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mircea_popescu: http://www.pleated-jeans.com/2012/02/17/this-crazy-girls-texting-tops-them-all/
mircea_popescu: this is kinda lulzy.
smickles: oh yeah https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=74216.msg1341673#msg1341673
kakobrekla: i will never see my ss coins.
kakobrekla: goddamn nazis.
smickles: kakobrekla: well, once i consolidate them, you can see them all you want
smickles: heh, lost nazi coins
kakobrekla: smickles
kakobrekla: i want to see the private parts of em
kakobrekla: ;)
smickles: :o
smickles: jezus mircea_popescu that link, it goes on forever
kakobrekla: meh redditors.
kakobrekla: sex is overrated.
mircea_popescu: smickles the link that keeps on giving
mircea_popescu: how much capital in the ss thing ?
smickles: under 400 in btc and about 300 worth of obligations to ss
mircea_popescu: bitter but not the end of the world.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40150 @ 0.00049704 = 19.9562 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1968 @ 0.00049729 = 0.9787 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: lol
thestringpuller: kakobrekla: funny
thestringpuller: smickles: you around?
smickles: thestringpuller: yup
smickles: coding and waiting for a chain to sync
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 11.72288, Best ask: 11.72418, Bid-ask spread: 0.00130, Last trade: 11.72288, 24 hour volume: 19759.87479185, 24 hour low: 11.52000, 24 hour high: 11.80000, 24 hour vwap: 11.67289
mircea_popescu: ;;google gpg contracts
gribble: GPG contracts pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/2012/gpg-contracts/>; GPG Chapter II: <http://www.nsf.gov/pubs/policydocs/pappguide/nsf11001/gpg_2.jsp>; FAQs - National Science Foundation: <http://www.nsf.gov/pubs/gpg/faqs.pdf>
mircea_popescu: ok, i rule.
thestringpuller: i will google warfare you
mircea_popescu: go ahead, that domain is a fucking battleship
BTCHero: TheButterZone: if you ever decide to leave -otc are you going to unrate everyone first?http://pastebin.com/rjchDV9v
BTCHero: [B[B[B
BTCHero: llllcccccc5;3~cccccv
BTCHero: [B[B[B
mircea_popescu: ?
thestringpuller: Is it human?
pigeons: clipboard issues
BTCHero: whoops
BTCHero: sorry
BTCHero: Daughter got ahold of the keyboard
smickles: I was just asked if we have a claim process ready for if glbse never gives out info
pigeons: in most cases i don't see how it could be done
smickles: 'zactly
smickles: I said that if a good process becomes known, we'll use it
mircea_popescu: everyone's asked this and nobody'll have a good answer.
mircea_popescu: teh people will be pissy.
smickles: am i doing this wrong?
smickles: ;;calc 50*6*24*30*[ticker --last]
gribble: 2550957.84
pigeons: /2
pigeons: ;)
smickles: soon
smickles: ;s
smickles: so soon
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 4 @ 0.10733077 = 0.4293 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: what's that ? six months worth of bitcoins ?
smickles: one month
mircea_popescu: a yeah
mircea_popescu: tho im pretty sure there's barely two weeks left.
mircea_popescu: more like 10 days
smickles: yeah, but it means that the miners ar prolly using or saving most of the generated btc recently
smickles: 'cause if they were selling it, it'd tank the price
smickles: well, maybe i'm wrong here,
mircea_popescu: alternatively, it means that mtgox's marketshare leaking has been going steady and possibly aggravating
mircea_popescu: to the point they don't have half the market.
smickles: mtgox 30day volume is 10mil usd
mircea_popescu: i fear they went from two thirds this spring to something like 40% today.
smickles: well, i'll calc that # right now
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 11.79000, Best ask: 11.81000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02000, Last trade: 11.79000, 24 hour volume: 19628.77008381, 24 hour low: 11.52000, 24 hour high: 11.81000, 24 hour vwap: 11.67984
mircea_popescu: i guess we see 12 soon
smickles: 30 day volume of all bitcoincharts reporting exchanges (except gox)
smickles: 642026
smickles: gox
smickles: 972593
smickles: ;;calc 972593/(972593+642026)
gribble: 0.602366874167
Bugpowder: gox deposits were totally fucked up from USA last month
Bugpowder: don't know if that has changed
Bugpowder: BofA blacklist
mircea_popescu: smickles you realise plenty of trade happens otc
mircea_popescu: o look, it's Bugpowder
mircea_popescu: how you been ?
Bugpowder: busy
Bugpowder: I see I should have held onto my MPOE stock
mircea_popescu: better busy than dead
mircea_popescu: o, you sold ?
Bugpowder: could have made all the fucked up losses back
Bugpowder: story of the bitcoin stock world
Bugpowder: at least MPCD.A was good
mircea_popescu: naw, story of the bitcoin stock world is moar like http://trilema.com/2012/icbitse-the-bucket-shop/
smickles: mircea_popescu: yeah, we can't discount otc trading
mircea_popescu: o, btw, patrick harnett has scammer tag now.
Bugpowder: Paid Content This article is available for a fee.
mircea_popescu: aww!
Bugpowder: heh
mircea_popescu: hey, you been reading it ?!
Bugpowder: getting up to date on the latest
mircea_popescu: so pay me! :D
Bugpowder: GLBSE paid me my coins, but not my stock
Bugpowder: how many credits per article
mircea_popescu: 1
Bugpowder: cheaper than the time
Bugpowder: times
mircea_popescu: that's the idea.
smickles: mircea_popescu is clearly making a living off of trilema credits
mircea_popescu: lol. actually, it was making ok money before mpex.
smickles: ;;sell 900 "Trilema Credits" at .1 BTC
gribble: Order id 11746 created.
mircea_popescu: ahahah
smickles: may as well test the waters ;)
thestringpuller: ;;bc
gribble: Error: "bc" is not a valid command.
Bugpowder: I wonder how much I could make off my blog with Adsense
mircea_popescu: you have a blog ?
Bugpowder: yeah
Bugpowder: popular in the science world
smickles: Bugpowder: i heard that the various btc ad networks pay better
mircea_popescu: lol so link it
Bugpowder: I think the most profits would be direct negotiation with companies
Bugpowder: because its specialized
Bugpowder: http://brainwindows.org
mircea_popescu: genetics ?
mircea_popescu: pretty cool.
smickles: "The field of connectomics …." /me has some research to do now
smickles: i must know what connectomics is in detail
Bugpowder: cv is out of date
Bugpowder: Let me update that link
mircea_popescu: so basically guy is a brain surgeon :D
smickles: mircea_popescu: lol, i feel little now, my blog is all of two piddly unimportant links, this guy's blog is interesting science
mircea_popescu: well so you just started.
smickles: (wait for it)
smickles: ACCOUNTING!
smickles: totally got to write about the 'merican transition to fair value accounting methods
mircea_popescu: lol. the us is never moving to fair value.
mircea_popescu: it can't, by now.
Bugpowder: mouse neurosurgeon
Bugpowder: much more difficult
Bugpowder: everything is smaller
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder you're gonna steal all oru womenz
Bugpowder: but... if you fuck up, get a new one
mircea_popescu: hahaha you ever watch seinfeld ? is this episode which includes the need for very small instruments
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu watches seinfeld? hahaha
Bugpowder: I am not familiar with that episode, they only play the same 10 episodes in syndication
mircea_popescu: i have the whole collection, i musta seen each episode a dozen times
mircea_popescu: http://www.seinfeldscripts.com/TheMervGriffinShow.htm
mircea_popescu: that's the onwe
Bugpowder: smickles This is a reasonable intro to connectomics... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwjcLKegBfg He is the one stealing all the women btw.
Bugpowder: I am married
smickles: Bugpowder: tkx :)\
mircea_popescu: being married makes it worse.
Bugpowder: hehe
Bugpowder: Wow. Mariota is fast
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10032 @ 0.00049729 = 4.9888 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38100 @ 0.00049733 = 18.9483 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41347 @ 0.00049744 = 20.5677 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18500 @ 0.00049753 = 9.2043 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24700 @ 0.00049762 = 12.2912 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31102 @ 0.00050058 = 15.569 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12213 @ 0.00050064 = 6.1143 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55400 @ 0.00050068 = 27.7377 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27650 @ 0.00050073 = 13.8452 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38950 @ 0.00050081 = 19.5065 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26447 @ 0.00050082 = 13.2452 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9693 @ 0.00050087 = 4.8549 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34967 @ 0.00050092 = 17.5157 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47500 @ 0.00050376 = 23.9286 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31700 @ 0.00050381 = 15.9708 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28550 @ 0.00050382 = 14.3841 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19650 @ 0.00050383 = 9.9003 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36650 @ 0.00050388 = 18.4672 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19504 @ 0.00050392 = 9.8285 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48243 @ 0.00050394 = 24.3116 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41600 @ 0.00050395 = 20.9643 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51500 @ 0.00050395 = 25.9534 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4650 @ 0.00050395 = 2.3434 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51005 @ 0.000504 = 25.7065 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30605 @ 0.000504 = 15.4249 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29200 @ 0.00050401 = 14.7171 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45650 @ 0.00050402 = 23.0085 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31001 @ 0.00050403 = 15.6254 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31100 @ 0.00050404 = 15.6756 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00050412 = 3.4784 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33462 @ 0.00050412 = 16.8689 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37280 @ 0.00050413 = 18.794 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5149 @ 0.00050415 = 2.5959 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: hmm
pigeons: don't input those "random numbers" into gribble's calculator
smickles: lol
mircea_popescu: o hey
mircea_popescu: pigeons inaba was cute, seeing how he's a sort of bfl-pr
mircea_popescu: sans teh brasiere.
thestringpuller: is that a joke because mpoe-pr doesn't wear a brasiere?
pigeons: mircea_popescu thinks that inaba doesn't wear one
mircea_popescu: he does ?!
mircea_popescu: til.
pigeons: i didn't say he does. i just think you're being a little hasty saying he doesn't
mircea_popescu: lolk
smickles: I was going to bid .0009 for some options,
smickles: bot came along and bid .07
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P110T] 4 @ 0.07 = 0.28 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: :)
mircea_popescu: 110t, that has a good chance to expire worthless i guess
mircea_popescu: pigeons but anyway, what's the latest word on bfl delivery ? december ?
mircea_popescu: (i don't follow mining much)
pigeons: i haven't been following it either. one of the other compies (bASIC?) sent customers and email that their orders were "ready to ship" and they are the first asic miner company ready to ship (just as soon as they assemble and test them)
mircea_popescu: only in bitcoinland untested and unassembled items are "ready to ship"
smickles: lol, ready to ship, but we need to build them and see if they work firs
thestringpuller: XD
mircea_popescu: it's like... see this pile of wood over here my good man smickles ?
mircea_popescu: this is your ready to ship kitchen table
smickles: mircea_popescu == ikea?
mircea_popescu: ahaha! basikea!
pigeons: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=125588.0
mircea_popescu: isn't this cablepair's thing ?
pigeons: yes
pigeons: they printed the shipping invoices too, so they are ready
mircea_popescu: btcfpga ?
mircea_popescu: didn't even know those existed
mircea_popescu: buzzdave
mircea_popescu: Head of PR for BTCFPGA
mircea_popescu: Global Moderator
mircea_popescu: no this isn't basic. apparently a different one ?
pigeons: ah, it seems bfl componenets are "being loaded on a truck" for assembly when they arrive
mircea_popescu: How are the numbers looking for Batch1?
mircea_popescu: -I've got a pretty solid handle on number of units paid with BTC and completed Credit Cards. However I have over 350 54G units for which the credit card payments need to be verified. If every single one of those orders reconciles to a payment (doubtful), we'll be at around 800 of the 54G units paid for and in the ship-pile.
mircea_popescu: wait, they sold 800 units so took like 1mn ?!
pigeons: yeah
pigeons: look at the price of that product
mircea_popescu: like 1k no ?
pigeons: yeah i thought 1200 for the 54g
pigeons: man i am the least informed on bitcoin asic miners anyway
mircea_popescu: so these guys got 1mn in, bfl took something like 5-6 ?
mircea_popescu: overall the market is like10mn for these things.
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 25 * 6 * 24 * 30 * 12
gribble: 1296000
mircea_popescu: they're all fighting (with the current miners) for a 1,3 btc stake the next year.
mircea_popescu: 1,3mn btc
mircea_popescu: i suspect tears.
smickles: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=126415.msg1342108#msg1342108
smickles: ;;title
gribble: (title <url>) -- Returns the HTML <title>...</title> of a URL.
smickles: ;;title https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=126415.msg1342108#msg1342108
gribble: Private school is child slavery!!!
Bugpowder: mircea_popescu Mining is a loser game
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder well... i kinda stayed out of it.
Bugpowder: unless you are first
smickles: Bugpowder: not if the tax deduction is taken into account, and you planned to pay taxes in the first place
Bugpowder: tax deduction??
mircea_popescu: smickles in an economy as shitty as this tax credits aren't worht the mention
mircea_popescu: i have tax credits coming out my ears.
smickles: business can deduct expenses, like equipment purchases
Bugpowder: deductions are going bye bye
Bugpowder: yeah ok
Bugpowder: business
mircea_popescu: well ofcourse business.
Bugpowder: "business"
mircea_popescu: smickles i could probably bill an aditional 1-200k euros and not pay 100 euros more in tax atm for instance.
Bugpowder: how many of these people are even sole proprietor?
Bugpowder: 90% of the buyers don't have a 'business' officially set up
smickles: mircea_popescu: yeah, i have too many deductions
mircea_popescu: true.
smickles: and because the 'merican tax system is fucked,
smickles: not only did i not pay fed income tax,
smickles: they gave me 5kusd
pigeons: oh mircea_popescu, i thought for curiouslty you might be interested in the new litecoin global TOS.
pigeons: http://pastebin.com/7y9ck6i1
mircea_popescu: litecoin has a tos ?!
mircea_popescu: that's outrageous
mircea_popescu: o, the exchange, not the coin itself nm
mircea_popescu: "The Corporation has zero legal tender exposure in any jurisdiction."
mircea_popescu: heh. i recall the day mpoe-pr turned the tide on the sec panic. i suppose i shall be the only one to recall this.
mircea_popescu: anyway, someone spent a day dilligently hammering c/p'd bits together, i call this progress.
smickles: lol, they have, in their tos, made the "it's not legal tender, so it's not illegal' argument?
mircea_popescu: of sorts.
pigeons: they are now run by BTC-TRADING, INC and so they changed the TOS to what I linked
smickles: lol, 53 lines into it "We urge you to carefully read the Terms and Conditions of this Agreement and all other policies and disclosure statements referenced here or elsewhere on the website. Such policies are incorporated into this Agreement by reference and collectively form part of this Agreement."
smickles: they wait 53 lines to say that you should read it
pigeons: your litecoins magically become "LITS" when you deposit them
pigeons: in case you thought litecoins were legal tender somewhere
mircea_popescu: who's doing this anyway ?
pigeons: burnside is the guy's handle
smickles: nefario-jr
mircea_popescu: ;;gettrust burnside
gribble: Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user burnside: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=mircea_popescu&dest=burnside
mircea_popescu: ravishing.
smickles: i wish gribble reported l3 trust to, labeling it something like 'Tanya down the street\'s rating'
pigeons: anyway, the btc version is in testing,further along than asics
Bugpowder: A lawyer friend was not impressed with the monopoly money SEC defense argument btw...
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder anything more concrete than that ?
Bugpowder: he is not a securities lawyer
Bugpowder: but he provided a bit of analysis
smickles: do you think that the romanian regulators would see it the same way
smickles: there has to be the law violated, not the precedent of other judgements iirc
Bugpowder: I'll post it on Trilema
mircea_popescu: that works. do you ahve the link ?
Bugpowder: yeah
smickles: http://trilema.com/2012/the-reasons-why-bitcoin-securities-cant-be-regulated-by-the-sec/
smickles: mircea_popescu: where does the file have to be located for your avatar grabber to grab it?
smickles: and what is the code to do that?
pigeons: oh here are the LTC-GLOBAL terms for creating an asset. The other one was for investors, err regular players of the simulation game: https://www.litecoinglobal.com/create
mircea_popescu: smickles in the url you declare.
mircea_popescu: the page simply lists your avatar as <img src=your_url/avatar.png>
smickles: based off of the website feild or the server of the email field?
mircea_popescu: This is accomplished by selling a true .virtual. ownership interest in the company to investors.
mircea_popescu: lets not make sense
mircea_popescu: smickles the website field.
Bugpowder: posted
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder well... there's an answer.
pigeons: does googlebot have to pay the credit fee
mircea_popescu: pigeons eheheh yep
mircea_popescu: smickles your avatar worx nao
smickles: it's worked for as long as I have tried to have it work
pigeons: why does nobody hold title to any inputs?
pigeons: i thought private key of the address was so
smickles: pigeons: the btc was there already, no owner ... as i vaugely recall
smickles: and you don't become the owner by having a priv key associated with a btc
pigeons: why not though?
smickles: because you don't control the btc, it stays where it always was?
pigeons: ok thanks
mircea_popescu: pigeons title tho.
mircea_popescu: you have the address so you have the control of the sum. that's posession.
mircea_popescu: whence do you have the title ?
smickles: can you have title to something that the state doesn't give title for?
mircea_popescu: do you mean to claim allodial title, as in, you were given it by god ?
pigeons: yes
mircea_popescu: or else, is it fee simple ? is it from the monarch ? whence do you have it ?
smickles: pigeons: i have title over this domain
smickles: http://www.encyclopediabitcoinica.com/wiki/Smickles#Titles
mircea_popescu: smickles do you know about the writing contest btw ?
smickles: I should scrabble together something at least
pigeons: there is work on using bitcoin as a title system to real word assets also
pigeons: maybe namecoin is better for that casue you can also add values i dont know
mircea_popescu: well, you're conflating distinct things.
Bugpowder: sigh
mircea_popescu: that the bitcoin protocol may well be used or useful as a record of title is not too relevant in a discussion of actual title to bitcoins
Bugpowder: satoshidice
Bugpowder: just took my glbse moneys
pigeons: yes i see your point mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: apparently it's making money this month
mircea_popescu: are you halping Bugpowder ?
smickles: Bugpowder: as a shareholder, thankyou
mircea_popescu: lol
pigeons: does last month's satoshi dice loss come out of any dividends this month?
Bugpowder: 27 straight losses
Bugpowder: pigeons yes
mircea_popescu: (f)Immediately upon publication of each Statement of Profit and Loss SatoshiDice will pay to shareholders as dividends a fraction of no less than 100% (one hundred percent) of the Net Profits, if any.
pigeons: ok keep playing then a little more please Bugpowder
mircea_popescu: (h)In case of a monthly loss (which will occur occasionally due to the nature of statistical variance of bets), the loss amount will be carried over to the next month’s profits when calculating Net Profits.
mircea_popescu: yeah, it carries over.
smickles: pigeons: the dooglas chart shows that it's been overcome
smickles: (even accounting for the bitcoin friday donation)
mircea_popescu: smickles what's the numbers ? so i don't have to load the forum
Bugpowder: It's up 3000BTC
mircea_popescu: a not bad.
mircea_popescu: course... a coupla weeks to go, could do -5000 a day or w/e
mircea_popescu: Upon such sale of stock, the owners, officers, and executives of the selling company obligate themselves with a fiduciary responsibility to the shareholders.
mircea_popescu: jesus christ, people with a thesaurus should stop writing lawyeresque prose.
Bugpowder: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=80312.460
mircea_popescu: betraying a complete lack of understanding of even the most basic notions.
smickles: mircea_popescu: about 15000 - 8000 - 2000
smickles: total profit nao, total profit at beginning of month, last months loss
mircea_popescu: ya seems up a good amt. cool.
smickles: #'s just from eyeballing chart
smickles: oh yeah, tack on a - 400 for the donation
smickles: do you really need to imagine?
smickles: voting power == short term gain is the ultimate goal
smickles: day-over-day, month-over-month, year-over-year
mircea_popescu: moreover, evoorhees would have ended up spending 4k bitcoins in handling the entire process.
mircea_popescu: whoever the fuck thought btc shares should have voting power.
smickles: ;;calc 5000 / 100000000
gribble: 5e-05
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker s.dice
gribble: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid (1 more message)
mircea_popescu: !ticker s.dice
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00339944 / 0.00339944 / 0.00339944 (5000 shares, 17.00 BTC), 30day: 0.00180002 / 0.00332998 / 0.0034 (1005363 shares, 3,347.84 BTC)
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 5000 / 100000000/0.00332998
gribble: 0.0150151051958
mircea_popescu: 1.5%
smickles: shit, thats' ... i was about to say
mircea_popescu: pretty significant.
smickles: looks like my accidentally buying 50 btc worth of shares will pay off
smickles: {just kidding}
pigeons: oh hey mircea_popescu i know you don't go to the playground anymore, but they mentioned just now in -otc that black lotus ddos mitigation is accepting btc, and forbes is starting to pump them for an ip
pigeons: http://www.forbes.com/sites/petercohan/2012/09/06/can-black-lotus-break-through-its-glass-ceiling/2/
mircea_popescu: pretty cool.
pigeons: i want another ticker symbol on mpex, at least for when giga goes away
mircea_popescu: (and yes i lolled at the time glbse was protected by cloudflare)
pigeons: :)
mircea_popescu: well, but anyway, do they want to list on mpex or what ?
pigeons: i'm just giving your pr chick a lead
pigeons: i'm sure with her people skills they will sign right up :)
mircea_popescu: asshat :D
mircea_popescu: is any of their actual people around tho ?
pigeons: i just heard about them
mircea_popescu: lol k.
mircea_popescu: http://thenextweb.com/insider/2012/11/17/anonymous-takes-down-countless-israeli-sites-wipes-databases-leaks-emails-addresses-and-passwords/
mircea_popescu: in other news, israel sites suck worse than bitcoin sites.
mircea_popescu: also, anonymous are fuckwits. defending palestine wtf.
pigeons: oh BL are also using bitpay like wordpress. you need to list bitpay
mircea_popescu: ya, but i think they're tempted to try listing for fiat.
pigeons: well i know someone at bfl you can talk to...
pigeons: ok enough, i'll be here all week
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: is inaba even AT bfl ?
mircea_popescu: i thought they just hired a forum guy
smickles: http://blog.smickles.com/bitcoin-2/bitcoin-finance/a-good-month-for-s-dice-shareholders-in-the-making/
smickles: bwahahah!
mircea_popescu: lol the blog bug, it's growing
pigeons: waiting for the S.DICE trades to come streaming in
mircea_popescu: make your links active, tho, and use something like WP-Footnotes for footnotes
smickles: pigeons: because I have a massive readership
smickles: mircea_popescu: ah, right
pigeons: yes you should be careful not to manipulate the market with your clout
smickles: howto footnote....
mircea_popescu: im off. gl all!
mircea_popescu: "This post is a piece of sheer brilliance. A tour de force. Perfect clarity, insightful, no holds barred…priceless."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16878 @ 0.0005007 = 8.4508 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.88287601 = 882.876 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1000 @ 0.78123286 = 781.2329 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P180T] 1000 @ 0.68079643 = 680.7964 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 1000 @ 0.48605987 = 486.0599 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P170T] 1000 @ 0.58212876 = 582.1288 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P150T] 1000 @ 0.39378654 = 393.7865 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell bugpoweder http://trilema.com/2012/in-re-philosophy-freedom-of-scientific-information/
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10072 @ 0.0005007 = 5.0431 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23988 @ 0.00050077 = 12.0125 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3890 @ 0.00050089 = 1.9485 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: mornin
mircea_popescu: eya.
kakobrekla: did i miss any drama?
mircea_popescu: notrly.
kakobrekla: dammit :(
mircea_popescu: i thought you were on vacation
kakobrekla: came back just now, made it a little shorter.
mircea_popescu: :p
kakobrekla: vacations is just blowing money.
mircea_popescu: hahaha i see
mircea_popescu: well, bitcoin drama stocks are running real low
mircea_popescu: watch price drop soon
kakobrekla: :D
mircea_popescu: http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/134739086022.jpg << proper vacation
kakobrekla: why is this pic from the back?
kakobrekla: you need to paste one from the front.
mircea_popescu: it is from the front...
kakobrekla: ITS NOT
kakobrekla: :p
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135318434986.jpg
kakobrekla: thats right.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7860 @ 0.00050089 = 3.937 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20562 @ 0.00050094 = 10.3003 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21028 @ 0.000501 = 10.535 BTC [+]
FabianB: mircea_popescu: which drama do you expect to put pressure on the price?
mircea_popescu: something good
mircea_popescu: like... if bfl accused some compertitor that it broke into their lab and stole their pringles
FabianB: lol
mircea_popescu: or if mtgox accidentally cc'd the entire userbase
mircea_popescu: o no wait, that's already done.
FabianB: hehe, so why do you expect something like that now?
mircea_popescu: force of habit i guess
FabianB: something like that happens all the time it seems, but hard to predict, just like price changes
FabianB: thought you had some insider info ;)
mircea_popescu: sadly i do not
mircea_popescu: incidentalyl, this is moderately interesting http://irdial.com/blogdial/?p=3445
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13672 @ 0.000501 = 6.8497 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6928 @ 0.000501 = 3.4709 BTC [+]
JWU42: I see usagi is back
JWU42: or - has been I suppose
JWU42: do't read forums or IRC much anymore
kakobrekla: hi JWU42, welcome back from the dead :p
JWU42: nice to be back - all well?
kakobrekla: give or take. :)
kakobrekla: you still hashin away?
JWU42: short of giving away far too mcuh BTC to shithead cammers like P and Nef
JWU42: yep - 38 Gh/s +/-
kakobrekla: aha
kakobrekla: did you opt for an upgrade or no?
JWU42: yeah - thankfully i did take those BTC from my P account
kakobrekla: ;>
JWU42: so not all lost
kakobrekla: if bfl delivers ;)
JWU42: heh
JWU42: I am not worried about that frankly
kakobrekla: what calmed you down?
JWU42: but like the single - they said October it ended up being February
JWU42: ASIC might be the same
kakobrekla: might??
kakobrekla: arent they 'late' as we speak
JWU42: yep
kakobrekla: and then josh goes preaching to mp
kakobrekla: what a jackass.
JWU42: I felt the odds of them hitting October were < 1%
kakobrekla: hehe
EskimoBob: damn, why isn't there a backup available from Securities forum before this usagi the ass-hat deleted all his posts.
JWU42: Not sure what Josh said to MP - but he and MP are both strong personalities - not suprising they clash from time to time
kakobrekla: build something like 4chan archive for bitcointalke EskimoBob :)
EskimoBob: kakobrekla: out of what? Snow? :)
EskimoBob: I am not a programmer
temp_kluge: No guruvan today? Could someone tell him to unblock me on the forum when he comes around? ;)
kakobrekla: you can hire one.
kakobrekla: :p
EskimoBob: guruvan? The Trendons shill
kakobrekla: eh?
temp_kluge: Idunno. I just know I can't send him PMs and he did a BDK->BDK.BND exchange a while ago but hasn't filed a claim, yet.
kakobrekla: erryone is fuckin milky shill puppet these days.
EskimoBob: same fuck who uses //// or something like that as a username in btst channel?
mircea_popescu: JWU42 post-btcfailure depression ?
kakobrekla: EskimoBob /// is imsaguy
EskimoBob: OK, sorry
JWU42: I am well passed that now MP - but was not fun for a while
mircea_popescu: well good to hear
JWU42: self induced though - so just disappointed in myself
mircea_popescu: but tbh i didn't think they can make october either.
mircea_popescu: don't be too harsh, it's a learning process.
temp_kluge: (oh - then thanks /// - I did get what you sent on the 14th. Tried calling a week or two ago)
mircea_popescu: most traders worth their salt in the city blew a LOT more than the dollar equiv of a few k btc.
EskimoBob: who cares what others did :)
kakobrekla: temp_kluge who are you talking to?
kakobrekla: ah
temp_kluge: to ///
kakobrekla: imsa is here
mircea_popescu: you need the [s
kakobrekla: ya
kakobrekla: [\\\]
mircea_popescu: [\\\] like that.
kakobrekla: like this.
kakobrekla: lol
temp_kluge: oh - I mean \\\
kakobrekla: and the square brackets
kakobrekla: and milk.
EskimoBob: use [\\\]
mircea_popescu: EskimoBob kakobrekla has a point. someoneshould archive btctalk
temp_kluge: I pm'd. Not used to web client, but normal clients refuse to connect to Freenode anymore. Using mobile tether for Internet.
temp_kluge: Someone come up with a Bitcoin-like decentralized solution for asset issuance/trading, yet?
smickles: colored coins seem to be proof-of-worky
smickles: and I think i recall one issure switching to them
EskimoBob: btctalk archive is nice but lots of important stuff is missing by now.
mircea_popescu: well... it'd be for the future obviously
mircea_popescu: smickles the big problem, of course, being that with no gatekeepers it'll be glbse v2.0
mircea_popescu: http://i.imgur.com/h1GZG.gif
smickles: it has that risk and likelyhood, certainly
smickles: hopefully there are some diamonds in the rough
smickles: or
mircea_popescu: ya but... disaster of commons.
EskimoBob: if you have loads of hdd space and access to unlimited bandwidth, even wget can build a archive of bitcointalk.
smickles: hopefully, if it becomes popular, there will be a gatekeeper-cuirator sort out there
mircea_popescu: how'd it be set ?
smickles: sort've like the BBB in 'merica
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla did you say milk ? http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135325577648.jpg
smickles: a list of known vetted businesses
mircea_popescu: smickles look at what happens on the threads where scams are called out : a few shils yell loudly
mircea_popescu: "average people" aren't interested to participate.
mircea_popescu: as a result a fake sort of public agreement is created, for those foolish enough to credit it.
smickles: it may be possible for a trusted elite to form who judge these things
mircea_popescu: yeah, it may be possible.
kakobrekla: hehe
kakobrekla: bbl
smickles: well, kakobrekla just opted out of the club
smickles: ;)
mircea_popescu: he's not married. you have to be married to be in the trusted elite.
kakobrekla: again, that can be done instantly.
mircea_popescu: lmao
smickles: ah, syntax ambiguity
kakobrekla: well not what i had in mind but i guess it could work as well
mircea_popescu: make sure you film the baby coming out.
kakobrekla: ;>
kakobrekla: on that note, change bbl to brb.
kakobrekla: off i go.
EskimoBob: did namworld run BTC-BOND?
mircea_popescu: wasn't amazingrando doing btc-bond ?
JWU42: that was bit-bond
mircea_popescu: http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Raccoon-Playing-With-Water-Sprinkler.gif
mircea_popescu: o right you are
mircea_popescu: i think namworld ran kraken fund passthrough on glbse
mircea_popescu: DeathAndTaxes Posts: 8484
mircea_popescu: that dude wow. i want to hire him lol.
smickles: damn, i think that SudoGhost might have met his match
mircea_popescu: btw, reminding everyone : http://trilema.com/2012/voluntary-contracts-after-a-while/
mircea_popescu: there's a writing contest, 120 btc total prize fund
mircea_popescu: 4 to 6k word stories, three (four) sections.
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: more than one writer's career started that way
mircea_popescu: (they were less frank about it at the time however)
mircea_popescu: B0g4r7 how goes ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21722 @ 0.000501 = 10.8827 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16179 @ 0.00050102 = 8.106 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: mr. sickles
thestringpuller: errrr
thestringpuller: mr. smickles*
smickles: thestringpuller: yo?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7521 @ 0.00050102 = 3.7682 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14529 @ 0.00050103 = 7.2795 BTC [+]
lucidlepidoptera: New bitcoin service startup, please take a look! https://btcjam.com/listings/584
pigeons: yeah Ukto's weexchange.co has started testing btc options trading
Lyspooner: hello everyone. has the idea been floated that bitpay bought all those calls on mpex?
mircea_popescu: haven't heard it till now.
mircea_popescu: have they ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4450 @ 0.00050038 = 2.2267 BTC [-]
Lyspooner: not many people can buy that many calls
mircea_popescu: why bitpay tho ?
Lyspooner: because they knew they were about to release the wordpress news
mircea_popescu: o
mircea_popescu: hm
mircea_popescu: you think btc went up on wp news ?
Lyspooner: yes
mircea_popescu: went up on 16th tho.
smickles: mircea_popescu: so what are the stats on how many people regularly backup mpex?
mircea_popescu: smickles i'm not keeping that close a track.
mircea_popescu: why ?
mircea_popescu: Lyspooner o right you are, announcement on the 15th huh
Lyspooner: i think it is probably a coincidence
smickles: mircea_popescu: just curious
mircea_popescu: Lyspooner the trades are pretty old tho.
mircea_popescu: then again, i guess it's possible they knew on the 5th or w/e
Lyspooner: o when were they
Lyspooner: ok
Lyspooner: did your bot limit them to volume per strike?
mircea_popescu: Nov 05 12:18:09 <assbot> [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C060T] 1000 @ 0.55667391 = 556.6739 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: hey, right on. the 5th
Doffx: ;;ident doffx
gribble: Nick 'doffx', with hostmask 'Doffx!~doff@c-76-28-215-172.hsd1.wa.comcast.net', is not identified.
mircea_popescu: yes bot only sells 6k of any mpsic
Doffx: ;gpg doffx
Doffx: ;;gpg doffx
gribble: Error: The "GPG" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "doffx" in it. Try "list GPG" to see the commands in the "GPG" plugin.
Doffx: Oops I suck at this
mircea_popescu: what are you trying to do ?
Doffx: I just want my key info
mircea_popescu: ;;ident
gribble: You are not identified.
Doffx: Ahh I need to ident first it seems
mircea_popescu: well if not,
mircea_popescu: ;;rated doffx
gribble: You have not yet rated user doffx
mircea_popescu: bah
mircea_popescu: ;;getrating doffx
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User Doffx, rated since Sat Apr 21 13:07:28 2012. Cumulative rating 3, from 2 total ratings. Received ratings: 2 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 3 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=Doffx
Doffx: There is a way to see my key id ive seen smickles do it before
Doffx: I got it anyhow.
Doffx: Too lazy to verify even though it takes 5 secs
smickles: Doffx: key?
smickles: ;;gpg info smickles
gribble: User 'smickles', with keyid EA62D7CEB2450C3F, fingerprint 96ACCA7C3B09EC61B0A6D7F9EA62D7CEB2450C3F, and bitcoin address 12NjnZTVeTJ3g5C7BqfS2aQ2rLkmwiqVz6, registered on Mon Jun 20 12:24:35 2011. http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewgpg.php?nick=smickles . Currently authenticated from hostmask smickles!~smickles@mostofmany.com .
smickles: mircea_popescu: re: those calls, didn't we calc their profit at >13usd?
mircea_popescu: i think.
Doffx: Ahh I was missing the info part, see I was close
mircea_popescu: was an entire set.
thestringpuller: sir mircea_popescu
thestringpuller: teach me romanian for 100 btc
mircea_popescu: haha i only teach girls.
thestringpuller: teach me about girls for 100 btc
thestringpuller: lol
mircea_popescu: lol what do you want to know ?
thestringpuller: how do you approach them when you aren't a millionaire like yourself?
mircea_popescu: coolly.
smickles: by walking, usually
smickles: ;D
mircea_popescu: lol
kakobrekla: if its not on the net its worthless.
Doffx: You dont need a million dollars to get women
smickles: you only need 50
mircea_popescu: well given that a majority of people are born poor
mircea_popescu: it'd seem money don't enter into it.
mircea_popescu: but since we're talking, i just finished a new article! http://trilema.com/2012/this-marriage-thing/
Doffx: Arent there like a million dating sites now anyhow? Seems like that should make it easy to hook up these days.
Doffx: Ive been married 12 years so dont know what dating is anymore, but before the wife I had no trouble getting women without much money.
mircea_popescu: Doffx dating is this thing whereby women are desperate for male attention and will literally do anything whatsoever.
Doffx: The women I married made about 4 times what I did and still makes double now.
Doffx: That sound like what I remember as well mircea_popescu.
kakobrekla: hm
kakobrekla: Furthermore no man could buy more than one woman-cow. < poligamy?
Doffx: Hahaha
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla well not in europe at any rate.
kakobrekla: eh?
mircea_popescu: vilest of crimes i think
mircea_popescu: arguably, but way up there with paricide
kakobrekla: it happend in yurop as well afaik
kakobrekla: and its still happenin
kakobrekla: not on a large scale
kakobrekla: but you cant say it does not
mircea_popescu: well we're discussing culture and norms not what's happening
kakobrekla: so you are theoretical and not practical here
mircea_popescu: in that sense yea
pigeons: i always say, "Hey bahybehy, what high school do you go to?"
mircea_popescu: seeing how it's the context not the message, that may even work.
mircea_popescu: does it ?
pigeons: not every time
pigeons: mostly
mircea_popescu: good enough then
jurov: gay movement strived once to abolish marriage completely
jurov: then they decided rather to embrace, extend &extinguish
mircea_popescu: this is like let me find the gif again
mircea_popescu: http://i.imgur.com/ujQon.gif
mircea_popescu: the whale of marriage dies of old age
mircea_popescu: not cause some birdies flop around.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: do you have any kids?
mircea_popescu: nope
thestringpuller: you would use them as child slaves if you had any
thestringpuller: :)
mircea_popescu: i don't really intend to have any in a jurisdiction that has difficulty with the notion that they're mine to kill if it comes to it.
jurov: good luck to find such a jurisdiction
mircea_popescu: what do i care ?
mircea_popescu: it's the jurisdiction's job.
thestringpuller: you sound like a negro mother
jurov: i guess some people will be enlightened by your decision to not procreate (especially if pr girl has the same opinion)
thestringpuller: "I brought you into this world, I can take you out of it"
mircea_popescu: jurov most girls i know have the same opinion.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller you know, to this day the us won't declare that they won't use nuclear weapons. apparently it is necessary for security.
mircea_popescu: well.. fuck me if i see how you can educate children that know for a fact it can't come to their neck.
mircea_popescu: in other news, http://ist1-2.filesor.com/media/image/3/7/0/1/37010/3/f/c/8/ratingchart.jpg
thestringpuller: like we have any usuable nukes
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18421 @ 0.00050103 = 9.2295 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: nuclear weapons are lame
mircea_popescu: be that as it may, the principle stands.
thestringpuller: you ever play metal gear?
thestringpuller: that is my stance on the whole nuclear proliferation thing
jurov: how will one learn voluntary contract if one was educated with knife on their neck?
jurov: i see a bit of cognitive dissonance
mircea_popescu: why ?
mircea_popescu: supposed "adults" who grew up with no actual experience of their own death typically behave like overgrown children.
jurov: evidence?
thestringpuller: america
thestringpuller: i mean murica
mircea_popescu: ya, jurov baby this is like "please write a 500 word summary of the history of the world - use examples"
Diablo-D3: man
Diablo-D3: this is why I dont work on diablominer
Diablo-D3: I started doing a small fix
Diablo-D3: I ended up writing pretty much all of it
mircea_popescu: lol
Diablo-D3: mymindisfulloffuck.jpg
thestringpuller: 50/50 is like the best dramedy I've seen in a decade
jurov: whatever. my opinion people were always like overgrown children. but there were strong expectations from around society and one had to conform
jurov: now no one gives a fuck
kakobrekla: society = people
kakobrekla: people = wrong
mircea_popescu: jurov one still has to conform.
jurov: yes. just that the force is more subtle
mircea_popescu: right.
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1000 @ 0.77867002 = 778.67 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.88032553 = 880.3255 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P170T] 1000 @ 0.579474 = 579.474 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P180T] 1000 @ 0.67819874 = 678.1987 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 1000 @ 0.48333127 = 483.3313 BTC [-]
smickles: updated: http://blog.smickles.com/bitcoin/bitcoin-finance/a-good-month-for-s-dice-shareholders-in-the-making/
mircea_popescu: it lost moar ?
smickles: a little, someone was a bit lucky (and bragging about it)
smickles: someone selling puts
mircea_popescu: i'm having some mango icecream in their honor
kakobrekla: fuckin jewtube
kakobrekla: been searching for some vid for like half an hour
kakobrekla: i know its there.
mircea_popescu: video wants to be free
kakobrekla: ill give it another 7 minutes
smickles: well?
kakobrekla: maybe im onto something
kakobrekla: lol
kakobrekla: aha
kakobrekla: yay!
kakobrekla: its here
kakobrekla: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8qOlDSQ_1c&feature=youtu.be&t=3m6s
kakobrekla: i was looking for these 6 seconds.
kakobrekla: hum
kakobrekla: broken link
kakobrekla: hm works in chrome but not opera
kakobrekla: whatever.
smickles: diggity damn, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=113708.msg1343619#msg1343619
smickles: harsh shit for usagi trying to get back in the game
kakobrekla: i wasnt expecting him to get back under same handle
smickles: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/13eq5g/this_was_a_bit_unexpected_today_i_found_out_that/c73c32n
smickles: lol
mircea_popescu: <kakobrekla> i wasnt expecting him to get back under same handle++
mircea_popescu: in other news, http://www.livescience.com/22824-penis-head-fish-discovered.html
smickles: well, mircea_popescu i have about 1/10th of it written, so far, not much time devoted to the writing
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30900 @ 0.00050146 = 15.4951 BTC [+]
smickles: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=74216.msg1343759#msg1343759
smickles: s2cm news^