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asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-24#1817947 << does this translate into the losse of 80% of the coin ? or do i misread ☝︎
asciilifeform: i mean for receiving. in re the 'some emitters are counters in pivapollo and lack dough' ☟︎
mircea_popescu: the more gfs you have, the less you care about girls on the rag.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-24 13:27 mircea_popescu: western union expects you to know a magic number ("mtcn", 10 digits) the sender is issued upon sending, and present id. the sender only needs your name and city where you pick up payment. western union will ask you a bunch of inane questions (where you live, who the sender is, how do you know them, what's the money for, etcetera) for which they require no documentation.
mircea_popescu: hey, now you know what i mean by intel / how reports look / stuffs and things.
asciilifeform: ty for the experimental work, mircea_popescu !
mircea_popescu: currencies other than eur and usd were out of scope for this amusement, though i doubt there's much meaningful existence in the "currencies other than eur and usd" category.
mircea_popescu: i would say it is an absolute requirement for pizarro to maintain a localbitcoins account and sink in the required time to build itself a network of known-good users, as these in fact appear to exist, and may constitute humanity candidates / come in useful laterally.
mircea_popescu: in the end, administrative overhead (finding localbitcoinists, talking to them, talking to western union, updating the site objects according to reality in the field etcetera) comes around 2 hours / successful payment. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: the vast majority of localbitcoin lusers will require ~major~ amounts of decerebrated handholding (indulging them may improve the 1 to 2 in 10 figure quoted above), in the form of incessant messenger-style confirmations and encouragements, "yes really, let's really, we're really doing this" etc etc, easily 20 dribblets / head. the damage wrought on the preteen brain of the contemporary 20something by "smart"phones and "apps"
mircea_popescu: ted enough to issue a fake "mtcn" (number-password western union expects you to know), try to get you to release payment, and then pretend like they "cancelled" for whatever imaginary reasons when you come to complain western union didn't have it -- a splendid way to waste an hour or so in city traffic.
mircea_popescu: you can further expect a strong showing of scammers. these will be variations of "here's something, release payment". in about half the cases these are advanced enough to output some kind of official-looking falsified screenshot / whatever bizarro standards of visual certification of truth they use in their world (no, douchebag didn't come up with the screencapping on his own, it's a thing in his age-peer group, the "proof").
mircea_popescu: you can expect actual payments in your hand in 1 to 2 cases out of ten tries (defining a "try" as having initiated a tx on localbitcoins -- which btw jumps randomly for unclear reasons), worth about 90% of the lulsite price. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: (i ran 0.1 tests, so about 700 bucks. how a 10`000 sq foot of floor space electronics-and-white-goods specialist can not have made 700 bucks worth of sales by mid day is anyone's fucking guess. here is mine : nobody but me has any money.)
mircea_popescu: the first time you use a piece of id for id they'll also want a photocopy of it, and plenty of "wu locations" are in fact a counter in a pivapollo place somewhere, without a copier (they see no problem with this). about one in ten "wu locations" have not the cash on hand to make payment, and they see no problem with this, either.
mircea_popescu: western union expects you to know a magic number ("mtcn", 10 digits) the sender is issued upon sending, and present id. the sender only needs your name and city where you pick up payment. western union will ask you a bunch of inane questions (where you live, who the sender is, how do you know them, what's the money for, etcetera) for which they require no documentation. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-23 17:26 mircea_popescu: but anyway, im off to manage some efforts to research the world for pizarro's benefit inter alia, so bbs.
mircea_popescu: in re http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-23#1817537 / http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-23#1817792 : there are a few dozen accounts advertising western union payments on localbitcoins. the majority of these are neets in orclands trying to live off shaving website-enacted realities (as an alternative to living off freelancer.com / uber.com / etcetera -- it's evidently a lifestyle, the french fries / grocery bagging of 2018). ☝︎☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-23 07:15 ben_vulpes: lobbes, BingoBoingo (and mod6 and asciilifeform, mircea_popescu if he's inclined) here's a draft of the copy for the shared hosting landing page: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/PcA2p/?raw=true
ave1: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-23#1817627, I think the text is too technical. This is my try: http://ave1.org/planding.html. ☝︎☟︎
esthlos: okay, the keychain in root should be fixed now
esthlos: i've notices that the behaivor of sbcl and ccl for make-pathname is slightly different
trinque: changed the temp keychain dir to /tmp and hey! successful press!
trinque: esthlos: just built it, looks like it's trying to create temp keychains in root
esthlos: I'm not free again until Friday evening, so I won't be able to respond or do anything until then
esthlos: to be clear: prevents use as an executable with ccl. sbcl seems to work fine
esthlos: trinque phf et al: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/OYaGd/?raw=true << further steps on the vtron. currently it is freaking out when used with my ccl 1.11.5 . the make-temp-dir function phf provided throws an error on the first invocation, which prevents use as an executable, but oddly the function works if I return to the top level and then call it again.
mircea_popescu: there's coffee in the thermos ; and the jar is pickled chillies.
mod6: i love this pic: a jar of pickled peppers? high heels, an empty plastic bag, and a map. Everything one needs!
mod6: evenin TMSR~
a111: Logged on 2018-05-23 07:15 ben_vulpes: lobbes, BingoBoingo (and mod6 and asciilifeform, mircea_popescu if he's inclined) here's a draft of the copy for the shared hosting landing page: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/PcA2p/?raw=true
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-23#1817627 << that thing is terrible ; not even worth fixing. complete re-do. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-24 00:29 phf: hat time it was concluded that the effort of mac upkeep is not there, and i believe that's also when mp/diana decided to go with a custom protocol for a future non-crystal space implementation
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-24#1817911 << note that the protocol; is re comms ; what client uses is entirely at client writer's leisure. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-23#1817898 << guess. meanwhile some other coinbase prints a "bitcoin domination" % (spoiler : it's very low, bitcoin dun matter bla bla bla), and then WHENEVER bitcoin moves the ENTIRE list of "blockchains" and "cryptocurrencies" movesd in sync. anyone with half a fucking clue would observe that if the movement is 100% coupled then yes tyvm, bitcoin domination = 100%. but then again, democratic ☝︎
phf: crystal space has some complicated, xml based module system, and planeshift, i believe, approached that module system not necessarily from first principles either. i couldn't really devote enough time (and i spent couple of weeks on the whole thing the first time as it is) to figuring out how the whole thing is supposed to come together. it's definitely possible to run it on mac, but the effort literally costs more than buying a dedicated linux box
phf: hat time it was concluded that the effort of mac upkeep is not there, and i believe that's also when mp/diana decided to go with a custom protocol for a future non-crystal space implementation ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-23 21:57 douchebag: There appears to be an issue w/ homebrew and Eulora.
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-23#1817823 << the taps you're using are for previous release of eulora (which already had some odd issues on mac, but worked). i took a stab at updating them when the latest release came out, and enough targets moved that it was again non-trivial to build the stack. i've managed to hand build it/jerry rig homebrew to build it, but the result out of the box was working even worse (mostly i lost textures entirely). around t ☝︎
ben_vulpes: nevertheless, "once upon a time we made cars in flint, and the water was unsafe to drink in mexico. these days, they make the cars in mexico and flint's water is poison."
ben_vulpes: you won't notice lead in the water until your kids are born all fucked up either.
ben_vulpes: i'm not prodding you about "issues" you mighta "noticed" but to think about who's involved in your decryption and signing flow.
asciilifeform: who the fuck needs the 'whole hdd'; why not just the key log.
ben_vulpes: they would never back your whole hdd, precious linux vms and gnupg keychains and all to icloud, no never.
ben_vulpes: is "can get root privs" all you need to feel comfortable using gpg on the thing?
douchebag: ben_vulpes: I've never had any issues doing what I need to do, I can get root privs so I never really noticed any issues.
ben_vulpes: douchebag: the incessant whining to "upgrade!", the lockout of gdb shy of signing executables for execution, none of this screams "not your computer! get your hands out of the machine!" to you?
ben_vulpes: reports are that even exwm works with it
ben_vulpes: purged it manually, after throwing the "no seriously i am a grownup" switch?
ben_vulpes: it doesn't tile, what fucking great.
douchebag: I've been running MacOS for about two years, prior I used Linux for 6 years. I love my Macbook, I find that I can multitask a lot better, the window manager is great
ben_vulpes: or or, have you tried deleting "iPhoto"?
ben_vulpes: douchebag: the pushing of multigigabyte files to "your" computer doesn't make you pucker at running gpg on the thing?
LordMPofTMSR: well, i think most people hate them because they're inept and unwieldy, not specifically "compromised" whatever that even is.
douchebag: LordMPofTMSR: I know, I just haven't seen evidence proving MacOS is comprimised other than the fact that it's a large company
a111: Logged on 2018-05-23 22:17 douchebag: Well, although many people will disagree with this statement. I'm a pretty boring person, and I'm not too concerned about if the NSA is watching me - if the NSA wants to watch me they will do it regardless.
LordMPofTMSR: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-23#1817840 << this is not so different from saying "i have plenty of blood, and if the lice wants to get it they'll get it regardless." hygiene is not directly a consideration of denying the alimentary cycle of parasytes ; it's rather a question of self-respect, and in the 2nd line a question of socialization, because no matter how cool you might be "otherwise", at least some chicks won't fuck you with lice no matter ☝︎
Mocky: my log reading suggests that asciilifeform has a massive workbench with projects in progress: e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2016-02-09#1401016 ☝︎
LordMPofTMSR: a that may be it then
asciilifeform: it eats disk, and they started selling a series of boxes with ludicrously small ssd, in 2010s, and decided that it can vanish
LordMPofTMSR: asciilifeform, in nomine diaboli avocando, maybe x finally became too large a pile of hair, exceeded their capacity to translate hair to wet noodles.
asciilifeform: ('hey, all the other commercial unix vendors croaked, we can do the bait an' switch nao')
a111: Logged on 2016-02-09 18:09 mircea_popescu: then turn into your wolf form and cheat some more.
LordMPofTMSR: download the carplanesubmarine app for not going anywhere!
asciilifeform: at one time , 2001-2014(?) it was ~usable as a xterm -- until they stopped shipping x !
LordMPofTMSR: all the solved problems!
LordMPofTMSR: imperial boons : a wife is a female that agrees with you for as long as you're not saying anything and a mac is a computer that works for as long as you're not trying to run anything.
asciilifeform: ( commandline items like ffa generally work; anything with video/audio -- prepare to suffer )
LordMPofTMSR: the vm on the mac thing was pretty great.
asciilifeform: LordMPofTMSR: getting any nontrivial proggy to build on crapple, is a herculean labour , and typically not imho worth it
a111: Logged on 2018-05-23 21:57 douchebag: There appears to be an issue w/ homebrew and Eulora.
LordMPofTMSR: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-23#1817823 << the only person who either managed or almost-managed (or, i guess, were going to manage) running eulora on mac was phf, maybe two years ago. i dunno it ever went anywhere ; nor am i all that sure macs are computers. ☝︎
asciilifeform: found it by accident when asked q of 'when's the last time they caught a sw pirate' ( answ: apparently not since 1st bush term )
LordMPofTMSR: asciilifeform, yeah, hanging out with the neet crowd.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-23 21:33 asciilifeform: meanwhile, in entomology dept, https://archive.li/Uj74z << the reich claims ownership of all satellites
LordMPofTMSR: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-23#1817820 << pretty lulzy ; but then again if you ask them... ☝︎
ben_vulpes: the debian rng bug is a good example of hosed RNGs, that's a fine place to start
ben_vulpes: i'm obliquely suggesting that you have nfi how your keys were put together because the layers of abstraction are too thick.
douchebag: Nope, not really. Can you tell me about that or provide some resources?
ben_vulpes: ever wonder about how the deterministic number generator on that vm was configulated?
douchebag: I'm not really imagining it does anything, I just happened to make my keypair in the VM because that's what I was using at the time I created thm
ben_vulpes: gnupg does, so for the third time why are you using a vm, what do you imagine it gets you
douchebag: Even though most Linux applications work just fine with MacOS, a lot of them don't.
ben_vulpes: so why bother with the vm
douchebag: Well, although many people will disagree with this statement. I'm a pretty boring person, and I'm not too concerned about if the NSA is watching me - if the NSA wants to watch me they will do it regardless. ☟︎
ben_vulpes: i do not think this does what you think it does
ben_vulpes: douchebag: a vm on the macbook?
ben_vulpes: douchebag: have you tried installing gentoo on your macbook?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: it's a rubby trojan horse masquerading as a package manager that posts ~/.gnupg to www.google-analytics.com
ben_vulpes: brew edit $formula might help, but i ditched the mac nigh for reasons of pervasive upgradism like this a year ago, haven't looked back, can't suggest that you spend much time doing battle with republican softs on the crapple.
ben_vulpes: on a less glib line, homebrew changed the calling syntax on the tap. you should read the error message for the correction instruction.
ben_vulpes: could be all the way down in the ruby
ben_vulpes: possibly the homebrew part
ben_vulpes: douchebag: yeah it's the mac part
douchebag: There appears to be an issue w/ homebrew and Eulora. ☟︎☟︎
danielpbarron: in the is-deedbot-working dept, http://danielpbarron.com/2018/no-country-for-old-men/
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in entomology dept, https://archive.li/Uj74z << the reich claims ownership of all satellites ☟︎
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-23#1817710 << yes, i seem to make these kind of homonym errors a lot actually, and i reread the sentence every time, but don't see it until the issue is pointed out. ☝︎☟︎
BingoBoingo: But no one talks about the Aeron Thrombolyticus Maximus chairs being installed that day
a111: Logged on 2015-11-18 14:54 asciilifeform: shinohai: 'i heard that ivan won a car in the lotto.' 'yes! but not ivan but piotr, not a car but an overcoat, not in lotto but at cards, and not won but lost'