smickles: kakobrekla: well, once i consolidate them, you can see them all you want
 smickles: jezus mircea_popescu that link, it goes on forever
 smickles: under 400 in btc and about 300 worth of obligations to ss
 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40150 @ 0.00049704 = 19.9562 BTC [-]
 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1968 @ 0.00049729 = 0.9787 BTC [+]
 smickles: coding and waiting for a chain to sync
 gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 11.72288, Best ask: 11.72418, Bid-ask spread: 0.00130, Last trade: 11.72288, 24 hour volume: 19759.87479185, 24 hour low: 11.52000, 24 hour high: 11.80000, 24 hour vwap: 11.67289
 BTCHero: Daughter got ahold of the keyboard
 smickles: I was just asked if we have a claim process ready for if glbse never gives out info
 pigeons: in most cases i don't see how it could be done
 smickles: I said that if a good process becomes known, we'll use it
 mircea_popescu: everyone's asked this and nobody'll have a good answer.
 smickles: ;;calc 50*6*24*30*[ticker --last]
 assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 4 @ 0.10733077 = 0.4293 BTC [-]
 smickles: yeah, but it means that the miners ar prolly using or saving most of the generated btc recently
 smickles: 'cause if they were selling it, it'd tank the price
 mircea_popescu: alternatively, it means that mtgox's marketshare leaking has been going steady and possibly aggravating
 smickles: mtgox 30day volume is 10mil usd
 mircea_popescu: i fear they went from two thirds this spring to something like 40% today.
 smickles: well, i'll calc that # right now
 gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 11.79000, Best ask: 11.81000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02000, Last trade: 11.79000, 24 hour volume: 19628.77008381, 24 hour low: 11.52000, 24 hour high: 11.81000, 24 hour vwap: 11.67984
 smickles: 30 day volume of all bitcoincharts reporting exchanges (except gox)
 Bugpowder: gox deposits were totally fucked up from USA last month
 Bugpowder: I see I should have held onto my MPOE stock
 Bugpowder: could have made all the fucked up losses back
 smickles: mircea_popescu: yeah, we can't discount otc trading
 Bugpowder: Paid Content  This article is available for a fee.
 Bugpowder: GLBSE paid me my coins, but not my stock
 smickles: mircea_popescu is clearly making a living off of trilema credits
 smickles: ;;sell 900 "Trilema Credits" at .1 BTC
 smickles: may as well test the waters ;)
 gribble: Error: "bc" is not a valid command.
 Bugpowder: I wonder how much I could make off my blog with Adsense
 smickles: Bugpowder: i heard that the various btc ad networks pay better
 Bugpowder: I think the most profits would be direct negotiation with companies
 smickles: "The field of connectomics …." /me has some research to do now
 smickles: i must know what connectomics is in detail
 smickles: mircea_popescu: lol, i feel little now, my blog is all of two piddly unimportant links, this guy's blog is interesting science
 smickles: totally got to write about the 'merican transition to fair value accounting methods
 Bugpowder: but... if you fuck up, get a new one
 mircea_popescu: hahaha you ever watch seinfeld ? is this episode which includes the need for very small instruments
 Bugpowder: I am not familiar with that episode, they only play the same 10 episodes in syndication
 mircea_popescu: i have the whole collection, i musta seen each episode a dozen times
 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10032 @ 0.00049729 = 4.9888 BTC [+]
 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38100 @ 0.00049733 = 18.9483 BTC [+]
 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41347 @ 0.00049744 = 20.5677 BTC [+]
 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18500 @ 0.00049753 = 9.2043 BTC [+]
 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24700 @ 0.00049762 = 12.2912 BTC [+]
 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31102 @ 0.00050058 = 15.569 BTC [+]
 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12213 @ 0.00050064 = 6.1143 BTC [+]
 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55400 @ 0.00050068 = 27.7377 BTC [+]
 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27650 @ 0.00050073 = 13.8452 BTC [+]
 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38950 @ 0.00050081 = 19.5065 BTC [+]
 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26447 @ 0.00050082 = 13.2452 BTC [+]
 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9693 @ 0.00050087 = 4.8549 BTC [+]
 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34967 @ 0.00050092 = 17.5157 BTC [+]
 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47500 @ 0.00050376 = 23.9286 BTC [+]
 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31700 @ 0.00050381 = 15.9708 BTC [+]
 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28550 @ 0.00050382 = 14.3841 BTC [+]
 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19650 @ 0.00050383 = 9.9003 BTC [+]
 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36650 @ 0.00050388 = 18.4672 BTC [+]
 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19504 @ 0.00050392 = 9.8285 BTC [+]
 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48243 @ 0.00050394 = 24.3116 BTC [+]
 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41600 @ 0.00050395 = 20.9643 BTC [+]
 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51500 @ 0.00050395 = 25.9534 BTC [+]
 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4650 @ 0.00050395 = 2.3434 BTC [+]
 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51005 @ 0.000504 = 25.7065 BTC [+]
 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30605 @ 0.000504 = 15.4249 BTC [+]
 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29200 @ 0.00050401 = 14.7171 BTC [+]
 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45650 @ 0.00050402 = 23.0085 BTC [+]
 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31001 @ 0.00050403 = 15.6254 BTC [+]
 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31100 @ 0.00050404 = 15.6756 BTC [+]
 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00050412 = 3.4784 BTC [+]
 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33462 @ 0.00050412 = 16.8689 BTC [+]
 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37280 @ 0.00050413 = 18.794 BTC [+]
 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5149 @ 0.00050415 = 2.5959 BTC [+]
 pigeons: don't input those "random numbers" into gribble's calculator
 mircea_popescu: pigeons inaba was cute, seeing how he's a sort of bfl-pr
 pigeons: mircea_popescu thinks that inaba doesn't wear one
 pigeons: i didn't say he does. i just think you're being a little hasty saying he doesn't
 smickles: I was going to bid .0009 for some options,
 assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P110T] 4 @ 0.07 = 0.28 BTC [-]
 mircea_popescu: 110t, that has a good chance to expire worthless i guess
 mircea_popescu: pigeons but anyway, what's the latest word on bfl delivery ? december ? 
 pigeons: i haven't been following it either. one of the other compies (bASIC?) sent customers and email that their orders were "ready to ship" and they are the first asic miner company ready to ship (just as soon as they assemble and test them)
 mircea_popescu: only in bitcoinland untested and unassembled items are "ready to ship"
 smickles: lol, ready to ship, but we need to build them and see if they work firs
 mircea_popescu: it's like... see this pile of wood over here my good man smickles ? 
 pigeons: they printed the shipping invoices too, so they are ready
 pigeons: ah, it seems bfl componenets are "being loaded on a truck" for assembly when they arrive
 mircea_popescu: -I've got a pretty solid handle on number of units paid with BTC and completed Credit Cards.  However I have over 350 54G units for which the credit card payments need to be verified.  If every single one of those orders reconciles to a payment (doubtful), we'll be at around 800 of the 54G units paid for and in the ship-pile.
 pigeons: look at the price of that product
 pigeons: yeah i thought 1200 for the 54g
 pigeons: man i am the least informed on bitcoin asic miners anyway
 mircea_popescu: so these guys got 1mn in, bfl took something like 5-6 ?
 mircea_popescu: they're all fighting (with the current miners) for a 1,3 btc stake the next year.
 gribble: (title <url>) -- Returns the HTML <title>...</title> of a URL.
 gribble: Private school is child slavery!!!
 Bugpowder: mircea_popescu Mining is a loser game
 smickles: Bugpowder: not if the tax deduction is taken into account, and you planned to pay taxes in the first place
 mircea_popescu: smickles in an economy as shitty as this tax credits aren't worht the mention
 smickles: business can deduct expenses, like equipment purchases
 mircea_popescu: smickles i could probably bill an aditional 1-200k euros and not pay 100 euros more in tax atm for instance.
 Bugpowder: how many of these people are even sole proprietor?
 Bugpowder: 90% of the buyers don't have a 'business' officially set up
 smickles: mircea_popescu: yeah, i have too many deductions
 smickles: and because the 'merican tax system is fucked,
 smickles: not only did i not pay fed income tax,
 pigeons: oh mircea_popescu, i thought for curiouslty you might be interested in the new litecoin global TOS.
 mircea_popescu: "The Corporation has zero legal tender exposure in any jurisdiction."
 mircea_popescu: heh. i recall the day mpoe-pr turned the tide on the sec panic. i suppose i shall be the only one to recall this.
 mircea_popescu: anyway, someone spent a day dilligently hammering c/p'd bits together, i call this progress.
 smickles: lol, they have, in their tos, made the "it's not legal tender, so it's not illegal' argument?
 pigeons: they are now run by BTC-TRADING, INC and so they changed the TOS to what I linked
 smickles: lol, 53 lines into it "We urge you to carefully read the Terms and Conditions of this Agreement and all other policies and disclosure statements referenced here or elsewhere on the website. Such policies are incorporated into this Agreement by reference and collectively form part of this Agreement."
 smickles: they wait 53 lines to say that you should read it
 pigeons: your litecoins magically become "LITS" when you deposit them
 pigeons: in case you thought litecoins were legal tender somewhere
 pigeons: burnside is the guy's handle
 smickles: i wish gribble reported l3 trust to, labeling it something like 'Tanya down the street\'s rating'
 pigeons: anyway, the btc version is in testing,further along than asics
 Bugpowder: A lawyer friend was not impressed with the monopoly money SEC defense argument btw...
 smickles: do you think that the romanian regulators would see it the same way
 smickles: there has to be the law violated, not the precedent of other judgements iirc
 smickles: mircea_popescu: where does the file have to be located for your avatar grabber to grab it?
 smickles: and what is the code to do that?
 mircea_popescu: the page simply lists your avatar as <img src=your_url/avatar.png>
 smickles: based off of the website feild or the server of the email field?
 mircea_popescu: This is accomplished by selling a true .virtual. ownership interest in the company to investors.
 pigeons: does googlebot have to pay the credit fee
 smickles: it's worked for as long as I have tried to have it work
 pigeons: why does nobody hold title to any inputs?
 pigeons: i thought private key of the address was so
 smickles: pigeons: the btc was there already, no owner ... as i vaugely recall
 smickles: and you don't become the owner by having a priv key associated with a btc
 smickles: because you don't control the btc, it stays where it always was?
 mircea_popescu: you have the address so you have the control of the sum. that's posession.
 smickles: can you have title to something that the state doesn't give title for?
 mircea_popescu: do you mean to claim allodial title, as in, you were given it by god ?
 mircea_popescu: or else, is it fee simple ? is it from the monarch ? whence do you have it ?
 smickles: pigeons: i have title over this domain
 smickles: I should scrabble together something at least
 pigeons: there is work on using bitcoin as a title system to real word assets also
 pigeons: maybe namecoin is better for that casue you can also add values i dont know
 mircea_popescu: that the bitcoin protocol may well be used or useful as a record of title is not too relevant in a discussion of actual title to bitcoins
 pigeons: yes i see your point mircea_popescu
 smickles: Bugpowder: as a shareholder, thankyou
 pigeons: does last month's satoshi dice loss come out of any dividends this month?
 mircea_popescu: (f)Immediately upon publication of each Statement of Profit and Loss SatoshiDice will pay to shareholders as dividends a fraction of no less than 100% (one hundred percent) of the Net Profits, if any.
 pigeons: ok keep playing then a little more please Bugpowder
 mircea_popescu: (h)In case of a monthly loss (which will occur occasionally due to the nature of statistical variance of bets), the loss amount will be carried over to the next month’s profits when calculating Net Profits.
 smickles: pigeons: the dooglas chart shows that it's been overcome
 smickles: (even accounting for the bitcoin friday donation)
 mircea_popescu: smickles what's the numbers ? so i don't have to load the forum
 mircea_popescu: course... a coupla weeks to go, could do -5000 a day or w/e
 mircea_popescu: Upon such sale of stock, the owners, officers, and executives of the selling company obligate themselves with a fiduciary responsibility to the shareholders.
 mircea_popescu: jesus christ, people with a thesaurus should stop writing lawyeresque prose.
 mircea_popescu: betraying a complete lack of understanding of even the most basic notions.
 smickles: mircea_popescu: about 15000 - 8000 - 2000
 smickles: total profit nao, total profit at beginning of month, last months loss
 smickles: #'s just from eyeballing chart
 smickles: oh yeah, tack on a - 400 for the donation
 smickles: do you really need to imagine?
 smickles: voting power == short term gain is the ultimate goal
 smickles: day-over-day, month-over-month, year-over-year
 mircea_popescu: moreover, evoorhees would have ended up spending 4k bitcoins in handling the entire process.
 mircea_popescu: whoever the fuck thought btc shares should have voting power.
 gribble: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid (1 more message)
 assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00339944 / 0.00339944 / 0.00339944 (5000 shares, 17.00 BTC), 30day: 0.00180002 / 0.00332998 / 0.0034 (1005363 shares, 3,347.84 BTC)
 smickles: shit, thats' ... i was about to say
 smickles: looks like my accidentally buying 50 btc worth of shares will pay off
 pigeons: oh hey mircea_popescu i know you don't go to the playground anymore, but they mentioned just now in -otc that black lotus ddos mitigation is accepting btc, and forbes is starting to pump them for an ip
 pigeons: i want another ticker symbol on mpex, at least for when giga goes away
 mircea_popescu: (and yes i lolled at the time glbse was protected by cloudflare)
 mircea_popescu: well, but anyway, do they want to list on mpex or what ?
 pigeons: i'm just giving your pr chick a lead
 pigeons: i'm sure with her people skills they will sign right up :)
 mircea_popescu: in other news, israel sites suck worse than bitcoin sites.
 mircea_popescu: also, anonymous are fuckwits. defending palestine wtf.
 pigeons: oh BL are also using bitpay like wordpress. you need to list bitpay
 mircea_popescu: ya, but i think they're tempted to try listing for fiat.
 pigeons: well i know someone at bfl you can talk to...
 pigeons: ok enough, i'll be here all week
 pigeons: waiting for the S.DICE trades to come streaming in
 mircea_popescu: make your links active, tho, and use something like WP-Footnotes for footnotes
 smickles: pigeons: because I have a massive   readership
 pigeons: yes you should be careful not to manipulate the market with your clout
 mircea_popescu: "This post is a piece of sheer brilliance. A tour de force. Perfect clarity, insightful, no holds barred…priceless."
 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16878 @ 0.0005007 = 8.4508 BTC [-]
 assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.88287601 = 882.876 BTC [-]
 assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1000 @ 0.78123286 = 781.2329 BTC [-]
 assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P180T] 1000 @ 0.68079643 = 680.7964 BTC [-]
 assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 1000 @ 0.48605987 = 486.0599 BTC [-]
 assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P170T] 1000 @ 0.58212876 = 582.1288 BTC [-]
 assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P150T] 1000 @ 0.39378654 = 393.7865 BTC [-]
 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10072 @ 0.0005007 = 5.0431 BTC [-]
 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23988 @ 0.00050077 = 12.0125 BTC [+]
 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3890 @ 0.00050089 = 1.9485 BTC [+]
 kakobrekla: came back just now, made it a little shorter.
 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7860 @ 0.00050089 = 3.937 BTC [+]
 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20562 @ 0.00050094 = 10.3003 BTC [+]
 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21028 @ 0.000501 = 10.535 BTC [+]
 FabianB: mircea_popescu: which drama do you expect to put pressure on the price?
 mircea_popescu: like... if bfl accused some compertitor that it broke into their lab and stole their pringles
 FabianB: hehe, so why do you expect something like that now?
 FabianB: something like that happens all the time it seems, but hard to predict, just like price changes
 FabianB: thought you had some insider info ;)
 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13672 @ 0.000501 = 6.8497 BTC [+]
 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6928 @ 0.000501 = 3.4709 BTC [+]
 JWU42: I see usagi is back
 JWU42: or - has been I suppose
 JWU42: do't read forums or IRC much anymore
 kakobrekla: hi JWU42, welcome back from the dead :p
 JWU42: nice to be back - all well?
 JWU42: short of giving away far too mcuh BTC to shithead cammers like P and Nef
 JWU42: yeah - thankfully i did take those BTC from my P account
 JWU42: I am not worried about that frankly
 JWU42: but like the single - they said October it ended up being February
 JWU42: ASIC might be the same
 JWU42: I felt the odds of them hitting October were < 1%
 EskimoBob: damn, why isn't there a backup available from Securities forum before this usagi the ass-hat deleted all his posts.
 JWU42: Not sure what Josh said to MP - but he and MP are both strong personalities - not suprising they clash from time to time
 kakobrekla: build something like 4chan archive for bitcointalke EskimoBob :)
 temp_kluge: No guruvan today? Could someone tell him to unblock me on the forum when he comes around? ;)
 temp_kluge: Idunno. I just know I can't send him PMs and he did a BDK->BDK.BND exchange a while ago but hasn't filed a claim, yet.
 kakobrekla: erryone is fuckin milky shill puppet these days.
 EskimoBob: same fuck who uses //// or something like that as a username in btst channel?
 JWU42: I am well passed that now MP - but was not fun for a while
 JWU42: self induced though - so just disappointed in myself
 temp_kluge: (oh - then thanks /// - I did get what you sent on the 14th. Tried calling a week or two ago)
 mircea_popescu: most traders worth their salt in the city blew a LOT more than the dollar equiv of a few k btc.
 mircea_popescu: EskimoBob kakobrekla has a point. someoneshould archive btctalk
 temp_kluge: I pm'd. Not used to web client, but normal clients refuse to connect to Freenode anymore. Using mobile tether for Internet.
 temp_kluge: Someone come up with a Bitcoin-like decentralized solution for asset issuance/trading, yet?
 smickles: colored coins seem to be proof-of-worky
 smickles: and I think i recall one issure switching to them
 EskimoBob: btctalk archive is nice but lots of important stuff is missing by now.
 mircea_popescu: smickles the big problem, of course, being that with no gatekeepers it'll be glbse v2.0
 smickles: it has that risk and likelyhood, certainly
 smickles: hopefully there are some diamonds in the rough
 EskimoBob: if you have loads of hdd space and access to unlimited bandwidth, even wget  can build a archive of bitcointalk.
 smickles: hopefully, if it becomes popular, there will be a gatekeeper-cuirator sort out there
 smickles: sort've like the BBB in 'merica
 smickles: a list of known vetted businesses
 mircea_popescu: smickles look at what happens on the threads where scams are called out : a few shils yell loudly
 mircea_popescu: as a result a fake sort of public agreement is created, for those foolish enough to credit it.
 smickles: it may be possible for a trusted elite to form who judge these things
 smickles: well, kakobrekla just opted out of the club
 mircea_popescu: he's not married. you have to be married to be in the trusted elite.
 kakobrekla: well not what i had in mind but i guess it could work as well
 smickles: damn, i think that SudoGhost might have met his match
 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21722 @ 0.000501 = 10.8827 BTC [+]
 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16179 @ 0.00050102 = 8.106 BTC [+]
 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7521 @ 0.00050102 = 3.7682 BTC [+]
 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14529 @ 0.00050103 = 7.2795 BTC [+]
 pigeons: yeah Ukto's weexchange.co has started testing btc options trading
 Lyspooner: hello everyone.  has the idea been floated that bitpay bought all those calls on mpex?
 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4450 @ 0.00050038 = 2.2267 BTC [-]
 Lyspooner: not many people can buy that many calls
 Lyspooner: because they knew they were about to release the wordpress news
 smickles: mircea_popescu: so what are the stats on how many people regularly backup mpex?
 mircea_popescu: Lyspooner o right you are, announcement on the 15th huh
 Lyspooner: i think it is probably a coincidence
 mircea_popescu: then again, i guess it's possible they knew on the 5th or w/e
 Lyspooner: did your bot limit them to volume per strike?
 mircea_popescu: Nov 05 12:18:09 <assbot>	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C060T] 1000 @ 0.55667391 = 556.6739 BTC [-]
 gribble: Nick 'doffx', with hostmask 'Doffx!~doff@c-76-28-215-172.hsd1.wa.comcast.net', is not identified.
 gribble: Error: The "GPG" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "doffx" in it.  Try "list GPG" to see the commands in the "GPG" plugin.
 Doffx: Oops I suck at this
 Doffx: I just want my key info
 Doffx: Ahh I need to ident first it seems
 gribble: You have not yet rated user doffx
 Doffx: There is a way to see my key id ive seen smickles do it before
 Doffx: Too lazy to verify even though it takes 5 secs
 gribble: User 'smickles', with keyid EA62D7CEB2450C3F, fingerprint 96ACCA7C3B09EC61B0A6D7F9EA62D7CEB2450C3F, and bitcoin address 12NjnZTVeTJ3g5C7BqfS2aQ2rLkmwiqVz6, registered on Mon Jun 20 12:24:35 2011. 
http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewgpg.php?nick=smickles . Currently authenticated from hostmask smickles!~smickles@mostofmany.com .
  smickles: mircea_popescu: re: those calls, didn't we calc their profit at >13usd?
 Doffx: Ahh I was missing the info part, see I was close
 thestringpuller: how do you approach them when you aren't a millionaire like yourself?
 Doffx: You dont need a million dollars to get women
 Doffx: Arent there like a million dating sites now anyhow? Seems like that should make it easy to hook up these days.
 Doffx: Ive been married 12 years so dont know what dating is anymore, but before the wife I had no trouble getting women without much money.
 mircea_popescu: Doffx dating is this thing whereby women are desperate for male attention and will literally do anything whatsoever.
 Doffx: The women I married made about 4 times what I did and still makes double now.
 Doffx: That sound like what I remember as well mircea_popescu.
 kakobrekla: Furthermore no man could buy more than one woman-cow. < poligamy?
 mircea_popescu: well we're discussing culture and norms not what's happening
 kakobrekla: so you are theoretical and not practical here
 pigeons: i always say, "Hey bahybehy, what high school do you go to?"
 mircea_popescu: seeing how it's the context not the message, that may even work.
 jurov: gay movement strived once to abolish marriage completely
 jurov: then they decided rather to embrace, extend &extinguish
 mircea_popescu: i don't really intend to have any in a jurisdiction that has difficulty with the notion that they're mine to kill if it comes to it.
 jurov: good luck to find such a jurisdiction
 jurov: i guess some people will be enlightened by your decision to not procreate (especially if pr girl has the same opinion)
 mircea_popescu: thestringpuller you know, to this day the us won't declare that they won't use nuclear weapons. apparently it is necessary for security.
 mircea_popescu: well.. fuck me if i see how you can educate children that know for a fact it can't come to their neck.
 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18421 @ 0.00050103 = 9.2295 BTC [+]
 thestringpuller: that is my stance on the whole nuclear proliferation thing
 jurov: how will one learn voluntary contract if one was educated with knife on their neck?
 jurov: i see a bit of cognitive dissonance
 mircea_popescu: supposed "adults" who grew up with no actual experience of their own death typically behave like overgrown children.
 mircea_popescu: ya, jurov baby this is like "please write a 500 word summary of the history of the world - use examples"
 Diablo-D3: this is why I dont work on diablominer
 Diablo-D3: I ended up writing pretty much all of it
 jurov: whatever. my opinion people were always like overgrown children. but there were strong expectations from around society and one had to conform
 jurov: now no one gives a fuck
 jurov: yes. just that the force is more subtle
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 smickles: a little, someone was a bit lucky (and bragging about it)
 kakobrekla: been searching for some vid for like half an hour
 smickles: harsh shit for usagi trying to get back in the game
 kakobrekla: i wasnt expecting him to get back under same handle
 mircea_popescu: <kakobrekla> i wasnt expecting him to get back under same handle++
 smickles: well, mircea_popescu i have about 1/10th of it written, so far, not much time devoted to the writing
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