop.

mircea_popescu: this is incidentally not so different from the core principles of the rota system,

mircea_popescu: where parties to the controversy also had to deliberately submit to judgement and advance bitcoin.

mircea_popescu: bitbet is a superset of that, really.

mircea_popescu: hah

mircea_popescu: benkay it's been done afaik

mircea_popescu: benkay i distinctly recall a diff will grow 20% or more each week bet on bitbet.

mircea_popescu: KRS1 seems new, i never heard of it b4

mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/effectual-spam-filtering-for-wordpress/

mircea_popescu: the article everyone kept asking for.

mircea_popescu: dexX7 well since i have all this code...

mircea_popescu: by now it's almost worth it to pay for php developers simply to give me trilema article material which then gets me trilema credits which are btc

mircea_popescu: i suspect the whole thing's better than mining.

mircea_popescu: lol

mircea_popescu: i've yet to see a leeter feed than trilema.

mircea_popescu: lol

mircea_popescu: well i do occasionally cover various scams etc.

mircea_popescu: tsk tsk.

mircea_popescu: the truth of the matter is, scams are nearly magical, in that they manage to take in people seemingly irrespective of iq etc.

mircea_popescu: benkay has a point, but the matter is significantly complicated by a large enough population of functionally illiterate people who've been fed for decades on the illusion that someone else is there to protect them

mircea_popescu: and that they don't need to think or do any useful work or manage their own lives or contribute anything worth the mention.

mircea_popescu: put that together with a no-backsies medium and you're definitely attracting sharks.

mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/the-anatomy-of-a-scam/ << speaking of labcoin, check out the comments on this thing.

mircea_popescu: dexX7 wait, that's actually how we met isn't it

mircea_popescu: you ended up on the list there by virtue of being in the thread

mircea_popescu: working with nefario to invent the exchange of the future.

mircea_popescu: that moment when you transfer a btc to namecheap and can now afford to renew like a hundred domains.

mircea_popescu: well next year 10k.

mircea_popescu: it's a great name what are you on about

mircea_popescu: "Win a USD5000 Casino Holiday to Monaco" i'm like wut, 4 btc ? gtfo. make better prizes.

mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=133147.msg3775792#msg3775792 << chinese guy discovers elixir of youth.

mircea_popescu: "QUEEN LIZ is a company with private capital, founded in Constanta, Romania in 1996, having as main activity recruitment and placement of personnel according with Romanian laws."

mircea_popescu: twist : queen liz is one of the more famous female criminals of the prev century.

mircea_popescu: hi and nope

mircea_popescu: uyou ever seen a nonservice coming out of the us webservice-entrepreneurs dog and pony show that wasn't a. very banal and b. presented as the new wheel ?

mircea_popescu: o hey.

mircea_popescu: this'd be the first time anyone actually connected to the barfoundation actually did something.

mircea_popescu: lol

mircea_popescu: why is it that the state always tries to a. represent itself as "not the state" and b. represent itself as doing what people do, except without doing it ?

mircea_popescu: by now it's so regular it's a telltale sign already.

mircea_popescu: that was such a lulzy case

mircea_popescu: bet you it won't happen.

mircea_popescu: i doubt any western government has the ability to do obamacare.gov one better.

mircea_popescu: how about keeping your money, once an ex wife, tax authority or city council decides they would want to have it ?

mircea_popescu: right.

mircea_popescu: http://www.michigandaily.com/opinion/11jake-offenhartz-jerry-koch07

mircea_popescu: ok so, mpex options are back. they are now quoted on a .1 btc per basis,

mircea_popescu: the system is working under supervision and trades may be rolled back if problems appear

mircea_popescu: i'll make a statement once that's done.

mircea_popescu: jurov` ^ and everyone else quoting options scripturally, make sure you account for the lot change.

mircea_popescu: why so much lower than pirate.

mircea_popescu: well, better luck next time!

mircea_popescu: "Mourad Ikhlef, an Algerian living in Montreal who gained refugee status in 1994, was arrested in December 2001 and deported in February 2003, when he was handed over directly to Algerian intelligence services."

mircea_popescu: dude canada sounds like such a nice place.

mircea_popescu: that 500 is for 0.1 lots tho

mircea_popescu: it's 5k

mircea_popescu: basically it goes from 500 to 5k now. just smaller bits

mircea_popescu: :)

mircea_popescu: prolly.

mircea_popescu: diff to volatile to say or do much atm

mircea_popescu: yeah, eventually.

mircea_popescu: mod6 well... it's moreover not expected by april 10th

mircea_popescu: iirc their date was narrower

mircea_popescu: "While the sale of sexual intercourse remains illegal throughout mainland China, as of 2013 erotic massage, or more commonly known as massage with "happy endings," is legal in Guangdong province. In June of that year, the Foshan Court determined that the sale of erotic massage is not the same as prostitution."

mircea_popescu: china. a country nobody comprehends.

mircea_popescu: lol

mircea_popescu: interesting that the fragment am pt fares so much worse than the whole.

mircea_popescu: ;;calc 0.30101000 / 0.32980000

mircea_popescu: ;;calc 0.00287501 / 0.00335250

mircea_popescu: wider fluctuation, narrower volume

mircea_popescu: in theory the idea for making a "poor man's share" is that it will have more volume and more stability.

mircea_popescu: at least in a theoretical macroeconomic sense.

mircea_popescu: seems that while taxing the poor does in fact produce more revenue than taxing the rich, nevertheless giving the poor investment "voice" does not in fact produce more sense than the voice of the rich already provided.

mircea_popescu: or at least, this particular anecdotal situation fits well with that heavily ideologically slanted perspective.

mircea_popescu: kakobrekla yes it is.

mircea_popescu: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/54/Battle_of_britain_air_observer.jpg << the hipster of 1940

mircea_popescu: those look good on teeny chicks

mircea_popescu: what tool ?

mircea_popescu: pankkake they have a ipod app!

mircea_popescu: you know not all girls can cum by vibration alone ?

mircea_popescu: fuck, that's true.

mircea_popescu: still!

mircea_popescu: it's not, no.

mircea_popescu: you can train a woman to have an orgasm or not have an orgasm in certain circumstances like you can train a dog,

mircea_popescu: but absent such ellaborate work about a third of adult women can't orgasm with vibrators.

mircea_popescu: "As of this writing we have over 2.1 Million in sales for November, this excludes any fraudulent sales, I.e the $933,000 sales which was fraudulent and proven on the thread and a $3,000,000 sales which looks fraudulent. AMC expects its sales of VMC's Bitcoin mining machines to continue to grow as it has the highest TH/s machines in the marketplace."

mircea_popescu: dude check that out, 2/3 fraudulent ?

mircea_popescu: "We have ~106 BTC in the Bitfunder/WeExchange system which we can not obtain. We have sent Bitfunder's/WeExchange's Ukyo a Legal Demand For Payment within 72 hours. We expect this problem to result in the loss of the 106 BTC. "

mircea_popescu: herp.

mircea_popescu: the asicminer depr.

mircea_popescu: pankkake well OF COURSE he doesn't understand accounting. it's a forum corp after all.

mircea_popescu: o yeah activemining sorry.

mircea_popescu: by the way, here's a fun fact : ken's account was hijacked. the account was registered on oct 2010, and made exactly two posts by the original guy (both here : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=133.msg15893#msg15893 )

mircea_popescu: the next activity is in march 2013.

mircea_popescu: this exactly matches the labcoin scammers behaviour, which also used "reputable" forum accounts in this manner

mircea_popescu: in fact their mo exactly matches labcoin's too : buy some actual miners to create the illusion of activity,

mircea_popescu: then pump out a lot of nonsense about creating asics

mircea_popescu: i suppose these guys use avalons instead of bitfuries, but hey.

mircea_popescu: in fact, it wouldn't particularly surprise me if the same scammer ring ran both scams.

mircea_popescu: remember, it was a fact that the bitdaytrade disaster was run by j r owens / meni rosenfeld / etc.

mircea_popescu: the owens - kenna partnership means the brain of the scam ring is probably us based,

mircea_popescu: the italians are whatever, couriers.

mircea_popescu: this is also true.

mircea_popescu: but in this sense, so does inaba

mircea_popescu: doesn't mean he runs bfl.

mircea_popescu: anyway, that thread is funny because : http://blockchain.info/address/1HZNsUqQxKVLmfPfCAzLwrnVDzx8CxwxnM

mircea_popescu: 10k btc obtained by stealing 5btc out of every block mined by people using gpus and the guy's shady gpu miner.

mircea_popescu: back in 2010

mircea_popescu: that estimate is a hard problem because it revolves around the presumed "satoshi stash"

mircea_popescu: if he destroyed the keys it's lost.

mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/635/1btc-10-000-usd/ << check out the 10:1 on yes.

mircea_popescu: yeah

mircea_popescu: what do you mean more above 095 ?

mircea_popescu: yeah

mircea_popescu: 500 which means 5k in the old notation.

mircea_popescu: PRAGUE (AP) -- An online exchange that trades the digital currency bitcoin in the Czech Republic says it has been attacked by hackers.

mircea_popescu: The website Bitcash.cz says its security system was broken and bitcoins from its clients were stolen late Monday.

mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/629/mt-gox-fails-to-list-litecoin/ << i dig the 33/33 split lol

mircea_popescu: meanwhile @serious bzns ranch, http://bitbet.us/bet/635/1btc-10-000-usd/

mircea_popescu: pankkake re https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=271711.msg3233099#msg3233099 they're in the order they appeared as blog headers on trilema. not quite chronological.

mircea_popescu: left one is lowell, mass cca 2005, middle one is timisoara cca 2010, right one is either the golden horn or the nile, cca 2003

mircea_popescu: i dun recall which

mircea_popescu: feed it various eclairs.

mircea_popescu: lol

mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=353439.0 << Duffer1's story. not a bad read.

mircea_popescu: i think the guy has some literary talent, tbh. "Hindsight is a mean old witch that makes my chest hurt when I look at her" seems especially apt.

mircea_popescu: well that's the problem with scammers. they get nice guys too.

mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/519/btc-network-difficulty-to-top-1b-before-2014/

mircea_popescu: even money, seriously ?!

mircea_popescu: .d

mircea_popescu: no fucking way it gets 40% in 3 weeks

mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo lol you're like the boyscouts

mircea_popescu: pankkake this has happened ?

mircea_popescu: i think if cardano actually makes xmas this will be the first time in the history of bitcoin anything was shipped on time

mircea_popescu: o, but that was the 2nd bet, of the euro merchantr guy

mircea_popescu: they blew their original one by like a week iirc

mircea_popescu: or someting really close like that, it was kinda sad.

mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=349405.0;all

mircea_popescu: check that out, there exist womenz on btctalk.

mircea_popescu: jurov` incredible innit.

mircea_popescu: https://images.weserv.nl/?url=www.onefunsite.com/images/donkey.jpg&fnr << someone should ipo that donkey.

mircea_popescu: to.the.moon.

mircea_popescu: sounds right

mircea_popescu: btctalk.org/1g2d

mircea_popescu: basically that chick just wanted to post her pics

mircea_popescu: https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i.imgur.com/Fgwqlbd.jpg&fnr

mircea_popescu: it gets buttcoiny eventually

mircea_popescu: but anyway, self exposure is a female sexual behaviour, yes.

mircea_popescu: much like rape is a male sexual behaviour.

mircea_popescu: fun fact :

mircea_popescu: ;;calc 7127000000 / 21000000

mircea_popescu: anyone owning a full bitcoin has the bitcoin of 339 people.

mircea_popescu: uyah give or take a few chinese child labourers etc.

mircea_popescu: notrly, in that

mircea_popescu: there's about 10trn in us dollars + about 10-15 trn in other currencies.

mircea_popescu: if you have three grand you have the dollars of one person.

mircea_popescu: course that discussion gets complicated fast as contrary to popular belief a fiat unit of currency does not mean any one thing in particular,

mircea_popescu: unlike bitcoin.

mircea_popescu: looks like a cat.

mircea_popescu: ;;ident mircea_popescu

mircea_popescu: um

mircea_popescu: ;;eauth mircea_popescu

mircea_popescu: ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:b27c73691ef33ac1e797307583de3e79732f35d1b565843c7204d13c

mircea_popescu: ;;rate tradefortress -1 seems he ran off with ~4k

mircea_popescu: ;;rate ukto -1 Messy Bitfunder closedown ☟︎

mircea_popescu: ;;rate asciilifeform 3 S.NSA engineer.

mircea_popescu: is he in the wot even ?

mircea_popescu: ;;gettrust burnside

mircea_popescu: ;;rate burnside -3 ran a scam enabling "exchange". ask duffer1 how well that worked.

mircea_popescu: ;;gettrust tytus

mircea_popescu: ;;rate tytus -1 Ran a fake exchange which was fake hacked. Compulsive liar.

mircea_popescu: o ic.

mircea_popescu: what did topace do !?

mircea_popescu: ya well, failing your own ipo isn't exactly grounds for impeachment.

mircea_popescu: "OpenCoin, the company overseeing Ripple, has already raised venture capital from firms led by the co-founders of PayPal and Netscape. These firms do not invest in scams, but in companies with unique ideas that will turn a significant profit if successful."

mircea_popescu: the form of that i personally love is

mircea_popescu: In support of their argument that the Agreement preserves liability only for malicious breaches, defendants argue that the word “willful” would be unnecessary unless it meant “malicious.” There is no reason to limit liability to breaches that are intentional, they claim, because any breach of this Agreement would be intentional—”heavily counseled parties to mega-mergers do not breach merger agreements out o

mircea_popescu: f inadvertence, negligence, or mistake.” As a factual matter, this claim is questionable. It could just as well be said that heavily counseled parties to mega-mergers do not sign merger agreements containing glaringly ambiguous terms that lead to avoidable litigation—but here we are.

mircea_popescu: lynch is generally a pretty cool cat.

mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/notorious-mp-layin-down-that-subliminal-shit-na-mean/ << thestringpuller nao you can hate me.

mircea_popescu: which is ok, but they talk too much/

mircea_popescu: actyually, heavy metal lacks boobage.

mircea_popescu: if someone did a metal album that had 2+ nipples visible at all times + 2-3 snatches per clip

mircea_popescu: it'd probably even things out

mircea_popescu: kakobrekla i see your bregovic and i give you http://www.youtube.com/embed/5-5mYfDaDGo

mircea_popescu: (bare cunt included)

mircea_popescu: meh they censored it

mircea_popescu: idjits.

mircea_popescu: the actual videoclip shows the stripper quite pink.

mircea_popescu: pankkake a step in the right direction, but fucking tame. what's with the shy attitude on the girl ?

mircea_popescu: and yeah it's romanian. here, have moar http://www.youtube.com/embed/3NaQDR_JnQo

mircea_popescu: best videoclip that year.

mircea_popescu: yeah dude. it shocked me wehn it came out, i'm not exactly easy to shock.

mircea_popescu: anyway, get a chick a twin axe larger than her torso and a spiky half cup corset, you're moving towards metal with a prayer at relevance.

mircea_popescu: ppl got issues.

mircea_popescu: and wtf's with all the furtive shots.

mircea_popescu: dude, shoot the tits, that's what they're for, jesus.

mircea_popescu: there should be a class in cinema school, dedicated to explaining to the kids that cuts are evil.

mircea_popescu: never cut, anything, ever. let the pov flow.

mircea_popescu: it doesn't fucking work. just get better actors and better writing.

mircea_popescu: this is like "add pepper to rotten meat, fixes the dish". no... it doesn't.

mircea_popescu: lol i scared jurov` into hedging

mircea_popescu: dun worry dude, i'm not betting on that.

mircea_popescu: wow labco still trading ?!

mircea_popescu: maybe forgotten bid got sold into

mircea_popescu: or that.

mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=350103.msg3785519#msg3785519

mircea_popescu: look, they are on to pankkake !

mircea_popescu: i am jesus. even professional trolls can't find anything bad to say about me.

mircea_popescu: allow me to fart a rainbow.

mircea_popescu: "You charge a $540 set up fee!!! What the hell have you been smoking?

mircea_popescu: You can forget it."

mircea_popescu: this was back in april.

mircea_popescu: good times.

mircea_popescu: doesn't have to mean anything.

mircea_popescu: "You will find out that Tradefortress is involved in fraudulent activities since his inception in this forum."

mircea_popescu: inception ?

mircea_popescu: how ? no womenz.

mircea_popescu: meh, youtube won;'t share because some corporation

mircea_popescu: but it's not l;ike i don't know type0-

mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/567/simona-halep-to-win-roland-garros/

mircea_popescu: if the bitch wins i'm gonna party so hard...

mircea_popescu: notrly. my line is that tit tissue must be conserved, so i'll use the winnings to get c cup chicks double d'd up.

mircea_popescu: "I'm thinking of starting a company that will invest in HYIPs with Liberty Reserve. Generally, HYIPs stay afloat for a few months and then disappear after there is not enough new members joining to pay back the previous ones. I will attempt to minimize the risk by spreading it out and withdrawing early, not keeping it inside the scams. Interest will be around 7% weekly, and it's not a ponzi scheme! Because of diversifi

mircea_popescu: cation and strategic withdraws (everyone who withdrawn from Pirate before the default profited massively), I should be able to provide high returns at moderate risk."

mircea_popescu: guess who.

mircea_popescu: lol

mircea_popescu: yeah, because gold is doing real good. i'd definitely want to be tied to it.

mircea_popescu: "let's make something tptb have every reason to hate, then let's base it on something tptb have every reason to control. it can

mircea_popescu: 't miss"