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asciilifeform: at least now i have 15 of 16 shiva hands free again.
mircea_popescu: quite. i wouldn't bother with it. "making a life" so that everyone can have one neglects the obvious point that if one fucking wanted one, he'd have made it long ago. ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if all it is, is a tarball of crud, i can pry out the pgp keyz myself ☟︎
mircea_popescu: anyway, wiped. i guess once tbot's here ima put the silkroad dump thing in there, maybe it's still around by the time someone figures out the world enough.
asciilifeform: not everybody wants to play in same box, i suppose.
asciilifeform: i have nfi.
mircea_popescu: as time goes on i guess we'll be seeing a lot more of this low level maggotry.
ben_vulpes: i don't know much about computers, less about tiny things, but this is the segment of memory that holds the thing's os, yes?
asciilifeform: the only cure for these folks, i suspect. is to SPIN LIKE PROPELLERS on mircea_popescu's raging cock.
asciilifeform: the pathetic part is that my 'mycloud' appears to have nuked its own nand somehow (not, fortunately, the uboot, but the idiot fedora thing. apparently it was mounting itself read-write - on a motherfucking eeprom! - and didn't like being reset a dozen times when i fiddled with the probes)
asciilifeform: i had nfi it even existed on arm.
asciilifeform: i have a shell.
BingoBoingo: "I'll have you know it's a load bearing sock"
mircea_popescu: the secret i'm sharing is that there's no monogamous relationship with reality : looking at any of them nude doesn't end your relationship. with any of them.
asciilifeform: also i dun have a porthole into Actual Reality (tm) here, only the other one.
mircea_popescu: i bet you whatever you want just as we sit here there's some dude flying some desk somewhere (that used to be mahogany, and used to have plants around! ahh cold war!) to whom we seem the very perennial rats
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anyway ; i dun specifically mean to piss on your lone-flying-fortress parade. but you gotta appreciate it's a stylistical preference for interpreting reality, rather than actual reality.
mircea_popescu: when i was growing up all sorta amateur dieteticians of the 3rd age were all liek "oh, eat that, it's good for you, has phosophorus"
BingoBoingo: I mean you can skip phosphorous if you dun care that your plants develop non-retard roots.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i thought phosphorus is good!
asciilifeform: i dun see the relevance of where i put rubbish pastebins to anything.
mircea_popescu: i just gave you a list of concrete.
asciilifeform: can haz concrete ? where do i get NEW workstation.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i stand by my hypothesis. the pogos etc. are NOT workstations.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-01 23:59 asciilifeform: did mircea_popescu predict that other nas gadgets will be found and i - that they won't ? or sumthinglikethat?
shinohai: Do keep us apprised I may consider working one into lab budget at that price.
asciilifeform: at least once i finally pop a shell on it.
asciilifeform: did mircea_popescu predict that other nas gadgets will be found and i - that they won't ? or sumthinglikethat? ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-06-01 22:34 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-01#1474921 << did i miss the part where those 20 lines were all prefixed with turns out mp's ideas about the evolution of the world were right ; and mine wrong ; and i really should chillax on the paranoia score ?
a111: Logged on 2016-06-01 20:31 asciilifeform: http://www.frostyplace.com/index.php?story_id=11202 << i may have found a replacement for pogo.
ben_vulpes: pm physically recoils, "jesus i didn't even think about that"
ben_vulpes: "because i do not have time before our delivery deadline to figure out the millisecond offset between utc and n number of other timezones, depending on how thoroughly we want to test this."
ben_vulpes: said something along the lines of "and i have completely punted on the issue of testing whether or not events happen in the right timezone for the user. the testing strategy is to set the user tz to utc, the system tz to utc, and make assertions about when events fire."
ben_vulpes: i was discussing implementation minutae of a timing project with my pm today
Framedragger: oh, yes, i did.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-01 20:53 asciilifeform: (i am about to snap one, as soon as camera charges)
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-01#1474921 << did i miss the part where those 20 lines were all prefixed with turns out mp's ideas about the evolution of the world were right ; and mine wrong ; and i really should chillax on the paranoia score ? ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: mod6: the test unit i showed you cost me fiddybux exactly.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> (recall, block index is RETARDEDLY kept resident in ram, being first leak) << yeah, getting these into `t' for the trb project will be a big main priority once i get tbot deployed.
mod6: next to the ethernet port chassis, the black thing looked like a jumper. the only jumper i see is next to C149
mod6: i see that its not
mod6: oh nm. thought they were jumpers until i zoomed in
asciilifeform: i have nfi for wat
mod6: i see that.
asciilifeform: and i dun feel like regreasing the cpu
asciilifeform: i also did not bother to examine the underside of mp, all of the connector pads appear to be on top
asciilifeform: (i am about to snap one, as soon as camera charges) ☟︎
mod6: asciilifeform: awesome find, i'll take a closer look at it tonight for sure.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: i would seriiosli consider http://www.2x4.ru/index.php?pid=71
asciilifeform: i have one here.
asciilifeform: http://www.frostyplace.com/index.php?story_id=11202 << i may have found a replacement for pogo. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i recall the fellow not digesting my pointing out to him that his calls, opinions ideas etc on some topic he had nothing to do weren't interesting ; dunno what exactly the adherence was. maybe this, yeah.
mircea_popescu: yeah, it wasn't bad really. i guess in the end didn't gather enough momentum and we agreed to end it ; but not without regret
asciilifeform: i even have one. big whoop.
phf: asciilifeform: yeah, it's in backlog, i need to make a case-insensitive version of KMP
mircea_popescu: i dunno the whole thing. the observation however stands that just as there's a way to verify a number ISNT irrational, by the same way in the same manner for the same reason the reverse can also be verified. and there are indeed very hard (as it is the case here, harder than np-complete) problems to do with such numbers, arbitrarily chosen.
asciilifeform: just like how i can't go to my shop and machine a platonic solid.
asciilifeform: i had to grep own l0gz
mircea_popescu: we went through a bunch of examples in one sitting, but i'm not finding it nao
mircea_popescu: nono, we were discussing hard problems and i pointed out the russian guy with the addition
asciilifeform: i recall there was thread where mircea_popescu suggested the use of nonstandard bases to frustrate enemy per 'specificity of diddling' principle.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so here's what i'm thinking : obviously the equivocation between "NP hard" in the sense of "it is not proven this set is empty of NP hard edges" and NP hard in the sense of "this set CONSISTS of NP-hard elements" is bad for crypto.
a111: Logged on 2014-06-11 00:49 asciilifeform: 'At some point during this period, however, I realized that the entire problem was a complete and utter pseudo-problem. ... So I am very confident that neither of these techniques, neither mine nor Sacco and Vanzetti's, has ever been used in practice. There is no need for them, there has never been any need for them, and there will never be any need for them. And this was quite obvious in 1993.'
a111: Logged on 2014-06-11 00:49 asciilifeform: 'My Navrozov moment, of course, was when I approached one of the two - Sacco, I think - and attempted to have an intellectual discussion of this realization. The story is basically the same as Navrozov's, so it would be boring to repeat, but basically I came away with the feeling that I'd told someone his Sicilian grandmother liked to get drunk and fuck her own goats.'
a111: Logged on 2014-06-11 00:49 asciilifeform: 'Which, in fact, I had. Because I'd essentially told him his research was fraudulent. The fact that my research was also fraudulent, and that neither of ours was particularly noteworthy in that regard, did not matter. And why should it? Others' crimes cannot excuse your own.'
a111: Logged on 2014-06-11 00:48 asciilifeform: 'Sacco and Vanzetti came up with an entirely different solution to the slow-MMU problem, one which if I do say so myself was less imaginative than mine, but both more general and more practical. They published theirs in a real conference, received much acclaim for it, and I believe patented it, started a so-called company and eventually sold it to Microsoft.'
asciilifeform: btw when i went down into the snakepit with several dozen renowned 'cryptographers' earlier this year, i asked a few folks about this. ☟︎
asciilifeform: 'aes is hard to break' 'says who' 'says me, i haven't broken it yet' ☟︎
Framedragger: jesus wtf am i doing
Framedragger: (thanks for bearing with me, and i'm off home). i leave you with http://smbc-comics.com/index.php?id=4092
mircea_popescu: "She does stink and she should quit. But I don't want it to be because of me. It should be the traditional route; years of rejections and failures till she's spit out the bottom of the porn industry." ☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-01#1474486 << i'm the worst killer in history ;/ ☝︎
Framedragger: hm. *this* (i.e.: that "no polynomial-time algorithm exists for factoring the product of two random n-bit primes with some good probability") *is* less safe as compared to the safer assumption that "no polynomial-time algorithm exists for always factoring all products of two random n-bit primes". this is a much safer assumption cf. to the one you interpreted it to mean, no? (no baiting this time - just honestly confused). but eh, may
Framedragger: i don't think 'c)' obtains? no mix-up there. otherwise, sure, blergh re. a) and b)
asciilifeform: i.e. problems np-complete in the general case, but very much p in ~every known instance.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger chiefly, that it isn't. i posit that nothing good or useful can come of some kid at rutger's self importantly answering questions on a website because some 17 yo kid who thinks himself too cool for his ohio highschool asked a dumb question with the usual smattering of wikipedia his teachers usually A him for.
Framedragger: (i sounded more literary in my mind)
asciilifeform: i have been to where they juice the cobras.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-01 14:24 Framedragger: not to rain on the parade (not that i could), but isn't it possible such a thing won't ever be found? http://stackoverflow.com/a/3654889
a111: Logged on 2016-06-01 14:24 Framedragger: not to rain on the parade (not that i could), but isn't it possible such a thing won't ever be found? http://stackoverflow.com/a/3654889
a111: Logged on 2016-06-01 14:09 asciilifeform: (and i will add that no public implementation wrote it correctly, either.)
mircea_popescu: than fought, yelps" is yet again obvious, and for the hundredeth or so time will pass unheeded, i guess.
asciilifeform: ^ but i've always wanted this!11111
shinohai: The best was the `no 'Web of Trust' needed` comment. He refused to read the relevant trilema article that I sent him obviously.
shinohai: Final count was like 13 messages and 5 PM's just because I pointed out tmsr did it first. Props to deedbot
a111: Logged on 2016-05-31 23:33 shinohai: Judging from the flurry of messages I'm getting I think I triggered someone.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform oh that's how you meant. i just reload a current page, yeah.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-31 19:50 Framedragger: aha, then i guess you don't really enjoy the fact that gpg uses aes for session key actually? :)
mircea_popescu: anyway, how's reload not work ? i been using it unknowingly ;/
a111: Logged on 2016-05-31 19:36 asciilifeform: for instance, i used to be able to read the log by hitting 'reload'
mircea_popescu: i have nfi what the fuck they do to them in school anymore.
asciilifeform: hey it's how my brother and i split candy bars as children.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform would you believe that i quit, never to return, an assembly of esteemable finance heads when in congress they didn't agree, nor couldn't understand, why exactly "to split any item to two parties : one cuts, the other picks" is not only equitable, but the only equitable method so much so any other method is derived from it, and equitable only in as much as it's similar.
mircea_popescu: well so sure, but then the market isn't "a magical solution from god for all the crazy dangerous shit i don't want to have to deal with".
asciilifeform: i just find it hard to see young chix as legitimately-i-have-nothing-at-all poor.
asciilifeform: giant pineapple, i expect!1111
mircea_popescu: i already shudder at the thought of what my statue'll look like when i'm asleep.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: research lab where one has to explain the criteria of divisibility with 2... <<< aaaaaaaaand guess where i worked !
mircea_popescu: i can't be arsed to look at some medium photos.
asciilifeform: this was iirc one of the points of disagreement in thread, i saw photo, she was plenty interesting