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spyked: trinque, that wasn't implied in the discussion.
spyked: mircea_popescu, i haven't thought about that yet. but needless to say, the bot depends on many pieces that are not v-ified (and for that matter also does ircbot).
trinque: an RSS shitting IRC bot is not bigger than the mind can take wtf
a111: Logged on 2018-05-25 12:53 spyked: as far as I can see, this first writing pass exposes incorrect assumptions about e.g. data structures and how they're used. if this keeps happening, then it might be that the problem is larger than the mind can chew on in one take.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-25#1818705 << either that or, usually the case, the mind has bad habits it shall have to discard. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: (neither of these options is good. if the former, why the fuck doing the polarbeard stupid, what, not read the logs ? if the latter, umm...)
a111: Logged on 2018-05-25 12:31 spyked: but I knew how the rss bot design should look (I wrote up a draft before starting the implementation), the problem was rather fitting it up with all the "imported" elements.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-25#1818697 << is this a set of patches on existing bot or a whole new genesis for some reason ? ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: trying to maintain this supposed difference between what you do and who you are is exactly how the office drones manage to use a whole life doing exactly nothing whatsoever. all their juice went to the gap.
mircea_popescu: no. write good code from the get go. there's no room here for "oh, this is the code i wrote, but it's not really who i am". it fucking is who you are, irrespective of what the monkey may be saying in your ear. THAT is what you are.
mircea_popescu: i expect 80% of the cases of "oh, i am being asked too much, this republic sucks" come from exactly this inept "oh, i won't do a good job, and wait for time to resolve it". yes, time will resolve it, but odds are the solution will hurt the butt.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-25 12:25 ave1: Or just live with it until the stress becomes big enough that you'll have to do something.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-25#1818694 << this is very stupid. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: ave1, i'm not advanced enough to make much of a teacher ; but commercial speech is a discipline unto itself. i suppose one approach is to keep track of what seduces you and why ; and others. eventually you end up with some kind of mental image.
trinque: if Mocky were here I'd ask him if he sees the problem yet ☟︎
trinque: so teaching fractions is right out too, eh?
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-05-25 04:26 Mocky: like that naacp 'leader' who identified as black
a111: Logged on 2014-11-06 20:34 asciilifeform: thestringpuller: in practice - i am what i am.
asciilifeform: trinque: d00d seems to suffer from some bizarre compulsion, to leave the 'am what i am' clue
asciilifeform: ftr asciilifeform bit through the camwhores nonsense after shot #3 or so
lobbesbot: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: !Q later tell douchebag if you think the faux-camwhores approach will work to make a 'backup' identity for self, this time with new flavouring -- 1) it won't 2) drop it 3) this is good road to -10
trinque: KernelKhaos: last chance to introduce yourself properly
KernelKhaos: lol, podcasts, but no blog, and I avoid publishing most things.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-18#1815304 << last time around ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-25 17:19 KernelKhaos: hmmm. I am not what I am. Probably nobody, till I'm properly keyed.
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-25#1818824 << what's this, the tagline for your line of self-help podcasts? ☝︎
trinque: how bout you drop the coy 14yr old girl routine and answer the man's question
KernelKhaos: hmmm. I am not what I am. Probably nobody, till I'm properly keyed. ☟︎
ave1: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-25#1818722, I'm in the last rounds (building gnat-musl using gnat-musl on aarch64). The last part is the slowest (I have one core for it). Also, for some reason the download sites are becoming unstable, I had to change one and it just failed on another. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-08 20:51 BingoBoingo: And to top it all off, as much as my walking speed has slowed today, THEY STILL WON'T STOP STOPPING
a111: Logged on 2018-05-25 05:12 Mocky: right so what's the problem
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-25#1818596 << meanwhile i figured out what you meant. here's the problem : http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-08#1811449 / http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/05/04/collected-gripes/ ($2 -- speaking of which hey bb, selectotron when?) or more in the general http://trilema.com/2009/omul-inutil-sau-pledoarie-pentru-protectie-sociala/ ☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: also know that 'traditional' sw station is a ~very~ expensive pleasure; makes server rack look cheap
BingoBoingo: having grandchildren to derp about on shortwave takes time.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: id'd be the local , orc gestapo you'd be pissing on, tho << A lot of terraforming and corrupting can happen in 20 years
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: id'd be the local , orc gestapo you'd be pissing on, tho
a111: Logged on 2018-05-23 18:46 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-23#1817710 << yes, i seem to make these kind of homonym errors a lot actually, and i reread the sentence every time, but don't see it until the issue is pointed out.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-23#1817818 << they're not homonyms, fwiw, unless you'd read stalin the same way as stolin. but otherwise, pouch is like stalin and poach is like stolin. ☝︎
BingoBoingo: 't it be nice dream to loudly piss over the USG.FCC from down south
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: back to your hypothetical : humour me, say, to whom wouldja broadcast voice? and for what ?
BingoBoingo: My case for the high power station at some point in the future is that Aconcagua is 6962 meters tall and there are plenty of other high peaks in the Andes. There's the seperate gossipd goal of building a robust relay network, and then there's the "wouldn
asciilifeform: ideally whole thing would be a FG-sized board that can be potted in epoxy, with pv cells on either side, and hung from a tree in the middle of forest. maybe next decade.
asciilifeform: to properly round out the thread, keep in mind that gossip station would need ~receiver~ as well as transmitter (and obviously a comp)
asciilifeform: https://archive.li/lCGOn << example of typical 'field' sw antennae.
asciilifeform: keep in mind ftr also that these need substantial antenna ( can be simple wire, but needs to be at least 10 metres in length, and taught )
asciilifeform: https://archive.li/yBBhM << strictly for thread-completeness, this is a typical 10W sw amp. size is approx same as 2 FUCKGOATS laid wide end to end.
BingoBoingo: Sure. gossipd isn't the only use case. Can't expect the moo cows to report to the reddit bags because they have been issued messages over a gossipd they aren't equipped to use. It's a use case that demands voice and/or video.
asciilifeform: asciilifeform's historic interest in the subj is strictly in re gossipd.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: if you're interested in ~voice~ , as if the year were 1952, look elsewhere, the subj is beaten to death in the literature.
asciilifeform: do i need to go on, or does this make sense.
asciilifeform: 1) https://archive.li/nLxLX << this is a chinese 100W sw piratetron. it eats ~150W of mains current, and is the size of a brick, and needs forced air etc. costs about 100 $ , just by itself ( i.e. without whatever gossiptron logic and signal synth you'd have. )
asciilifeform: i'ma illustrate with picture, the difference in equipment. :
BingoBoingo: Well, depends on how the terraforming goes. In the struggle between righteous corrupting forces vs. Moo Cow idiocy it is possible that someone has a commercial 250kw-1mw transmitter delivering the good tidings of TMSR from somewhere in LATAM or Africa.
asciilifeform: i'ma make a long thread , shorter, and summarize, it makes considerably moar sense to have smaller, cheaper, unattended 1-10W checks-rsa-and-relays boxen, then massive 'pirate' mast.
asciilifeform: to get answer that makes sense in light of prev thread, set 'tx mode' to ft8 ( a commonplace tone modem ), pick two geographies, and notice that even 1W on a quiet illicit band, already gets you 1000km under the right circumstance.
asciilifeform: ^ output changes with time of day and season.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i am considering here the tmsr use cases, rather than the old farts chatting about grandchildren use case (the latter already is quite well-documented, folx who are interested in it can simply rtfm)
BingoBoingo: But it is 10x as much megawatt strategy accomplishing contra the 100 watt station
asciilifeform: understand that 1000w transmitter is only ~2x as 'loud' as 100w.
BingoBoingo: Well, why does anyone do amateur radio? Same reason they post on reddit. They want a hot young wife, and a dog and grandchildren who love them, but they settle for DX'ing and postcards.
asciilifeform: if it's gossipd transport layer, massively loud sw station is the Wrong Thing ( unless you're mircea_popescu , and have the cannon battery around the mast, and can be arsed )
asciilifeform: you gotta start with asking, what you want out of the thing.
BingoBoingo: Well, the cover content sure, but what about the steganographed stuff.
asciilifeform: i suppose i oughta detail in the logs, in concrete example, for fyootoor ref.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 'legal' shortwave is ~useless , iirc we had the thread.
BingoBoingo: Well, as of last year Uruguay has amateur license classes that allow pumping up to 1500 screaming watts on certain parts of the spectrum
asciilifeform: ^ without some rough idea of what you're looking for, these won't do much good
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: http://www.websdr.org << can try the argentinas, if you feel like, to get a feel.
BingoBoingo: * were they
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Were talking about privatizing the water?
phf: trinque: i like that idea, i'll see if it's easy to implement though. it doesn't map quite cleanly to current search architecture though, which is single pass and stateless ☟︎
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: funnily enuff i was listening to web-sdr boxen in UY not long ago. there's several public ones.
asciilifeform: at any rate it doesn't hurt to put asciilifeform's lulzcollection re subj in the log.
phf: asciilifeform: i'm establishing scope, rather then actually doing anything. firefox on my x60 has an uper limit on tabs i have open, because it runs out of memory, so i started thinking that this ain't no way to live :> ☟︎
asciilifeform: phf: werentcha in the middle of a vtron or do i misremember tho
asciilifeform: phf: if it helps in your archaeology, google's 'seekrit' name for the machine is 'veyron'
BingoBoingo: In other archeo-coprology The Uruguayo Amateur Radio Association on the web today: https://archive.is/5lTz1 versus February 2013: https://archive.is/klTvj
trinque: yeah possibly, just throwing it out there
asciilifeform: trinque: i've wanted this for a long time; might be cpu-expensive tho.
trinque: idea being "rockchip blobless scope:15" would bring you to anywhere those terms are within 15 lines of each other ☟︎
trinque: phf: an idea for logs, it might be easier to find threads if the scope of a search could be more than one line, perhaps as a parameter like "from:".
asciilifeform: (even tho src is public)
asciilifeform: but turned out to be moar sweat than expected
asciilifeform: phf: i also considered looking for the key check thing in the stock bios and simply NOPing it out
phf: aight, thank you
phf: so an intermediate step that someone else could perform is to take your rockchip gentoo, generate new rsa pair, sign the kernel with pub, patch google's uboot with priv and get a clean booting rockchip gentoo setup, without accidentally bricking the device? (while still retaining known amount of google in the system) ☟︎
asciilifeform: also interestingly, they published the src for their uboot, it is theoretically possible to scrub the crapola out and rebuild. however i have not succeeded in building it.
asciilifeform: and interestingly they published the src for the auxiliary microcontroller (drives kbd, battery, leds, etc) unlike any other lappy maker, and it actually builds
asciilifeform: trinque: appears to.
trinque: while repeating things, this guy boots without closed firmware blobs?
asciilifeform: i'd like to properly degooglize the box.
phf: i'm just repeating things for own understanding
asciilifeform: right, i thought i already said.
phf: and i guess you're trying to replace google's uboot with a built-from-src one, that doesn't also have rsa checks etc. ☟︎
asciilifeform: i'd like a normal, built-from-src rockchip uboot for this thing. and i worked over the pcb with magnifying glass and found a buncha debug contacts, some of which almost certainly gotta be spi rom. but -- currently no time to chase this.
asciilifeform: loader. however google's uboot is annoying , it ~mandatorily~ looks for googlersa-signed kernel. replacing certs with own is pretty easy, but you still end up having to keep google's toolchain around in order to sign kernels, and ugh
phf: ah i see, yeah i figured it's a drop in replacement, but the uboot bit complicates the matter. uboot i take it is a boot loader, or the kernel also goes in there?
asciilifeform: i booted a heathen linux on the thing from the sd card, via the heathen ('press ctrl-d in 10 sec on boot or i format yer disk') nonsense, it ran.
asciilifeform: phf: my current understanding is that it will be able to boot the ~userland~ from my rockchip gentoo ( http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2295 ) as-is; will need a proper kernel tho