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mircea_popescu: there is such
a thing as "why is e < 3??" "no reason" in nature, and from there in engineering. there isn't really such
a thing in society, and from there in culture.
mircea_popescu: the basic, and really only, rule of hermeneutics is : that then you've understood
a text when, far from its shortcomings appearing inexplicable errors, they become the actual pillars upon which the damned thing is constructed, and what originally seemed to you sensible and structural takes its true place as accidental.
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: (mehmed, like most other sultans, was
a bit of an atheist)
mircea_popescu: with
a little training they'll be more of
a tool of state than the dubious religion
mircea_popescu: you should read the poetry of the time, they were pretty drunk on
a sort of adolescent male idealism perhaps best rendered as sportsfan-hiphop in today's terms.
mircea_popescu: unrelatedly, since i apparently fell in
a barrel of reading old history, fellow describing "the cruelty" of mehmed 2 : "for some books stolen from his secretary he punished an entire village to be moved to asia ; for
a stolen watermelon he took the life of
a suspected janissary, and he did not back down from killing with his own hand the most adored being in the harem, who had shackled him with her exceptional beauty to the p
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: "In addition, for those interested in keeping their tokens from the losing blockchain as
a keepsake, we will support
a one-time withdrawal of the deprecated tokens, provided that the losing chain is still functional when you attempt
a withdrawal. Specific instructions on how to access your tokens on the old chain to follow."
mircea_popescu: not that it's much of
a concern, there's exactly ONE customer doing eth on poloniex. but as
a theoretical thing.
mircea_popescu: laziness is
a natural want, and unavoidable. (no, wanting your children to survive is not natural, but perverse, and
a major part of what makes kant's timber crooked.)
mircea_popescu: something that may appear as
a subcase but i believe is not (not that the dispute is all that relevant) and in any case is more numerous is the jwz : the fellow that "just wants to" keep right on being lazy.
mircea_popescu: this is always and everywhere personal failure, sometimes
a forced mistake (like the female's universal "wanting kids to survive", which is stupid but nevertheless part of her ample array of genital curses)
mircea_popescu:
a few of them, recently called the "hopefuls" but otherwise simply the incarnation of evil, are capable of handling the statement of their assumptions, but are unwilling to separate themselves from what "they want", which is usually stupid but that's not something they're prepared to face.
mircea_popescu: so the way deculturation works is, derp comes to tmsr, makes statements, which belie assumptions, which are explicitly stated BY someone in tmsr for the first time in derp's experience, and then rejected explicitly. sometimes
a cause is presented, but this is not particularly "better" than none being offered. the burden is on the derp ANYWAY.
thestringpuller: Also they are nailing the doors shut on Ether tomorrow until "clear winner": "As
a Poloniex customer, you do not need to do anything. The migration will occur automatically, and your full balance of Ethereum will be transferred to the winning chain. Keep in mind that as we near the fork, we will be temporarily disabling deposits and withdrawals in preparation for the migration process. Trading will continue to operate as normal during
☟︎ thestringpuller: "I've noticed
a trend with these guys. They're too dumb to even know they are clowns. Well I guess they're focused on the present and not the future. Money counts for these guys. He's nothing but
a banker selling btc." and has reply >> "Dunning–Kruger effect" It's odd reading comments like that on reddit.
mod6: <+shinohai> It's like
a colossal shit that won't flush. << haha
a111: Logged on 2016-07-18 17:39 asciilifeform: (
a mod with 2 or more ips gets
a colour; plot each ip on the traditional 2d grid, and connect with line of that colour.)
mircea_popescu: (ie, it relied on you having
a mental map of structure which it wouldn't render, or not render well. without it, it was unusable, which is why the illiterate couldn't use it well, didn't like to use it at all, and the "free form" html prevailed)
mircea_popescu: it was fundamentally flawed, among other things, by
a structure externality.
mircea_popescu: anyway ; it's not
a case of "omg gopher was so great". to get an idea, think "navigate web through excel spreadsheet"
trinque: Framedragger: sounds like you're headed for
a cool billion in vc
mircea_popescu: chet self-diagnosed her rare eyesight condition over gopher at
a time medical science was done off paper
a111: Logged on 2014-11-15 15:55 pete_dushenski: "the crews that maintain the nation’s 450 intercontinental ballistic missiles had only
a single wrench that could attach the nuclear warheads. “They started FedExing the one tool” to three bases spread across the country"
a111: Logged on 2016-07-18 18:18 asciilifeform: i'll admit that i've wondered for
a while, what the ft meade version of phuctor looks like.
a111: Logged on 2014-11-15 15:55 pete_dushenski: "the crews that maintain the nation’s 450 intercontinental ballistic missiles had only
a single wrench that could attach the nuclear warheads. “They started FedExing the one tool” to three bases spread across the country"
shinohai: It's like
a colossal shit that won't flush.
mircea_popescu: the one thing
a true blue american really abhors is any form of responsibility.
shinohai: "TheDAO and HF have already led to
a lot of learning, bug fixes, additional research and development of contracts and platform, consensus building, and user education. So the Ethereum platform is already more valuable than before."
trinque: poor ben_vulpes is gonna be in for
a triggering when he catches up on logs
trinque: every $framework poorly duplicates information and functionality already in
a proper db
trinque: you write
a view and plug it into one of
a few data shitters
trinque: the right way to build this is to have
a table which points to
a view name, an output type, some field mappings from the outputs of the view to the parameters of the output type
Framedragger: trinque: saves lots of time, for one, and quite
a bit of redundancy. don't need to manually implement api endpoints etc
mircea_popescu: so then your ram can do 200 iops and
a quad ssd raid can do about 300k. ie, 10^3 moar :D
mircea_popescu: Framedragger for the sake of argument : ddr3 does say 2k cycles and latency is about 10 ; proper ssd does what, 100k iops on
a 4k block ?
Framedragger: re sane web, there were semi-decent attempts which have made use of. for example, declare db model in python file, make $framework produce
a working api over that model, incl implementing all the
http methods corresponding to operations (GET, POST, PUT, DELETE)
mircea_popescu: anyway, if you make
a proper profiling sometime we can go through it and see. but, you're right wrt squeezing the software first if it can be squeezed.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in principle i could get
a bank of 4 ssd's in
a raid which should make it faster-than-ram
Framedragger: but i, too, am interested in taking
a stab at
a sane implementation, fwiw!
a111: Logged on 2016-07-18 19:37 trinque: the missing tool here sounds like
a generic reporting engine that speaks SQL and farts graphs, CSV
mircea_popescu: going back to history for
a minute here - at first there was the text internet ; and then as bw and hdds grew up and people could have gifs of samatha fox's snatch rather than ascii art of same, they all rushed to... basically, this shitfest of netscape, internet exploder etc.
trinque: relatedly I'm about to drop
a vpatch for cmdbot
mircea_popescu: and
a goat is closer to
a young woman than any old whore - it's tighter down there.
trinque: in either case, the thing can be written such that www is not
a large part of what it is
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform once there exist as many as five proper pages, you can have
a proper browser.
trinque: it can be used as no more sophisticated
a thing than
a cmdline tool that shits text
mircea_popescu:
a tiny example, but indicative of the conceptual difference.
mircea_popescu: which is why trilema, or qntra, have, say,
a FUCKING ARCHIVE PAGE
mircea_popescu: trinque basically, it should be conceptualized not as
a "this is
a sheet i printed this and that on" but more like "what'd you like in your plate here ?"
mircea_popescu: whreas the fucking internet is not made to be
a cable tv substitute omfg. website should mean that the user can do
a bunch of shit, according to what he may need, some of which not necessarily foreseen by author.
mircea_popescu: trinque incidentally, i suspect the entire website model is dumb as presented. currently, under pressure from ustards/business majors/other unwelcome masses,
a website is
a collection of webpages that is very similar to how
a tv show is
a collection of tv frames. MAYBE they'll let the user have
a tivo, but that's at the most.
trinque: yeah I can take
a crack at it. sounds like something that has
a list of SQL views, list of kinds of output. you pair those up, allow filtering on fields (particularly time)
mircea_popescu: if you build alf
a web tool that looks and feels like whatever apple doohickey he fell in love with as
a kid, he'll love you long time.
trinque: the missing tool here sounds like
a generic reporting engine that speaks SQL and farts graphs, CSV
☟︎ mircea_popescu: myeah. but it's modular anyway, so. until such
a time, we just need
a hm. either php or lisp i guess. or maybe hammer the extant python-whatcha call it into shape.
mircea_popescu: anyway. in practice there's also nginx, which i doubt is any better ; and i don't foresee our writing of
a web server right nao.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: for instance, it'd evident we want :
a) csv, for to grep ; b) tmsr-html, which is NOT html, and not just because it does not allow js ; c) tmsr-svg, which i'm going to pretend is svg, because gnarly. somewhere inbetween b and c
a latex fits in as previously discussed in logs.
mircea_popescu: anyway ; the borders are fluid, the "data dissemination" part can just live as
a "this is the official tmsr web package ; install it like so ; it's maintained by these people ; it does these things we want exactly right and no more"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i'm sorry, were you saying "i am
a flaming retard right now, so what i'm proposing is moving gb of crud around for no other purpose than to communicate
a kb of information" ? i interpreted it to mean "what if i actually have 1 gb of information, can i pass that ?"
mircea_popescu: trilema serves many many terrabites each month. what's
a gigabyte.
mircea_popescu: well the alternative is me flying over to washington with
a rubber hose and pounding you into loving www.
mircea_popescu: i guess some work poured into
a semblance of unified dissemination interface is unavoidable, hence the shinohai wp project.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-18 16:23 mircea_popescu: if you want
a csv version, why not make that. if you're making
a html version, should have pages.
mircea_popescu: possibly found something like
a nsa something or the other,
a botnet / spamnet etc.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-20 20:38 mircea_popescu: recall, jurov parsed all of github, produced
a pile of keys and the convertor code
Framedragger: ah it's
a separate thing, right right. sorry i'm rambling without knowing / forgetting internals