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asciilifeform: i have nfi. possibly 'protocols of zion' aha.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i'm sorry, i can't go through the introduction
mircea_popescu: in other news i see phuctor numbers marching steadily up, 440/562 by now ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i'm guessing users can't just re-enter their orders or something ? anyways.
phf: oh i should add date ranges to search..
asciilifeform: iirc mircea_popescu explained this some time in 2013 but i haven't the link here.
asciilifeform: 'Based on the information I have available to me, it appears that the MIT ChainAnchor Project is in part an attempt to get Bitcoin users to register their real world identities and associate their transactions with those identities. Initially this would be on an opt-in basis, however it appears that ChainAnchor has a longer-term plan to bribe and coerce miners into only mining transactions from registered users, eventually prohibitin ☟︎
BingoBoingo: A typical reddit user history https://i.sli.mg/IDaC8q.png
midnightmagic: I'm going to go murder some videogame people and make some geeks scream futilely at their TVs now; I mention this mostly to excuse myself from present conversation and so as not to exit said chat more rudely than I must. As always, nice to be able to use words bigger than two syllables, dude. \o
midnightmagic: No, it's not, but I mention it as an example of why the notion itself is problematic that infants should die in order that the remainder be presumed strong.
mircea_popescu: (i've had the pleasure to do exactly that - by the way, stuck in cab with old driver on avenida corrientes - which has been here since the ancient days before planes were a thing - and reminescing how this road was fine back when 20 men could ride abreast - but not so far today when 3 cars and a bus can)
midnightmagic: I'm not going to be defending millenials, by the way. Their particular deficiencies appear to be maladaptive.
midnightmagic: I know of nobody who was happy he was there except Soapy Smith and his gang themselves.
midnightmagic: That is true. Can the poison be separated from the person now? Is it possible to live a pure life in that sense? I know some who do. Like right now. Friends. And while integration with our life is impossible by now, they are wistful.
midnightmagic: e a kind of fiefdom in such a past I think might wish to make the journey to begin with, but exposure to violence of the sort Soapy Smith meted out is, I think, something no one given the choice with eyes open could make, constitution notwithstanding.
midnightmagic: Of course were I pure hypothetical pure soul standing in front of many bags, into each one I could leap and choose what time I arrived, absent any cultural baggage and in any event viscera at all, perhaps I would think differently. As I am now? Disease, sanitation, violence, injustice, cruelty, exposure, starvation.. these are alien pressures to any of us. A rare, rare few thinking they could achiev
a111: Logged on 2015-05-15 06:31 cazalla: ben_vulpes, comparable homes in my area are going for 600k, supposedly worth so much more than what my grand parents paid for their massive acre blocks back in the day where they were able to raise lots of kids on one wage yet i'm supposed to believe you're average australian couple who both work and pay for someone else to raise the 1 kid have it better because the total lack of land and bricks is worth $$$
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic as far as the "100 years" thing, i'll retreat behind cazalla's words : http://btcbase.org/log/2015-05-15#1132928 ☝︎
midnightmagic: I merely intended to convey the hypothetical notion of an actual life as experienced first-hand. Even 100 years ago frontiersmen arriving to the Klondike, as a more accessible example, lived a life so perilous and filled with hardship I doubt nearly anyone alive would choose to return to it.
midnightmagic: Such a thing did I not say; but rather to assert both that a 12-day repeating cycle would be a sad life, and that ancient humans lived a sad and brutish life to which few, if any, modern humans would realistically adhere should they find themselves the unwitting beneficiary of what heretofore might be considered the romantic notion of historical displacement!
midnightmagic: Historically humans have been a fairly sad lot by the reckoning of reasonably educated developed-nation citizens. But no, it just seems that while I look away things happen that I find interesting with frequent regularity.
midnightmagic: I am 12 days out of date re: MPEX sale.
midnightmagic: dangit. everybody seems to do things the exact times I'm not actively observing..
midnightmagic: but i'm rated by you :)
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic> oh. I thought anyone who could +v themselves could $up? << i'm not entirely sure how this even works by now. possibly only l1 ?
midnightmagic: i may have missed him, but anyway he asked me for +v
midnightmagic: oh. I thought anyone who could +v themselves could $up?
BingoBoingo: to be fair I'm running roughly 10 years behind on everything that matters myself
BingoBoingo: Oh, I was thinking more cosmological phenomena or natural process than machine
copumpkin: I think it dislikes me
copumpkin: I'm pretty evil
mircea_popescu: oh, tyou're prolly already regiustered i expect
copumpkin: I just typed $register copumpkin <fingerprint>
copumpkin: yeah, I tried that before, but it refused to register me
copumpkin: pretty good. You? I hear you had a falling out with -assets
copumpkin: man, I feel stupid now :)
mircea_popescu: oddly enough i don't even recognize my key in short form o.O
copumpkin: whoops, I pasted the wrong thing
copumpkin: I did have to give you my key again a couple of years ago
copumpkin: I've been trying echo "STAT" | gpg -u <my key id> --clearsign | gpg --encrypt --armor -r 2FB7B452
mod6: So I dunno when I said I was going to check in on the list of things to do, if that was today or friday or whatever. But I'm just getting started now. Been too damn beat down since Friday to even do anything.
mircea_popescu: mod6> I'll have to discuss with ben on the IRC section, do we even allow people to use the webclient to connect here? <<< i thought so, no ?
trinque: ah I remember you talking about that
ben_vulpes: abortive tmsr~ ad network i build once upon a time
trinque: I just dumped cliki2 on there; needs a better stylesheet
trinque: mod6 │ i think we're gonna need our own wiki now << http://wiki.deedbot.org/ I got you
shinohai: If true, perhaps best hambeast story I have ever read.
shinohai: thx mod6 I just happened to notice it earlier.
mod6: i think we're gonna need our own wiki now too, which is fine i guess.
mod6: heheh. i updated that to #trilema
mod6: I'll have to discuss with ben on the IRC section, do we even allow people to use the webclient to connect here?
shinohai: I'll set up a gofundme for research. If the cryptoid horseshit can get funds so can I.
mod6: <+shinohai> mod6 they sell "crumbs" too so I wonder if a trail of those leads bimbos to your door? << inquiring minds want to know!
wywialm: i was only presenting an offer for you to consider or discard, according to your judgement
wywialm: mircea_popescu, i certainly aim to create an options market similarly to what you did, but i'm not you.
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-20#1454110 << but "divesting" came before "anybody had voiced any kind of objections to anything", which is what i said ☝︎
mircea_popescu: honestly this just reduced in my head to basically "hey, i want to be mp, and for the year to be 2012". so i guess... good luck with it ?
wywialm: the market making project is separate from the exchange. i designed both, but they are independent from one another
wywialm: no, as i said before, i already have the automated market making algorithms, i look for expanding its funding
wywialm: i could offer my candidature, but of course this may be unsuitable for you. in that case, i could present the details to a person of your choice
wywialm: the exchange has not yet launched and CDS mentioned above are to be implemented yet, but i asked about f.mpif knowing that in case of your slightest interest, any preparations will take a lot of time.
shinohai: I guess he was using his medical license to sell Xanax
mircea_popescu: shinohai i don't get it, what the fuck difference does it make that guy's dad used to be a chiropractor ?!
wywialm: at present stage, the mechanisms i tried to describe are only capable of making the "short hairy jewish girl" scenario as unlikely as possible. what could make it really impossible, is to issue a CDS on the general liabilities of the exchange. The proceedings from the sale would increase the insurance fund in return for a compensation. If total amount of insurance fund and CDS issued is greater than potential losses, no haircut on profits would
mircea_popescu: i am not open to receiving a short hairy jewish girl for my money, even if oksluts.com imagines "it was just an intermediary between parties"
mircea_popescu: wywialm the fundamental problem with this view is that i do not wish to engage in a financial relationship with deadbeat B, where "your site was only an intermediary". i wish to engage in specified, modellable deals.
wywialm: i didn't certainly revolutionize the electronic derivatives trading industry (nor claimed to), just trying to make a robust bitcoin-based market
mircea_popescu: so far, i'm not as much as able to distinguish this from "here's my facebook clone", honestly.
wywialm: but i proceed to explain
mircea_popescu: and the "how i picked 10%" is a testament to the whole "copying big boys" thing. there's a reason they use the magic numbers they do.
mircea_popescu: essentially, you see what the big boys are doing, and figure you'll just do it yourself. except - the big boys can do things BECAUSE they are the big boys, ie, there's bernanke there to "save the economy". you aren't, and i can lean on you. moreover, the big boys don't ever do this 2:1 thing. they do a little margin, and as private financing, which is exactly how you should be doing it also.
mircea_popescu: this is the first time i hear of such.
wywialm: a) i'll try to proceed to explain everything i know about; b) if that's the case, then indeed i'll try to speak more clearly
wywialm: beggining from the last, c-1) yes, and as far as i remember, you removed a 'scam' warning from them
shinohai: mod6 they sell "crumbs" too so I wonder if a trail of those leads bimbos to your door?
wywialm: i'm not sure that i understand what you mean. i offer margin as i believe that the liquidation mechanism (including auction) will make sure that the losses do not exceed the deposits
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> shinohai you ever had bimbo bread ? << first time I saw this in a supermarcado i was like "ha! they don't even know..."
wywialm: i.e. each contract corresponds to $100
mircea_popescu: wywialm nice, but this isn't what i have in mind when i hear "economic design".
shinohai: I have a loaf in my fridge lol
mircea_popescu: i dunno why this never came through.
wywialm: i designed the exchange, yes - as i said then, all the economic and transactional aspects are designed by me.
wywialm: for all practical purposes, i represent both the exchange and the market making, and it's more than a half year since my announcement. none of this, of course, is meant to imply that you should support anything i have to offer, i just try to clarify
mircea_popescu: the notion that i'd support such a thing is plainly outrageous.
wywialm: i did not say that i need this money. also, it is not an offer for investing right now, just a check whether you will find anything interesting in it for you. if yes, i could go into greater detail how this is tested, how is going to be tested, etc.
mircea_popescu: so basically "i have this untested thing we baked together with some greenhorns that aren't in the wot but wouldn't mind using me - wouldn't you like to give us money ?"
wywialm: :) i could invite F.MPIF to join the market making operations
a111: Logged on 2016-04-20 16:27 solrodar: but when I first came across it a year or so ago, I got the impression that 2012 was the what bliss in that dawn to be alive
wywialm: the work approaches completion, and in parallel i cooperated with developing market making algorithms on both futures and options
wywialm: if you perhaps remember, i once announced work on a derivatives exchange
mircea_popescu: wywialm well it's a sad time for f.mpif, what with bitbet going. but i guess maybe ? what've you got ?
wywialm: i wonder if F.MPIF is open for new profit centers
a111: Logged on 2016-04-20 15:45 solrodar: yeah, so I'm not saying it was a ponzi, or any other kind of scam, just that he wasn't being entirely up-front about what was going on
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-20#1454029 <<< i'm sorry, you want free access to IP, go ask apple. and for that matter intel. ☝︎
PeterL: I suppose a ponzi could be closed cleanly if done while it is still very small? If the operator kiscks in enough money to close it before it grows bigger than his pockets?
mircea_popescu: it doesn't attach to me, or to mpex. i'm doing things. it attaches to you, personally : you're not good enough. and you sure as hell fore that reason do not belong opining in here. go learn how to do things that mpex may consider listing.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-20#1454008 << look, i understand this "teach plox throw the curve" talk has served you well through life. neveretheless, the fact that you don't see more things, and things made by orther people on mpex is that you personally suck. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-04-20 14:56 mats: solrodar: 'i don't understand this financial instrument so the operator must be laundering money'
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-20#1453984 << new version of "i don't understand how money works so jews must have pact with devil". which is WHAT is the problem with the sort of lowest-possible-effort, deliberately ignorant effort, PeterL ☝︎
mircea_popescu: PeterL i dun know that the "selection of assets" was ever the criteria.