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asciilifeform: this isn't same box as had the sad backlight is it
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but as far as it was concerned, i suspect it also "didn't have" the switch. you should see wtf windows has morphed into, jesus christ.
asciilifeform: this is sorta why e.g. FUCKGOATS runs on 40 milliwatt ( of which 95% are lost as heat in the 10x-margined analogue pwr filtration in the daughterboards) whereas pc burns 100watt if were doing same work, etc
phf: also kako's format includes a unique id as the first field, obviously will also need to be removed
phf: nah, makes no difference in this particular situation. you want your thing to come back by any means necessary to continue witnessing. as of now "coming back" is a much more complicated process
asciilifeform: i suspect that fleanode will only get moar broken as time marches on, never less.
asciilifeform: prolly the Right Thing would be to have the actual logtrons ( phf's, ben_vulpes's , Framedragger's if he were still alive , etc ) sync to one another as fallback ☟︎
phf: asciilifeform: i saw it, i'm pointing out that this addition breaks things. you have to make sure that every single client plays along with freenode's defective ident system, otherwise you get breaks in logs, etc. e.g. phf bouncer is used as a fallback for logs, to ensure continuity, where the fact that the bouncer would come back naively (i.e. without trying to negotiate with nickserv) was a feature ☟︎
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in archaeology, https://archive.is/DSMvg >> 'running a couple Mikrotik RB532 routerboards as broadband gateway routers under OpenWRT 10.03.1... ...looks like /dev/random provides no entopy'
mircea_popescu: "you mean some text is going to be repeated billions of times and referenced as such from here to eternity ? damn."
mircea_popescu: https://archive.is/RTBp0/08c6a025426c09e313ab4e9b30f20f7a1719b6b6.gif << the fucking sad of the github bound. they're stuck doing animated gifs of "how to use this" because the video processors masquerading as "users" that click on the page literally lack the literacy to use anything written.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform fundamental misunderstanding of what an encyclopedia is. pro tip : d'alembert's item was an ~elite~ retelling of the world. the mass retelling of the world isn't a retelling, isn't of the world, and interests as much as any other fly metabolism byproducts.
asciilifeform: was optimizing rss crapper so that it doesn't idiotically do whole cpu/hour of work each time cache expires, evidently introduced a sad where a new find of $factor triggers old mods as report
lobbes: http://blog.lobbesblog.com/2018/07/auctionbot-eta-and-status-report/#selection-71.0-71.11 << update: I have completed a successful test run of an external .py script communicating on IRC via logbot and the listen/notify mechanisms of postgres. Best part is that I've got a solid foundation for bot command handling as a result of the testing. Blog post soon on the details of playing 'ping-pong' with logbot and postgres as the paddle
mod6: we are trying to get more drives down there, as you know. but could be a while until we have any spares at all.
asciilifeform: usb suggested as stopgap
mircea_popescu: what am i agreeing with here ? yes i agree pizarro should have on hand a dozen of each type of disk it uses, at the least. and yes as per ancient http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-13#1825188 it seems a good move for it. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-12#1841012 << this, seems good as it is tbh. let the republican style development work, if anyone for some reason needs, the anyone asks by explaining the reason and we see. ☝︎
asciilifeform: meanwhile... i'ma do a speshul singleshot run with ~only~ mats parcel1 (i.e. minus errything prior to june) as input , just to get a sense of what lies ahead. output will appear in #asciilifeform later today.
asciilifeform: ( 4x, as large as can be had. )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: we are gonna have to activate the s.nsa spare box, as a storage cluster ( and get disks to fill same )
asciilifeform: ... in fact, loox like there won't be any moar phuctor output until i get a 1TB disk hooked up ( will have to be on a usb snake, luckily i left BingoBoingo with one -- as all 4 drive bays on dulap are full )
asciilifeform: aaaand lol, just as i said this, realized that index gen will bring the machine to its knees for coupla hr.
mircea_popescu: sometimes you read like "here's a picture of the apple tree in socialism, as you can see, it makes fruit to help the 5year plan", you know that ?
mircea_popescu: read the thing quoted. it says http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-08#1787189 and http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-08#1787190 for a fucking reason. that reason is, that for as long as freenode persists in "code of conduct" and "women aren't meat" and assorted nonsense, the republic is wealthy, and the republic is powerful, and yes someone will pay so that hilary "inexplicably" loses "the election". ☝︎☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-08-04 22:25 mircea_popescu: anyway, tbh i'm mostly encouraging the utter collapse of freenode's "security" model. it should be obvious that lode/ae dorks could just as well REGISTER the spambots. it's a fully automated process, what's the problem, emails ? gimme a break.
deedbot: 891F03D110B58CD7985D5FBB4CF88D683C827AC8 registered as rain2. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: "digital divide" a-ok nao, for reasons (see "code of conduct", i'm sure it explains why they can blather all they want for as long as they do exactly what we say etc)
a111: Logged on 2018-07-16 15:44 mircea_popescu: as we're contemplating an eulora client rewrite, i am contemplating the following code release paradigm : client author a) releases code encrypted to l1, signed and deeded (so basically, gpg -aer asciilifeform -r ave1 -r etc) ; b) releases precompiled binaries for allcomers.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-10 00:07 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-09#1840508 << will be interesting to check these against mats's mega-collection ( subj above ) , as i understand it is reasonably fresh and covers good % of ipv4
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-09#1840508 << will be interesting to check these against mats's mega-collection ( subj above ) , as i understand it is reasonably fresh and covers good % of ipv4 ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: their fucking "workflow". as if anyone "working" for github ever did any work.
asciilifeform: for non-expert entomologists : the perps ( i dun distinguish b/w 'bug'-inserters and coverup-artists ) ~continue~ to spew the squid ink where the patch is disguised as 'for denial of service bug' rather than arbitrary r/w -- despite the cat being out of the bag for nearly whole day nao
jurov: while !S can be kept as is, only show the one IP banner is from.
spyked: jurov, thanks for the idea! sbcl's resolver (sb-bsd-sockets:get-host-by-name) returns both addresses on my machine, but querying each of them for the banner might break the one-response-per-command rule (I could try to string them all together in one response, but I find that ugly). so maybe I could add DNS resolution as a separate command?
asciilifeform: phf: fwiw ( and possibly i mentioned this in the past ) asciilifeform works with... undocumented corners of microshitiana , for his bread. ( would liek to stop, but i dun see it happening any time soon . ) but i wouldn't wish it on other people, or recommend it as a 'promising career' etc.
asciilifeform: here i must disagree, asciilifeform as recently as 2016 set up a crapple with full complement of unixlike tools, incl gnat, via 'macports'
a111: Logged on 2017-12-18 01:25 phf: meanwhile, homebrew, the mac os x package manager, finally pulled the final bate and switch. "build from source" option is now marked as "unsupported" (!!!) in the man pages, everything's being pulled using precompiled archives. building a non-trivial set of packages from source fails along the way with clearly misconfigured formulas. this is possibly of interest only to ben_vulpes (?)
mircea_popescu: but i do see your line as quite persuasive and well supported, "modernity essentially consists of feminization of the male in the sense of getting boys to believe their brains are a sort of cunts"
mircea_popescu: anyway, discussion of the freenode lulz is ~entirely absent. turns out freenode was exactly as dead as http://trilema.com/2018/and-in-other-dead-things/ suggests.
mircea_popescu: o look at that, "argentinian sysadmin community". let me dispel any such nonsense : there is no such thing as an argentine sysadmin.
BingoBoingo: As it is, the lumps en tramite para ser loaves are overwhelming the little silicone loaf pans
BingoBoingo: Mocky: 10-4 I'm reading it as we speak
asciilifeform: prolly will come in as soon as ben_vulpes hooks up the log.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-06 22:17 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-06#1840047 << i believe item in question started as "lulz what else can we print wit dis thing" kind of like at a house party at 4am one tries to figure out what else can be used as a vodka mixer, but the government ban turned it into "i do what i want mom!1"
mircea_popescu: you do make him do the victory merry gig in those, as paert of the game, yes ?
asciilifeform: it's exactly same thing as where the haskelltards carefully, studiously avoid making a lisp.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-06 22:17 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-06#1840047 << i believe item in question started as "lulz what else can we print wit dis thing" kind of like at a house party at 4am one tries to figure out what else can be used as a vodka mixer, but the government ban turned it into "i do what i want mom!1"
a111: Logged on 2018-08-06 21:25 asciilifeform: was given by asciilifeform as example of 'what the 'open sores arms' people might do if they weren't dropped on their heads as children'
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-06#1840047 << i believe item in question started as "lulz what else can we print wit dis thing" kind of like at a house party at 4am one tries to figure out what else can be used as a vodka mixer, but the government ban turned it into "i do what i want mom!1" ☝︎☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: still lulzy if considered as grunt weapon ( i can picture, for saboteur, but for grunt -- laugh )
asciilifeform: tree of reason may as well be tree of eden, to them.
asciilifeform: if they wanted to demo 'futility of usg control', could start by showing that car battery + distilled h2o + coupla hrs will level a brick house just as well as dynamite, etc.
asciilifeform: i can just as easily think of 8999 other example.
asciilifeform: was given by asciilifeform as example of 'what the 'open sores arms' people might do if they weren't dropped on their heads as children' ☟︎
asciilifeform: afaik exactly as frangible as pb
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as big a bang as you have reactant, neh
mircea_popescu: Mocky yes, as far as information is concerned, photon unbeatable. as far as mass-interaction however, photon never ever gligible.
mircea_popescu: i dunno how capable of maintaining 02 safely partizans even are, considering a) http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-13#1824489 and b) even molotov cocktails went out of business, as "too dangerous" (to the derps). ☝︎
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: funnily enuff, ru air corps still teaches ramming as a legit move << Mass has always been the equalizer
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: funnily enuff, ru air corps still teaches ramming as a legit move
asciilifeform: ( usa Officially doesn't , because 'treaty', but surely does, given as any idjit with fiddybux can pick up a 5-10W laser diode with 0 questions asked )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: cn had pretty decent 'eye burner' as far back as 1990s
mircea_popescu: recall how the whole sintered magic was going to "change the world as you know it" ?
BingoBoingo: Those things support the cultured pearl theory. A hive mind that reliably bloopered this way wouldn't be as bad a the true Reddit
diana_coman: yeah, that there is a fun read but as asciilifeform said most probably a cultured pearl essentially
BingoBoingo: Or any sks at all, so long as it's not a Chicom one (Clinton I regime weird)
mircea_popescu: as in the http://trilema.com/2016/and-they-wont-fucking-yield/#selection-127.158-131.25 ; you understand this, the merit washing is done in "secret" meetings so small and inconsequential the irc spammer kids could force them.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-01 23:35 asciilifeform: who was, for some years, subscribed to all kinds of nonsensical snailmail spamola as result of once being in 'nra'
diana_coman: it's not in plugins.php atm, that much is clear; maybe hanbot can help as she seems to have the footnotes working on her blog
a111: Logged on 2016-11-30 23:04 asciilifeform: 'As more people with less commitment to quality and much less attention to detail got involved in writing it, its educational value diminished, too. It is like going to a library full of books that took 50 man-years to produce each, inventing a way to cut down the costs to a few man-months per book by copying and randomly improving on other books, and then wondering why nobody thinks your library full of these cheaper books is an in
mircea_popescu: a lot of what mod6 is stuck doing currently strikes me as exactly that, as the least constructive take (more constructively, it's training him in accounting and valuation fundamentals, which is not a waste at all).
asciilifeform: i was thinking from 'truck fleet' pov, where depreciation is computed as a practical approximation to q of 'when will i need to buy new ones'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i think it is only worth doing systematically if it can be done in such a way as to not require phd assembly line.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: reading the depreciations thread, i remembered that it is physically possible to compute an 'exact' depreciation value for ssd drives, as they have 'odometer'. do you think this is worth doing systematically ?
ben_vulpes: i'm not entirely clear as to the benefits of depreciation under the tmsr accounting regime; most of my experience has to do with optimizing tax treatment in fiatlandia which is irrelephant here
asciilifeform: http://www.pegasoft.ca/pal.html >> 'The PAL is a library of Ada and VHDL software, information, and courseware that contains over 1 BILLION bytes of material (mainly in compressed form). All items in the PAL have been released to the public with unlimited distribution, and, in most cases (the exceptions are shareware), the items are freeware.' << BUT all 3 mirrors dead as dodo.
Mocky: ^ circa '96 "The goal of this binding is to make scripting language features, such as associative arrays, regular expression matching, and execution of OS commands available to an Ada programmer and to allow a Tcl programmer to use Ada in place of C where needed"
asciilifeform: i've been thinking about this: seems as if ~every~ proggy where author does not explicitly set objective of compactness, balloons like a midwest ameristani chix
mircea_popescu: but anyway ; much as in the case of "no mechanical trust", there's no such thing as an "automated" valuation. the value of things requires thought, at all interfaces, which is to say wheresoever the thing potentially changes hands, even if just mentally. these are just minute re-applications of ye olde "no possibility of meaning outside of structure of authority". of fucking course all authority is predicated on thought, and
mod6: jurov: um, not sure? i would venture to guess that we depreciate monthly as it's possible that a piece of equipment might die before a year is up, or even come DOA.
asciilifeform: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/ap30o/?raw=true << ftr, what happens if you do try to press it. it balks, given as a/examples/constraint/constraint.adb 2df5271a0e78caef0b8281740aeaae60e9e298614951710fd488b7cefc268d151729a682bce66205d310c45a8afb6fa173b1c4e9331fc5ec3cdabdf6663c86eb never existed in genesis.
mod6: the wildcat bonus is listed as '0.30487805'. Am I doing something wrong, or missing something above ^
ben_vulpes: i'm here, we're close to the bottom. may as well finish it out.
ben_vulpes: mod6: what else troubles ye, i have other sisyphean boulders slipping back downhill as we speak
mod6: yeah, i noticed this before that it's not quite the same number as listed in netchange
ben_vulpes: (to be used in next months reports, etc. hence "reports as ground truth and not your account balance")
ben_vulpes: calculated per "sum the value of all non-capitalized purchases (DC, fiat spent denominated in BTC, and the sum of depreciation charges), and mark that as net change for intangibles and goodwill"
a111: Logged on 2016-08-06 04:47 ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: how does the server rental fee make sense as "intangibles and goodwill"?
ben_vulpes: mod6: for what it's worth, i twice audited holdings while generating statements and they both came out correct. i suggest you use the statement generation process (combing through ledger/invoice output) to generate statements first, and audit against your personal accounts as a check.
ben_vulpes: book truth lies in the statements; it is useful to verify that the cash line is correct but i would use it as a check, not the starting point from which to generate statements given a) payment timing b) personal use of accounts
ben_vulpes: usd/uyu are fiat assets. get booked as tangibles. see the tangibles table.
mod6: (im adding that in, because even though it was paid on 8/3 it belongs in the July statement - as you have also listed it in the BTC Incoming/Outgoing table.
mod6: Further more, he seems to like it as a good place to receive items. So maybe just strike the part that says "no further need for coworking desk" and edit to something like "expected reduction in cost for cowork desk" or something thereabouts.
asciilifeform: ( for bonus lulz, was triggered by an intel official microcode patch as gzip payload... )
asciilifeform: same as openbsd.
mircea_popescu: <milky25> Freenode is registered as a "private company limited by guarantee without share capital" performing "activities of other membership organisations not elsewhere classified", with Christel and Andrew Lee (PIA's founder) as officers, and Andrew Lee having the majority of voting rights
mircea_popescu: <milky25> "All told, Handshake aims to give $250 worth of its tokens to *each* user of the websites the company has partnerships with – GitHub, the P2P Foundation and *FREENODE*, a chat channel for peer-to-peer projects. As such, developers who have existing accounts on each could receive up to $750 worth of Handshake tokens."
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo "by explosive drones as his was giving"
deedbot: http://www.dianacoman.com/2018/08/04/a-collection-of-pearls-as-well-as-ever-sadder-epitaphs/ << Ossasepia - A Collection of Pearls as Well as Ever Sadder Epitaphs