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mircea_popescu: in any case i find the web 2.0 ish approach intellectually repugnant ; if i'm to explain why one "feels his arms pulled" when spinning under the moon, perhaps i'll be next held to explain why the same one doesn't "feel" the normal pressure in his bladder, or the heliocentric nature of the solar system in his horse's clavicle. let einstein, ziggler, marx, godin and friends answer this nonsense ; anil dash stands ready to angri
mircea_popescu: anyway, celestial reference is practically useful, and the question "but why should it be" seems ill posed.
mircea_popescu: i dunno ; grav theory is particularily opaque.
esthlos: hey mircea_popescu, you used to study physics, right? any opinion on mach's principle?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, it's really owned by the indian govt.
lobbes: the "error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type" sounds like we have the same issue. Either way, I've no solution yet myself. I figure if I can get mp-wp going with php 7.2 I guess I'll be satisfied for now
lobbes: did your php 5.6 barfs look like mine too? >> http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/KNEJ4/?raw=true ☟︎
lobbes: diana_coman: I've been on a quest for the last few days trying to get a LAMP running on my rockchip. I was getting barfs on emerging php-5.6 but managed to at least get php 7.2.4 installed
BingoBoingo: I like how the Botswana Bank's international outreach is to India
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/05/26/some-fg-samples-and-test-results/ << Bingo Blog - Some FG Samples And Test Results
diana_coman: has anyone installed php successfully on a rockchip? it fails to build on mine with a lot of "error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type" and a search for this sort of thing seems to suggest it might have to do with libxml version; anyone ran into this and sorted it out already?
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/the-v-questionarium-answerarium-2018-edition/ << Trilema - The V questionarium & answerarium, 2018 edition
mircea_popescu: i'll be very keen to hear someone explain the difference between usg and kpss.
mircea_popescu: ruks and therefore won't get them into political trouble.
mircea_popescu: "I cofounded Activate, the strategy consultancy that guides the leaders of the biggest media, technology and entertainment companies in developing their strategies for growth" << consider the politruk-icity. so, "the biggest" have absolutely nothing to say. they are so inept at creating their own fucking strategies, they'll just hire the political commissar to give them a sheet of paper that's certified by the office of polit
mircea_popescu: But just a word to journalists aghast at the idea of naming a source who wanted to be off the record: telling the truth and exposing the President’s lies is actually more important than j-school decorum. You’re being played."
mircea_popescu: He was the director of Expert Labs, a "Government 2.0 initiative that aims to connect United States government projects with citizens who want to become more involved in the political discussion"
mircea_popescu: the things imbecile journahos "become" in the empire! TECHNOLOGISTS!!
mircea_popescu: "Anil Dash (/ɑːˈniːl ˈdæʃ/; born September 5, 1975) is an American blogger, entrepreneur, and technologist. Previously an independent technology consultant and new media developer for the Village Voice"
mircea_popescu: are we specifiing a gns standard for these ?
a111: Logged on 2018-05-25 22:47 trinque: I suspect logbot is terribly named. it's more aptly an IRC-pg bridge.
mircea_popescu: re the voicing approach : the above is fine. the alternative, where you keep a dedicated key on the bot, is also fine. the damage it can do is very limited (what, spend money it doesn't have ? rate people ?) and the upside is that you get to find out about possible attacks. neither method is wrong or anything. ☟︎
spyked: I'll leave this open for discussion for a coupla days or so. meanwhile any comments from other lisp bot operators ( ben_vulpes, lobbes, phf et al.) are muchly appreciated.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-20 14:17 trinque: spyked: one could make many voicing OTPs, and put them in a hopper for the bot.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-25 22:46 spyked: mircea_popescu, no, not yet. it's next on the todo list.
spyked: also, re. http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-25#1819054 my intention is to implement the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-20#1815920 approach, where: a. user obtains OTPs manually by prodding deedbot with !!ups, decrypts them and feeds them to trilemabot; b. trilemabot maintains a list of OTPs and uses the next one in the list when it needs to self-voice (i.e. after it /joins #trilema). c. user must ensure that the OTP list is not empty, ☝︎☝︎
spyked: in the logs.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-25 21:16 mircea_popescu: nevermind that part for now. do you have a value for $x in "hey $x".
a111: Logged on 2018-05-25 21:11 mircea_popescu: well, did you protest that anywhere ? preferably as "hey $x, im trying to use ircbot to make rssbot, but you've not got voice going ?!"
spyked: to clear up the confusion in http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-25#1818920 (and maybe for some bonus lulz): somehow last night my eyes completely overlooked the last part in http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-25#1818894 (yes, after reading *twice*), leading to a very wtf contextless spyked upon ingesting http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-25#1818901 . /me still has much practice to do to follow discussions in real-time, most of my reading happens ☝︎☝︎☝︎
mircea_popescu: just preserve the principle, "rsa signed kernels"
douchebag: When you fuck with gang members, you get gang treatment. Kind of ironic that she has a tattoo that says loyalty haha
douchebag: So yeah, she's going to get fucked up. I'll post pictures of the aftermath if I see her at all in the next 24 hrs
douchebag: well, she robbed some dude for $280 of crack and now these black dudes are telling her she has to get into a fist fight with their cousin, and they will forget about the debt. Their cousin is a black dude a few years older than me.
douchebag: In other news, that retired prostitiute Lola who now pimps out other younger women
asciilifeform: it also forces the use of their oddball partition scheme
a111: Logged on 2018-05-25 22:44 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-25#1818735 << is is settled that rsa checks are waste of time / undesirable ? having a sane process doing kernel check may not be terrible, neh ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-25#1819048 << in abstract it's great; but in the concrete case it requires GB of google liquishit tooling to be kept around so as to sign kernels ( unless somebody wants to rewrite and follow the gnarly format.. ) ☝︎
mircea_popescu: then when i say imperial "school" is out and out kiddie fucking they act like they've no idea wtf.
mircea_popescu: “Schools will inevitably be doing their best to make young children feel as relaxed as the can be.'
a111: Logged on 2018-05-25 17:31 trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2014-11-06#912903 << omg, asciilifeform running disinfo!!11!1
mod6: pipp8: Make sure to register a key and get yourself into the wot via deedbot. Here's the help page: http://deedbot.org/help.html
mircea_popescu: part of the problem is i don't even know if i can receive and can't be arsed to debug something i don't really use anyway. but yes, will clear it nao.
spyked: mircea_popescu, yeah, the example was only intended to give preview, re "what've you been doing all this time". btw, can unsubscribe using !F unsubscribe <link>. otherwise it'll send you messages after I figure out what's borken.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-25 15:59 phf: trinque: i like that idea, i'll see if it's easy to implement though. it doesn't map quite cleanly to current search architecture though, which is single pass and stateless
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-25#1818764 << may end up having to import Framedragger_ s' multi-line thing as a means to return. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-25 15:58 phf: asciilifeform: i'm establishing scope, rather then actually doing anything. firefox on my x60 has an uper limit on tabs i have open, because it runs out of memory, so i started thinking that this ain't no way to live :>
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-25#1818760 << bear in mind that my girls get in trouble for having over a dozen tabs open. maybe the solution is on the other end! ☝︎
spyked: yeah, it produced an error! gotta debug it. there's no sane rss parser out there.
mircea_popescu: also i'm not exactly instrumented here to handle testing of pming bots, rss or otherwise. so mebbe someone else may be more useful ?
mircea_popescu: generally the bias is towards heavy users, not noobs.
mircea_popescu: the value of "i forgot what this is" gotta balance with the value of "this is impossible to fucking type".
spyked: I'm gonna change that with the one from the bot list when I bring it in the chan
mircea_popescu: i would not object to !!paying whatever pittance my needs may drive me to, and if it's not a pittance i'll either change the needs or be thankful for the useful service.
mircea_popescu: and if it ~is~ resource intensive, implement it anyway, publish a way for user to evaluate cost, and charge them like lobbes ' auctionbot. monthly or w/e.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-25 15:51 trinque: idea being "rockchip blobless scope:15" would bring you to anywhere those terms are within 15 lines of each other
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-25#1818753 << this is actually a fine spec ; unterschrif't ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-25 15:47 phf: so an intermediate step that someone else could perform is to take your rockchip gentoo, generate new rsa pair, sign the kernel with pub, patch google's uboot with priv and get a clean booting rockchip gentoo setup, without accidentally bricking the device? (while still retaining known amount of google in the system)
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-25#1818746 << now this is an example of sane approach. *thumbsup* ☝︎
mircea_popescu: trinque, regrind is the time to rename, huh.
trinque: I suspect logbot is terribly named. it's more aptly an IRC-pg bridge. ☟︎
spyked: trinque, okay, then I'ma do that first. and then get back to you for command prefixes.
mircea_popescu: i'll spare you the "wtf have you been doing thus far". this time.
spyked: mircea_popescu, no, not yet. it's next on the todo list. ☟︎
trinque: the code I have is to provide the voicing service, which isn't useful for your purposes, but will certainly be released at some point
mircea_popescu: spyked, do you have a voicer thing ?
trinque: to reiterate, I do not have code to self-voice. deedbot is providing voice to everyone else.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-25 15:44 phf: and i guess you're trying to replace google's uboot with a built-from-src one, that doesn't also have rsa checks etc.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-25#1818735 << is is settled that rsa checks are waste of time / undesirable ? having a sane process doing kernel check may not be terrible, neh ? ☝︎☟︎
spyked: trinque, re. voice and other trilema-bot functionality, I'd like to take a look at the code you have if you're willing to share.
mircea_popescu: ie, as a general rule, always start with the more general parts.
mircea_popescu: you can of course interleave, it's not the end of the world.
spyked: mircea_popescu, okay. the rss bot needs self-voicing, command prefixes et al., so it's eventually going to come further down in the tree, on top of them.
mircea_popescu: pipp8, read the logs.
pipp8: thanks, Hi all, I'm a little noob about bitcoin, so I'm sorry, But from your website thebitcoin.fundation I can read you still use bitcoin 0.54(or 0.53 official with bug solved) why you have choose this version? what succesive implementations wasn't in line with your thinking?? you don't want?
mircea_popescu: and conceivably both logbot and rssbot want voice module, because logbot will want to read references to its logsite.
mircea_popescu: small, easy to read, one at a time.
mircea_popescu: do me a favour and don't wait on the voice part so as to dump it together with the rss part, either.
trinque: and I'm going to graft logbot's v-tree onto ircbot
trinque: spyked: so sounds like you're going to patch your items (in as many small, easy to read patches as possible) atop ircbot?
a111: Logged on 2018-05-25 13:29 phf: back in the canonical log days, i'd patch the name in the logs, but since we're past that i think it can be left as is, unless there are objections as far as log authenticity.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-25#1818719 << we'll live with the lulz. ☝︎
trinque: sure, but whether the same patch hunk ended up in two places is computable, interesting in a patch-viewer sense, not in a vtron-operation sense
mircea_popescu: trinque, i dunno that they're to be tracked, it'd be 100% elbow grease of the porter and his beard.
mircea_popescu: this'd take some doing, conceivably, but the someone in question may find the answer to "import or rewrite" favourable on the import side.
trinque: will be interesting what comes of tracking those lineages
mircea_popescu: for instance : bitcoinfs may be found useful by someone storing flac muzak. they'd then copy it from its original tmsr-os / trb tree, and put it in their gp-os / torrent tree.
mircea_popescu: or can have special purpose osen in other ways, and end up with lone trees.
spyked was thinking, will "the (one and only) v tree" end up eating everything?
mircea_popescu: whenever the weight of signatures warrants the effort.
trinque: there's a cultural thing here that just came into view. the work will be regrinding until there's fewer and fewer disjunct trees.
mircea_popescu: that's even why eucrypt doesn't want to be outside of the tree of its dependencies, after all.
mircea_popescu: indeed that'd be so, and how joyous a circumstance.
trinque: I suppose I should've said instead "had there been a gnat v-tree, eucrypt would never find itself in a position where gnat had moved, and nobody can find the gnat to build eucrypt"
mircea_popescu: spyked, v presses that as it is now, why not. plenty of examples extant.
spyked: mircea_popescu, then if they're separate branches and if I want to make purely hypothetical spykedbot that does both? would end up with patch with two antecedents, should v press that? should I regrind?
mircea_popescu: trinque, not the end of the world, the "author1 thionks author2 is an idiot" can be very mild indeed, "i didn't like the patchlength, collapsed some and regenesised"
mircea_popescu: (the realisation that v-tree management is a lot like playing tetris should probably hit just about now)
trinque: I think this is absolutely correct, and I'm in error not putting logbot in ircbot's tree.
mircea_popescu: spyked, why is trilemabot on top of logbot instead of on the side of logbot ?