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a111: Logged on 2018-05-11 17:10 asciilifeform: ( i still have nfi, fwiw, who/where linked to it, to which heathens, possibly from mircea_popescu's logs later we will know some of it )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform re http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-11#1812408 the item the idle dorks "following" "open source" and "technology" "news" on "platforms" entirely miss is just how fucking inconsequential they are. not that this is some kind of surprise, lazy nonthinkers being bombarded with vacuous statements of their overpowering importance, so they end up believing the crap ; completely immune to the otherwise obvious and direct ☝︎
asciilifeform not expert in subj. but! will leave https://archive.li/8NEUh for the truly lulzcurious, describes lulincident during design , when pure gold (!) bolts were added, in nearly last minute, to homogenize density of the 'implosive' core
mircea_popescu: sure. but, were it that close, it would not have kept its fucking roof.
asciilifeform: ( why this is possible, i do not now remember, if anyone does -- plox to write in. )
asciilifeform: the backwards pressure is actually stronger, there, somehow, than the 1st wave outward.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it happens not in epicenter, but in outskirts of the blast circle
mircea_popescu: for the pattern there seen to exist, based on the tech of the time, it must be windblown, naught else.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, if it were that close the concrete wouldn't be standing at all, though.
asciilifeform: rather than the 1st pressure front
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is a classic luleffect, rubble ~always~ on wrong side within certain radius of epicenter ( i forget exactly what slice ) because it comes from ~vacuum~ suck
trinque: http://www.tsarbomba.org/images/tsar%20bom%20explosion.jpg << always thought this one was real pretty.
mircea_popescu: the rubble is on the wrong side for the implicit direction of the blast by what's left standing.
mircea_popescu: http://lemur59.ru/sites/default/files/images/%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B7%D1%80%D1%83%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F0003.JPG << also this is strictly incorrect.
asciilifeform: ( the orig pics are almost certainly in archive somewhere, and simply not printed )
asciilifeform: product of the seekrecy cult , which was every bit as bullheadedly idiotic as in usa
mircea_popescu: the drawings of overturned tanks are lulzy
asciilifeform: http://lemur59.ru/node/8786 << with pr0n, 'for the voracious'
mircea_popescu: hey, my recipe for apricot jam has half a dozen cracked seeds in there per jar.
asciilifeform: not a fan of almond cake, i take it...
asciilifeform: fuhrerprinzip works. is the only thing that works.
mircea_popescu: sure, but one would propose howsoever flavoured cyanide is nevertheless cyanide, and similarily penicillin, and etcetera. scarcely can see the point of even discussing the flavouring.
asciilifeform: he difference between the item that they claim they want and any other item labeled the way they want' in particular.
asciilifeform: '...Stupid people organize and through collective action arrive at "consensus", which is batshit nonsense filtered by idiots out of their own ass, entirely unrelated to any kind of reality. And then they attempt to force it upon the actual people... It's not annoying because it works, which of fucking course it doesn't, but because the only way to deal with them is to exploit the fact that they're so fucking stupid, they can't tell t
asciilifeform: the canonical mircea_popescu piece re subj of thread being imho http://trilema.com/2017/cemetery-junction/#selection-87.181-111.338
asciilifeform: kurchatov being a great demo case; he had the authority to behead. laboratory -- worked. ( and not merely via 'copy leaked design', the ~indigenous~ nuke was crafted in parallel with the copied 'rds-1' , and subsequently went to production ) ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-11 21:31 mircea_popescu: but this is a little like saying "kid pretending to be holding breath is lying". duh. how the fuck is socialism, or however you call the attempt to embody idiocy, supposed to survive in the strictly non-socialist reality ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-11#1812579 << it doesn't. however mythical beasts do not need to physiologically add up and live. on other hand, ~socialism-flavoured~ ( or with just about any other flavour, shinto-flavoured or confucius-flavored worx just as well.. ) fuhrerprinzip -- does work. ☝︎
asciilifeform: i bet d00d is pissed, too, phone rang and nao he has to crank out the fud, rather than his light daily routine of nsa.burning xen 'bugs'
asciilifeform: just when i was about to think 'where is boeck! has he died'
danielpbarron: more from hanno >> http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/qustP/?raw=true >> It seems there's a new "trilema factored some keys" story floating around. Take my advice: don't embarrass yourself by retweeting or spreading it, this guy has spread several bogus stories of that kind in the past.
asciilifeform: and besides, remember , it was Cosmic Rays and at the same time There Are No Broken Keys and incidentally cosmicrays and remember , craigwright is satoshi, and oh oh bigblocks.
asciilifeform: no good citizen would carry out a long division on a terrorist's instigation!1!!
asciilifeform: naaa trinque , seee, only Certified usg.adademitards may divide Authoritatively
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: seems like same muppet still assigned to the case.
asciilifeform: bahaha what took him whole day.
BingoBoingo: This hanno guy: "this guy has made similar claims in the past and they were always wrong. if you want my advice: don't trust this unless someone has independently checked it."
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I do remember that glorious rooftop surgery. With birds that could be heard by not seen
mircea_popescu: srsly, they only got one muppet ?
danielpbarron: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/YG6Y7/?raw=true << the tweet has grown, now featuring hanno
mircea_popescu: either it lies, or it dies. there's no third way.
mircea_popescu: but this is a little like saying "kid pretending to be holding breath is lying". duh. how the fuck is socialism, or however you call the attempt to embody idiocy, supposed to survive in the strictly non-socialist reality ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: the signs are everywhere, you go to colombia, look through the paperwork of the embassy, it strikes. it's quite universal.
mircea_popescu: this no-left-in-socialism point is particularly visible if you look at the case of the republica "socialista" romania. from the 60s onwards it was run VERY MUCH on capitalist basis, accumulating wealth, if undistributed, and ekeing itself a tiny colonial empire in the arab lands etc.
asciilifeform: such was the force of the throw...
asciilifeform: to apply mircea_popescu's classic 'thrown brick' model : stalin cleaned up the place, and threw the brick. which stayed , for a short while, in the air, in the form of 1950s-60s techno-extravaganza , rocketry, nukes, etc; then brick, engineless and wingless, on downward trajectory.
asciilifeform: ( took 3+ rounds of meat grinder, too )
a111: Logged on 2017-12-24 16:11 asciilifeform: kurchatov, supposedly, sat and thought, and few minutes later answered, 'perhaps from philosophical pov this'd be consistent. but then we will have to forget about obtaining the bomb.'
asciilifeform: by the time of the http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-24#1757902 incident, whole edifice was more or less thoroughly hollowed out and had approx as much genuine 'leftism' left inside, as the stuffed heads in a hunting lodge have meat ☝︎
asciilifeform: sorta why, imho, folx who lament 'and then cruel cynical grifter stalin took over' have it backwards.
asciilifeform: there ~are~ plenty of folx who walk, talk, even pretend to do work (in cafe, somewhere, or holding stop signs, or whichever) while earnestly believing in 'equalism', 'abolish ranks', etc. ~but~ these won't become even city dogcatcher, much less fuhrer, simply too much brain damage required, it gets in the way
asciilifeform: ( anybody recall the specific piece ? )
asciilifeform: iirc mircea_popescu had a spiffy article, re 'grifters', and where specifically 'lenin played the lure sucker for stalin's grift'
mircea_popescu: i guess. though i suspect it's a sad life to play the transvestite as only avenue to getting laid.
asciilifeform: dispensed because folx in the driver's seat are, as a rule , never so dumb as to actually drink the 'left' hokum. it is a lure.
mircea_popescu: they'd have stuck to it if it even vaguely promised to not entirely kill them. because, substantially, that's what the socialism was always about -- the pretense that the whore decides when and how the soldier fucks her.
mircea_popescu: this is entirely not different from both "i know obscenity when i see it" and "hi i named rajshit from injun and can moderate your tube sir!"
mircea_popescu: so the soldier's soviet will decide which way to charge this evening.
asciilifeform suspects that apparatchiks are ~same in ~all times/places
mircea_popescu: the fundamental pretense of the ~soviet~, in the original sense of the term, is that a group of imbeciles can nevertheless make decisions on the basis of their misapprehension of the environment.
mircea_popescu: and what was the whole "worker class" and aparatchick class but illiterates strutting ?
asciilifeform: in su -- not ( for the most part, managerial caste is separate convo ) not permitted.
asciilifeform: on top of this, there is the choice of whether to permit illiterates to strut about and pretend to civilization.
mircea_popescu: i am unpersuaded by this theory.
mircea_popescu: i don't think there was ever a system "dedicated to man" that managed to get man to think, though. man will not think, would rather take rape than math questions.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: largely replaced , on same trains, with pnoje-gazers in recent decade
ben_vulpes: kindle fulla fifty shades of the same smut
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, people read in united soviets also, you should see the trainfulls of people with crappy pulp in hand.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in late-gosplan days also had competition. ( life is a bit moar complicated than the cartoon su )
mircea_popescu: the most visible standardization (the hruscheba) is actually also the most defensible behaviour in economic terms (and not so different from us response to same problem). prefab was the way post ww2.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: people -- read. ( and to some extent even in modern ru, this survives, it is actually possible to stay afloat economically there as a non-crown-anointed - i.e. not-'bestsellerlist' writer, even today )
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, not really ; in the early gosplan days they even had competition, as alf aptly pointed out during some previous discussion.
ben_vulpes: designed by su department of designing The Right Car, i mean
mircea_popescu: the soviets of russia, much like the soviets of america, very insistently alfabetized the herd ; but lacked the electronic means to plug them in, all they had was electric. and as a result, "people's radio theatre"
ben_vulpes: perhaps i misconcieve of the industrial processes, and could benefit from experience, but i labor under the apprehension that there was "teh one su car, designed by su factory" whereas american product is "ten stanford cucks who think the exact same way writing the exact same banking app that chase will release as a feature in two years, written by their peers who took salaries instead of grahams
mircea_popescu: and couldn't read, count, etc. just, the mass of them wasn't anywhere any precious sankt petersburg windowsill flowers ever met.
asciilifeform: i dun think i ever met those
asciilifeform: the diff is that the us folx are bonsaikittens and, for the most part, actually believe in their bunkum. and can't read, write, count, feed selves without ~short~ (oh noez, 3km walk -- death!11) path to mcshittrough
mircea_popescu: $agent could answer yes/no whether $measure is leninist or bourgeois, appropriate or racisthateful, but only for the least interesting classes of $measures.
mircea_popescu: they seem indistinguishable to me, "marxism-leninism" or "awareness, eco-friendliness, blabla" serving as a specific sort of distance-only schelling points -- ie they only work at a distance.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: hard to tell, never got to experience su glory days
ben_vulpes: grand network of corporations and wall street will ensure that americans are "stepped down gently" a la the photosynthesis process, with maximum $anything extracted over the long term
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, what difference do you perceive then ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the last one in my list recently evaporated. but will file for future ref
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: different mechanism: here everyone "making apps", slicing open appendices are ~exactly the same in the head, so everything they produce converges to ~the same thing
asciilifeform: ^ these tend to keep 'banker's hours' tho, and the next time you come back, there's a carpet shop in there, because d00d finally died...
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, next this happens, invite them here lol.
asciilifeform: ( once in a veeeery long time, asciilifeform runs into some land-that-time-forgot where a greybeard owns the building and there are motherfucking blisterpacked z80's, 6502's, etc. hanging there, in dark yellowed plastic, since 1982... )
mircea_popescu: "engineered the total immersive soviet citizen experience"
a111: Logged on 2018-05-11 21:01 ben_vulpes: they get completely mass produced healthcare/parts/food/'mobile experiences' and fuck'em.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-11#1812515 << this is exactly how soviet economy died, too! ☝︎
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: astronomical rents, i suspect, also play a part. it is ~impossible to stay open if you stock anything that doesn't move continuously. specialist shops are the first to die. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-11#1812496 << hey, that'sd been the official republican worldview since 4evar. ☝︎
ben_vulpes: no money in selling parts/strange to the herd.
ben_vulpes: and unless you're an industrial large enough to warrant snapon deliveries weekly, you better be stocked preemptively.
ben_vulpes: "who would ever buy one of those without the power supply for the snowflake laptop?"
asciilifeform: what's moar standard than that
ben_vulpes: lobbes: especially the bigbox(tm) stores, they don't sell anything nonstandard.
ben_vulpes: last time i could be assured of walking out the door and getting a tool (not part!) that i needed was in nyc
lobbes: It took some explaining to Best Buy lady on the phone that I a) was not looking for laptop power cord and b) I didn't need the whole power supply, just the cord