asciilifeform: ( the other funny detail, it certainly ain't ~everyone~ who'd get payola. certainly not dirty kulaks. ) ☟︎

asciilifeform: the 'let's give EVERYBODY $income' thing goes beyond mere retardation; make the folx who play lotteries, and even pyramids, look brilliant. at least ~somebody~ wins, in a pyramid

asciilifeform: how not

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: iirc it already happens, but you gotta paint yerself black 1st

asciilifeform: and 'end to end encryption' crapolade, and other mandatory pravda

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: complete with a 'basic income' article.

asciilifeform: lol!

asciilifeform: CompanionCube: certainly looks quite like it.

asciilifeform: nobila ca si virtutea, tot atat de necesara ca si justitia'

asciilifeform: http://188.27.236.125/baroul-suceava.ro >> 'Avocatura este tot atat de veche ca si magistratura, tot atat de ☟︎

asciilifeform: http://188.27.236.125/haisa.ro >> 'e to thee, Osiris, Lord of eternity, King of the Gods, whose names are manifold, whose forms are holy, thou being of hidden form in the temples, whose Ka is holy. ...'

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-29#1634135 >> lul, btw >> http://188.27.236.125 ☝︎

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: frightening heathen pit, btw, that site.

asciilifeform: i did, actually, it was a misery

asciilifeform: it ain't like you have to write sshd from scratch.

asciilifeform: as in http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2017-February/000252.html

asciilifeform: y'know -- with hands

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i never understood 'vpn service' -- why not hire a cheapo commercial linux box and route whateverses through it.

asciilifeform: ( http://trilema.com/2017/stop-being-so-fucking-poor/#selection-187.0-195.21 )

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: possibly misbounded quoteblock in latest trilema

asciilifeform: ( incl. per http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-24#1632388 ) ☝︎

asciilifeform: half a billion bonsaikittens.

asciilifeform: i have said this before, but everyday life in usa makes the good doktor mengele's stitch-his-head-to-his-arse look like harmless hobby

asciilifeform: i did not put hand in, no.

asciilifeform: made a quite respectable sound, would not sound out of place in a zoo.

asciilifeform: hound of the baskervilles.

asciilifeform: he was in his own yard, even, 3 metre iron fence on all sides

asciilifeform: not long ago i walked to post office along different, for no good reason, path, to mail a FG, and saw the largest and most impressive dog i ever saw

asciilifeform: what does somebody have to smoke, to think of it.

asciilifeform: decimal mb, wtf, srsly.

asciilifeform: which is not necessarily as fixable as 'fix the constant'

asciilifeform: but overall folx oughta remember mircea_popescu's observation from c3, that any attempt to reimplement ye olde grandfather's pistol from scratch, will almost certainly have at least one lethal 'accepts something the old -- would not' defect.

asciilifeform: the other constants, i looked up, but this one, naively memorized as 'megabyte'...

asciilifeform idly wonders how many folx who implemented 'btc protocol' also used 'the wrong megabyte'

asciilifeform: see also mircea_popescu's 'magic numbers' article.

asciilifeform: indeed it is a decimal (hdd maker's) 'megabyte'.

asciilifeform: ahha he got it.

asciilifeform: eagle eye, adlai , http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/main.h?v=makefiles#0030

asciilifeform: !!up adlai

asciilifeform: but this comes -- later.

asciilifeform: aaaand eventually the thing can get a correctness proof.

asciilifeform: this does 0 , because bounds checking, and we in fact learn where.

asciilifeform: then afterwards by fuzzing, e.g. crafting shitoshivarints that want to overrun arrays

asciilifeform: (identical.)

asciilifeform: tested, btw, by taking a multitude of blocks (from eatblock), parsing'em in, then back out, and diff.

asciilifeform: ( several routines used but not included, this is not meant to be runnable genesis, but to show flavour )

asciilifeform: etc.

asciilifeform: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/i8cY6/?raw=true << handling btc transactions to/from traditional/sane formats

asciilifeform: some example snips : http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/mJAHZ/?raw=true << handling of shitoshi's var-ints

asciilifeform: (i.e. demonstrably nonoverflowable, nonhangable.)

asciilifeform: and with well-defined behaviour, in ALL cases.

asciilifeform: (or at the very least, in ~predictably~ nonconstant time)

asciilifeform: e.g. that it is possible to operate on a thing of bitcoin's complexity, in constant space AND time

asciilifeform: it is less useful per se, than as a demonstration of principle.

asciilifeform: but it remains, to demonstrate experimentally. ☟︎

asciilifeform: currently i suspect that a complete btctron can fit in 10k-line of ada.

asciilifeform: perhaps ben_vulpes -- will do it.

asciilifeform: but no, i have not done this.

asciilifeform: to revisit upstack : yes, it is possible to implement ecdsa in constant space. after all, the sigs are of constant size, and the payload is maxed at 10,000Bt.

asciilifeform: implements good chunk of shitoshi's liquishit.

asciilifeform: sadly.

asciilifeform: ^ does not 'just look for sig opcode'

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: and nope. http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/script.cpp?v=makefiles

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: 'fleet in being'

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: actually implementing script verification is a serious work, quite likely to take entire year.

asciilifeform: because gotta ~store~ them.

asciilifeform: it'd be a btctron.

asciilifeform: if it could verify sigs!

asciilifeform: nooo

asciilifeform: it's an exploration of 'how to store tx?'

asciilifeform: not yet!

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: can't verify sigs. or generate'em.

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: no crypto

asciilifeform: it isn't a btctron. only demonstration of db algo

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: means 'not quite'. there is no script processing.

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: the 'nq' in 'nqb'

asciilifeform: south -- used'em, incl. the dictators

asciilifeform: north -- shot the japanese collaborationists

asciilifeform: this point actually figured quite prominently in the north vs south kr wars

asciilifeform: philosophically, the d00d who lights the match, and the one who stands and watches, are 'same' ; in practice -- different, in that if you shoot the latter, very soon your kingdom is empty

asciilifeform: well there's 2 types, one is this, the other is when you let nsa filter the spam (google's)

asciilifeform: lol, pretty barbaric spam filter

asciilifeform: though in this capacity he may well be spent, and his useful life -- behind

asciilifeform: instead, d00d is (and only one currently living, afaik) actual cryptographer in... cryptography

asciilifeform: or for that matter could be one of those 999/1000 academics who churn out shannonized crapola.

asciilifeform: or a poettering

asciilifeform: could be, e.g., nsa stooge

asciilifeform: worse job.

asciilifeform: it is possible to have a worse one.

asciilifeform: y'know, sorta how winblowz internals is asciilifeform's

asciilifeform: re ' "Research" tasks adequate to that fuckdolls "level" ', the sad thing is that herding pigs is his ~day job~

asciilifeform: put on trilema, then he's doomed to see...

asciilifeform: not the lispm folx, not bernstein, whoever.

asciilifeform: then again apparently nobody ever answers when asciilifeform writes

asciilifeform: fwiw i wrote to him after i deployed phuctor-cum-bernsteintron. 0 answer.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: https://cr.yp.to/contact.html

asciilifeform: i have nothing with which to explain it. or, e.g., taleb.

asciilifeform: https://cr.yp.to/export.html

asciilifeform: or how about bernstein vs. unitedstates.

asciilifeform: https://cr.yp.to/djb.html << subj.