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mircea_popescu: phf gimme a sec ima package what i run.
asciilifeform: i just downloaded, states quite clearly, that it runs strictly on plan9.
phf: i'm not even sure why i'm participating in this conversation, y'all just ranting over each other :>
mircea_popescu: what is this, "do what i dream" ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, to the topic : the lot of you've got to be insane to opine on the matter without actually trying the set-up i declare to be happy with, which also carries the endless millions of trilemawords, longer than any codeball ever written.
asciilifeform: i want NO DEPS
asciilifeform: what i want is to generate them ONCE, when EDITED.
trinque: I'll want one for bot doings soon anyway
trinque hated on the wiki recently; maybe I'll write a CL html generator sometime soon
asciilifeform: i dun even DO wwwtronics!11111
phf: trinque: i suggested one, ascii couldn't get past first line ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i ftr am very happy with my frozen wp cube
trinque: I tend to use static site generators
mircea_popescu: for names i mean.
asciilifeform: it is probably what i'll end up doing, but it crosses over the worth-doing threshhold to wrong side.
mircea_popescu: you can do it, all i use are like 5-6 tags.
asciilifeform: i dun need multiple concurrent editors or whatever other rubbish.
asciilifeform: i fucking hate wp
asciilifeform: and realized that if i were starting first one today, would prolly have just given up.
asciilifeform: in other adventures, i made the mistake of trying to set up a 2nd bl0g, for rubbish
mircea_popescu: in other words, i don't believe manhood to be much of an innate talent. there'\s good arguments for the position.
mircea_popescu: i'd say high six figures in actual, liquid capital, should be sufficient. that's ~1k btc atm.
asciilifeform: i could say a number but it will be misleading, for same reason as the private jet thread
asciilifeform: incidentally i factored in cost of NOT going to 'food depot' etc. and it is quite high.
asciilifeform: (notice i said 'go sailing' not 'build boat')
asciilifeform: when i go sailing i will be sure to also ask her to pick up some fish so we can learn from them how.
asciilifeform: wtf do i need the local fauna for.
asciilifeform: hey i enjoyed experimental test for a change
mircea_popescu: perhaps it's useful, though i have no idea how it would be.
mircea_popescu: instead, i'm merely exploring the known, as found in this here endless library.
mircea_popescu: well, i'm nor one to ineptly suggest stuff. "Hey, you building house ? look into geodesic dome / $random crap!" because that's what i last read in Nature and i fancy myself a cultivated fellow.
asciilifeform: at any rate, caterpillars are not find cuisine but that's what i'm gonna eat on this here island.
mircea_popescu: "modestly, m'lady, i just want my spunk coming out your nose, s'all."
mircea_popescu: seems to be the dream here - if i carve the right words into immutable functional space, mega meat army pops.
mircea_popescu: o i mean,
mircea_popescu: "You people? Oh, let's see. Yeah. I see. I see, you... you want to learn the secret of our success, is that right? Alright I'll teach you. First of all you start off with a period of several thousand years, during which you have nothing to sustain you but a great bearded legend. Oh my friend you have no land to call your own, to grow food on or to hunt. You have nothing. You're never in one place long enough to have a geograp
asciilifeform: not even certain that i would know how to operate it if it ~were~. etc.
asciilifeform: army of meat robots may as well be cern's particle accelerator as far as i'm concerned.
mircea_popescu: i guesd
mircea_popescu: there's ONE thing the middle eastern guy has that white man can't replicate, and that is, a stable, and here i kid you not, a stable, of dozen+ pliable obedient females WITH offspring. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-07-03 17:31 asciilifeform: i like the idea of slowly building 'dirigible'
asciilifeform: i have 0 use for the latter.
asciilifeform: i like the idea of slowly building 'dirigible' ☟︎
asciilifeform: which is why i contemplated the bmore thing
phf: my time is expensive, but it's non linear. i can't be hacking 24/7, or parsing information, sometimes i need to build things out of wood to let brain reset
asciilifeform: i suppose, the same folks who build ships in bottles
phf: mircea_popescu: my calculations assume that you're not trying to move into up to standards place upfront. mircea_popescu: i'm thinking how much it takes to put it in a survival mode. fridge, stove and window AC, then you spend the next year working over the place on weekends. i had a few friends who did it that way, ended up with high resale value places when the area inevitably gentrified 10 years later
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they are such in the place i live now.
asciilifeform: but i dunno if worth the bother.
mircea_popescu: anyway, "<mircea_popescu> asciilifeform cheapo scheme above, cheaper to replace the ducts." denotes that in the "central air" image i linked, the ducts exist in the attic as free standing tin foil. they're connected to a grate in the roof of rooms.
asciilifeform: the real estate agent, an old woman, send me long list of similar properties i could look at.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform hey, depends. sometime "tear the whole shit down" is cheaper than fix. besides, if i'm going to pour concrete in my kitchen, i'd much rather pour the whole floor plane.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform as i said, "no holy shit expenses"
mircea_popescu: last time i took over a place, ~50 girl-hours went into scrubbing surfaces.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i have slaves.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-03#1495583 << i would like to see your calculation, because actual experience contradicts it something sad. ☝︎
asciilifeform: lel for a second i thought mircea_popescu dug up the photo of asciilifeform's attic posted last year !!
BingoBoingo: A<mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo aha. << Actually I was thinking mini-split. But yes "central air" in US residential use almost always means a split system.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i suspect you detect turpentine.
phf: makes sense, though i suspect particular house was untouched, or touched up anyway. reminded me of some of the golden youth moscow apartments, thick beams of hardwood floor, tiny rooms with high ceilings, certain way the place smells
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-03#1495572 << which reminds me of this girl i knew back in romania, whose grandfather had bought her uncle an entire street as a 18yo present. ☝︎
phf: also i looked at the apartment in philadelphia that had wall window for the street side room, 14'' ceilings, hardwood floor everywhere. was built end of 19th century. and of course the rent goes exponential. instead of $1000 that was sop for the size, it was something like $2500
mircea_popescu: well, i imagine half their patrons are riggers.
asciilifeform: phf: i found it interesting that EVERY ru store in dc area stocks it
mircea_popescu: i also hated eucalyptus
ben_vulpes: i get the ~40 yo ones, only ~1k
a111: Logged on 2016-07-03 16:07 mircea_popescu: bitch, i grew up in a land where the window is an entire wall and it opens out all the way
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-03#1495657 << i have that one, it's available here, but premium feature. the kind of stuff you see on those "rich people in new york apartments" photos ☝︎
asciilifeform: just like the ones near where i live.
asciilifeform: though, interestingly, i did see a freshly-built block of cardboard condos right in the middle of the red zone. empty.
asciilifeform: i dun see it.
asciilifeform: i saw 0 tanks in black bmore.
asciilifeform: i was speaking from the pov of the gosplan folk who designed this crapolade
mircea_popescu: it's a war, after all. i count their "innocent victims" even as they count mine.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, the usg counts "corruption" against me. i don't.
mircea_popescu: "nobody". the usg doesn't. i do.
asciilifeform: i brought a miner's head lamp with me, and scarcely had to use it, except in the cellar.
mircea_popescu: will end up costing 100x more before i even get my sleeves pulled up.
asciilifeform: i was floored.
mircea_popescu: since we're doing externalities, let's do the whole shebang, not like i'm a fucking redskin and the oh-so-clever ustard is going to get to count MY externalities and just mine.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform same for the ones i linked. of course.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, stuff like http://www.ferestrepvc.md/ro/blog/preturi-modele-la-ferestre-si-usi-termopan-pvc-metaloplast-in-rep-moldova-chisinau ?
mircea_popescu: bitch, i grew up in a land where the window is an entire wall and it opens out all the way ☟︎
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, i dunno that i loathe anything us as much as THE MOTHERFUCKING WINDOWS.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that ~is~ called central air, where i live.
gribble: I have not seen Framedragger_.
mircea_popescu: i suppose mormon smith imagined europe needs "a new kind of mormon bible". you know, the one they've had for about 2k years.
mircea_popescu: o wait, i was fixing another one :D
asciilifeform: i'm about to ~hrerf~
phf: i thought goal was zero rent, rather then resale value?
mircea_popescu: did you reload the page or something ? i can click it.
mircea_popescu: in other news, http://trilema.com/2016/why-is-that/#comment-117906 << i just produced a proper definition of slave empire! formal and all!
phf: well, i've added it all up, and it doesn't ever
phf: i suspect it's a dodgy proposition in the death area, because someone will definitely try and steal AC out of your window
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-03#1495502 << continuing re the motorcycles, after reading some moar lafond, i realized why i've never seen them elsewhere: they aren't street-legal in usa - no tags, no lights ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-03#1495543 << insisting on working kitchen, so that i can eat food, and working climate machinery, so my five figs of b00kz dun rot, is 'suburban cookie cutter'? lolk. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: mats no, the unobvious part in all that is, i suppose for lack of vocal underlining, the owner. in the uci model, any individual piece of hardware has one owner, who makes it available through the uci, sets the prices, etc ; and some tenants.
trinque: whether that's me advocating what I want or describing what's been said
trinque: I'm thinking of it like "pay for access to API"
mats: mircea_popescu: I was thinking of this http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-05#1477296 ☝︎