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mircea_popescu: and today in signs of patriarchy : me and girl dress to go out. i have 172 buttons. she has one.

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: no big loss, for all i know - whole thing is disinfo

thestringpuller: whoa. did I really just make 34% shorting ETH...

asciilifeform: it is how i know anything at all.

asciilifeform: i have the thing scroll.

asciilifeform: but yes, i will outline the algo, when you throw in a key, you get +1 'submissions', regardless of whether said key has moduli, and +M known moduli, where M is the number of rsa moduli in said pgp key.

drizztdourden: mircea_popescu: i want to try eulora, thanks

asciilifeform: in late '90s it was purchased by a news conglomerate (i fuhget which) and turned into a rag

trinque: well now I gotta https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxnN05vOuSM

asciilifeform: normally i just say 'sawmilling'

asciilifeform: i looked for a good translation for ages phf

phf: hmm i wonder what's english equivalent for распил. i think the word is as apropos, but just doesn't exist

mircea_popescu: well, what they understood of it at any rate. i take no responsibility for the shitheads.

asciilifeform: i see nothing about blockchains etc

mircea_popescu: i can't even.

asciilifeform: i'ma consult 'the of'.

asciilifeform: (faded print, i fuhget what it was originally)

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform a nononon, this isn't a count. this is THE NUMBER OF! you know how they say "i got their number" ? like that!

asciilifeform: right after i calculate the number of their pubic lice.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "i gave at the common office, mr exploit, pls don't fuck me."

mircea_popescu: dude, i'll discuss whoever i please. ESPECIALLY some usg tool that meanwhile took posturing lessosn.

mircea_popescu: shinohai i would have thought so.

thestringpuller: Aha. "peace" is the part I didn't understand. "the prequisite" is a treaty, not a war proclamation.

mircea_popescu: o noes, guyse, why is eth dropping ? i thought they fixed it!

thestringpuller: I don't see a good scenario where TRB could deploy a fork i.e. "the prequisite".

a111: Logged on 2016-03-05 15:15 mircea_popescu: i suppose IF the july many-fork time comes and trb has nothing to offer then it might as well close.

thestringpuller: i imagine though best case scenario, power rangers takes mod6's patches and merges it into prb

mircea_popescu: i'm sure this'll lose trump some votes in the 12% black + 4% lgbtdskfhkejrhdfg community, and gain him some in the 78% white and pissed group.

thestringpuller: one day Bieber will run off with your wife, but then again I guess that's the point you were making with shitty American girls.

mircea_popescu: three days later alchie calls doc office in a passion. "doc, wtf do i do, i can't lift alcohol above my mouth." ☟︎

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: fwiw, thorough walk of my nodes' traffic suggested 95%+ prb (until i put in malleus)

mircea_popescu: thestringpuller yea, i'm sure they do, until "real guys" say "bitch, get in there and make sandwiches" at which point "real guys are too hard and redditards are too soft and i'ma spend five hours on the phone with my "friend" ie exactly equivalent part."

a111: Logged on 2016-06-28 14:21 mats: as i understand it, the heterogeneity of clients in the wild naturally prefers the status quo

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-28#1492032 << the problem with this approach is that bribing is for losers. i for instance never bribed anyone, THEY BRIBED ME! because what the fuck is this, i'm going to pay derpy mayor/judge/whatever ? how about he buys his wife from me each year for the love of fuck! ☝︎

asciilifeform: ^ i utterly fail to grasp

thestringpuller: exactly. but unattractive in the way of "get the fuck away from me I wouldn't fuck you if you were the last man on earth"

mircea_popescu: you should see the local herps. "i like staying home and netflix".

mircea_popescu: trinque no, they're saying "i got all the food i could possibly need and this clicker thing. wut ?"

thestringpuller: everytime I hang out wiht my female friends and ask them about guys, its usually how creepy they are.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'm not certain that anyone PRESENTLY has the real option to 'be varied in hardware'

asciilifeform: i.e. plugged in solely to each other via ssh tunnels etc

mircea_popescu: after the shocking revelations earlier this year, that really many things which seemed actually hosted properly (ie, own box etc) and on this basis assumed independent were really THE SAME ONE ITEM, i think even the 50 figure is generous. ☟︎

asciilifeform: for all i know, mine are the only working ones presently

asciilifeform: R2 "yeah, like less than 50." << it bothers me that i actually have NO IDEA how many

mircea_popescu: 96." | L4 : "there's no rsa collisions in the wild" ; R4 : "if you don't count the 300 or so phuctor found" and on and on and on it goes in this vein. at this point i do not expect any "common sense" held truth about any network to be any closer to reality than what miss america thinks on the subject.

mircea_popescu: Framedragger what i'm more and more discovering is that the legends about the internet and the facts about the network (not just the internet, network in general) are very much at odds. consider a few examples : L1 : "many eyes means better code" ; R1 : "many eyes means bikeshed effect" | L2 : "Bitcoin has many nodes" ; R2 "yeah, like less than 50." | L3 : "there's many weak consumer grade boxes out there" ; R3 : "maybe in 19 ☟︎

mircea_popescu: Framedragger i personally doubt it.

Framedragger: i would like to scan the whole /0 0:65535 range some time though, i'm sure there'd be quite a few ssh servers lurking behind strange ports, and quite a lot of them could be old embedded gadgets. just speculation tho

mircea_popescu: i suppose isps filter incoming for the domestic space (not out of any safety concern, just, to not sell a useful service, which is anathema in usian style economy)

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform for the record, i just tried to ssh to a few known home routers. no answer. try it yourself.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'd be curious to see where all the rng-less home routers etc. went

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-28#1492015 << i wonder if this is true, even. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2016-06-28 10:01 Framedragger: asciilifeform: re. keys - interesting. i don't think i was mitm'd, 13 machines and all, not that it's not possible or anything, and the machines were on the same provider, so, lol, of course possible in principle. but specific mitm's which give working unique keys? hm. but, interesting, i don't have an answer here.

mats: as i understand it, the heterogeneity of clients in the wild naturally prefers the status quo ☟︎

mats: anyway, i think its premature to assume we need to influence miners one way or the other

a111: Logged on 2016-06-28 03:47 phf: i have that cockli box by the way. i'm probably going to spin up an instance on it, but if anybody wants to attempt that task, feel free to take over

shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-28#1491796 <<< If this is actual need phf I would have no problem at all maintaining. ☝︎

jurov: lol i was then prolly mitm'd too.. aside from ~10 cases of obvious corruption (openssh won't even read them) i did not find any key with factor in 10000primes.txt

Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-27#1491238 << i too expected gadgets with shitty rng. any source for that 0.1% figure? ☝︎

Framedragger: asciilifeform: maybe i did fuck up in some very unique way. don't know. oh and the ip addresses are in random order, so there's that

Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-28#1491732 << which nickname was that? :) nvm i guess ☝︎

Framedragger: i'm prolly mostly afk / travelling this week but would be interested to discuss.

Framedragger: asciilifeform: re. keys - interesting. i don't think i was mitm'd, 13 machines and all, not that it's not possible or anything, and the machines were on the same provider, so, lol, of course possible in principle. but specific mitm's which give working unique keys? hm. but, interesting, i don't have an answer here. ☟︎

asciilifeform: it was then mirrored by kako and for all i know is still up.

mircea_popescu: i recall this.

asciilifeform: (who wants to read ? we had whole thread, where i FOIA'd everything lenat ever publicly did on taxpayer dollars, and posted here)

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's easier for me, i wrote it all anyway!

asciilifeform: i'll sleep a bit while mircea_popescu sets the trillion parameters

mircea_popescu: the other is, that it should keep context of "this text" ; separately context of "everything i ever saw in this language" and yet separately "everything i ever saw".

phf: i like the idea of using hidden markov models on ocr-ed text

mircea_popescu: ftr, i wouldn't take cyc for anything other than a fine guide of what not to do.

phf: i believe that was described in the "Sussman attains enlightenment"

asciilifeform: granted this is why i even wanted computer

mircea_popescu: i was stuck publishing a pdf in my latest article because fuck me there's no sane ocr ;/

asciilifeform: simply that any improvement i expect to see will not be qualitative.

mircea_popescu: when you have to correct on average 1 error per book, which is where i expect this can be taken, it's just a breeze.

asciilifeform: i can apparently tell that mircea_popescu has never tried it

asciilifeform: but that no one will improve on it to the point where i can throw out the original TB and be ~certain~ of no irrevocable loss.

mircea_popescu: "hm, i wonder how come these guys keep speaking about modems in non-modem context".

mircea_popescu: i do not think so.

mircea_popescu: i had an issue with an ocr that was TOO informed, kept creating single glyph fl and other wonders.

asciilifeform: likewise i have a TB+ of scans here. these can exist as bitmap and naught else.

mircea_popescu: yeah, it's vaguely inhuman, this. the scholar in me is constantly opressed by various shits. 1. "oh we don;t alphabet - pdf" 2. "oh you can't reference text snippet" 3. "oh we forget, what was this ? linkrot ?" and i think there's more

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it was where i started - text. and from that ended up in 'computing is braindamaged beyond repair'

mod6: <+asciilifeform> mod6: that thread wasn't even about living conditions, but about being a hermit << saw that. figured, "hey, i've got a crypt he can live in if he wants..."

mircea_popescu: trinque tbh, i think wikis are a (braindamaged, dysfunctional, uncomprehending) response to the html-is-broken / transclusion issue discussed yest and etc. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: mod6 leave it for now, i'll bitch when

phf: i have that cockli box by the way. i'm probably going to spin up an instance on it, but if anybody wants to attempt that task, feel free to take over ☟︎

trinque: I don't see how it's better than html shat in a folder somewhere

mod6: <+trinque> sometime I could hack another field onto it; I'm not certain I like the thing (or wikis) << I don't love wikis either, but we need a place for quick docs.

mod6: <+trinque> it uses the page title verbatim in the URL << ok i think I can just have shinohai change the page title then, thx!

asciilifeform: i mean 4 walls not shared with anybody.

mod6: you think i live in a teepee?

asciilifeform: mod6: i need 4 walls.

trinque: sometime I could hack another field onto it; I'm not certain I like the thing (or wikis)

mod6: <+asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: i lived in a ~hole for 20 yrs. << you can come live in my basement if you're tired of paying rent. i've even got a garden. :] ☟︎

mod6: trinqueis there a way to update this URL so it doesn't contain spaces? i.e.: http://wiki.deedbot.org/The%20Real%20Bitcoin

mircea_popescu: i know, they constantly try to wander in here also.

asciilifeform: 'It's tempting to wonder if there's some cointelpro-style attack going on. Realistically, we likely do have the attention of governments who are well-funded to attack us. But first, this really doesn't look like a cointelpro op. The complaints come from people both inside and outside the Tor community, and I know some of them. And second, in this case it really doesn't matter. It's no excuse for not taking responsibility for our acti

mircea_popescu: i don't think you fully appreciate just how braindamaged this "laughing gas of the future" actually is.