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BingoBoingo: It's a hell of a spread, but this is the lowest I've seen the Argentine peso in my time here. Compra/Venta on the USD is 30/31 so the Pesos Uruguayo has dropped a bit too, but WTF Argentina
mircea_popescu: hey, better than the 3.5x it was for a while.
BingoBoingo: And in other developments, Cambios are now buying Argentine pesos for 0.9 Pesos Uruguayos. The cambios however are still selling Argentine Pesos for 1.6 Pesos Uruguayos.
mircea_popescu: burn the whole shitpile down omfg.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the fucking cheek of those fuckers. seriously, they're going to be the indirection layer between you and your friends ? and what else, "web platforms" ?
mircea_popescu: just like i'd rather pay bitcoin tx fees than other chrap. jesus christ.
mircea_popescu: jurov, yes, wires are not free. i'd rather pay that 50 than almost any other 50 though.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, some of the "transferwise" "customers" are evidently into money laundering, as the entire "service" transparently reeks of. soo... mno.
jurov: before bitcoin, i was paid from australia by wires and it was deplorable, ~50 euro fees unpredictable every time
asciilifeform: my current guess ( given that jurov did not say in detail ) is that he was involved with it on ~receiving~ end, unknowingly , and that some % of the folx offering 'wire' for btc, actually send spamolafauxwire
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Kinds looks like the idea the RIPple folks RIPple'd off.
mircea_popescu: who the fuck would want to get involved with that nonsense jebus.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: sounds like the old 'ripple' scamola
BingoBoingo: from wikipedoia: "TransferWise routes payments not by transferring the sender's money directly to the recipient, but by redirecting them to the recipient of an equivalent transfer going in the opposite direction. Likewise, the recipient of the transfer receives a payment not from the sender initiating the transfer, but from the sender of the equivalent transfer. This process avoids currency conversion and transfers crossing borders"
jurov: transferwise was better than paypal as they don't hold funds, they send each wire directly to my bank. if i used paypal, they have no problem to seize whole account.
mircea_popescu: well, fwis "something happened i can't be arsed to debug". which is a perfectly fine and even somewhat common failure mode.
asciilifeform: i mean, out of context, it reads quite oddly, '... and then i was excommunicated' 'but were you even in the church' 'no' '???'
mircea_popescu: a well then there's that.
mircea_popescu: i dunno specifically, but you follow the trail, in general.
asciilifeform: jurov: from the description, it sounds like a paypal. so say you were proclaimed persona non grata by paypal. what's it to you ?
mircea_popescu: well, you ask whoever told you "so and so decliend" who asked them anything.
mircea_popescu: so who asked them ?
asciilifeform: i was about to ask
jurov: asciilifeform: transferwise declined all further wires to my acct
diana_coman: asciilifeform, aha, I know; my point was: we need to have this tested and ironed out and we are golden
asciilifeform: jurov: what , exactly , happened ? the wire unwound ? police showed up and burned down house ?
lobbesbot: jurov: Sent 18 hours and 59 minutes ago: <BingoBoingo> http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/ahdGa/?raw=true Thank you
a111: Logged on 2018-05-16 00:10 mircea_popescu: re http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-15#1813559 : one important palliative measure would be for ben_vulpes to create a strong presence on localbitcoins, if nowhere else. there's people there willing to do wires for you, and you never know when it comes handy in a pinch.
jurov: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-16#1813874 << i was somewhat successful on localbitcoins, until (presumably, noone said me details) they started to wire me stolen money. ☝︎☟︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-15 21:28 asciilifeform: diana_coman: steps to replicate: 0) on a machine WITH A WORKING GNAT (e.g. adacore's , and it must be in your path already ) 1 ) download the tarball from http://ave1.org/2018/building-gnat-on-musl-now-with-partial-and-parallel-build-support 2) unpack tarball ada-musl-cross-2018-05-15.tgz , go to the dir 3) mkdir bin << this is where the built binariola will live 4) ./build-ada.sh /home/foo/temp/ada/ada-musl-cross-2018-05-15/bin
asciilifeform: ( in shot 1, it used the adacore gnat installed in first step of procedure http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-15#1813719 ) ☝︎
asciilifeform: in theory this is exactly what you'll get if you 1) install the output of ave1's system on a clean box 2) build the thing, now there, again
diana_coman: ah, free bla bla; no, I meant with the output of ave1's script (even if at the very root one used adacore's, once upon a time, fine); basically what I was trying to do yesterday on rockchip
asciilifeform: i assume 'non-adacore' implied the former ?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: there are 2 known gnat codebase 'forks' , 'fsf'/gnu and adacore
asciilifeform: this'd be quite a feat, even small proggies apparently have problems building with the 'gnuified' gnat
diana_coman: I'd really like to have a clear and tested way to bootstrap with non-adacore gnat though
diana_coman: ave1, happy to say that your script worked perfectly fine on x86_64 with Adacore's 2016 gnat!
mircea_popescu: "why no more persian empire after 600 ?" "because they started asking the wrong things of the wrong people"
mircea_popescu: ve centuries after the fact) directly map into current republican ideology on the topic.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-16 15:13 mircea_popescu , incidentally, is a huge persian poetry fan. i mean the pre rinascimento stuff.
mircea_popescu: to continue http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-16#1814352 : take the nizami story of khosrow (last persian ruler) and shirin (possibly roman princess). not only is it usually rendered in pantsuit retellings as "farhad and shirin" (farhad being the politruk, modernist element / in his own mind only rival to the king), but the very naive "women get a say, not the natural but the fabricated sort" it's steeped in (written as it is fi ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-16 03:57 asciilifeform: 1 man can carry 4u, or rather 100kg ( it is possible to have >4u in regulation-sized trunks ) plus rucksack 10kg.
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-16#1814083 << Unless it changed on Copa from the US you should be getting two checked bags, one overhead carryon up to 22kg, and one rucksack for under the seat in front of you. ☝︎
BingoBoingo: Going on six weeks without a sighting. I was worried the Irish would reinfest the place, but that worry hasn't been realized
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i dun do flea pits. ( might stay extra day or two at own expense, in proper room, as time permits )
a111: Logged on 2018-05-16 13:32 asciilifeform: and re time on site : i can't picture needing more than 3 days : 1 to sleep ( asciilifeform can't sleep on planes ) ; 1 to install fg and emplace the boxen into the rack ; 1 for overflow .
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-16#1814280 << If you want more overflow time in UY, there's plenty of racks in the barracks this time of year ☝︎
mod6: ben_vulpes: but overall, I agree, sooner is better than later.
mod6: I guess, it may all be moot if we can't easily convert the BTC->USD to pay ze bills.
mod6: I think we could maybe get it done by end of May. However, we have two other things that need primary focus (others may disagree) at the moment. We need to pay bills, and we need BTC->USD interface.
ben_vulpes: walk around with hat-in-hand, even to boston partizans
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform mod6: y'all have a timeline for this second round or are we going to leave it at "when necessary"? i prefer to capture commitments shortly after their made (none of this private equity "you commit twenty million today, we ask for it in three years and returns are evaluated on time from wire clearing to divestment date" silliness), and moreover having and not needing trumps needing and having to
a111: Logged on 2018-05-01 16:25 phf: aight, i'm going to be out of commission until mid may. i have comments for eulora that i need to type up (i got to sit down with a printout out over this weekend), i'm not sure about the amount of work required for the grapher until i have time to sit down and read v.pl (i sort of have an idea of how to implement it as part of vtools, but i'm not sure if the slicing is adequate), until i do i don't have a clear idea of how long it's going to take. i m
mircea_popescu hasn't had this much fun since highschool.
mod6: We need to pay billz :D
mircea_popescu: the day we celebrate the international phf's pregnancies day ?
mircea_popescu: oh btw, is today the 16th of may ?
mod6: mod6 can make up the difference if required (I believe).
mod6: I'm fine to do another round of at least 5 (maybe more) -- but I was under the impression that asciilifeform was sort-of nearly btc-tapped out. But I didn't want to presume anything.
mircea_popescu: welcome to the lifecycle of business intro course!
mircea_popescu: so agree that you'll each add another 5btc as circumstances merit ; then pizarro has all the backing it needs and a clear path to success. and if the circumstances "merit" in the sense that it needs rescuing rather than it's expanding, you can fire the management and get someone else or w/e. ☟︎
mod6: But, yeah, we're trying to figure out what makes sense here.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> or does mod6 do 20 you do 5 and you're ballooned out ? :D << This is a possibility. Although, I'm not sure I want to outlay that much at the moment.
mircea_popescu: the fact that pizarro is actually well supported is the principal part, for its commercial credit. otherwise, it can't well spend even the 10 it has so far, 1.5 or so go to the rockchips, then it's all "get sales going".
asciilifeform: ( i dun insist that other folx 'keep in the pants' )
asciilifeform: if he wants to
asciilifeform: mod6: was thinking 5 ( and that'll be most of asciilifeform's coin ... )
mod6: asciilifeform: how do you feel about such a proposition? If I add in another, say 5 or 10 BTC, does this present any problems in your mind?
mod6: So there's a couple things in the air: We're workin on it. :]
mod6: One thing that's immediately pressing us is that we need to figure out this BTC->USD conversion problem discussed yesterday.
mircea_popescu: well then pizarro is doing fine!
mod6: I think I'm fine to personally add in another 5 BTC at least, maybe 10 BTC. But depends on discussions, etc.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-16 14:42 asciilifeform: ( retaining some knob for dynamic linkage isn't totally useless, it enables such things as valgrind ; but i'm quite prepared to lose valgrind, it is not really so necessary when writing asciilifeform-style -- heapless -- ada )
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-16#1814305 << i was thinking, valgrind is more of a "let's see what the githubheads did here" tool than a "i wonder if i can write code" tool. ☝︎
mod6: <+asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: i'm not opposed to 2nd round, and would participate, iirc ben_vulpes & mod6 are weighing the numberz even as we speak. << yeah, we've been talking about this, indeed.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, oh turns out i was confused, it is github he's doing.
mircea_popescu: alrighty then.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6, you see holes in ye logic ? << Sounds good. I think that s.nsa building the chassis then we do it as stated is fine. (unless I misunderstand). Pizarro will pay for these in cash. I agree too on staying away from the equity buys as well.
mircea_popescu: oh ? hm. i thought that was ave1 lol. ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that was mats . iirc spyked is doing shithub rewalk
mircea_popescu: spyked, by the way, are you hitting both ssh and https for cert keys ? or just ssh ?
a111: Logged on 2018-05-16 13:38 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-16#1814257 << keys from where ? plz to specify when reporting
a111: Logged on 2018-05-16 13:37 asciilifeform: cross compiler also not very useful imho. let the thing build a pc and an arm compiler ( and yes if it has to build cross compiler in the process, let it , but consider it to be a strictly intermediate step )
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-16#1814286 << this isn't even such a terrible way to go about things. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-16 13:35 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-16#1814192 << definitely not 28. unless a separate fg-less unit is built, then can hold 32 . and yes i have a cad drawing in progress, so as to work like men rather than monkeys in africa
mircea_popescu: in any case is the strategic reason for the republican positioning.
asciilifeform: at one time asciilifeform hypothesized 'lizards want to unwind the mechant age and install selves as pseudo-feudal nobility' but today not sure of any such thing, possibly just fungal growth
mircea_popescu: this is the sad fact of the matter, fucktarded bureaucrats have managed to shit over the true core of what europe even fucking ever was.
mircea_popescu: hey, other then the times i get pissed off it's a pleasure.
asciilifeform: btw i dunno if i ever did, but would like to thank mircea_popescu for teaching to asciilifeform , slowly and painfully and for phree, his craft ( organizational, commercial ) .
mircea_popescu: a cool then.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'm not opposed to 2nd round, and would participate, iirc ben_vulpes & mod6 are weighing the numberz even as we speak.
mircea_popescu: well one direct solution is to enlarge baloon as above.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i have nothing against 's.nsa owns 10%' scenario, early in the game it was a much-needed breathing room for pizarro. but would like to avoid the situation of the well-known children's physics demo, with the two connected balloons.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, anyway, an' ftr, if your concern is that you're underweight pizarro, you can just as well do a second round. see if mod6 wants to either a) give it more btc or else b) move into a minority position. pizarro would certainly benefit from a larger piggy giving it more solidity etc, so you can do another 10-20 round either by yourself if mod6 is agreeable or else match together or any which old way. this isn't an u
mircea_popescu: i dunno why i assumed that's the case, but good you said something, as it'd never have occured to me to ask, either.
asciilifeform: i try to at least sometimes think n-moves ahead..
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, im not gonna let them. i had no idea you didn't think it's the most excellent the idea. now that i do, hey.
asciilifeform: worx for me. but ftr if ben_vulpes and mod6 succumb to temptation of equity-buying, and mircea_popescu , in turn, agrees, it will likely lead to the regrettable situation pictured earlier.