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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: rrright, but let's award the medals ~after~ problem is Trooly Solved ; otherwise we risk to run out of medals prematurely
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, i certainly am contemplating same for s.mg. after all, if one's not gonna tie himself to the smart ones, who will he tie himself to.
diana_coman: and fwiw I tried running from there also ./aarch64-musl-linux-cpp -> same result ☟︎
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, this should be the arm thing; hence the above confirmation with asciilifeform that I took the correct thing
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, it builds an arm AND a x86 item. using the right one ?
diana_coman: this on the rockchip, obv
asciilifeform has no objection , if the rest of the board does not, to awarding fella a modest prize , if this in fact worxxx
diana_coman: well, I took it, checked it and it was ok, unpacked it and then went to its bin and tried to run gprbuild for instance and it died with exec format error...
asciilifeform: 1 step at a time..
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, might be an idea to put the fellow on the pizarro warrants list, considering impact.
asciilifeform: the one i tested earlier, on pc, was muslaarch64-linux-muslada.tar.gz .
diana_coman: asciilifeform, nosuchlabs.com/pub/ada/ave1/muslaarch64-linux-muslada.tar.gz should be for the rockchip, correct?
asciilifeform: ( if it works for building anything, should just the same build itself )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: 1 suggested test, will be to build the thing on itself , on arm
asciilifeform: ( we will find and kill wherever it is gcc's back-end pisses time/date/whatever-unique turds into the output elf ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: and after this, will become possible to talk about bitwise-repeatable builds of things.
asciilifeform: if diana_coman 's arm64 test pans out, this item will be included in the standard rockchip kit from that point on.
mircea_popescu: !!rate ave1 2 produced the holy grail : http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-15#1813760 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: !!rated ave1 2 produced the holy grail : http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-15#1813760 ☝︎
diana_coman: thank you, I'll try it out
asciilifeform: i.e. the musltronic gnat itself, is a properly static, musltronic elf.
asciilifeform: the 'native' ones, iirc, expect an existing musl linux; i tested the x86-64 'muslada'
asciilifeform: diana_coman: want the tarball ? ( i have not tested it )
asciilifeform: in principle , the thing will run on any box with an already working gnat.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, whole thing is bootstrapping gnatbox.
diana_coman: so hm, put it somewhere so I get it to my rockchip and test it in one blow?
asciilifeform: ( i have not tested yet )
asciilifeform: however ave1's script appears to build one.
asciilifeform: sorta how we began this thread !
diana_coman: I thought adacore had a gnat for arm too?
diana_coman: hm, come to think of it I could try it on my rockchip I suppose
asciilifeform: aanyway lessee if this builds for folx who aren't ave1 & asciilifeform
diana_coman: apparently my local-gentoo-for-testing is still borked somewhere in some gcc version as it turns out it had died with ..cannot create executables (although gcc is set to 4.9 etc but this is an experimental box so I'll have to sort it out)
asciilifeform: but this is sorta obvious
asciilifeform: i omitted a step 5 ) put in ~/.bash_profile , the path, e.g. PATH="/home/foo/temp/ada/ada-musl-cross-2018-05-15/bin/x86_64-linux-musl/bin/:$PATH"; export PATH
asciilifeform: i built a ch10 ffa with it, and the result runs.
asciilifeform: even conveniently tars them up for transport to other boxen.
asciilifeform: 5-6 hours later ( the parallelization thing dun seem to work, and good chunk of time is spent in autoconf, which never parallelizes ) you get x86-64 and arm64 gnats
asciilifeform: in (4) naturally you put the path of your 'bin' that you made in (3)
asciilifeform: diana_coman: steps to replicate: 0) on a machine WITH A WORKING GNAT (e.g. adacore's , and it must be in your path already ) 1 ) download the tarball from http://ave1.org/2018/building-gnat-on-musl-now-with-partial-and-parallel-build-support 2) unpack tarball ada-musl-cross-2018-05-15.tgz , go to the dir 3) mkdir bin << this is where the built binariola will live 4) ./build-ada.sh /home/foo/temp/ada/ada-musl-cross-2018-05-15/bin ☟︎
asciilifeform: for x86-64 ( arm not yet tested )
mircea_popescu: 27`001`189 bytes of THREATS of content. no content.
mircea_popescu: a WHOLE RESTAURANT worth of dudes insufficient to produce ~one fucking punch~.
mircea_popescu: bwahaha. by now the factor of punches to "threats" approaches the facebook.content to facebook.mark-up proportion.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, mind writing it down somewhere head-tail: did this on that and result is this?
asciilifeform: anyway seems (preliminarily) to work.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: working through the conveyor...
mircea_popescu: lmao you got add over there or what!
asciilifeform: apparently his thing builds arm in parallel with x8664
asciilifeform: however : i get 'exec format error' when trying to run any of the bins!!!
mircea_popescu: o right, right. tradehill.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-15 21:11 mircea_popescu: ancient lulz. basically the 2nd largest exchange (tree something) ran off with the funds, the people involved re-emerged doing all sorts of real estate and "trading" scams.
hanbot: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-15#1813690 << tradehill, actually. http://trilema.com/2013/mpoe-pr-almost-two-years-in-the-swamp-an-anthology/#selection-1753.0-1757.232 ☝︎
mircea_popescu shrugs. "just a matter of perspective", right ? and then the proof and the blabla.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: apparently not ~completely~ gone away: https://archive.li/Byweq << in the 'stipendi peccatus mors est' files
mircea_popescu: ancient lulz. basically the 2nd largest exchange (tree something) ran off with the funds, the people involved re-emerged doing all sorts of real estate and "trading" scams. ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i think rosenfeld was before my time. tho he came up recently, iirc during adlai's expulsion ( he tried to defend , iirc )
asciilifeform: seems to be a long-lived chumpatron, like ethertardium
mircea_popescu: talking of tor feels a little like talking of meni rosenfeld's bitcoin scam. anyone recall that "o ya, bcrypt, best tool on the market" lulzfest ?
asciilifeform: ( per the letter of the law, iirc they're all 100% guilty , there is not an official 'common carrier' exemption for'em or anyone without Note From Hitler )
asciilifeform: looks like they're bringing'em against otherwise-marked-for-discard tor/proxy/etc operators nao
mircea_popescu: anyway, re other lulz, i can't imagine anyone can possibly regard "child pornography charges" / "sexual assault charges" etc brought by the criminal org as anything than shameful fabrications.
asciilifeform: and , gold, '...claims that he initially provided assistance to the FBI’s investigation. Following the search of his apartment in March 2017, prosecutors waited six months to bring the child pornography charges'
asciilifeform: '...when he left the CIA in 2016, suspicion fell upon him as “the only one to have recently departed [the CIA engineering group] on poor terms' << lol!!
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/05/us-alleges-some-guy-leaked-cia-tools-but-doesnt-allege-strong-enough-to-bring-charges/ << Qntra - US Alleges Some Guy Leaked CIA Tools But Doesn't Allege Strong Enough To Bring Charges
a111: Logged on 2018-05-06 16:43 asciilifeform: ^ d00d with large collection of debian-style 'famous p's and q's', even once showed up here and asked to get phuctor's, and he did, but somehow his collection includes ~whole keys~ rather than factors. soon i'ma feed in ~his~ collection.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-06 15:57 asciilifeform: it is in the conveyor, along with 'where from?' stat in 'factor/123' page (e.g. 'debian collection', 'cisco', etc)
asciilifeform: in unrelated noose, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-06#1810457 is rolled out to production. see stats pg and e.g. http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/factor/6447 ( currently there is only 1 'special collection' of factors -- debian victims; but soon will have many more, from e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-06#1810470 ) ☝︎☝︎
mod6: Your thing has meaninful content.
mod6: yeah. 99% crap. at least trilema, when I get 27mb, i get 99% stuff I actually want to read/view.
mircea_popescu: mod6, i don't even have a problem with the mb, per se, i mean holy hell there's trilema pages consisting of tables or novels or w/e the fuck. but that mb is <1% markup for the love of christ, not 99%.
mircea_popescu: the externalized costs, you know ? suddenly puts into a whole new perspective the "net neutrality" thing. srsly, i must buy more switches cuz your "pages" are larger than my porn collection ?!
mircea_popescu: i shit you not. here's the page : https://archive.is/OJrrE ; here's the story : http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/uGngm/?raw=true
mircea_popescu: in utterly other lulz, i just archived a facebook page. anyone care to guess the aggregate byte size ?
mod6: Yah, and possibly fg. I know there is a sentiment that orcs are not interested in fg -- however, there are people I've talked to who are pretty interested in that. Don't have coins to buy one, however, still, interest is there.
mircea_popescu: suppose there's a facebook group. suppose whatever the fuck, i dunno, i do other things.
mod6: 'tis a nice touch, mircea_popescu
mod6: If we can get a landing page up -- then ya, can do some advertising.
mod6: Well, not a kid, but young guy. So who knows, maybe we'll make him a customer on the shared-environment.
mod6: Well, I did talk to a kid at lunch - told him we got cheap hosting.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, well, I started it too and I'll leave it on, will see tomorrow morning I guess
diana_coman: ave1, if I want to test your gnat-building script what steps should I follow so that I have at the end of it maximum info re what works/doesn't and in what context exactly? ☟︎
spyked: jurov, do you by any chance remember how long it took for you to extract all the keys?
spyked can confirm that the ^ method worx.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-10 14:39 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-10#1811871 << how didja enumerate the users ?
BingoBoingo: After substantially more waiting in line, the cedula is in hand
asciilifeform: i'ma try it again, looks like OBJECTS was still set somehow
ave1: should not be needed, the makefiles request the variables, not configure
asciilifeform: ave1: but i did remember it after 1 failed run. possibly gotta zap the existing build ?
mod6: ah, thanks SIr.
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-05-15 15:37 mod6: ah, maybe that as for 96. anyway, will wait for ben_vulpes
ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-5-15#356051 << ~2.75 BTC at ~current rates gets 4 chassis with 96 total rockchippen, includes 1 delivery run per chassis.
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-05-15 13:58 mircea_popescu: well, why not kick him while he's down. so, ben_vulpes , do you understand the meaning of "They know how to work those" in http://trilema.com/2013/attention-cunt/#selection-37.37-37.64 ?
ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-5-15#355861 << shant, then.
ave1: same as last time, ADA_OBJECTS_PATH and ADA_INCLUDE_PATH need to be *not* set. I can add the resetting of these variables to the script, but unsetting a variable is not something I usually do in a script.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-15 13:53 asciilifeform: unless it wants a nonstandard var name ? ( what does it want? there are 0 docs )
ave1: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-15#1813474, it uses MAKEOPTS, could you paste the contents of "build/build-bootstrap/config.sh" ? I will add a readme file to the set. ☝︎
mod6: Still, having them is required, but we still gotta sell 'em.
mod6: ah, maybe that as for 96. anyway, will wait for ben_vulpes
mod6: I'm just trying to figure out if Pizarro has enough cash to get 48 of these down there.