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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i'm involved, remember.
mircea_popescu: but yes, eulora style.
mircea_popescu: terrible profile for a paymeny medium.
mircea_popescu: what, you want to sacrifice virgins ?
mircea_popescu: hm ?
mircea_popescu: i have nfi. same way everything is done that we don't know how to do.
mircea_popescu: whether stuck or not remains debatable, but what's certain is that this gal's going straight home from the battered women shelter.
mircea_popescu: i certainly would have.
mircea_popescu: no loss whatever.
mircea_popescu: myeah.
mircea_popescu: this, incidentally, is the sum-total intellectual output of tardstalk "bitcoin theory" thinking for 2011.
mircea_popescu: no, because he at least had talent as a draughtsman.
mircea_popescu: the circle stayed round this time around.
mircea_popescu: pre-defined etc.
mircea_popescu: right, within some sort of system
mircea_popescu: and no, "i was the first to mash 1 into the kbd eighty-nine million times" is not it.
mircea_popescu: there is no sane way to lay claim of ownership to random strings
mircea_popescu: well... "ai" at any rate.
mircea_popescu: otherwise this too much resembles the ai problem of thought();
mircea_popescu: suppose i think of it as random strings.
mircea_popescu: it's not clear what the meaning of "coin" is supposed to be without the owner.
mircea_popescu: no enemy can measure up to the voids.
mircea_popescu: which is why there's a fee.
mircea_popescu: aha.
mircea_popescu: not even the marine chronometer dudes aimed to make it COSTLESS
mircea_popescu: and timekeeping for free doesn't seem to be a tenable proposition.
mircea_popescu: this is a resource oft taken for granted
mircea_popescu: people fail to correctly comprehend the batshit insanity that is an unorderd bag because common reality graciously provides default orderings in all cases
mircea_popescu: an ~unordered~ bag.
mircea_popescu: quite. there's 0 incentive for people to stick to a chain otherwise.
mircea_popescu: yep. i vituperated against the nonsesne in the 2011s, because well, nonsense.
mircea_popescu: that is mathematically equivalent to "no fee".
mircea_popescu: no fees, no problem.
mircea_popescu: how do you imagine tx fee working with "mining is a bug" ?
mircea_popescu: i don't.
mircea_popescu: anyway. laterz.
mircea_popescu: all the weird, pointless random shit on trilema that has nothing to do with anything!
mircea_popescu: the principle of the thing.
mircea_popescu: not a bad piece if i do say so myself. but yes, perhaps that's what it is.
mircea_popescu: but they apparently don't.
mircea_popescu: mindblowingly, still a thing in 2017.
mircea_popescu: coin age baby.
mircea_popescu: not really. i can still send dust.
mircea_popescu: you're starting to grok this.
mircea_popescu: aha!
mircea_popescu: incidentally, a non-amounts coin is by definition unfungible.
mircea_popescu: there is that.
mircea_popescu: and an apple costs a fortune. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: lenin, as well as everyone else, can still be admired exactly as they were
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform without some kind of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-27#1619177 the situation is apperoximately one where naive idiots got their wish, and no bacteria exist. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: just... a sort of zipping
mircea_popescu: it still wouldn't be true pruning.
mircea_popescu: i mean danielpbarron
mircea_popescu: deedbot to 1/3rd or such
mircea_popescu: aha
mircea_popescu: to make it perfectly clear -- the reason blockchain still exists today is not the 2015 miners.
mircea_popescu: however forcing one to keep A PORTION of blockchain is not altogether a bad outcome ; it is better than the current "forces to keep nothing -- and they provably, as historical fact, DID NOT!" and through lubby ensures blockchain is never lost.
mircea_popescu: aha.
mircea_popescu: brin ?
mircea_popescu: "you can't know math PARTIALLY well."
mircea_popescu: anyway, re ^ : romanian mythical-hero math professor (moisil) famously allowed students to pick questions.
mircea_popescu: any
mircea_popescu: yeah.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the exact way to apply luby to it prolly can take more thinking. but hte idea certainly has merit.
mircea_popescu: it;s not entirely certain this is needed, even.
mircea_popescu: that part wasn't included :p
mircea_popescu: !!up john_cocktail
mircea_popescu: it is, cards on the table, more of a buried lie than ~anything else in the "protocol"
mircea_popescu: counterintuitively enough they actually do.
mircea_popescu: stop lying, txn = unit of account.
mircea_popescu: not sure that's necessary ; the true argument against "amounts" is that well... again, the 0.25 problem ; http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-28#1619936 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: the ~same should be extended to amounts.
mircea_popescu: here's the idea : currently, you only know the pubkey for a bitcoin address once it spends ; before it spends you do not know its pubkey.
mircea_popescu: i guess.
mircea_popescu: how did the tx verify ?
mircea_popescu: it suffices to prove that all outputs without an input are proper block rewards.
mircea_popescu: not necessarily in these terms.
mircea_popescu: indeed.
mircea_popescu: (and -- suddenly have an incentive to, too! because if they don]'t.... fed)
mircea_popescu: no, because public can verify all blocks are valid.
mircea_popescu: can only verify blockchain.
mircea_popescu: nope.
mircea_popescu: the chain of beneficiaries can obv verify the balance, but "public" can not.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the idea is you verify balance when spent ; not before.
mircea_popescu: hey.
mircea_popescu: i think i always did.
mircea_popescu: tx verification is good enough.
mircea_popescu: i don't see public balances are useful.
mircea_popescu: just fucks, no fuckers. tananana.
mircea_popescu: just payments. no payers. fuck usg.
mircea_popescu: the important point here is exactly this - that it should no longer be possible to meaningfully talk of "payer".
mircea_popescu: notrly.
mircea_popescu: as long as right amt showed up -- right amt showed up, proceed.
mircea_popescu: so what's the problem ?
mircea_popescu: same way fuckgoats works neh.
mircea_popescu: indeed.
mircea_popescu: even something as simple as -- ammt made it, therefore paid is good enough really.
mircea_popescu: or yes i was about to say that.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, say politically. if you decide to claim tomorrow that there never was such a thing as c3, how do i deal with it ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anyway, as an entirely idle example : the set of numbers with mpfhf defined on it is actually a fine example in this vein. it ISNT an algebraic structure ; but an algorithmic structure.