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mircea_popescu: how did you think luzerhosting works ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: guess ?! 'which of 1500 users , hey let me throw a dart ' ? lol
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i have a jar of clear and nonexothermic potting epoxy right here. unfortunately it probably would not make it through airport
trinque: imho *that* is the product
trinque has to run, but behold usg.aws lacks arm hosting
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: let's for sake of argument ignore other problems than 'whole box craps out' (i.e. particular users being hosed, by unknown party, with no recourse ) . how to determine which customer is culprit ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, it's not completely broken. it'\s completely breakable, which is a different thing.
BingoBoingo: instead of amber tinted?
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 17:55 asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: at the very least, need a 680mm ( or at worst, 650mm ) 2u ( most economical bang/buck variant ) chassis with NO welded-in internal partitions
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: i also have open problems that you could probably help with. for instance, i am in search of a http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1814828 , and of 32 ( or at worst , 2 x 16 ) port GB/s ~bare pcb~ ethernet switches that don't come with 'minumal order 1000' chinesium insult << Will get to searching. Thoughts on a good way to perform epoxy potting on my personal FUCKGOAT that would be actually transparent ☝︎
asciilifeform: if ben_vulpes or anybody else can think of a better pill -- asciilifeform is all ears.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: this is the reason why i even built the rc pilot cluster; because it is a (laborious, and expensive, but genuine) solution to $problem
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, what, they told you twas gonna be easy ? come up with something!!11
asciilifeform: ( asciilifeform for instance has a rough draft of an adatronic ftpd . but this is not production-ready )
ben_vulpes: how the fuck am i to meaningfully sell shared shells on this thing then, if anyone who pays for a month can get in and wreck everyone else on it.
mircea_popescu: you still get to time the machine ; and whosoever times the machine owns the machine.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: it is possible to set up ftp properly .
asciilifeform: in the current scheme, you dun even need privescs to cause headaches for people, users can connect to each other's sql db listeners etc
ben_vulpes: does this extend to ftp users as well?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: the 'weeks' can mean 'minutes' in practice, if the planets align
trinque: all you need is a privesc in one of the services running as root, or kernel-side bug, or..
asciilifeform: it's roughly same isolation as the lock on your house's bathroom.
ben_vulpes: a few weeks of sweat to get root?
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 14:51 asciilifeform: fact of the matter is that shared unix tenant can create problems for the others ( without necessarily revealing himself as the source of said problem ) quite trivially . ( vps is moar 'nobus' in this respect, generally the 'escapes' are not public )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the problem set in http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1814702 is unfortunately not limited to 'hose the box' ☝︎
BingoBoingo: The easy, inconvenient cut is a second 1U box for the crowd. Web panel, quotas, frequent regular backups, and maybe a hot spare box..
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-03-22 17:08 asciilifeform: i for instance do not see why , if it's wot l1 people living in it, it has to expend the cpu overhead to pretend-isolate and vm-ize. why not simply traditional unix accounts.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: look back to the thread where i gave the current shared-box scheme: http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-3-22#317360
mircea_popescu: you'll end up with rebuilsing the vps you fled from.
asciilifeform: given an account on a linux box, e.g. asciilifeform ( who is not in particularly top shape re subj ) can get root, in a few days or few wks (max) of sweat
mircea_popescu: the answer to that is no.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: can you tell me what kind of bad behavior can be monitored for and how much of a pain it is to set up?
ben_vulpes appends to whiteboard
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 14:49 asciilifeform: the only serious weakness of shared-unix is what happens when you start populating it with randos, rather than the l1/tight-l2 currently living there
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i hate to add to already tall pile of puzzlers, but at some point we will have to seriously consider the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1814695 item . ☝︎
ben_vulpes: lobbes, and BingoBoingo while i'm at it since i want to get you on the same train, what kind of commission makes sense to you for flogging shared shells? ☟︎
asciilifeform spent week in the company of BingoBoingo , and confirms that the most serious problem currently is morale , d00d needs some light in his pillbox
mircea_popescu: management is playing with people's lives, one's well advised to be considerate.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, let me put it even sharper : you have a man who conquered a drinking habit in a position which regularily drives men to drink ; and he's complained about not having sane AA there what, twice ?
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 17:55 asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: at the very least, need a 680mm ( or at worst, 650mm ) 2u ( most economical bang/buck variant ) chassis with NO welded-in internal partitions
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i also have open problems that you could probably help with. for instance, i am in search of a http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1814828 , and of 32 ( or at worst , 2 x 16 ) port GB/s ~bare pcb~ ethernet switches that don't come with 'minumal order 1000' chinesium insult ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i have absolutely no trouble at all repelling http://trilema.com/2016/why-is-that/#comment-117928 "o noes, sky is fall't" ~for a reason~.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> so we could say part of your problem here is idleness. << Indeed. Laying groundwork to start drinking webhosting ocean.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, understand that merely clear signs that management is aware of problems and working on them, and open communications are a larger morale boost than pretty much anything else. it's how folk manage to man pill boxes, which suck for any other criteria.
asciilifeform: really i advise ben_vulpes to get that chalkboard. quite srsly, i do not say this to make ben_vulpes cry, but because it is genuinely a win
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: recall, lobbes offered to work sales on commission
ben_vulpes: or a mircea_popescu fetlife-style automated PMer to do the outbound
ben_vulpes: the active filtering i'd like to put in is either a regular set of eyeballs (BingoBoingo's, or the mentioned-tangentially sales guy to hire) on the "design" corners of these hosting forums to pm our ads for shells on the shared server to folks who are building websites directly ☟︎
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: it is. i have neglected sales and putting BingoBoingo to work on that and conveying to him what he needs to know in order to do the shared hosting work that has until now landed on my plate. with the manual i published yesterday im now in a position to hand off new shared shell customers to him, and am looking at a list of hosting forums i put together for filtering over the past two days.
BingoBoingo works on drinking the ocean
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo will , i suspect , have all 8 hands full when the full-scale rockchiptron is brought online and tentants come/go regularly
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, why do you have an idle resource on the ground ? this is what management is, yes ? keeping the mills fed ?
BingoBoingo: In the past month, aside from asciilifeform's visit roughly and hour to and hour and a half a day on strictly pizzaro business, minus time awaiting instructions. For the couple weeks after the ben_vulpes visit there was a consecutive run of days well over 8 hours. The work has been incredibly bursty in its flavor.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, for my entirely idle curiosity, what sort of time occupancy have you seen in the past month ? 12.5% ie hour/day ? more ? less ?
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/the-retards-handshake/ << Trilema - The retard's handshake
mircea_popescu: seemed to me the way ben_vulpes was going was towards a yes/no type response. aanyways.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: They asked me to put forward an idea. It isn't the best idea, but it one that makes the idea of continuing to stomach life in a country populated by a people I hate and who are culturally programmed to piss me off. I would like them to structure something they can afford instead of biting on this proposal.
mircea_popescu: saying "well, there's objective costs to $X, be it installing a rack or being in uy, these have to be paid" is one thing ; but seems you're discussing another thing, and how can you, i, ben_vulpes , anyone else transform "future" into "btc value" ?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, obviously people working at something should pick the rewards of their work. what i don't get is why are you formulating this split in absolute rather than relative terms ?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo, why do you suspect pizarro can pay something like that ? << The idea is that there is a path for pizarro to get revenue. If pizarro can´t afford something closer to that than the current arrangement, I suspect they can't afford to keep someone in Uruguay.
asciilifeform: if it were, we wouldn't have this thread
mircea_popescu: isn't the leg brought out to the contacts ?
mircea_popescu: is there some way to slice the wipe leg off the assemblage
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if we had any fab capacity to speak of, these'd be the priority items : 1) large homogeneous fpga 2) otp roms 3) 1+2 ☟︎
asciilifeform: and they suffer same bitrot and single-event problems as eeproms/'flash', incl. 'throw it out after 20 yrs'
mircea_popescu: is this something we could maybe do ?
asciilifeform: all 'otp roms' sold today are actually eproms with the write leg tied to ground.
asciilifeform: not for love or money can you get'em, other than laughably tiny old-stock things (1kB and below)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i wasn't even thinking of asking for true antifuse sd card , considering that antifuse roms have been unavailable since early 1990s ( see prev thread re subj )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, there's some argument (cheapness) for including one single antifuse rather than making the whole thing out of them.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, why do you suspect pizarro can pay something like that ?
trinque: looks like sandisk and a few others released some 2008-2010ish, and then radio silence
asciilifeform: inside there is a commercial flash ic. it has a WR leg.
asciilifeform: i was speaking of the ~back~ end of the thing. not front.
ave1: yes, I see, unfortunately the pins do not have a rx/tx like serial
a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 11:59 ascii_lander: 'we do not have isolation' is more honest than 'we have cisco-powered isolation'
asciilifeform: ave1: consider the central idea in e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-18#1801998 thread. ☝︎
asciilifeform: ave1: even if by all appearances it's a truly perma-settable bit, i'd still muchly prefer a card where i can actually toggle the WR leg of the eeprom
ben_vulpes: so to enloggify BingoBoingo's opening ask, that's ~1.9 btc let's call them bonuses and then another ~.7 btc in salary over the year (all at current rates), is that right?
asciilifeform: i distinctly recall reading of a means to reset said flag. unfortunately, cannot now find, grrr
ave1: no it is not unclear, it's reported to be unresettable everywhere and I do not have a card laying about here.
asciilifeform: i know, for a fact, that the software-settable flag, is software-clearable.
asciilifeform: NO SOFTWARE TOGGLES
asciilifeform: ave1: is the meaning of 'true hardware write protect' unclear ?!!
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 15:24 asciilifeform: in other noose, asciilifeform found that otp microsd cards exist!! should substantially lower the labour cost of maintaining rockchip cluster. IF i can actually find a vendor !
ave1: asciilifeform, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1814751, did you look at this tool https://github.com/BertoldVdb/sdtool? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-04 21:17 BingoBoingo: ^ ben_vulpes mod6 asciilifeform I have proposed a start for negotiations on a compensation package through February 2019 for your consideration here: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/#fn1-1909
BingoBoingo continuing to wait while management digests http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-04#1809694 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: you will sooner or later run into issues you need actual professional help with. just like the cold. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: Well, sure. I speak friendly to at least one confirmed accountant at the cowork. There are definitely more candidates I can audition than in December.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Sure, but to approach them on behalf of Pizarro, Pizarro's gotta have something for me to ask of them.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, this is very common. but now your spanish is better.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: i suspect that english material is a leper's bell << It is
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ( with parts, the fact that they have to arrive in the country with either 300% tax , or in submarine, or up an arse, at least partly explains. but why there are ~no sane accounting folx , remains puzzler ) << Now in May there appear to be better options accessible than in december, but they don't have languages other than Spanish in their toolkit.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, because nobody ever told them they better be useful. so they're "nice" or w/e.
asciilifeform: 'idjit gringos come here, to be eaten'
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i suspect that english material is a leper's bell
BingoBoingo: Here's another gringo fixer's guide on the incorporation process, but his own fees which he neglects to list are still more expensive http://www.mondaq.com/Uruguay/x/583558/Corporate+Commercial+Law/Forming+A+Company+In+Uruguay
asciilifeform: possibly the 2 are connected -- no serious commerce, ergo no specialists
asciilifeform: ( with parts, the fact that they have to arrive in the country with either 300% tax , or in submarine, or up an arse, at least partly explains. but why there are ~no sane accounting folx , remains puzzler )