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mircea_popescu: one doesn't have to be a highwayman anymore than anything else. what, you gotta be a highwayman now ?

asciilifeform: no? isn't it 'womanly cowardice', earning motherfucking bread, doing a job ?

mircea_popescu: there's nothing in there against being a peddler.

asciilifeform: what negotiating. father was a peddler, son - peddler.

mircea_popescu: mno, gotta be a man.

mircea_popescu: where do they find dudes to vouch for everything that ever crawls out from between a woman's legs is the mystery of all time.

mircea_popescu: well, as ritual. but as meaning, it's a sort of "men of community vouch for this young shit"

mircea_popescu: there's a very fucking good reason she changes her name and wears her hair as long as captor ordains. it's the fucking design, she gets captured and re-socialized in captor's castle.

mircea_popescu: why the fuck would a man chose to live as a woman over dying as a man.

asciilifeform: is there a 3rd jar i'm missing ?

asciilifeform: this is funny today, because there is no 'bright fyoootoor of communism' and it is obvious to a sea slug

mircea_popescu: "oh, i gotta take college debt on, i'm in a weak negotiating position. otherwise i don't get to my bright fucking future".

mircea_popescu: the irony of all time being that all these schmucks running around enacting this damsel in distress fantasy "oh noes i'm in a WEAK NEGOTIATING POSITION" are all working class stiffs with absolutely nothing to look for anyway, and that in the best case.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu was prolly thinking of a mosin.

mircea_popescu: can one even kill himself with a nagant ? ain't it too long ?

asciilifeform: once upon a time, mircea_popescu met a cabbie and gave him a broomstick. but original legend did not tell us that he also gave him a 1941 nagan, complete with 'tula' and red star, loaded with 1 round, and the learned man said to the cabbie, 'when you get bored of sitting on the broomstick, here - you can stop'

mircea_popescu: what you call "a weak negotiating position" i call being a woman. you're supposed to take it up the ass ; that's the design.

mircea_popescu: "everything i do is me being in a '''weak''' negotiating position. it's my sexual fantasy."

mircea_popescu: what ever happened to "you want it signed, 5bn goes there. else take a hike"

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu has NEVER been in a weak negotiating position in his whole life, has he.

asciilifeform: it's a bloody fiat co.

mircea_popescu: what are you, a 17yo ?

mircea_popescu: sounds like a stupid set-up.

asciilifeform: i have a box that gets 400+ pieces of shit every day.

asciilifeform: there was a time when derps and derpfarmers were not given net pipes.

asciilifeform: (was a thing.)

asciilifeform: it's a thing.

mircea_popescu: seems more a mark of poverty than anything really.

asciilifeform: i did, at various times, as a very heavy cost of this 'earning bread' thing.

mircea_popescu: a) i never participated in groups where open address was the norm and b) you'd have to go through filters to get to me.

mircea_popescu: i do not believe i ever found myself in this "email" situation. not ever. trilema comments have been a shocking exception, but otherwise

asciilifeform: whereas once there was such a thing as email.

asciilifeform: i'm with the latter. but also observed that 'resistance of the medium' is a thing, and that if cranking out crapolade costs 0, then the most prolix idiot is winner.

asciilifeform: hanno bock did his thing for the cost of a glass of schnapps or whatever. whereas in, say, 100 yrs ago, he and i would both have to pay for typesetting etc.

mircea_popescu: let's approach this from a different angle.

mircea_popescu: i see not the difference. before, you had to get permission from authority to publish ; then, you had to get enough money / promise of sales together ; finally, you had to have a "following".

asciilifeform: detail re books is that at one point there was a certain 'proof of work' implicit in getting the thing on the market.

mircea_popescu: it also killed it, but that's just a bad coincidence.

asciilifeform: 'in the great birdlessness, my arse is a nightingale' -- my grandfather

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this "nobody on the internet knows you're a dog" does not excuse any dogs.

mircea_popescu: there isn't a way inside here, is there ?

mircea_popescu: the fact remains that either you agree EVERYONE writing as many books as humanly possible is really a benefit for books, somehow (cuz you get access to supposedly valuable whatever the fuck you wouldn't have otherwise) ; or else you agree random internet dude picking up the web mantle and derping about how "the cathedral" sucks is really fucking up the work of the actual good men involved in tearing that shit down.

asciilifeform: i know nothing of spandrell's doom - perhaps he is raising his children in a madrassa, where they have perfect marks in shaheed belt preparation.

asciilifeform: is a TRANSLATOR

mircea_popescu: so you don't believe the situation where a man who is not in point of fact qualified to discuss these matters nevertheless discusses them actually "dillutes the internet".

asciilifeform: he excavated a great boatload of lulz re u.s. civil war and subsequent smoke, likewise.

mircea_popescu: makes a lot of sense.

mircea_popescu: so a sort of librarian for a special interest ?

asciilifeform: mr mold was a hilarious source of trivia re 100 yrs of usg rot. e.g., how kgb owned state dept., how prestige farming works in detail, etc. none of it original to him, he simply dug up the primary sources, best as he could. hence his nick.

mircea_popescu: you know even basic compiler puts a fucking ^ at the specific point where it lost it ? what am i going to do with "waitwut" ?

asciilifeform: i find it to be such a thing. e.g., spandrel from earlier thread, is quite readable.

mircea_popescu: have you noticed this, by the way ? apparently, that's a line ; and apparently it'll get filled ; apparently by substantially the same guy.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: only to the extent such a thing will ding the snr of those folk

mircea_popescu: would you say random wage slave with a kid in tow and a vague interest in maybe spending a week on "writing a book" is watering down "neoreaction" or whatever the fuck you'd call the line of "being an internet tough guy in the style of curtis yarvin" ?

asciilifeform: (gossipate - to dissipate via a gossip system - is now hereby a term.)

mod6: im saying, "what a pile of shit". burn it all.

asciilifeform: in case there are arithmetic-challenged folks reading, this is a 1 bit flip.

asciilifeform: a 0xb6 in the middle of the primary modulus became a 0xb4. no other changes.

a111: Logged on 2016-06-04 21:14 deedbot: [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 3971168913649098519 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'Craig A. West <west1@purdue.edu>; Craig A. West <cawest1221@gmail.com>; ' - http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/DF60B763FBE9B2830F5999D0549DB8803DCEEA6F6DCA7D0828EEEC9804B619AC

asciilifeform: red to be a conflict of interest with her official NSA duties.) The email, with the subject line, "Vanity Fair Article With Fugitive – May Cause Additional Work," said "the much anticipated Vanity Fair article with the fugitive is out.... Probably the most concerning issue in the article is the fugitives [sic] assertion that he raised complaints with NSA lawyers and oversight and compliance personnel."'

asciilifeform: 'On April 11, Vanity Fair released its story. That afternoon, Ledgett sent an email to Teresa Shea, the director of signals intelligence — or SIGINT, which is responsible for decoding electronic communications — and a number of officials whose names were redacted. (Later that year, Shea left the NSA after BuzzFeed reported that she and her husband ran a SIGINT "contracting and consulting" business out of their house in what appea

a111: Logged on 2016-06-04 18:44 asciilifeform: ;;later tell mod6 the openssl people hosed your stator script by moving their turdball without a redirect. can we plz stop linking to derps in trb autoloaders ?

BingoBoingo: Redditors make a serious career decision "Keep delivering pizzas or move over to Chinese food? (self.TalesFromThePizzaGuy)" https://archive.is/IXwLT

deedbot: [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 3971168913649098519 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'Craig A. West <west1@purdue.edu>; Craig A. West <cawest1221@gmail.com>; ' - http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/DF60B763FBE9B2830F5999D0549DB8803DCEEA6F6DCA7D0828EEEC9804B619AC ☟︎☟︎

gribble: Error: "tickr" is not a valid command.

asciilifeform: ;;later tell mod6 the openssl people hosed your stator script by moving their turdball without a redirect. can we plz stop linking to derps in trb autoloaders ? ☟︎☟︎

mircea_popescu: "you want to keep pretending X ? fine, this means you get to pay through the nose. so your pretense you're a world power costs what, 5 trn a year in subsidies to everyone that can bust your skull open ? fine. this is what, 1/1000 as important, that'd mean you owe me ~5bn to plead out and let you be. how much of that you got in cash ? and by cash we mean bitcoin, of course."

mircea_popescu: a right you are :p

mircea_popescu: (also not particularly useful in theory, but then again gpg is a pos.)

Framedragger: your phuctor uses a different hashing scheme. but i suppose wide deployment would be hard and also ultimately futile, given that i assume folks here haven't planned a bright future for gpg

Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-04#1476783 << don't forget that a "full" gpg fingerprint is a shitty 160 bit sha1sum, heh ☝︎

asciilifeform: sorta why i largely gave up on anglicizing ru fare. it ends up a hash, like that bugler thing

deedbot: http://www.academypublication.com/ojs/index.php/tpls/article/download/tpls0503581589/139 << Download this PDF file | http://ijbssnet.com/journals/Vol_4_No_13_October_2013/6.pdf << Cultural Factors in Literary Translation: Foreignization and ... | http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download;jsessionid=FC6BABFB01EB5E0597A4C56D130E70EF?doi=10.1.1.673.7336&rep=rep1&type=pdf << Download as a PDF

mircea_popescu: eating nagas... now that'd be a show.

mircea_popescu: that was such a lulzy battle too. what was it called ?

a111: Logged on 2016-06-03 23:43 mircea_popescu: ;;later tell spandrell amusingly, you fall in a very orwell-like vat (as per http://trilema.com/2015/in-which-orwell-avoids-what-he-does-not-wish-to-see/ ). really what you describe is the behaviour ~of idiots~ and them only. actual people do have ideology-activity connections going.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-03#1476751 << fella doesn't seem to presently ~have~, yet, an ideology, beyond a quite accurate picture of 'the west is phucked' ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-03#1476746 << i prolly oughta plant down a second, rubbish wordpress, for the rubbish. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2016-06-03 23:19 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-03#1476590 << consider another point here. on the basis of v neuman's quote with the state of sin, what can be said of a purported "cryptography mechanism" which can be stored as a 32 byte value ?

asciilifeform at one point was pathologically well informed on jp secondhand, but is emphatically NOT a veteran thereof nor set foot there, and will not comment further

mircea_popescu: a land of which no culture could ever come. much like a planet too small to retain gases.

mircea_popescu: used to be a time when opposite held true. that time was... what, coupla generations ago ?

mircea_popescu: nor can this ever be "forgotten", it's a thing in itself not a thing by convention.

mircea_popescu: that's actually how you distinguish actual people from the plain cuntspawn. and that's why attempted reductionisms a la "bros" don't actually work.

mircea_popescu: ;;later tell spandrell amusingly, you fall in a very orwell-like vat (as per http://trilema.com/2015/in-which-orwell-avoids-what-he-does-not-wish-to-see/ ). really what you describe is the behaviour ~of idiots~ and them only. actual people do have ideology-activity connections going. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: tis a thing.

a111: Logged on 2016-06-03 22:07 pete_dushenski: Now it’s China’s turn to attempt to prove that their centrally-managed currency can do it. They’re going to fail because nobody trusts China and nobody ever will. The business community knows that the Wall Street game is rigged but it’s rigged in a way that they trust. Nor will Bitcoin ever be more than a plaything for people on the fringes of the financial world. Pete’s very knowledgeable about

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-03#1476590 << consider another point here. on the basis of v neuman's quote with the state of sin, what can be said of a purported "cryptography mechanism" which can be stored as a 32 byte value ? ☝︎☟︎

a111: Logged on 2016-06-03 23:06 mircea_popescu: you could be on a fucking rap album. wu tang ain't got nothin' to touch this.

a111: Logged on 2016-06-03 20:13 asciilifeform: 400k buys you a flat in moscow.

mircea_popescu: you could be on a fucking rap album. wu tang ain't got nothin' to touch this. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: you know looking at this trilema article, it's a pretty epic shot of you asciilifeform ? i hope you use it for cvs.

asciilifeform: (i was a cruel shock when i learned that it LIED and DID NOT set clock to 10Mhz like promised on the lights!111111)

a111: Logged on 2016-06-03 22:07 pete_dushenski: Bitcoin but just like the goldbugs and the silver hoarders he rarely looks very hard at the way that real people use money in the real world. The average sub-130 IQ person looks at Bitcoin as a technology indistinguishable from magic, assuming that it’s that kind of magic where people periodically compromise the blockchain and steal money. Believe me when I tell you that we will all go back to biting c

asciilifeform: with ~usable params (could, theoretically, simulate a bot of his, see what it gets asked to do.)

pete_dushenski: http://blogs.harvard.edu/philg/2016/06/03/good-15-inch-laptop-with-a-great-keyboard/ << good ol' philg asking readership for hardware recommendations. only caveat : MUST RUN WINDOWS 10

pete_dushenski: anyways, i think i have enough monitors for the time being. unlike cars, you can't just park 'em all and grab the keys to the one you're in the mood for that day. a workstation isn't a commute or an errand run

asciilifeform: anyway i stack 16:9's on their side to get giant 4:3. but it's a pain.

pete_dushenski: speaking of spandrel (but not spandrell), i was just reading about the different types of spandrel glass. turns out there are more than a few ways to hide the slab end, mechanical, and electrical systems using an opaque curtain wall insert. the glass on these opaque sections is usually tempered because they get so hot with waste heat and greenhouse effect that they could crack from thermal shock. also, vo